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    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.9.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: woops - just re-read it - forgive the typos( I do know the difference between there and their ;-))..and all the others ! Cheers Jocelyn ( a bit tired after all that research) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 02:03:12
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
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Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I found this marriage - a lot later than you state: Name: Lilly May Hargreaves Spouse Name: Hy Geo Forrest Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1896 Registration number: 7698 there is a photo of Lily on Ancestry.com ...from a Tree- could send it to you if you want to contact me off list 1873 Birth Ballarat, Victoria, Australia 1896 Age: 23 Marriage Victoria 1939 Age: 66 Death Launceston Tasmania Australia Her parents were James HARGRAVES and Catherine HOCKING who was born 1857 in Ballarat George Henry Forrest Birth 1862 in Carlton, , Victoria, Australia Death 12 Aug 1944 in Launceston, , Tasmania, Australia One of their daughters: Name: Alma Evelyn Forrest Father's Name: George Henry Forrest Mother's name: Lilly May Hargreaves Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1897 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 21010 Name: Alma Evelyn Forrest Spouse Name: Harold James Tanner Marriage Place: Tasmania Registration Place: Tasmania Registration Year: 1919 Page Number: 1075 sons: Name: Henry Forrest Mother: Lily May Hargreaves Father: George Henry Forrest Birth: 1900 - Carlton, Victoria Name: Edward James Forrest Father: George Henry Forrest Birth: 1904 - Launceston, Tasmania There may have been a daughter Ruby b 1894-died 1957, married and had children George's parents and sibling details: Name: Austin Henry Forrest Spouse Name: Louisa Jones Record Type: Banns Event Date: 15 Dec 1861 Parish: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register but they married in Hampshire oct 1861: Name: Austin Henry Forrest Marriage: Oct 1861 - Isle of Wight, Hampshire There children: Name: Henry George Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1862 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 22313 Name: Arthur Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1864 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 16667 Name: Louisa Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louise Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1867 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 3399 Name: Emily Alice Forrest - DIED 1869 Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1868 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 10550 Name: Austin John Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1869 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 17061 Name: Alexander Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1871 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 10401 Name: William Francis Forrest Father's Name: Austin Forrest Mother's name: Louisa Jones Birth Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Year: 1872 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 24534 Name: Albt Ernt Forrest Father: Austin Forrest Birth: abt 1879 Death: 1940 - Thornbury, Victoria Name: Austin Forrest- Chair maker Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1903 State: Victoria District: Northern Melbourne Subdistrict: Parkville at 20 Wimble Stree, with Louisa, Arthur, a chair maker and Albert, a grocer Name: Austin Forrest Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1909 State: Victoria District: Melbourne Subdistrict: Parkville as above, minus Albert Alma Evelyn Forrest There is also a photo of George Henry FORREST- his parents: Austin Forrest 1840 - 1910-born Middlesex London Louisa Jones 1841 - 1912 Austin's parents : John Blake Forrest b1802 - 1843- in London Mary Ann Hogg b? - 11 Dec 1912 -in Melbourne OZ the above is a bit confused - hopefully I have sorted it out below children for John Blake FORREST - father to Austin FORREST: Mary Ann Forrest 1824 - ..maybe not - see my research Digory FORREST 1827 - 1864 Adelaide Louisa FORREST 1830 - 1919 Emily Forrest 1832 - 1923 Arthur FORREST 1838 - 1858 Austin Henry FORREST 1841 - 1910 Mary Ann FORREST 1843 - 1908 Here is the family in 1841 census in London: FORREST, John M 38 1803 Jeweller Middlesex FORREST, Mary F 38 1803 FORREST, John M 17 1824 Middlesex FORREST, Digory M 14 1827 Middlesex FORREST, Adelaide F 11 1830 Middlesex FORREST, Emily F 8 1833 Middlesex FORREST, Arthur M 3 1838 Middlesex FORREST, Austin M (8mnths)1841 Middlesex Civil Parish: St Pancras Municipal Borough: Marylebone Address: Pitt Street, St Pancras, Marylebone Living with them were a number of other families I found these parish records: Name: John Blake Forrest-bachelor Spouse Name: Mary Ann Hogg-spinster Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 8 Jun 1823 Parish: Islington St Mary wit: G DEAR, & E HAYES his baptism: Name: John Blake Forrest Born: 04 Oct 1802 Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1806 Parish: St Botolph, Aldersgate County: London Borough: City of London Parent(s): John Forrest, ( b 1770 ) Jane Forrest ( nee WISHARD b 1770) Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register Then in 1851, I found all the siblings together: FOREST,Digby M 24 1827 Shopman Clerkenwell FOREST, Adelaide 20 1831 Straw Bonnet Maker Clerkenwell FORREST, Emily 17 1834 Straw Bonnet Maker St Pancras FORREST, Arthur 12 1839 Errand Boy St Pancras FORREST, Austin 9 1842 Scholar St Pancras FORREST, Mary Ann 6 1845 Scholar St Pancras HOULDSWORTH, Sarah Visitor Widow F 62 1789 No Trade N K Westminster St Anne Soho Address: 424, Oxford Street, Saint Anne Westminster, Westminster this is most likely the death for John Blake FORREST...not 1843 as the Trees state ( a John FORREST did die 1843 but he was aged 20): Deaths Sep 1855 Forrest John Blake Marylebone 1a 216 Just found the baptism - in 1852 Digory Forrest Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Jan 1852 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS CHARTRHOUSE,FINSBURY,LONDON,ENGLAND Birth Date: 07 Sep 1827 Father's Name: John Forrest Mother's Name: Mary Ann Margarett Forrest birth: 21 Jan 1829 christening: 12 Mar 1829 SPA FIELDS LADY HUNTINGDONS,?CLERKENWELL,?LONDON,?ENGLAND Adelaide Louisa Forrest Green( parish record says ' now GREEN..) birth: 29 May 1830 christening: 09 Jan 1852 St. Thomas Charterhouse,? Finsbury,? Middlesex,? England residence: 1830 Finsbury,? Middlesex,? England Emily Forrest birth: 10 Feb 1833 christening: 09 Jan 1852 SAINT THOMAS CHARTRHOUSE,?FINSBURY,?LONDON,?ENGLAND Arthur Forrest -Arthur died aged 20 birth: 16 Apr 1838 christening: 09 Jan 1852 SAINT THOMAS CHARTRHOUSE,?FINSBURY,?LONDON,?ENGLAND Austin Forrest Birth Date: 10 Mar 1841 Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Jan 1852 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT THOMAS CHARTRHOUSE,FINSBURY,LONDON,ENGLAND Mary Ann Forrest birth: 07 Apr 1845 christening: 09 Jan 1852 SAINT THOMAS CHARTRHOUSE,?FINSBURY,?LONDON,?ENGLAND parents: John Forrest,? Mary Ann Parish records state the family was living at 424 Oxford street, and the father was a jeweller...I have not found the parents in 1851 census..strange Adelaide Louise FORREST married John GREEN: Marriages Sep 1851 Green John St Geo Han Sqr 1 13 FORREST Adelaide St Geo Han Sq 1 13 a daughter born 1854 Victoria OZ: Name: Adelaide Louisa Green Father's Name: John Green Mother's name: Adelaide Forrest Birth Place: St Kilda, Victoria also Name: Adelaide Alice Louisa Green Father's Name: Jno Green Mother's name: Adelaide Louisa Forrest Birth Place: St Kilda, Victoria Registration Year: 1859 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 1563 Registration Year: 1854 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 4143 //////////////////////////// Digory married as well: Name: Digory Forrest-occ- Trunk Maker Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Spouse Name: Sophia Williams Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 Dec 1853 Parish: Bloomsbury St George Borough: Camden Father Name: John Forrest-jeweller Spouse Father Name: Thomas Williams- Captain H M S Register Type: Parish Register Wit: John SELF ( a church warden probably) and ?? Fanny WILD?? ///////////////////////////////// Emily married a widower: Name: Emily Forrest Spouse Name: Richard Dyke Widower Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Aug 1854 Parish: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Father Name: John Forrest- Jeweller Spouse Father Name: George Dyke- Joiner Register Type: Parish Register wit- hard to read..? J Anstley and ? C ?Echuborough? Emily was living 7 Southampton Tce, and Richard 14 Bryan Place, Caledonia Rd Name: Unnamed Female Dyke Father's Name: Richd Roe Dyke Mother's name: Emily Forrest Birth Place: Kyneton, Victoria Registration Year: 1859 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 3880 and Name: Walter George Dyke - he died aged 3 Father's Name: Richard Roe Dyke Mother's name: Emily Forrest Birth Place: Wood, Victoria Registration Year: 1864 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 12437 Name: Emily Adelaide Dyke Death Place: Campbellfield, Victoria Age: 83 Father's Name: Richd Roe Dyke Mother's name: Emily Forrest Registration Year: 1942 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 9208 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Name: Alice Jannet Dyke - died 1937 aged 70 in Campbellfield Vic Father's Name: Richard Roe Dyke Mother's name: Emmily Forrest Birth Place: Lyneton, Victoria Registration Year: 1861 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 15633 Name: Richard Roe Dyke-occ- joiner Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Spouse Name: Esther Payne Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 May 1849 Parish: Myddelton Square St Mark Borough: Islington Father Name: George Dyke - occ- Joiner Spouse Father Name: Philip Payne - occ- joiner Register Type: Parish Register Name: Richard Roe Dyke Death Place: Woodend, Victoria Age: 61 Father's Name: Geo Jno Mother's name: Mary Registration Year: 1885 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 14372 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Name: Richard Fredr Roe Dyke Death Place: Malvern, Victoria Age: 84 Father's Name: Richd Roe Dyke Mother's name: Esther Payne Registration Year: 1935 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 6245 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Name: Emily Dyke Death Place: Woodend, Victoria Age: 85 Father's Name: Jno Forrest Mother's name: Mary Ann Hogg Registration Year: 1923 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 13110 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Wednesday 22 March 1876 DYKE-LONG. - On the 16th inst., at St. Mary's Church, Woodend, by the Rev. W. Chalmers, Richard Frederick Roe Dyke, only son of Richard Roe Dyke, to Elizabeth Ellen Long, only daughter of Christopher Long, both of Woodend. the family arrived in Austrailia 1855: Name: Richard Dyke, Emily and son Richard aged 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Age: 29 Arrival Date: Jun 1855 Arrival Port: Port Phillip Bay, Australia Departure Port: London Ship: Lenna Nationality: English ////////////////////////////// Name: Austen Forrest Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Age: 21 Arrival Date: 20 Jun 1862 Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia Departure Port: London Ship: Roxburgh Castle Nationality: English Name: Austin Forrest Death Place: Hotham, Victoria Age: 70 Mother's name: Mary Ann Hogg Registration Year: 1910 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 13103 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 \//////////////////////////////////////////// Name: John Forrest Spouse Name: Jane Wishard Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Mar 1788 Parish: Horselydown St John Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Register wit: Andrew NEWLAND & Susannah MELDRUM this may be some other children, besides john Blake FORREST: Name: Jane Ann Forrest Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1794 Parish: Holy Trinity Minories County: London Borough: City of London Parent(s): John Forrest, Jane Forrest Record Type: Baptism Register Type: Parish Register defintiely: Name: Austin Forrest Parents: John Forrest Jane Forrest Baptism: 23 Nov 1806 - St Botolph, Aldersgate, London, England There is a WISHART family in Horselydown st John in 1851 - mother, Jane, born Scotland...might be related //////////////////////// from a Tree on ancestry.com...all the children for Austin and Louisa: George Henry Forrest 1862 - 1944 Arthur FORREST 1864 - Louisa Forrest 1867 - 1942 Emily Alice FORREST 1868 - 1869 John Austin FORREST 1869 - 1948 Alexander FORREST 1871 - 1929 William Francis FORREST 1872 - 1950 Matilda Mary FORREST 1874 - 1875 Alice Georgina FORREST 1876 - 1878 Albert Ernest FORREST 1879 - 1940 I see there was another Austin FORREST who died as child: Name: Austin Forrest Record Type: Burial Estimated Death Date: abt 1826 Burial Date: 7 Dec 1826 Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Register he had been living Goswell street there also this burial - maybe the father Name: John Blake Forrest Burial Date: 2 Nov 1801 Parish: St Andrew, Holborn County: London Borough: Camden Record Type: Burial Register Type: Parish Register living previously at: ' Blewitts Buildings' there was a Sir Diggory FORREST whose wife died aged 96 in 1853 in Hampshire "On the 24th of December last, in the prime of life, by a fall from his horse, near his seat, Sevilly Farm, in New South Wales, Capt. Austin Forrest, a distinguished Officer in the Hon. India Company's naval service, and brother of Diggory Forrest, Esq. Secretary to Admiral Sir Robert Calder"...I'll let you do the work on this idea - you can google his name - lots comes up! also this: Name: Digory Forrest Dates: 1776-1800 Location: London Occupation: wine merchant food/drink(s) Gender: Male Address: Address(Es): 70, St. Martin's Lane, London Occupation: Occupation(s): wine merchant, food/drink(s) Source Date: 1790 Source Info: Listed in Bailey's London Directory; or, Merchants' & Traders' Useful Companion, for the year 1790 ... 5th Edition, 1790, BAILEY. London /////////////// Looked at the NEWLAND family briefly ( witness to 1788 marriage: Name: Andrew Newland Event Date: 11 Oct 1770 Parish: Horsleydown, St John Spouse's Name: Ann Flemming- a minor Spouse's Parish: Horsleydown, St John Event Type: Marriage bond and allegation Reference Number: DW/MP/069/014 Name: John Newland Parents: Andrew Newland Ann Newland Baptism: 22 Sep 1771 - St John Horselydown,Bermondsey, Surrey, England Name: Ann Newland Parents: Andrew Newland Ann Newland Baptism: 10 Jan 1773 - St John Horselydown,Bermondsey, Surrey, England Name: Jane Newland Baptism Date: 25 May 1779 Parish: St John Horselydown,Bermondsey County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Parent(s): Andrew Newland,-a carpenter Ann Newland Record Type: Christening Register Type: Parish Register Name: Mary Newland Parents: Andrew Newland Ann Newland Baptism: 28 Mar 1787 - St John Horselydown,Bermondsey, Surrey, England Name: Sally Newland Parents: Andrew Newland Ann Newland Baptism: 30 Nov 1788 - St John Horselydown,Bermondsey, Surrey, England Name: Timothy Newland Parents: Andrew Newland Ann Newland Baptism: 17 Mar 1782 - St John Horselydown,Bermondsey, Surrey, England Master's Name: Andrew Newland-carpenter Apprentice Name: Wm Isaac Hayden Residence Location: Southwark Payment Date: 28 May 1771 ///////////////////////////// There was an A FORREST in the Infantry, Regiment 55 in 1861 in Surrey - said born 1838 Pancras....pretty close. There are 4 Louisa JONES on the Isle of White - one born Taunton Somerset...need to get the marriage cert which can be bought online if interested //////////////////////////// I hope I have worked that out OK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:57:23
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see a brth for one of Lily and George's children, Edward James Forrest, at Launceston in 1904, so that is a bit more hopeful for it being the correct James Hargreaves' death. Someone on the Tassie board may be able to give you a bit more info about the 1903 death. Catherine's death certificate, of course, 'may' have all the answers. All the best, Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:57:05
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.8.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Catherine Morgan (nee Hocking) who died in 1918 was buried at Fawkner Cemetery, Melbourne. In the same grave is her husband John Morgan, died 1931 aged 74. Church Of England: Compartment H Grave 403. Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:44:07
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] John and Julia Ryan
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuzanneRyan1701 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10932.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jocelyn I really appreciate all the help you are giving me it is really rewarding to find somebody who is willing to share their time. I have written to Birchip Historical Society but as yet do not have any information back. I will trace the information you have given me on Thomas as see where that leads. Will let you know what comes of it. You can contact me direct on sue@glendalong.com.au Thanks again Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:37:01
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julbev Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have searched and searched for him and another descendant said them moved to Launceston but she knew no more than me. The other information you have sent me is absolutely correct. Thankyou Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:34:38
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No probs, I posted before reading your last message. Cheers, Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:30:48
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can't say for sure re the James Hargreaves in Launceston :( Lillian and George's details at Launceston Cemetery. Given Names: LILLIAN MAY Surname: FORREST Age: 66 Date of Death: 23/11/1939 Date of Service: 25/11/1939 Area: Monumental Cemetery Location: C3 Number: 131.00 Site: Given Names: GEORGE HENRY Surname: FORREST Age: 81 Date of Death: 10/8/1944 Date of Service: 12/8/1944 Area: Cremation Location: C3 Number: 131.00 Site: SCATTERED The Mercury, Hobart, Friday 11 August 1944 (Source: TROVE) "FORREST.-On August 10, 1944, at the General Hospital, Launceston, George Henry, loved husband of the late Lilian May Forrest, of 33 Dry St.. Invermay, and loved father of Ethel (Mrs Willis, Melbourne), George (Melbourne), Ruby (Mrs E. T. Lamb, Launceston), Alma (Dolly, Mrs Tanner, Burnie), Olive (Mrs Guard, Burnie), Henry (Launceston), Tas-man (Melbourne), Arthur (Launceston), and Leonard(Launceston), in his 82nd year." Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:30:15
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julbev Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.8.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes I actually have a copy of Lillian's death notice and George Henry Forrest too. I have put up photos of them both. Thankyou Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:25:48
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.8/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Lillian's death notice Examiner, Launceston, Friday 24 November 1939 (Source: TROVE) "FORREST.-On November 23, 1939, at her residence, 9 Ferrall-street, Invermay, Lillian May, dearly loved wife of George Henry Forrest and loving mother of Ruby (Mrs. Lamb), Alma (Mrs. Tanner, Burnie), Olive (Mrs. R. E. Gard, St. Marys), Henry, Tas, Arthur, and Len. In her 67th year." Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:23:36
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julbev Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thankyou so much for your information - I think you got the right James they did move to Launceston, so that is probably him. Thanks Julie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:22:35
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.7/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to a family tree here at Ancestry, Lillian's surving sibling Mabel Frances Hargreaves married a William Dale in Victoria in 1907, and died at Fitzroy, 1952. Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:19:27
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know in which year Lillian and her husband went to Launceston? There is a death reg. for a James Hargreaves in Launceston, 1903 (??) Name: James Hargreaves Death Date: 1903 Death Place: Tasmania Registration Place: Launceston, Tasmania Registration number: 0313 Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:13:56
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wonder ??? A Catherine Hargreaves married a John Morgan in Victoria, 1904. A Catherine Morgan of the right age, with a father's surname of Hocking, died in 1918. (The family names on a death certificate are only as correct as the knowledge of the informant. I guess Richards and Roberts are similar...) Name: Cath Morgan Death Place: Melbourne, Victoria Age: 61 Father's Name: Hocking Jas Mother's name: Roberts Registration Year: 1918 Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 13705 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 01:04:57
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: And more :) Mother's name spelt variously Cath, Kate, Hocking, Hosking. Myrtle Elsie, born 1890, Fitzroy; died 1900, Melbourne. Kate/Katie, born 1897 Brunswick; died 1897 Brunswick. Emmeline, born 1901, Collingwood; died 1907, Carlton. Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 12:34:44
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again, The birth and death of a sibling, below, at Ballarat. Surname: HARGREAVES Given Names: Ada Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Catherine HOTHAM Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 13888 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: HARGREAVES Given Names: Ada Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Kate HOCKING Age: 6M Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 238 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: And then...(?) Surname: HARGREAVES Given Names: Edward John Thom Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Kate HOCKING Age: Sex: Birth Place: FITZ Death Place: Year: 1883 Reg Number: 23395 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: HARGREAVES Given Names: Mabel Frances Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Kate HOCKING Age: Sex: Birth Place: COLL Death Place: Year: 1887 Reg Number: 2235 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: HARGREAVES Given Names: Edwd Jno Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Jas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Kate HOCKING Age: 2 Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: CWOOD Year: 1886 Reg Number: 1062 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: (Not sure about the 'Hawkins' ?) Surname: HARGREAVS Given Names: George Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Catherine HAWKINS Age: Sex: Birth Place: FITZ Death Place: Year: 1882 Reg Number: 16025 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: HARGREAVS Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Catherine HAWKINS Age: 1D Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: FITZ NTH Year: 1882 Reg Number: 8578 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/10/2012 12:17:10
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: divbooks Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Julie, Their 1872 marriage reg. gives James' birthplace as Yorkshire, and Catherine's as Ballarat. Surname: HARGRAVES Given Names: James Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: HOCKING Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Catherine Age: Sex: M Birth Place: YORKSHIRE Death Place: Year: 1872 Reg Number: 3323 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: A possible birth reg. but she would have been only 15 (?) Surname: HOCKING Given Names: Catherine Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Thomas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane RICHARDS Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALLARAT Death Place: Year: 1857 Reg Number: 1982 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: The marriage certificate will give you their ages and parents' names. A digital copy of the marriage certificate can be purchased and downloaded online. Google 'purchase uncertified image online vic bdm'. (Sorry, not allowed to post the link). Cheers, Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/09/2012 10:53:15
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] Look up please - Wherritt
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimnjoy199 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/9424.3.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bruce, I have quite a bit on Frederick and margaret, if you would like to get in touch. My e-mail is jimnjoy@optusnet.com.au I live in Albury. Regards, Jim. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/09/2012 10:26:15
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] James Hargraves (Hargreaves) & Catherine Hocking
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10933.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Search here gives registration number and you can order certificate direct from BMD for $17.50. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/09/2012 09:30:32
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC] John and Julia Ryan
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10932.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just tried to find the cemetery for Birchip and see the National Library has a book compiled by the ' Birchip Histprical Society ' - it may be worth writing to them for info on your RYAN and SHANAHAN families: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/3562040 you could also try: Birchip Historical Society Inc Information: The Society aims to collect and preserve the history of Birchip and the local district, and assist family researchers in their quest for knowledge of their ancestors who once lived in the area through the use of local resources such as newspapers, photos, school and church histories etc. Founded 1983. Publications: Various books have been published prior to 1983, such as 'Progress of Birchip' 1911 and 'Essays on a Shire' 1970, and since 1983 by the Society and church and school groups and are for sale. Secretary Phone: 03 5399 0564 (Mrs Dorothy Reid, Secretary) Phone: 03 5492 2691 (Miss Elaine McCallum, Archivist) Address: PO Box 35 Birchip VIC 3483 here are snips I found in the old papers ( note - there was a RYAN family with Martin RYAN as the early settler): The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Friday 29 May 1903 p 5 Article ... VICTORIA. MELBOURNE, May 28. James Ryan died to-day at Birchip from injuries received owing to a heavily-loaded bullock-waggon passing over his body on Wednesday. 02 May, 1893; DONALD, Monday Thomas Ryan, a selector in the mallee, near Birchip was riding home a few nights since when his horse fell in a lonely part of the mallee, breaking the rider's thigh. Ryan lay for a long time in great suffering until he was found. He was removed to Birchip, but inflammation having set in it has prevented the setting of the bone for the time being. Saturday 7 December 1907 RYAN. -On the 30th November, at her residence, No. 11 Albert street, Anne Ryan, sister of Thomas Ryan, Tuaggra street, Maryborough, native of Templemore, Co, Tipperary, Ireland. "Pray for her." RYAN. - On the 6th December, at his residence, Home Hotel, Launching Place, Michael Foster Ryan, who passed away peacefully, after a long and painful illness, aged 63 years. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you haven't already, you could try searching the trove website using RYAN and then Templemore in the search bix below - or Birchip or other places so any search will bring up the name RYAN and the place name as well. I have phoned a very nice man who has a list of burials at Birchip cemetery but the earliest burial there was 1893 - a JOhn RYAN, infant from Narraport. He has other RYANs listed but all are after this date - eg Mary buried 1911 aged 72 and Mary Anne buried 1942 aged 80 - both from Whirily..there was also an infant Bridget from Curyo buried 1910 - all RC religion. There must have been an earlier cemetery somewhere nearby - I checked Donald Cemetery, but no Ryans of interest...not sure where else to try around that area but you may like to try below. There are a lot of cemeteries listed here - some have all the names of those buried- others don't..but you may like to scout around here ( just click on the name of the cemetery to see what there is): http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvsac/Index.htm I seem to recall mention of Mt Mouriac...so include this: Name: John Ryan Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1856 State: Victoria District: South Grant Subdistrict: Mount Moriac a farmer at ( hard to read) ?Modewarre?, occupied by himself also this...as i think some children were born St Francis: Name: John Stephen Ryan- a surveyor Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1856 State: Victoria District: Melbourne Subdistrict: St Francis's also in the area were 3 Patricks, 2 Thomas' - one was a gentleman who owned 12 houses in Stuart St,the other was a publican ' Lamb Inn' in Elizabeth st and a Timothy who lived Stuart st, a labourer cheers Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/09/2012 09:25:19