I found this - only one that sort of matches! Name: Francis Baines - aged 31 Port of Departure: London Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales - also on the Pro Vic website Voyage Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1884 Vessel Name: John Elder But this fellow travelled with Margaret,18 Mary A,56, John, 20 and William BAINES, 52 There is also this: Name: Mr F Baines Port of Departure: Melbourne Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1883 Vessel Name: Ly Ee Moon Marriages Sep 1851 Baines James Chorlton 20 136 Quinn Margaret Chorlton 20 136 I am wondering where you got the info that the above were Francis's parents- the only Francis BAINES, with a birth of abt 1856 ( in Lancaster), I can find so far, is the son of Thomas and Margaret ( b 1826 Scotland) BAINES Perhaps if you have a few more clues, we can search further Cheers Jocelyn -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen Wells Sent: Friday, 24 August 2012 8:37 AM To: AUS-VIC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC] FRANCIS BAINES Hi List, Just need help in finding any records for FRANCIS (Frank) BAINES born Lancashire England about 1856, parents James Baines and Margaret Quinn. Arrived in Victoria 1884 but was murdered a short time later while searching for gold. Can not find anything on Trove Newspaper Archives, although have not completed a full search using name variants. Was hoping his death may have been reg in Vic. Many thanks Colleen Wells NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, Just need help in finding any records for FRANCIS (Frank) BAINES born Lancashire England about 1856, parents James Baines and Margaret Quinn. Arrived in Victoria 1884 but was murdered a short time later while searching for gold. Can not find anything on Trove Newspaper Archives, although have not completed a full search using name variants. Was hoping his death may have been reg in Vic. Many thanks Colleen Wells NSW

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10993.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Paula Just found the marriage : Groom's Name: Alexander Mcintosh Bride's Name: Sarah Haddow Nicholson Marriage Date: 26 Mar 1852 Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland Also found an article about Sir Charles HOTHAM, Governor of Victoria - he died 1855....you can google that. Maybe Alex got the job with him when he first arrived. also had a look for the parents in the earlier censuses to see if there are more clues...and I found quite a bit - hopefully this will be helpful for your research: 1841 NICHOLSON, Chas M 39 1802 Brush Manfr England NICHOLSON, Agnes F 36 1805 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Dorothy F 13 1828 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Sarah F 11 1830 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Agnes H F 7 1834 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Alice F 5 1836 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, James M 4 1837 Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Jessie F 1 1840 Forfarshire (Angus Address: 2, Peter Street, Dundee County: Forfarshire (Angus) 1851 NICHOLSON, Charles Head M 48 1803 Brush Maker England NICHOLSON, Agnes Wife F 42 1809 Glasgow, Lanarkshire NICHOLSON, Sarah H Daughter F 21 1830 Housekeeper Dundee, Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Agnes Daughter F 17 1834 Housekeeper Dundee, Forfarshire NICHOLSON, James Haddow Son M 13 1838 Appce Dundee, NICHOLSON, Jessie A Daughter F 10 1841 Dundee, NICHOLSON, Christopher Son M 6 1845 Dundee, Forfarshire Address: 2, Peter Street, Dundee County: Forfarshire (Angus) 1861 NICHOLSON, Agnes Wife Married F 53 1808 Glasgow, Lanarkshire NICHOLSON, Jessie A Daughter F 20 1841 House Maid Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus) Address: Peter Street, Dundee County: Forfarshire (Angus) Son James Haddow N was a brush manufacturer employing 3 men in 1861 - married to Elizabeth nee PRESTON - by 1871 he had a number of children. By 1881, he was doing very well, had a servant and employed a number of people as brush makers- and he had some more children-all daughters. By 1891, James had died, Elizabeth had most of the girls living with her as well as a granddaughter born NY USA 1885, called Mildred Elizabeth CHALMERS ( the daughter of Alice E b 1862 ) Dorothy may have married Edward JACKSON, a sacking weaver b Ireland - if so she had 2 children in 1861 so feeling lucky, I looked for the marriage: Groom's Name: Charles Nicholson Bride's Name: Agnes Haddow Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1825 Marriage Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland This is the closest birth I could find for Agnes: Agnes Haddow birth: 07 Aug 1804 GLASGOW,?LANARK,?SCOTLAND parents: James Haddow,? Agnes Ure and then I found this - you will see the above is correct: http://www.fdca.org.uk/pdf files/WesBapsNO.pdf you might like this record as well: http://www.fdca.org.uk/pdf files/1865RollN.pdf sarah's brother, Christopher Nicholas NICHOLSON b 1845, married Nnn McIntosh, and had a James Haddow NICHOLSON ( its possible he married a Mary first )..I found this on google: James Haddow NICHOLSON son of Christopher Nicholas and Mary Ann MS Ritchie 1901 NICHOLSON, Christopher Nicholas M 56 1845 Bank Messenger Dundee, Forfarshire NICHOLSON, Ann Mcintosh Wife F 55 1846 Perth,Perthshire NICHOLSON, James Haddow Son M 17 1884 Junior Clerk Hamilton, Lanarkshire Address: 12, Gordon Street, GlasgowCounty: Lanarkshire There was a son Charles J and a daughter Kathleen as well. It seems Christopher re-married 10 Aug 1910 to Catherine Webster DUNCAN in Broughty Ferry. Catherine died aged 74 in 1939 Name: Christopher Nicholas Nicholson Probate Date: 29 Mar 1926 Death Date: 12 Dec 1925 Death Place: Monifieth, Angus, Scotland Registry: London, England od Scotstown, 36 Ferry Rd, Monifieth, confirmation of Charles Nicholson James Fenton, Solicitor and James Anderson DONALDSON, cashier. Sealed 29 March .... You may like to contact the person below - she has some more inf plus a photo of James Haddow McINTOSH b 1857 ...James McIntosh died in 1919. I have the newspaper clipping from then that belonged to my Grandmother. He certainly was a brave soul. Contact me thewilchers@comcast.net and I'm in the USA, Indiana... .... Name: James McIntosh Probate Date: 16 Mar 1920 Death Date: 5 Oct 1919 Death Place: Glasgow, Scotland Registry: London, England .....can give more details if this is the correct fellow for you.... Here is the surprising bit - the story I have read for James Haddow McINTOSH is that the family moved back to Scotland 1867...however..... 1861 MCINTOSH, Sarah Head Married F 30 1831 Seaman's Wife Chief Mate Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus) MCINTOSH, Agnes Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar Australia MCINTOSH, Charles J Son M 6 1855 Scholar Australia MCINTOSH, James H Son M 4 1857 Australia MCINTOSH, Alexander A Son M 0 (4 MO) 1861 Kinnoull, Perthshire ARCHIBALD, Georgina Boarder Married F 24 1837 Cloth Presser Perth, Perthshire Address: Commercial Street, Kinnoull County: Perthshire Maybe Alexander didn't die in Australia.... regards Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johndove47 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/4261.5.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Abbey Walsh was my grandmother Joseph Dove my father Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pwh63 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10180.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Hart(13/2/1789-23/1/1864) was my ggg great uncle. I am descended through his sister Elizabeth(1770- 18/5/1848). They were both born in Rosemary Lane London. Their parents were Lazarus Hart(1743-20/1/1800) and Rachel(1752-17/9/1818). John served in the Royal Navy and later went to America. He married Isabella Levy in New York in 1820. There were four children, Henri John b 7/5/1820, Elvina b 22/101822, Isabella b 2/1/1827. and Louisa b 28/11/1829. Isabella died in 1830. He married his cousin Miriam(Louisa) Hart in New York on 3/7/1833. Elvina married Rabbi Moses Rintel born in Edinburgh Scotland in 1823, in Melbourne in August of 1823. If you want to know a great deal more, please get in touch with me Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10993.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I found some of the records - Sarah, nee NICHOLSON, and children went back to Scotland by 1871- she was a widow in the 1871 census Name: Charles John McIntosh Father's Name: Alexander McIntosh Mother's Name: Sarah Nicholson Birth Place: Richmond, Victoria Registration Year: 1854 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 3753 Name: Alice Elizabeth McIntosh Death Place: Victoria Age: 1 Month Father's Name: Alexander Mother's Name: Sarah Registration Year: 1856 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 2856 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Name: Alice Elizabeth McIntosh Father's Name: Alexander McIntosh Mother's Name: Sarah Nicholson Birth Place: Amherst, Victoria Registration Year: 1856 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 5656 Name: James Haddow McIntosh Father's Name: Alexander McIntosh Mother's Name: Sarah Nicholson Birth Place: Amherst, Victoria Registration Year: 1857 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 7133 They are back in Scotland in 1871 MCINTOSH, Sarah Head Widow F 41 1830 Annuitant Dundee, Forfarshire MCINTOSH, Agnes Daughter Unmarried F 18 1853 Tailoress Richmond Australia MCINTOSH, Charles J Son Unmarried M 16 1855 An Apprentice Engineer Richmond Australia Address: 89, Nethergate, Dundee County: Forfarshire (Angus) MCINTOSH, James H Son Unmarried M 13 1858 Message Boy Ambent Australia By 1881, Agnes had married: MCINTOSH, Sarah M Head Widow F 52 1829 Dundee, Forfarshire MCINTOSH, Charles J Son M 36 1845 Marine Engineer Victoria MCINTOSH, James H Son M 14 1867 Seaman M S Victoria GRAY, Agnes Mcintosh Daughter Married F 28 1853 Wife Of A Seaman Victoria GRAY, Alexander D Grandson M 9 1872 Scholar Dundee, Forfarshire GRAY, Sarah Mina Granddaughter F 7 1874 Scholar Dundee, Forfarshire GRAY, Roderick Grandson M 5 1876 ScholarDundee, Forfarshire GRAY, Christina Granddaughter F 1 1880 Dundee, Forfarshire Address: 55, Cowans Cottages, Monifieth County: Forfarshire (Angus) Agnes went on to have a large family -found her again in 1891. James Haddow McIntosh also married ( Hellen S ??) and had 4 children by 1891- Mother Sarah H is living with this family- she is lodging in 1901 - name is Sarah H H McIntosh with James and his wife and their 7 children Charles John McIntosh married Margaret and had 5 children by 1891 I have found some more info on the children of James, Charles & Agnes so if interested post back! ...There are a few deaths for Alexander McINTOSH - but working from Sarah's age, I have included a couple that might fit: Name: Alexander McIntosh Death Place: Victoria Age: 44 Registration Year: 1871 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 375 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Name: Alexander McIntosh Death Place: Victoria Age: 36 Registration Year: 1861 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 9907 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Name: Alexander McIntosh Death Place: Victoria Age: 30 Registration Year: 1860 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 4172 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 You would need to purchase the certs to be sure! This might be of relevance: The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956)Wednesday 3 November 1852 MR PETER PITKEATHLY, who left Dundee in May last, will oblige Mr Alexander McIntosh by leaving his address at the office of this paper. 14863 ............... There is this record - unfortunately, it is not online to view: Alexander McIntosh DEATH_YEAR 1857 NATURE_OF_GRANT Act Of Court Occupation Gold Miner GivenName Alexander FamilyName McIntosh AltName Title Residence Pleasant Creek Regards Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: warncoort1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10994.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Common names,no time frame and nothing on your tree to work with.Best to expand your post on relevant board. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: corahlf Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10993.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Was he from Breaknish, Isle of Skye? Leanne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mathiesonpamela Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10994/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have any info re mathieson and ross who moved to england from scotland Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulamoncrieff Surnames: McIntosh Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10993/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I have traced my gg grandad to Australia and found out he died over there around 1871, he was there alone by that time and i have hit a wall trying to find out exactly where he died or is buried. His name was Alexander McIntosh and arrived in Melbourne around 1852-53 with his wife Sarah, he was a master seaman. I believe they lived at Amherst and tried their luck digging for gold. they had at least four children ,James,Charles and Agnes, another baby,Alice died 1856 age 6wks I have heard Alexander became master of the governor of Melbourne`s yacht around 1869?? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: atthebeach51 Surnames: CUMMING Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10490.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do, what would you like to know? Robyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RosieSWA Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10991.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: capecres Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10713.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Victoria, I am pleased you have made contact with Angela. Yes, she is lovely and very helpful too. Best of luck with the ongoing research ! Shayne Lakey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: russk46 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10900.6.1.2.2.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: So from the copy of the death certificate of Herbert David Clark - born 1890 at 41 Buckhurst Street, South Melbourne, his father is registered as Henry Clark aged 39,so he must have been born in 1850,in North Adelaide, South Australia. No record of his birth there can be found - as yet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dj72green Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10991.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Most family history societies and some libraries have the original registers on microfiche. There are boys books, girls books, old series, new series etc. The index will give the reference numbers to be able to find the entries. They can provide a lot of information, as long as it was forthcoming in the first place. If the parents were known, then yes they will be named, together with the reason the child was admitted and sometimes the names of those that the child was apprenticed or fostered to. Debra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RosieSWA Surnames: Hanssen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10991/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering if anyone can tell me what information can be found on these registers.The information that is given on the index, tells me a page number and volume (Ballt)? Is there a lot of imformation such as parents, if the child was criminal or neglected? Also where do I find these Registers? Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: victoria_pichler Surnames: O'Brien/Lakey/Fitzpatrick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10713.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Shayne! Thank you very much for replying. In the last few months, I have "found" Patricia Fitzpatrick and have been in touch with her daughter Angela also. She has been wonderful and so generous with sharing her research. Together, we've also traced Michael Francis O'Brien's brothers who went to Western Australia, that the family in Victoria had not heard of since. I haven't looked into your (Lakey) family but I know Angela has. Everyone has been so helpful and it has been an occasionally emotional journey of discovery for my husband and his brother & cousins. With the passage of time, no known photographs now exist of Michael Francis O'Brien. We have obtained only one photo of one of his brothers (Cornelius) but no others from that particular generation. The search continues! Regards Victoria Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: zitavafiopulous Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10990/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi All, I am looking for relatives of Marian Martin Wright McFarlane - Born 1902 Died 1969. Father George. She married Walter Henry Roy O'Reilly on 4 Sep 1926 in Melbourne. Any tiny thread would be wonderful. Ta Zita Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_kemsafe Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/9183.3.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The date is wrong the william kemp born 1788 died 1833 buried 1833 not 1883 typo Herbert Kemp was a taylor who actually worked for David Jones one of the largest mens wear stores at the time in Melbourne and still going today I would agree you on the recorder getting it a little wrong. from local reseach it appears that two kemp families came to Australia about the same time As far as I cna ascertain there is no relationship between the two families. My email address should you wieh to contactt more direct is kemsafe@aussiebb.com.au Thankyou for you assistance I pend many hours trying to put our families history together Reg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shume_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/9480.13.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Sue since my computer upgrade to Windows 7 my Vic BMD discs don't work so I have had to rely on Ancestry although am not convinced they have the full details and accurate transcription. However, I did find at least 8 chn to Louisa and Wm which you probably have. The child John Hillgrove Polglase 1871-1872 which you thought was illeg., I suspect the father might be a John Hillgrove unless this is a family name. Also Polglases were Methodists from Wm James 1892-1916 AIF record so would have thought them to marry: however said Wm James was sought for desertion of illeg. child 1914. No marriage that I can find b/n Louisa and Wm. Have you purchased their death certs? Might say when and where they married although not always reliable. Stephanie shume@tpg.com.au if that's easier Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.