This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sue I have realised I had not looked for Alice very hard at all! Turns out she was indeed a very active actress in OZ and NZ and then she eloped with a married man - a famous author..if you search the TROVE newspapers etc, for David Christie MURRAY, you will find various articles including a messy divorce..and his Will ( he died 1907 of an aneurysm)...10 years earlier the family had got very sick when the drains leaked at their home in Kensington )- they had one son, Dudley Christie b 1893- died sadly 1924 ( a motor engineer), a son Maurice C, became a journalist, a daughter Margaret C and Dora C b 1901. He left 50 quid to Alice Marion DUDLEY, spinster. By 1911, Dora was boarding in Gloucester, Dudley& Maurice were at home with Mum , now calling herself Marion Christie-Murray and a widow! DAVID CHRISTIE MURRAY'S WILL. Mr. David Christie, Murray, well known as " Merlin," of. tho " liol oreo," and author ol' numerous novels, who died in August last, aged (ll) years, lett estato which has been sworn tts of tho gross valno of £60. His will is written on h small sheet of paper, and rends us follows ¡-" This is tho mab-will and testament'bf'mo, David Christin -Murray, novelist, journalist, and dramatist, at this moment domi- ciled at 114 Driilcoufleld-rond, Dalham, Loudon, S.W. Whatsoever may bo- long to ino nt tho time of my death [ give and bequeath, without condi- tion or reserve, to my dourly loved companion Alice Marion' Dudley. In minc mind and full health I nppond my name.-David Christie Murray." Tho will is undated, but nu affidavit has been flied which states it was made in February 1901 There is a photo of him: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/37351455/person/19369066092/photo/411aa087-5be6-4c57-8408-1db880924d4f?src=search When you check him out in 1901 you will see why we couldn't find Alice - surname wrong and birth place was NZ!!!!! Which explains why there was no record for her in OZ... an amazing family NZ: 1869/13788 Dudley Alice Marion to:Marion O'Brien Walter paperspast: BIRTH. On July 3, at her residence, Hobson-itreet, Auckland, Mrs Walter Dudley, of ft daughter.- Australian papers please copy also: DUDLEY.-At Melbourne, on April 13, Walter Dudley. Meat Salesman, late of Auckland, aged 48 years. Much regretted. also see his adverts in NZ papers from 1865! WW1 Name: Maurice Christie Murray address: 2 Torrington Sq Bloomsbury Served in France Name: Dudley Christie Murray Spouse Name: Miriam Violet Hume Record Type: Banns Event Date: 21 Jul 1912 Parish: Ladbroke Grove St John the Evangelist Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Register Type: Parish Register Dudley Christie MURRAY died 1921 in South Africa - he had one son: David Hugh Arthur Christie-Murray 1913 - 2010 David Hugh Arthur Christie-Murray Birth July 1913 in Greater London, London, Middlesex, United Kingdom Death 22 Mar 2010 in Royal Free Hospital, Hampstead Name: David H A Christie-murray Spouse Surname: Mumford Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942 Registration district: Kensington Inferred County: Middlesex Volume Number: 1a Page Number: 224 married Eva L E MUMFORD he may have later married Sheila ( 1975) Name: Eva L E Christie-murray Birth: abt 1915 Death: Mar 1967 - Harrow, Greater London, England Their children: Name: Anne E Christie-murray Birth: Jun 1946 - Chatham, Surrey,Kent Name: Alison J Christie-murray Birth: Sep 1951 - Willesden, Kent Name: Susan H Christie-murray Birth: Dec 1952 - Willesden, Middlesex Miriam Violet Hume Birth 22 Dec 1891 in Llanrug, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death Dec 1969 in Llanberis, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marion Christie Murray was a witness to the marriage Maurice awarded medal for gallantry in WW1: The Times (London, England), Saturday, Aug 26, 1916 sadly though he died - there is a photo of him as well: http://lewishamwarmemorials.wikidot.com/person:christie-murray-maurice-mc http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/551727/CHRISTIE-MURRAY, MAURICE I found Marion sailing back to England 1930 with daughter Dora aged 28, a stage writer - intended address 9 Clifton Gardens Maida Vale: Name: Marion Christie-Murray, Musician Birth Date: abt 1869 Age: 61 Port of departure: Australia Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1930 Port of arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Brisbane Ship Name: Baradine also.... Name: Frank Cawley - he married Dora Birth Date: abt 1887 Age: 43 Port of departure: Australia Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1930 Port of arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Brisbane Ship Name: Baradine then...my goodness: Murray's daughter, Dora Christie Murray, said in a 1929 interview that years earlier her father had given her adopted brother a fatal overdose of a prescribed opiate. She explained that after her brother became seriously ill and the family was told that there was no hope of recovery, her father decided to put an end to his suffering as his condition grew more and more painful. The subject had come up during a debate in the British press over mercy killing. more here on the tragedy: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/21492370 Dora married In Sydney: The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Wednesday 18 May 1932 But sadly Frank Reginald CAWLEY died 1944 - he was the resident Magistrate in New Guinea.Born 1887! They lived at 25 Horsely Ave, Willoughby - not far from where I live!- you can google the address to see the house! great interview with her here- there are lots of mentions in the papers for her - she was a blonde!she had previously been engaged to a Welshman - see 1930: The Daily News (Perth, WA : 1882 - 1950) Tuesday 19 April 1932 has a photo of her: Barrier Miner (Broken Hill, NSW : 1888 - 1954)Thursday 22 May 1930 Dora re-married 1945: 12911/1945 MACARTHUR DONALD MCINTYRE CAWLEY DORA CHRISTIE in SYDNEY Name: Dora Christie McArthur Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1958 State: New South Wales District: Bradfield Subdistrict: Chatswood at 160 Victoria Ave Chatswood - Librarian - at my local library! Same in 1963 - no husband- Donald died 1950 in Urana NSW Dora died 1992: McARTHUR Dora Christie Death notice 13MAR1992 Death 91 late of Waitara Sydney Morning Herald 16MAR1992 and this for a good laugh- Marion is appalled at the morals of the young girls these days!!! The Register News-Pictorial (Adelaide, SA : 1929 - 1931) Friday 9 May 1930 full story obit for David: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614905/bio This might be Alice Marion DUDLEY's death: Name: Marion C Murray Birth: abt 1869 Death: Sep 1941 - Launceston, Cornwall, England So thats it for now :-)) Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ebrowne2006 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/8592.2.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Noel, Sorry you are wuite right, when I reread the posts, i realised I had made a mistake. Good hunting. regards Eva Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi Sue I agree - I am going to have to pass this over to you - I have a busy time ahead as well...but I loved the photo of Grace - gorgeous! I hope you buy it! That was great news about Alice as well- I was worried she had died as there has been nothing in the records and I have to confess I haven't read all the articles carefully - just grabbed what I could find Charles and Grace definitely separated - Grace said she was married in 1911- was the article after 1911 about Charles and wife in a play? I found earlier ones....they state the Theatre companies they were with on the Ellis Islands records, so you might like to look at that to see when they changed companies. I searched US records in the hope Grace ran off to live there but nothing appears. I wonder if she changed her name after the separation - he was a bigger star than she was and there was a lot of shame with marriage breakdowns in those days. So now we have to find Alice...and work out who Olive DUDLEY belonged to...but that will have to be another day You can join your local library and get access to the Gale newspapers ( Times and all the old newspapers)( check they have access to it) and heaps more - and search them from home...also the New York Times is online - CC features more often than Grace..if I get a minute I will try some of the other papers We did well from your initial inquiry didn't we!! but you didn't say if there is a family resemblance! I suspect she took after her Irish ancestors with that colouring:-)) Cheers Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: topaz00511 Surnames: Dudley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jocelyn, The article dated 2nd Jan., 1896 mentions that her sister Alice was also an actress. Anyway, I must take a break. Two busy days ahead of me, possibly no time for FH. Will revert soon. Thanks, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: topaz00511 Surnames: Dudley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jocelyn, I have found a picture of Grace Dudley on Ebay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1896-Cinderella-Miss-Grace-Dudley-Grand-Theatre-Leeds-/330793914593?pt=UK_art_prints_GL&hash=item4d04da90e1 Cheers, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: topaz00511 Surnames: Dudley Pierse Cherry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jocelyn, You've been working hard again, I can't keep up with you. I am taking up so much of your time, I feel quite bad about it. I did find a bit about Charles Cherry this morning, saying that he appeared in two plays in 1915 and 1916, in the US, and also that he appeared on Broadway, together with his wife Grace. But, that is all that I've managed today. Life is getting in the way. Oh, and I looked at the National Archives and could not find a divorce for Charles and Grace, so maybe I was wrong. What made me think that this was the case was the fact that Charles said he was single on the passenger list in 1907. They did travel a lot. Yes, I found the long report on the Pierse family very interesting too, and saw that the name Dudley was misspelt. I have been trying to find a picture of Grace to see it there is any family resemblance, but no luck so far.At least now I know how tall she was and the colour of her hair. May I ask you how you managed to find the old Times articles? The information that you have given me is all very valuable. It's going to keep me busy for a long time to come. Thanks very much, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Interesting she used her married name to 1911...I found a description of her on Ellis Island...I know the info has already been posted, but there is a tiny bit more First Name: Grace E. Last Name: Cherry Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: London, Eng. Date of Arrival: Aug 14, 1904 Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Cedric Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0010 First Name: Grace Edith Last Name: Cherry Ethnicity: England, English Last Place of Residence: London, England Date of Arrival: Oct 31, 1911 Age at Arrival: 30y Gender: F Marital Status: M Ship of Travel: Kronprinz Wilhelm Port of Departure: Southampton Manifest Line Number: 0009 She is 5' 4" fair complexion, red hair and grey eyes. Staying at the Manhatten Hotel. Friend is ?C F? JOHNSTONE this inof is on the Ellis Island website - she on PAGE 377 and 378...Line 9...I have just spent half an hour wading through!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You will find Charles CHERRY in plays in NZ and also Grace DUDLEY ( note the dates) see http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I found Grace returning to London from melbourne - travelling with mr & Mrs ASHFORD - both actors..actually the Miss DUDLEY may be Olive DUDLEY - I need to check this again Name: Miss Dudley - actress Port of departure: Australia Arrival Date: 16 Apr 1910 Port of arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Sydney [Melbourne] [Adelaide] [Colombo] Ship Name: Orontes lovely article about Australian actresses ( icludes Grace D) etc: The Brisbane Courier Thursday 11 June 1903 Finally found the newspaper notice for Marion nee PIERSE DUDLEY's death: The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. Friday 1 March 1895 here is a great article on the PIERSE Family - they have a little bit wrong ( eg DUXBY instead of DUDLEY)but this is a fantastic record of the family: http://www.winsolve.webspace.virginmedia.com/pierse/english_pierses.pdf here is a snip which shows how the names were derived: In this environment, John Fitzmaurice Pierse grew up, probably earning his living as a saddler, but towards the end of the 18th C., he removed to Newcastle West in Co. Limerick, where he met and later married Miss Johanna O'Brien, eldest daughter of Pierce O'Brien and his wife Johanna, née de Lacy of nearby Templeglantin. He was then in his early 30s and Johanna O'Brien was probably a few years his junior. It should be noted that the info about Kathleen PIERSE is a tad incorrect- I have found her marriage to John James CROKER 1866 in Otahuhu Auckland - he was born Cornwall but lived in Devon - he was a printer by trade ( I think he arrived OZ 1859) and soon after his marriage thought he would make an excellent cattle dealer- shipping animals around NZ - the couple had moved to Wanganui NZ, but shortly after JJC went bankrupt owing 5000 quid- there is quite a bit in the NZ ' Paperspast' website about him...he died in Vic OZ. Later, his father also emigrated to OZ. .............. record in UK archives: [no title] MS 11936/559/1261052 8 November 1837 Contents: Insured: William Fitzmaurice Pierse, 17 Princes Street Spital Fields, superintendent of police ............ Checked out that Grace in 1891 -the name actually looks like O'Shannessy..so i doubt she is our lass ........................................... In 1925, Lady Emily CHERRY wrote to the Times saying that the Malcolm CHERRY who died was not her son. Her son Charles CHERRY, who was playing in ' The Pelican' at the Ambassador Theatre was yachting in the Mediterranean .................. Just wondering where you got the info Charles & Grace nee DUDLEY divorced....Grace appears in the Times up to 1906 and then nothing after that ......I found Charles attending an Actor's Benevalent Fundraiser in Feb 1931- just before he died..he was with the likes of Sybil Thorndike and Philip Snowden! ............... Found the death notice ( Times) for Charles CHERRY 31 Aug 1931 - died suddenly of Angina Pectoris, only son of Lady Emily and the late James Frederick CHERRY. Service at Brookwood Crem, Woking. New York and Montreal papers please copy On 01 Sep 1931, notice that cremation had been postponed - to be advised the next day. No flowers by request 02 Sep - cremation that day ...................... Mother Emily Louisa CHERRY was living at 192 St James Court,Buckinham Gate - next door was Major PRINGLE ( Gladys' husband) then: The Times (London, England), Saturday, Apr 25, 1936; pg. 15; Funeral held yesterday for lady Emily Louisa CHERRY...cremation at Woking..lots of names of those who attended ... a fab Obit in the TIMES 1925 for the other son, Malcolm CHERRY who died 1925 aged 46 - also a famous actor - he married an actress who used the name Una VENNING - they had a daughter b 1919 Cheers Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Philippa58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/8592.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Noel I have changed my information to reflect the marriage notice you located. Many thanks for sending this. Cheers Philippa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: noeldoyle07 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/8592.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Philippa Thank you for your message. I always thought that Margaret was actually originally from Dublin. I found a marriage notice in the Sydney Morning Herald from 30 November 1848 which refers to her father being Andrew Field, of Sydney, late of Henry Street, Dublin. "On the 16th instant, at Melbourne, Port Phillip, at the Church of St. Francis by the Rev. Dean Coffee, Mr. James Doyle of the county of Wexford, Ireland, brother to the Rev. Thomas Doyle of New Ross [Ramsgrange] in the same county and relative of the late Right Rev. Dr. Doyle, Catholic Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin [pretty sure this is not correct] to Margaret Isabel, second daughter of Mr. Andrew Field of Sydney, late of Henry-Street Dublin and god-daughter of the Lord and Lady Ventry, Birwan House, County Kerry, Ireland [again not sure if this is true?]" James was born in Tombrick, Newtownbarry (now known as Bunclody), Co. Wexford. I don't know when he left Ireland and/or arrived in Australia. I am his great-great nephew. I also found reference to James being landlord of the Cerberus Hotel, Morris St., Williamstown in 1877. Noel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: noeldoyle07 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/8592.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Eva Many thanks for your message. Unfortunately I don't think we are the same Doyles. Good luck with your research Noel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: topaz00511 Surnames: Dudley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jocelyn, At a glance, I don't think that Alfred Dudley was one of mine as he was from Staffordshire. May be distantly related, but I haven't managed to go back that far on the Dudleys yet. Mine were all from Tower Hamlets, London. Will have to have a closer look. Thanks, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: topaz00511 Surnames: Dudley Pierse Love Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jocelyn, You are quite right there, you definitely have given me a lot to work on. Sorry to have taken so much of your time. Walter's father was a butcher too. I really cannot understand why he called himself a gentleman in the 1851 census. No wonder he didn't want to marry Mary Ann Love, he wanted someone more upper-classed. Funny, Lilla's eldest daughter was like that too. Marion O'Brien Dudley returned to England and died in Camberwell in 1895, that is all I have so far. As for daughter Alice, no, I don't know yet, but will definitely try to find out. It seems that there's nothing on Ancestry about her. It seems that Grace and Charles divorced before 1907. I will have a look at the National Archives. I will let you know if I find out what happened to Grace. Thank you so much for your help. Have a good weekend. Best wishes, Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: About Grace and her age - I meant to double check the original Census but forgot to- Findmypast often has errors in the transcript..I will check romorrow if I remember...I didn't do anything on Alfred DUDLEY - could be a red herring so needs some more work Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jocelyn1411 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11044.1.2.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sue yes it is an amazing family - I was astonished to find the DUDLEY's became actors- from butchers to actors! I guess it was the influence of the PIERSE family that brought that change. Have you ever found out what happened to Marian nee PIERSE and the other daughter Alice? I have hunted high and low to try to find Grace after about 1909 when Charles CHERRY gave her name as his relative in London. There are a few more avenues I will try tomorrow but I am thinking she met someone else and went off to the Continent! Interesting that Walter's brother also came out to Oz...I haven't done any work on the early DUDLEY's as it took all day to find what I found today...its hard work when they gallivant about like this :-)) anyway, I hope I have found enough to keep you busy for a long while...but if you find Marian and the girls, do post back as I'd love to know. Cheers Jocelyn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kellihogan1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11045.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Excellent, I hope so. He did claim a pension (or whatever the correct terminology is) through Veterans affairs and I requested his service records a few weeks ago, hopefully it will shed some light. I never actually considered that side of it. He was definitely using his birth name when he enlisted. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jenny070162 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/10971.5.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow you are a wealth of information. Obviously you have been researching for sometime. I would be more than happy and very appreciative of any info you have. Funny...I didn't know that mum wrote a letter asking for John cutts medals. That would be really interesting to see. Cheers Jenny Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fryerning Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/11045.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There might not be any record of formal name change. If Arthur John in later life wanted to access veterans entitlements there might be a notation on his army file recording the name change. It might be worth getting the record file from National Archives?. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kristianargote Surnames: Forbes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.vic.general/9548.1.2.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jen My father (dec) is Luke Anthony Forbes, brother of Ken and John and son of Kenneth Forbes Jr. Kenneth was the brother of a Donald Forbes who owned and ran the Glen Thompson brickworks and owned and lived at WINTOC in Glen Thompson, rural Victoria. Their father was Kenneth Snr. I am fairly sure Donald was named after the Kenneth Snrs brother Donald and that this Donald is the Donald in your post below. I would love to share info - look forward to your response Thanks Amber Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.