Hello there Listers We also would like to know if any of the above Registers are on line. Samuel Morrison , husband of Mary Quill, great grandma of my husband Ron Morrison was one we know of. Ron’s actual great grandfather John McNamara second husband of said Mary Quill may have been one too. We would like to know more about John McNamara, he is the Irish ancestor we didn’t know we had. Kind regards Joy Morrison Western Australia

Hi Joy, Mostly when a convict obtained a ticket of leave it was written on their convict record. Often there was a notice in the local newspaper. The Guide to the Public Records Office of Tasmania, Section Three, Convict Department is a good guide to check for where to find information about convicts.  It's online at https://stors.tas.gov.au/au-7-0038-00120_1 and can be searched with C(control)+F.  Rather than ticket of leave just look for both ticket and tickets. This record gives references to many of the convict (CON) volumes and these can be searched on the home page of Libraries Tasmania (formerly LINC) https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Pages/Home.aspx Good luck with your research. Cheers,  Maree On 29/07/2018 4:40 PM, Joy Morrison wrote: > Hello there Listers > We also would like to know if any of the above Registers are on line. > > Samuel Morrison , husband of Mary Quill, great grandma of my husband Ron Morrison was one we know of. Ron’s actual great grandfather John McNamara second husband of said Mary Quill may have been one too. > > We would like to know more about John McNamara, he is the Irish ancestor we didn’t know we had. > > Kind regards > Joy Morrison Western Australia >

Hi Listers, I believe it was my post that bought up the mention of Ticket of Leave registers. As Maree points out most details are written in a convicts conduct record. I have found in my research that there are some, I guess "hidden' volumes that can add little extras to your convict ancestor...and its hit or miss if you will find any information !!. Most districts and towns have a POL (police) series and some of them maintained Ticket of Leave or Pass holder registers. Probably kept by the local magistrate for the local environs. Some may have not made it to the Archives due to destruction, passing of time or simple never exited in the first place. The best example I can give is for one of my convicts, Catherine Cantilen (Cantillon) who arrive on the Midlothian in 1853. - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-36,178,30,F,60 In her conduct record under 'Services' there are just a couple of entries. However in the New Norfolk police series there is a volume - https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fARCHIVES_ITEMS$002f0$002fPOL516-1-1/one?qu=ARCHIVE_915%3D%22POL516%2F1%2F1%22 Its titled 'Register of Female Ticket of Leave Holders in the District showing Place of Residence.' This one is only on microfilm and hasn't been digitized. Now in 1855 she married William Clark (YES...that William Clark !!) - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-14p440j2k Two of the witnesses were Wm and Sarah Albery. I scratched my head for a long time wondering what the connection was with them but when I located the POL 516 volume I found that Catherine had been assigned to them at the beginning of her service. That wasn't displayed in her conduct record. It went through a number of other masters before she ended residing at the Falls with her husband. Again other masters not mentioned in her conduct record. The Alberys licenced a pub at the time so perhaps William had spied Catherine when he went in for a tipple one day... I guess I was lucky that the New Norfolk police magistrate kept these records and they survived to the present day... So if you can find when you convict might have been a ticket of leaver and the area they were in you might...I say might...have luck finding a volume as the one I have discussed above. Cheers, Peter On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 7:26 AM Maree Ring <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Joy, > Mostly when a convict obtained a ticket of leave it was written on their > convict record. Often there was a notice in the local newspaper. > The Guide to the Public Records Office of Tasmania, Section Three, > Convict Department is a good guide to check for where to find > information about convicts. It's online at > https://stors.tas.gov.au/au-7-0038-00120_1 and can be searched with > C(control)+F. Rather than ticket of leave just look for both ticket and > tickets. > This record gives references to many of the convict (CON) volumes and > these can be searched on the home page of Libraries Tasmania (formerly > LINC) https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Pages/Home.aspx > Good luck with your research. > Cheers, Maree > > On 29/07/2018 4:40 PM, Joy Morrison wrote: > > Hello there Listers > > We also would like to know if any of the above Registers are on line. > > > > Samuel Morrison , husband of Mary Quill, great grandma of my husband Ron > Morrison was one we know of. Ron’s actual great grandfather John McNamara > second husband of said Mary Quill may have been one too. > > > > We would like to know more about John McNamara, he is the Irish ancestor > we didn’t know we had. > > > > Kind regards > > Joy Morrison Western Australia > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Peter, Yes it was your post that drew my attention. I have seen the details on my Adam Moore's conduct record but am curious as to where he resided in Launceston. Adam Moore per "Maitland" was granted a ticket of Leave on 18 March 1844. If you have the time to look up some volumes to see if any additional information is available ie place of residence /or who he worked for as a butcher in Launceston, it would be much appreciated. Chris in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Oakley" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 11:25 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Ticket of Leave Holders - Register > Hi Listers, > > I believe it was my post that bought up the mention of Ticket of Leave > registers. As Maree points out most details are written in a convicts > conduct record. > > I have found in my research that there are some, I guess "hidden' volumes > that can add little extras to your convict ancestor...and its hit or miss > if you will find any information !!. Most districts and towns have a POL > (police) series and some of them maintained Ticket of Leave or Pass holder > registers. Probably kept by the local magistrate for the local environs. > Some may have not made it to the Archives due to destruction, passing of > time or simple never exited in the first place. > > The best example I can give is for one of my convicts, Catherine Cantilen > (Cantillon) who arrive on the Midlothian in 1853. > > - > http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-36,178,30,F,60 > > In her conduct record under 'Services' there are just a couple of entries. > However in the New Norfolk police series there is a volume - > > https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fARCHIVES_ITEMS$002f0$002fPOL516-1-1/one?qu=ARCHIVE_915%3D%22POL516%2F1%2F1%22 > > Its titled 'Register of Female Ticket of Leave Holders in the District > showing Place of Residence.' This one is only on microfilm and hasn't been > digitized. Now in 1855 she married William Clark (YES...that William Clark > !!) - > > https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-14p440j2k > > Two of the witnesses were Wm and Sarah Albery. I scratched my head for a > long time wondering what the connection was with them but when I located > the POL 516 volume I found that Catherine had been assigned to them at the > beginning of her service. That wasn't displayed in her conduct record. It > went through a number of other masters before she ended residing at the > Falls with her husband. Again other masters not mentioned in her conduct > record. The Alberys licenced a pub at the time so perhaps William had > spied > Catherine when he went in for a tipple one day... > > I guess I was lucky that the New Norfolk police magistrate kept these > records and they survived to the present day... > > So if you can find when you convict might have been a ticket of leaver and > the area they were in you might...I say might...have luck finding a volume > as the one I have discussed above. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 7:26 AM Maree Ring <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Joy, >> Mostly when a convict obtained a ticket of leave it was written on their >> convict record. Often there was a notice in the local newspaper. >> The Guide to the Public Records Office of Tasmania, Section Three, >> Convict Department is a good guide to check for where to find >> information about convicts. It's online at >> https://stors.tas.gov.au/au-7-0038-00120_1 and can be searched with >> C(control)+F. Rather than ticket of leave just look for both ticket and >> tickets. >> This record gives references to many of the convict (CON) volumes and >> these can be searched on the home page of Libraries Tasmania (formerly >> LINC) https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Pages/Home.aspx >> Good luck with your research. >> Cheers, Maree >> >> On 29/07/2018 4:40 PM, Joy Morrison wrote: >> > Hello there Listers >> > We also would like to know if any of the above Registers are on line. >> > >> > Samuel Morrison , husband of Mary Quill, great grandma of my husband >> > Ron >> Morrison was one we know of. Ron’s actual great grandfather John McNamara >> second husband of said Mary Quill may have been one too. >> > >> > We would like to know more about John McNamara, he is the Irish >> > ancestor >> we didn’t know we had. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Joy Morrison Western Australia >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello Peter, When you say that William Clark/e, was that ever resolved, my William parents were William & Ann Clark nee Merrill. There was so much debate over him. Regards Margaret. ----- Hi Listers, The best example I can give is for one of my convicts, Catherine Cantilen (Cantillon) who arrive on the Midlothian in 1853. Its titled 'Register of Female Ticket of Leave Holders in the District showing Place of Residence.' This one is only on microfilm and hasn't been digitized. Now in 1855 she married William Clark (YES...that William Clark !!) - > > > > _______________________________________________ >

Hi Margaret, No the mystery of William Clark ( he who has been the bane of the list for many years) hasn’t reached any conclusion. I for one, have searched every avenue I can conceive but to no avail. A number of his descendants have had DNA testing done in the last few years so I’m hoping that one day we might have a breakthrough that way and his story may be told... Cheers, Peter On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 5:20 pm, Margaret Bradshaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Peter, When you say that William Clark/e, was that ever > resolved, > my William parents were William & Ann Clark nee Merrill. There was so > much > debate over him. Regards Margaret. > ----- > > Hi Listers, > > > > The best example I can give is for one of my convicts, Catherine Cantilen > (Cantillon) who arrive on the Midlothian in 1853. > > > > Its titled 'Register of Female Ticket of Leave Holders in the District > showing Place of Residence.' This one is only on microfilm and hasn't been > digitized. Now in 1855 she married William Clark (YES...that William Clark > !!) - > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thanks for the reply Peter. William Clark lives on. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Peter Oakley Sent: Friday, August 03, 2018 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Ticket of Leave Holders - Register Hi Margaret, No the mystery of William Clark ( he who has been the bane of the list for many years) hasn’t reached any conclusion. I for one, have searched every avenue I can conceive but to no avail. > ----- > > !!) - > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Listers, there is some helpful information at the following website re:  Tickets of Leave -- I do note that the digitized images are available on Ancestry for NSW 1810-1869....but could only find the indexed info for TAS. Hope this is of some help.  --  Cheers, Elaine - TAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/convicts/tickets-of-leave   And from Ancestry: Samuell MorrisonVessel: MaydaProvince: TasmaniaTitle: PardonsYear(s): 1852-1853Place of Conviction: Nottingham And there are a number of John McNamarra listings: John Mcnamarra    1 May 1839 Java (3) John McNamarra    26 Jun 1839 Java 1 John Macnamara  11 Mar 1850 Havering John Mcnamara 1809 1 Dec 1833 Eliza (5) John Mcnamara  27 Dec 1830 Minerva 3 John Mcnamara  4 Oct 1836 Jane John Mcnamara  1 Aug 1839 Forth (3) John McNamara  28 Aug 1840 Forth 3 John Mcnamara  30 Nov 1849 Havering On Saturday, July 28, 2018 11:36 PM, Joy Morrison <[email protected]> wrote: Hello there Listers We also would like to know if any of the above Registers are on line. Samuel Morrison , husband of Mary Quill, great grandma of my husband Ron Morrison was one we know of. Ron’s actual great grandfather John McNamara second husband of said Mary Quill may have been one too. We would like to know more about John McNamara, he is the Irish ancestor we didn’t know we had. Kind regards Joy Morrison Western Australia _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected]sweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community