Hello Listers, I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris Melbourne

Hi Chris. Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy family. Than just as Mis or Master. It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? Helen Brown Sent from my iPad > On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Helen, Thanks for clues about passenger lists. Yes I've tried every search imaginable in NZ. I wonder whether the children died in Tasmania. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:01 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Hi Chris. > Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy > family. Than just as Mis or Master. > It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might > find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . > Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? > Helen Brown > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to >> locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at >> Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born >> 1845 and 47 respectively >> >> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka >> Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children >> in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed >> Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen >> Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >> >> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for >> Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. >> >> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) >> eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and >> asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr >> who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out >> from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >> >> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam >> Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he >> fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby >> Ellen's death. >> >> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but >> the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some >> 20 years later in Auckland. >> >> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 >> (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL >> with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port >> Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before >> on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as >> infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. >> >> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, >> Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of >> birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >> >> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy >> via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy >> at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked >> them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. >> They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I >> have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >> >> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they >> arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom >> appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 >> boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. >> >> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 >> and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would >> leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in >> foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate >> their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children >> not listed on shipping lists? >> >> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> Melbourne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I will see if I can find deaths though you seem to have done everything. What about Victoria? Sent from my iPad > On 17 Jul 2018, at 2:08 pm, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Helen, > > Thanks for clues about passenger lists. Yes I've tried every search imaginable in NZ. I wonder whether the children died in Tasmania. > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:01 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > > >> Hi Chris. >> Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy family. Than just as Mis or Master. >> It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . >> Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? >> Helen Brown >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Listers, >>> >>> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively >>> >>> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >>> >>> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. >>> >>> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >>> >>> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. >>> >>> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. >>> >>> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. >>> >>> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >>> >>> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >>> >>> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. >>> >>> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? >>> >>> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >>> >>> Thanking you in anticipation. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> Melbourne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>> Contact Admin [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I've searched Tasmania and Victoria under Carr/Kerr and Moore but fresh eyes might spot something new. Thank you Helen. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:16 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania >I will see if I can find deaths though you seem to have done everything. > What about Victoria? > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 17 Jul 2018, at 2:08 pm, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Helen, >> >> Thanks for clues about passenger lists. Yes I've tried every search >> imaginable in NZ. I wonder whether the children died in Tasmania. >> >> Chris >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:01 PM >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam >> Carr 1847- Tasmania >> >> >>> Hi Chris. >>> Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a >>> wealthy family. Than just as Mis or Master. >>> It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You >>> might find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried >>> both . >>> Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? >>> Helen Brown >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Listers, >>>> >>>> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to >>>> locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at >>>> Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr >>>> born 1845 and 47 respectively >>>> >>>> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka >>>> Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 >>>> children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 >>>> unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named >>>> Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >>>> >>>> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert >>>> for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these >>>> births. >>>> >>>> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) >>>> eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and >>>> asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr >>>> who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out >>>> from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >>>> >>>> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with >>>> Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect >>>> that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well >>>> after baby Ellen's death. >>>> >>>> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but >>>> the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some >>>> 20 years later in Auckland. >>>> >>>> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and >>>> 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them >>>> leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the >>>> "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port >>>> Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children >>>> may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in >>>> Tasmania or Victoria. >>>> >>>> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, >>>> drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The >>>> year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >>>> >>>> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy >>>> via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port >>>> Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I >>>> tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls >>>> from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 >>>> and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >>>> >>>> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that >>>> they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of >>>> whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that >>>> these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death >>>> certificates. >>>> >>>> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in >>>> 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents >>>> would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed >>>> in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone >>>> locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were >>>> children not listed on shipping lists? >>>> >>>> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >>>> >>>> Thanking you in anticipation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> Melbourne >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin [email protected] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>>> Unsubscribe and Archives >>>> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >>>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>>> community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>> Contact Admin [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe and Archives >>> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >>> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >>> community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello Chris, not sure you you have come across this information. According to the baptism register of St Joseph's Catholic Church, Launceston, Adam Alexander Carr, born 22 May 1847, was baptised at the Launceston Female Factory on 30 May 1847. Parents were Charlotte Carr and Adam Moore, godmother Bridget Dignan. There is another puzzling entry, though. It's for a Catherine Carr, born 14 May 1845 (same date as your Charlotte), and baptised on 6 June 1845. Parents Jane Carr, and George Levi, godmother Catherine Maguire. I've checked the birth register on TNI, and the only things in common are the date of birth and the family name. Sorry to add to your puzzles! Judy -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Hello Listers, I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris Melbourne _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Judy, this is a wonderful pice of information which I haven't seen. It confirms Adam Moore as the father, and that one of Adam's parents was a Catholic. Adam senior must have been given permission to go to Female Factory for the baptism! How did you find this please? While the dob is coincidental for Catherine, parents don't fit! Thank you again Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Hello Chris, not sure you you have come across this information. > > According to the baptism register of St Joseph's Catholic Church, > Launceston, Adam Alexander Carr, born 22 May 1847, was baptised at the > Launceston Female Factory on 30 May 1847. > Parents were Charlotte Carr and Adam Moore, godmother Bridget Dignan. > > There is another puzzling entry, though. > It's for a Catherine Carr, born 14 May 1845 (same date as your Charlotte), > and baptised on 6 June 1845. > Parents Jane Carr, and George Levi, godmother Catherine Maguire. > I've checked the birth register on TNI, and the only things in common are > the date of birth and the family name. > > Sorry to add to your puzzles! > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to > locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. > Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 > respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka > Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children > in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed > Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. > As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for > Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) > eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked > the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died > in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and > am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam > Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he > fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby > Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the > application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 > years later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 > (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL > with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port > Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on > "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young > children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, > Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of > birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy > via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy > at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked > them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. > They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have > wads of information about their lives in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they > arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom > appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 > boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 > and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would > leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster > care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their > deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not > listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Chris, the details come from the baptism register of St Joseph's Church, 1845-1851, which is available on microfilm at the State Archives in Hobart, ref. NS1052/1/19. I'm not sure about the arrangements for clergymen to visit the Female Factory in Launceston, but I'm assuming that the baptism took place there, as it would be unlikely that the mother would be allowed to leave the premises. It's also fairly unlikely that Adam Moore would have been present. Not sure where he was assigned at the time. They probably didn't marry because Charlotte's first husband William Richardson was still alive in Ireland. Have you looked at her Conduct Record recently, available on TAHO? William is mentioned there, and the births of two children at the FF are noted, in red ink, the first called Catherine, the second Abel!!! Big problems with names here. Good luck Judy -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Judy, this is a wonderful pice of information which I haven't seen. It confirms Adam Moore as the father, and that one of Adam's parents was a Catholic. Adam senior must have been given permission to go to Female Factory for the baptism! How did you find this please? While the dob is coincidental for Catherine, parents don't fit! Thank you again Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Hello Chris, not sure you you have come across this information. > > According to the baptism register of St Joseph's Catholic Church, > Launceston, Adam Alexander Carr, born 22 May 1847, was baptised at the > Launceston Female Factory on 30 May 1847. > Parents were Charlotte Carr and Adam Moore, godmother Bridget Dignan. > > There is another puzzling entry, though. > It's for a Catherine Carr, born 14 May 1845 (same date as your Charlotte), > and baptised on 6 June 1845. > Parents Jane Carr, and George Levi, godmother Catherine Maguire. > I've checked the birth register on TNI, and the only things in common are > the date of birth and the family name. > > Sorry to add to your puzzles! > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to > locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. > Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 > respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka > Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children > in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed > Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. > As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for > Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) > eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked > the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died > in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and > am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam > Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he > fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby > Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the > application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 > years later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 > (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL > with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port > Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on > "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young > children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, > Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of > birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy > via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy > at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked > them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. > They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have > wads of information about their lives in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they > arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom > appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 > boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 > and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would > leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster > care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their > deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not > listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Judy, Adam Moore father was a butcher and I'm not sure where in Launceston he was assigned. Thanks for the input about the "mechanics" of parental involvement in the baptism. I note you regard Charlotte's husband William as Richardson....I've scrutinised the conduct record and haven't been able to conclude whether she was Richardson or Kerr at birth. On the Aus-Irish Transportation database, she appears under Richardson and Kerr. As her marriage certificate in NZ in 1864 when she finally married Adam Moore states Charlotte Richardson spinster, I have believed this to be her birth name, but she has been inconsistent in her recordings. Within our family, we have known her as Richardson. You have given me more food for thought... Thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 12:20 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Chris, the details come from the baptism register of St Joseph's Church, > 1845-1851, which is available on microfilm at the State Archives in > Hobart, ref. NS1052/1/19. > > I'm not sure about the arrangements for clergymen to visit the Female > Factory in Launceston, but I'm assuming that the baptism took place there, > as it would be unlikely that the mother would be allowed to leave the > premises. It's also fairly unlikely that Adam Moore would have been > present. Not sure where he was assigned at the time. They probably didn't > marry because Charlotte's first husband William Richardson was still alive > in Ireland. Have you looked at her Conduct Record recently, available on > TAHO? William is mentioned there, and the births of two children at the FF > are noted, in red ink, the first called Catherine, the second Abel!!! Big > problems with names here. > > Good luck > > Judy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr 1847- Tasmania > > Judy, this is a wonderful pice of information which I haven't seen. It > confirms Adam Moore as the father, and that one of Adam's parents was a > Catholic. Adam senior must have been given permission to go to Female > Factory for the baptism! > > How did you find this please? > > While the dob is coincidental for Catherine, parents don't fit! > > Thank you again > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:31 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > >> Hello Chris, not sure you you have come across this information. >> >> According to the baptism register of St Joseph's Catholic Church, >> Launceston, Adam Alexander Carr, born 22 May 1847, was baptised at the >> Launceston Female Factory on 30 May 1847. >> Parents were Charlotte Carr and Adam Moore, godmother Bridget Dignan. >> >> There is another puzzling entry, though. >> It's for a Catherine Carr, born 14 May 1845 (same date as your >> Charlotte), and baptised on 6 June 1845. >> Parents Jane Carr, and George Levi, godmother Catherine Maguire. >> I've checked the birth register on TNI, and the only things in common are >> the date of birth and the family name. >> >> Sorry to add to your puzzles! >> >> Judy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr >> 1847- Tasmania >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to >> locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at >> Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born >> 1845 and 47 respectively >> >> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka >> Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children >> in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed >> Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen >> Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >> >> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for >> Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. >> >> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) >> eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and >> asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr >> who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out >> from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >> >> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam >> Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he >> fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby >> Ellen's death. >> >> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but >> the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some >> 20 years later in Auckland. >> >> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 >> (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL >> with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port >> Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before >> on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as >> infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. >> >> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, >> Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of >> birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >> >> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy >> via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy >> at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked >> them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. >> They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I >> have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >> >> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they >> arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom >> appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 >> boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. >> >> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 >> and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would >> leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in >> foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate >> their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children >> not listed on shipping lists? >> >> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> Melbourne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Adam MOORE, died in Victoria, 1910, parents named. https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj Cannot be certain of any of the marriages for Charlotte with surname Moore. Cheers, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Hello Listers, I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris Melbourne --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Wynette, this is my gr grandfather and I commenced my search years ago after finding his death certificate. thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:32 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Adam MOORE, died in Victoria, 1910, parents named. > > https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj > > Cannot be certain of any of the marriages for Charlotte with surname > Moore. > > Cheers, > > Wynnette. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to > locate > 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their > names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 > respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka > Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children > in > Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. > This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As > she > died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for > Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) > eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked > the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died > in > Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am > seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam > Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he > fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby > Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the > application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 > years > later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 > (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL > with > their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. > Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia > Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young > children > but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, > Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of > birth > would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy > via > Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at > least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them > to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They > remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads > of information about their lives in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they > arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom > appears > to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are > my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 > and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would > leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster > care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their > deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not > listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

I think we were all so eager to help, we just pounced on any name the same. Actually, I found an Adam Moore, Drover, who died in Tasmania of Dropsy, with an age that took him back to 1847. I'll just add him to the mix :-) Just for luck...... https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-53p38j2k Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2018 11:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Hi Wynette, this is my gr grandfather and I commenced my search years ago after finding his death certificate. thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:32 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Adam MOORE, died in Victoria, 1910, parents named. > > https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj > > Cannot be certain of any of the marriages for Charlotte with surname > Moore. > > Cheers, > > Wynnette. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to > locate > 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. > Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and > 47 respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka > Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 > children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April > 1843 unnamed Kerr. > This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. > As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert > for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) > eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and > asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr > who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person > out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with > Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect > that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well > after baby Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but > the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married > some 20 years later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and > 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them > leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the > "Clarence" to Port Fairy. > Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on > "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as > infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or > Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, > drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The > year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port > Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in > Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court > appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on > electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective > deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives > in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that > they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of > whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that > these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death > certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in > 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their > parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have > been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so > can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or > father, were children not listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Wynette, the name Adam Moore is common throughout 4 generations of my family, originating from county Antrim. Adam Moore the convict 1818 was the son of Adam 1794 . Adam the convict had a son born in 1847 Tasmania- thanks to Judy's detective work in locating a baptism confirming paternity . I suspect that this boy died as there was another Adam b c 1853 Melbourne- no registration- and he died in 1910 Melbourne (my gr grandfa) leaving several children, amongst them another Adam b 1880 NZ. I may be wrong about a death of Adam 1847 and am now following up with NZ to see when an Adam Moore signed a particular document. The document relates either to a date of arrival or birth in NZ and it was signed retrospectively. It was good that listers pounced as it meant I could look at fresh data. This list has been incredibly helpful with these dilemmas and it's not over yet! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:26 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania >I think we were all so eager to help, we just pounced on any name the same. > > Actually, I found an Adam Moore, Drover, who died in Tasmania of Dropsy, > with an age that took him back to 1847. > > I'll just add him to the mix :-) Just for luck...... > > https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-53p38j2k > > Wynnette. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2018 11:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hi Wynette, this is my gr grandfather and I commenced my search years ago > after finding his death certificate. thank you Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:32 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > >> Adam MOORE, died in Victoria, 1910, parents named. >> >> https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj >> >> Cannot be certain of any of the marriages for Charlotte with surname >> Moore. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Wynnette. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam >> Carr >> 1847- Tasmania >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to >> locate >> 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. >> Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and >> 47 respectively >> >> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka >> Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 >> children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April >> 1843 unnamed Kerr. >> This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. >> As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >> >> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert >> for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these > births. >> >> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) >> eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and >> asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr >> who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person >> out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >> >> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with >> Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect >> that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well >> after baby Ellen's death. >> >> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but >> the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married >> some 20 years later in Auckland. >> >> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and >> 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them >> leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the >> "Clarence" to Port Fairy. >> Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on >> "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as >> infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or >> Victoria. >> >> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, >> drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The >> year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >> >> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port >> Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in >> Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court >> appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on >> electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective >> deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives >> in NZ. >> >> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that >> they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of >> whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that >> these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death >> certificates. >> >> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in >> 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their >> parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have >> been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so >> can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or >> father, were children not listed on shipping lists? >> >> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> Melbourne >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Chris, all of us have mysteries in our families. Even after 30 or so years of research, I still have at least three "swimmers" (i.e. don't know how they got here or when and where they are from). And some of my arrivals are born so early, no online overseas baptisms etc. are available -or if they are, like you, there are too many people with the same name to weed out who is the "one". And I cannot afford to hire a researcher...... However, patience pays off. A will finally became available in Pennsylvania, where the father actually named all his children and the paternity of my great grandfather was finally proved..... One small victory makes it all worthwhile. Cheers, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2018 9:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Hi Wynette, the name Adam Moore is common throughout 4 generations of my family, originating from county Antrim. Adam Moore the convict 1818 was the son of Adam 1794 . Adam the convict had a son born in 1847 Tasmania- thanks to Judy's detective work in locating a baptism confirming paternity . I suspect that this boy died as there was another Adam b c 1853 Melbourne- no registration- and he died in 1910 Melbourne (my gr grandfa) leaving several children, amongst them another Adam b 1880 NZ. I may be wrong about a death of Adam 1847 and am now following up with NZ to see when an Adam Moore signed a particular document. The document relates either to a date of arrival or birth in NZ and it was signed retrospectively. It was good that listers pounced as it meant I could look at fresh data. This list has been incredibly helpful with these dilemmas and it's not over yet! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:26 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania >I think we were all so eager to help, we just pounced on any name the same. ><snip> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Thank you Wynette. Patience has paid off and I'm so pleased that I asked the list for assistance. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:06 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Chris, all of us have mysteries in our families. > > Even after 30 or so years of research, I still have at least three > "swimmers" (i.e. don't know how they got here or when and where they are > from). > > And some of my arrivals are born so early, no online overseas baptisms > etc. > are available -or if they are, like you, there are too many people with > the > same name to weed out who is the "one". > > And I cannot afford to hire a researcher...... However, patience pays > off. A will finally became available in Pennsylvania, where the father > actually named all his children and the paternity of my great grandfather > was finally proved..... > > One small victory makes it all worthwhile. > > Cheers, > > Wynnette. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2018 9:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > Hi Wynette, the name Adam Moore is common throughout 4 generations of my > family, originating from county Antrim. > Adam Moore the convict 1818 was the son of Adam 1794 . Adam the convict > had > a son born in 1847 Tasmania- thanks to Judy's detective work in locating a > baptism confirming paternity . I suspect that this boy died as there was > another Adam b c 1853 Melbourne- no registration- and he died in 1910 > Melbourne (my gr grandfa) leaving several children, amongst them another > Adam b 1880 NZ. > > I may be wrong about a death of Adam 1847 and am now following up with NZ > to > see when an Adam Moore signed a particular document. The document relates > either to a date of arrival or birth in NZ and it was signed > retrospectively. > > It was good that listers pounced as it meant I could look at fresh data. > > This list has been incredibly helpful with these dilemmas and it's not > over > yet! > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graeme & Wynnette Ford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:26 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam > Carr > 1847- Tasmania > > >>I think we were all so eager to help, we just pounced on any name the >>same. >><snip> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community

Sorry, Just tried my own link and it brought up the Vic search page - and not even with Adam's name on it. Apparently it won't let me do a link to the actual page at the moment. Parents: Adam MOORE and Charlotte RICHARDSON. 1910, Reg. No: 1070 Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: Graeme & Wynnette Ford [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 9:33 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Adam MOORE, died in Victoria, 1910, parents named. https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj Cannot be certain of any of the marriages for Charlotte with surname Moore. Cheers, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Hello Listers, I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris Melbourne --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Lost track of this thread but will send this anyway. Cheers Lyn VIC Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: MOORE Given Names: Adam Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Moore Adam Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Charl RICHARDSON Age: 57 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: C Hill Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 1070

The will of this Adam Moore is available on Ancestry, probate granted 8 June 1911. According to this, he was a carpenter, and died on 5 March 1910 at Clifton Hill. His wife was named Catherine, and the son named as executor was William Albert Moore. HTH Judy -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: FW: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania Lost track of this thread but will send this anyway. Cheers Lyn VIC Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: MOORE Given Names: Adam Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Moore Adam Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Charl RICHARDSON Age: 57 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: C Hill Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 1070 _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

How nice to know this family was together. Hopefully the daughter who was both in Tasmania survived too. Brilliant find Judy I am wondering why I cancelled my Ancestry.com account after a few years! Helen Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jul 2018, at 9:42 am, Judy <[email protected]> wrote: > > The will of this Adam Moore is available on Ancestry, probate granted 8 June 1911. > According to this, he was a carpenter, and died on 5 March 1910 at Clifton Hill. His wife was named Catherine, and the son named as executor was William Albert Moore. > > HTH > > Judy > > -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: FW: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > > Lost track of this thread but will send this anyway. > Cheers > Lyn > VIC > > Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 > > Surname: MOORE > Given Names: Adam > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Moore Adam > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Charl RICHARDSON > Age: 57 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: C Hill > Year: 1910 > Reg. Number: 1070 > > > > _______________________________________________

The 1909 Electoral roll for Batman, Clifton Hil (Victoria) has an Adam (Carpenter), Catherine (DD), Annie (Tailoress) and William Albert (Iron Worker) all at 98 Ramsden St, Clifton Hill. Ancestry has the Adam and Catherine Moore buried at Boroondara Cemetery - Name: Adam Moore Death Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1853 Death Date: 5 Mar 1910 Burial Place: Victoria, Australia Cemetery: Boroondara Cemetery Area: RC D Grave Number: 196 Page: 24 Name: Catherine Moore Death Age: 76 Birth Date: abt 1851 Death Date: 28 Jan 1927 Burial Place: Victoria, Australia Cemetery: Boroondara Cemetery Area: RC D Grave Number: 196 Page: 24 This also seems to link to a NZ marriage in 1874 - Name: Adam Moore Marriage Year: 1874 Marriage Place: New Zealand Spouse: Catherine Lynch Folio Number: 62 Cheers, Peter On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:51 AM Helen Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > How nice to know this family was together. Hopefully the daughter who was > both in Tasmania survived too. Brilliant find Judy > I am wondering why I cancelled my Ancestry.com account after a few years! > Helen > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 18 Jul 2018, at 9:42 am, Judy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The will of this Adam Moore is available on Ancestry, probate granted 8 > June 1911. > > According to this, he was a carpenter, and died on 5 March 1910 at > Clifton Hill. His wife was named Catherine, and the son named as executor > was William Albert Moore. > > > > HTH > > > > Judy > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:55 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: FW: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother > Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > > > > Lost track of this thread but will send this anyway. > > Cheers > > Lyn > > VIC > > > > Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 > > > > Surname: MOORE > > Given Names: Adam > > Event: D > > Sex: > > Spouse Surname/Father: Moore Adam > > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Charl RICHARDSON > > Age: 57 > > Age Code: > > Birth Place: > > Death Place: C Hill > > Year: 1910 > > Reg. Number: 1070 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >