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    1. [AUS-Tas] Catherine Kearney

    3. Dear Lists, having written my book "Catherine Kearney Dairy Farmer, Hobart Town 1808-1830" in 2006, I am now confronted with a story written in Convict Stories - Valley Voice - 3 claiming that Catherine had a daughter after she arrived in VDL, in 1818. (she would have been 49 years old) This daughter's name is supposed to be Caroline Catherine Kearney, she later married Charles Alford (a convict) on 2 November 1839 at Avoca. I did not come across any mention of a daughter while researching for the book. There is no baptism or birth (unless I missed it) In Catherine's will she only mentions her two sons and her grandson. I have searched through all that I can, if anyone can shed some life on this I would be very grateful. I am also will to add this information to my book if it can be proved. In the above article the name of my book is mentioned as a reference and most of what I have written about Catherine is in the story. Regards Irene --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    06/27/2018 11:41:36
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney
    2. Elaine Hanford

    3. Irene,Found the following death register data & children for Caroline Catherine (Kearney) Alford: Caroline Catherine AlfordBirth Year: abt 1824Age: 75Death Date: 07 Sep 1899Death Place: TasmaniaMother's name: CharlesRegistration Year: 1899Registration Place: Fingal, TasmaniaRegistration Number: 246 Mary Ann Alford -- Birth Date: 29 Jul 1865 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #476M Alford -- Birth Date: 28 May 1862    Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #466 Lucy Flor Adelaide Alford -- Tasmania 19 Feb 1860 -- Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #984 Elizabeth Sophia Alford -- Birth Date: 3 Aug 1855 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #289 Francis Alford -- Birth 8 Aug 1853 - Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #190 George Frederick Alford -- Birth Date: 2 Aug 1851 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #177 Emily Jane Alford    --    Birth Date: 4 Feb 1848 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #1282 Henry John Alford    -- Birth Date: 3 Jan 1846 -- Registration Place: Avoca, Tasmania, Australia #1247 M Alford -- Birth 4 Feb 1842 -- registration:  1842 Avoca, Tasmania, Australia #1165 Marriage:Kearney, Catharine -- Female Age:  21Alford, Charles  --  Male Age:  31Date of marriage:02 Nov 1839 -- Registered:  Avoca -- Resource:  RGD37/1/1 no 472 I could find no indexed record for a Charles Alford as convict.  There is a Charles Alford listed 1839 from Campbell-town  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4158658 Charles is listed in the 1843 Fingal census as a farmer - Free. His death:  https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150324544 His arrival:  Alford, Charles -- also listed in https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8645503Arrival date:  28 Dec 1830Departure port:  LondonShip:  ResourceRecord ID:  NAME_INDEXES:398948  -- Resource:  CUS30/1/1 P29 Given that Caroline Catherine Kearney listed her age as 21 at marriage, it is possible that she "fudged" her age to get married.  Her death data would suggest she was born in 1824....which would be more consistent with her still bearing children in 1865. I regret that none of this directly addresses your concerns....but I could not find any reference that listed the parents of CC Kearney. cheers,  Elaine - TAS Descendant in Reno, NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show original message On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:42 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Lists, having written my book "Catherine Kearney Dairy Farmer, Hobart Town 1808-1830" in 2006, I am now confronted with a story written in Convict Stories - Valley Voice - 3 claiming that Catherine had a daughter after she arrived in VDL, in 1818. (she would have been 49 years old) This daughter's name is supposed to be Caroline Catherine Kearney, she later married Charles Alford (a convict) on 2 November 1839 at Avoca. I did not come across any mention of a daughter while researching for the book. There is no baptism or birth (unless I missed it) In Catherine's will she only mentions her two sons and her grandson.  I have searched through all that I can, if anyone can shed some life on this I would be very grateful.  I am also will to add this information to my book if it can be proved.  In the above article the name of my book is mentioned as a reference and most of what I have written about Catherine is in the story. Regards Irene

    06/28/2018 08:46:50
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney
    2. Chris

    3. Elaine..Hope you don't mind my contacting you directly. I just love your research and the amount of effort you put in to assist others. I learn all the time. Thank you Chris. Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Hanford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:46 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney > Irene,Found the following death register data & children for Caroline > Catherine (Kearney) Alford: > Caroline Catherine AlfordBirth Year: abt 1824Age: 75Death Date: 07 Sep > 1899Death Place: TasmaniaMother's name: CharlesRegistration Year: > 1899Registration Place: Fingal, TasmaniaRegistration Number: 246 > Mary Ann Alford -- Birth Date: 29 Jul 1865 -- Registration Place: Fingal, > Tasmania, Australia #476M Alford -- Birth Date: 28 May 1862 Registration > Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #466 > Lucy Flor Adelaide Alford -- Tasmania 19 Feb 1860 -- Fingal, Tasmania, > Australia #984 > Elizabeth Sophia Alford -- Birth Date: 3 Aug 1855 -- Registration Place: > Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #289 > Francis Alford -- Birth 8 Aug 1853 - Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #190 > George Frederick Alford -- Birth Date: 2 Aug 1851 -- Registration Place: > Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #177 > Emily Jane Alford -- Birth Date: 4 Feb 1848 -- Registration Place: Fingal, > Tasmania, Australia #1282 > Henry John Alford -- Birth Date: 3 Jan 1846 -- Registration Place: Avoca, > Tasmania, Australia #1247 > M Alford -- Birth 4 Feb 1842 -- registration: 1842 Avoca, Tasmania, > Australia #1165 > > Marriage:Kearney, Catharine -- Female Age: 21Alford, Charles -- Male Age: > 31Date of marriage:02 Nov 1839 -- Registered: Avoca -- Resource: RGD37/1/1 > no 472 > I could find no indexed record for a Charles Alford as convict. There is a > Charles Alford listed 1839 from Campbell-town > https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4158658 > Charles is listed in the 1843 Fingal census as a farmer - Free. > His death: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150324544 > His arrival: Alford, Charles -- also listed in > https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8645503Arrival date: 28 Dec > 1830Departure port: LondonShip: ResourceRecord ID: NAME_INDEXES:398948 -- > Resource: CUS30/1/1 P29 > Given that Caroline Catherine Kearney listed her age as 21 at marriage, it > is possible that she "fudged" her age to get married. Her death data would > suggest she was born in 1824....which would be more consistent with her > still bearing children in 1865. > I regret that none of this directly addresses your concerns....but I could > not find any reference that listed the parents of CC Kearney. > cheers, Elaine - TAS Descendant in Reno, NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show original message On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:42 PM, "[email protected]" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Lists, having written my book "Catherine Kearney Dairy Farmer, Hobart > Town 1808-1830" in 2006, I am now confronted with a story written in > Convict > Stories - Valley Voice - 3 > > claiming that Catherine had a daughter after she arrived in VDL, in 1818. > (she would have been 49 years old) This daughter's name is supposed to be > Caroline Catherine Kearney, she later married Charles Alford (a convict) > on > 2 November 1839 at Avoca. I did not come across any mention of a daughter > while researching for the book. There is no baptism or birth (unless I > missed it) In Catherine's will she only mentions her two sons and her > grandson. I have searched through all that I can, if anyone can shed some > life on this I would be very grateful. I am also will to add this > information to my book if it can be proved. In the above article the name > of my book is mentioned as a reference and most of what I have written > about > Catherine is in the story. > Regards > Irene > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    06/28/2018 10:49:39
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney

    3. Thank you so much for your time Eline, I had a good look on Linc and its good to have conformation on what I had found. The trouble is when this type of thing is done it gets printed and there is not much you can do about it. My name is at the bottom of the article in Convict Stories Valley Voice 3 and it was my story and research that was used to write that article. I do not think the Catherine Kearney in my book ever had a daughter, for one thing she was too old and knowing Catherine (after researching her) she would not have cared if she had who the father was, she would have acknowledged her. She did not mention a daughter in her will and I never found anything about a child. I would also like to thank all those listers who sent me emails. Regards Irene -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Hanford <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 29 June 2018 12:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney Irene,Found the following death register data & children for Caroline Catherine (Kearney) Alford: Caroline Catherine AlfordBirth Year: abt 1824Age: 75Death Date: 07 Sep 1899Death Place: TasmaniaMother's name: CharlesRegistration Year: 1899Registration Place: Fingal, TasmaniaRegistration Number: 246 Mary Ann Alford -- Birth Date: 29 Jul 1865 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #476M Alford -- Birth Date: 28 May 1862 Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #466 Lucy Flor Adelaide Alford -- Tasmania 19 Feb 1860 -- Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #984 Elizabeth Sophia Alford -- Birth Date: 3 Aug 1855 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #289 Francis Alford -- Birth 8 Aug 1853 - Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #190 George Frederick Alford -- Birth Date: 2 Aug 1851 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #177 Emily Jane Alford -- Birth Date: 4 Feb 1848 -- Registration Place: Fingal, Tasmania, Australia #1282 Henry John Alford -- Birth Date: 3 Jan 1846 -- Registration Place: Avoca, Tasmania, Australia #1247 M Alford -- Birth 4 Feb 1842 -- registration: 1842 Avoca, Tasmania, Australia #1165 Marriage:Kearney, Catharine -- Female Age: 21Alford, Charles -- Male Age: 31Date of marriage:02 Nov 1839 -- Registered: Avoca -- Resource: RGD37/1/1 no 472 I could find no indexed record for a Charles Alford as convict. There is a Charles Alford listed 1839 from Campbell-town https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4158658 Charles is listed in the 1843 Fingal census as a farmer - Free. His death: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/150324544 His arrival: Alford, Charles -- also listed in https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8645503Arrival date: 28 Dec 1830Departure port: LondonShip: ResourceRecord ID: NAME_INDEXES:398948 -- Resource: CUS30/1/1 P29 Given that Caroline Catherine Kearney listed her age as 21 at marriage, it is possible that she "fudged" her age to get married. Her death data would suggest she was born in 1824....which would be more consistent with her still bearing children in 1865. I regret that none of this directly addresses your concerns....but I could not find any reference that listed the parents of CC Kearney. cheers, Elaine - TAS Descendant in Reno, NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show original message On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:42 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Lists, having written my book "Catherine Kearney Dairy Farmer, Hobart Town 1808-1830" in 2006, I am now confronted with a story written in Convict Stories - Valley Voice - 3 claiming that Catherine had a daughter after she arrived in VDL, in 1818. (she would have been 49 years old) This daughter's name is supposed to be Caroline Catherine Kearney, she later married Charles Alford (a convict) on 2 November 1839 at Avoca. I did not come across any mention of a daughter while researching for the book. There is no baptism or birth (unless I missed it) In Catherine's will she only mentions her two sons and her grandson. I have searched through all that I can, if anyone can shed some life on this I would be very grateful. I am also will to add this information to my book if it can be proved. In the above article the name of my book is mentioned as a reference and most of what I have written about Catherine is in the story. Regards Irene _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    07/01/2018 06:02:44
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Catherine Kearney
    2. Susanne Weston

    3. Hi Irene, I have a connection with Catherine Kearney through her her grand daughter Susan Kearney who married Henry Newnham. During all my research I haven’t come across any association with a Caroline Catherine Kearney. Regards Susanne Sent from my iPad > On 28 Jun 2018, at 3:41 pm, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Lists, having written my book "Catherine Kearney Dairy Farmer, Hobart > Town 1808-1830" in 2006, I am now confronted with a story written in Convict > Stories - Valley Voice - 3 > > claiming that Catherine had a daughter after she arrived in VDL, in 1818. > (she would have been 49 years old) This daughter's name is supposed to be > Caroline Catherine Kearney, she later married Charles Alford (a convict) on > 2 November 1839 at Avoca. I did not come across any mention of a daughter > while researching for the book. There is no baptism or birth (unless I > missed it) In Catherine's will she only mentions her two sons and her > grandson. I have searched through all that I can, if anyone can shed some > life on this I would be very grateful. I am also will to add this > information to my book if it can be proved. In the above article the name > of my book is mentioned as a reference and most of what I have written about > Catherine is in the story. > > > > Regards > > > > Irene > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/28/2018 03:33:09