I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 who married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland on 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation of the marriage. Could some kind lister help me. Thanks. Ian Turnbull

Hi Ian, Here’s Henry’s marriage announcement. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169411 Cheers Catherine On 4 Jun 2018, at 11:48 pm, Ian Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 who married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland on 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia. I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation of the marriage. Could some kind lister help me. Thanks.

Hi Ian, It appears most of the later Kettle story took place in Victoria after Henry and Marion moved there in 1838. There is an article in the" Mercury', 23 Dec 1922 page 13 that is a recap from the Melbourne 'Argus' talking about Henry Kettle Jr and his life there. The first part of the article states - MR. HENRY KETTLE. MELBOURNE'S ELDEST SON. There can be very few, if any, who could dispute the claim of Mr Henry Kettle of Gisborne to be Melbourne's eldest surviving son (says the Mel - bourne "Argus". His parents, who were married in Hobart Town in 1837, arrived in Melbourne early in 1838 where they lived in what was then a quiet spot in the city, in Swanston-street, close to the Flinders-Lane corner. Mr. Kettle, sen- ior, was a plumber by trade, and com- menced in business in Collins-street, where he opened a shop on the south side close to Swanston-street. It is rather difficult at the present day to imagine a plumber's shop on the block, even though it be on the south side . An cxtract from the family Bible shows "Henry Kettle, son of Henry Kettle in the county of Bourke, New South Wales (born on the 11th day of July, 1838) was baptised by me on the 29th day of July, 1838. William Water field, Protestant presenting minister. It goes on to say that Henry Kettle Sr died in 1842 ( an article in a Melbourne newspaper from 1930 states exact date was 26 July 1842) and the younger Henry was bought up by his grandfather, William Robertson. His mother Marion remarried in 1843 to George Jeffries Stokes. She died in 1858. There may have been some toing and froing between Victoria and VDL between 1838 and 1842. There are a number of references to Mr H Kettle and Mrs Kettle and sister in newspapers on different ship passenger lists in that period. Henry Kettle Senior also seemed prominent in the founding of the Congregational Church in both Tasmania and Victoria. This article talks about the development of Congregationalism in Tasmania and mentions John Nisbet who married Henry and Marion in 1837- http://www.utas.edu.au/library/companion_to_tasmanian_history/C/ Congregationalism.htm The earliest register for a Congregational marriage in Hobart is listed under Davey Street but it seems coincidental that the first entry is the 3 October 1837? the same as Henry and Marion Kettles marriage notice in the paper - Congregational Union of Tasmania (NG586) Davey Street Marriage Register 3 Oct 1837 - 24 Dec 1895 NS663/1/1 Z2234 (this is the microfilm no. in the Microspace at LINC Hobart) Perhaps the earliest marriage records for Collins St were entered or merged with Davey St? Hope that gives you some bones to hang more flesh on... Cheers, Peter On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Catherine Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Here’s Henry’s marriage announcement. > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169411 > > Cheers > > Catherine > > On 4 Jun 2018, at 11:48 pm, Ian Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 who > married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland > on > 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, > Australia. > > > > I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation > of > the marriage. > > > > Could some kind lister help me. > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Peter Thank you so much for your work below. I do have the article which I only found earlier today. Although Henry Kettle snr is not my ancestor, Marion, his wife, is my gg grandmother along with her second husband George Jeffries Stokes. The little that I have been able to find out about him amazes me. He was quite an achiever and commanded much respect for one so young. This is what is driving me to find out more about him including his origins - dob, place of birth and parents. I was also surprised to learn that he was a sponsored immigrant who travelled in steerage. He died at 35 but I have not found what caused his death. He was a Juror in Melbourne only weeks before his death. He left quite a substantial estate for one so young. I am also curious to know was he alone in Australia or did other siblings also come out. There is also the question of whether he and Marion went to Melbourne and then encouraged William Robertson (his father-in-law) and family to follow or if it was the other way around. They both lived in Collins Street Melbourne. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Peter Oakley <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Henry Kettle/Marion Robertson Hi Ian, It appears most of the later Kettle story took place in Victoria after Henry and Marion moved there in 1838. There is an article in the" Mercury', 23 Dec 1922 page 13 that is a recap from the Melbourne 'Argus' talking about Henry Kettle Jr and his life there. The first part of the article states - MR. HENRY KETTLE. MELBOURNE'S ELDEST SON. There can be very few, if any, who could dispute the claim of Mr Henry Kettle of Gisborne to be Melbourne's eldest surviving son (says the Mel - bourne "Argus". His parents, who were married in Hobart Town in 1837, arrived in Melbourne early in 1838 where they lived in what was then a quiet spot in the city, in Swanston-street, close to the Flinders-Lane corner. Mr. Kettle, sen- ior, was a plumber by trade, and com- menced in business in Collins-street, where he opened a shop on the south side close to Swanston-street. It is rather difficult at the present day to imagine a plumber's shop on the block, even though it be on the south side . An cxtract from the family Bible shows "Henry Kettle, son of Henry Kettle in the county of Bourke, New South Wales (born on the 11th day of July, 1838) was baptised by me on the 29th day of July, 1838. William Water field, Protestant presenting minister. It goes on to say that Henry Kettle Sr died in 1842 ( an article in a Melbourne newspaper from 1930 states exact date was 26 July 1842) and the younger Henry was bought up by his grandfather, William Robertson. His mother Marion remarried in 1843 to George Jeffries Stokes. She died in 1858. There may have been some toing and froing between Victoria and VDL between 1838 and 1842. There are a number of references to Mr H Kettle and Mrs Kettle and sister in newspapers on different ship passenger lists in that period. Henry Kettle Senior also seemed prominent in the founding of the Congregational Church in both Tasmania and Victoria. This article talks about the development of Congregationalism in Tasmania and mentions John Nisbet who married Henry and Marion in 1837- http://www.utas.edu.au/library/companion_to_tasmanian_history/C/Congregationalism.htm The earliest register for a Congregational marriage in Hobart is listed under Davey Street but it seems coincidental that the first entry is the 3 October 1837? the same as Henry and Marion Kettles marriage notice in the paper - Congregational Union of Tasmania (NG586) Davey Street Marriage Register 3 Oct 1837 - 24 Dec 1895 NS663/1/1 Z2234 (this is the microfilm no. in the Microspace at LINC Hobart) Perhaps the earliest marriage records for Collins St were entered or merged with Davey St? Hope that gives you some bones to hang more flesh on... Cheers, Peter On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Catherine Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Here’s Henry’s marriage announcement. > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169411 > > Cheers > > Catherine > > On 4 Jun 2018, at 11:48 pm, Ian Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 who > married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland > on > 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, > Australia. > > > > I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation > of > the marriage. > > > > Could some kind lister help me. > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Ian, I skimmed some stuff on the Robertsons but weren't they a big presence in VDL in the early 1820's. Did brothers come out from Scotland and take up a fair sized grant? There was also something in an article I read in one of the Victorian newspapers. It had something to do with the Robertsons and the ship "Thomas". It caught afire and they had to remain at Port Phillip..?? Damned if I can find the article but I think it had something to do with the surname Bertram? Reminiscences of old colonist or something... Cheers, Peter On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Ian Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Peter > > Thank you so much for your work below. > > I do have the article which I only found earlier today. > > Although Henry Kettle snr is not my ancestor, Marion, his wife, is my gg > grandmother along with her second husband George Jeffries Stokes. > > The little that I have been able to find out about him amazes me. He was > quite an achiever and commanded much respect for one so young. This is what > is driving me to find out more about him including his origins - dob, place > of birth and parents. I was also surprised to learn that he was a sponsored > immigrant who travelled in steerage. He died at 35 but I have not found > what caused his death. He was a Juror in Melbourne only weeks before his > death. He left quite a substantial estate for one so young. I am also > curious to know was he alone in Australia or did other siblings also come > out. > > There is also the question of whether he and Marion went to Melbourne and > then encouraged William Robertson (his father-in-law) and family to follow > or if it was the other way around. They both lived in Collins Street > Melbourne. > > Ian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Oakley <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 5:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Henry Kettle/Marion Robertson > > Hi Ian, > > It appears most of the later Kettle story took place in Victoria after > Henry and Marion moved there in 1838. There is an article in the" Mercury', > 23 Dec 1922 page 13 that is a recap from the Melbourne 'Argus' talking > about Henry Kettle Jr and his life there. The first part of the article > states - > > MR. HENRY KETTLE. > MELBOURNE'S ELDEST SON. > There can be very few, if any, who > could dispute the claim of Mr Henry > Kettle of Gisborne to be Melbourne's > eldest surviving son (says the Mel - > bourne "Argus". His parents, who were > married in Hobart Town in 1837, arrived > in Melbourne early in 1838 where they > lived in what was then a quiet spot in > the city, in Swanston-street, close to the > Flinders-Lane corner. Mr. Kettle, sen- > ior, was a plumber by trade, and com- > menced in business in Collins-street, > where he opened a shop on the south > side close to Swanston-street. It is > rather difficult at the present day to > imagine a plumber's shop on the block, > even though it be on the south side . > An cxtract from the family Bible > shows "Henry Kettle, son of Henry > Kettle in the county of Bourke, New > South Wales (born on the 11th day of > July, 1838) was baptised by me on the > 29th day of July, 1838. William Water > field, Protestant presenting minister. > It goes on to say that Henry Kettle Sr died in 1842 ( an article in a > Melbourne newspaper from 1930 states exact date was 26 July 1842) and the > younger Henry was bought up by his grandfather, William Robertson. His > mother Marion remarried in 1843 to George Jeffries Stokes. She died in > 1858. > > There may have been some toing and froing between Victoria and VDL between > 1838 and 1842. There are a number of references to Mr H Kettle and Mrs > Kettle and sister in newspapers on different ship passenger lists in that > period. Henry Kettle Senior also seemed prominent in the founding of the > Congregational Church in both Tasmania and Victoria. This article talks > about the development of Congregationalism in Tasmania and mentions John > Nisbet who married Henry and Marion in 1837- > > http://www.utas.edu.au/library/companion_to_tasmanian_history/C/ > Congregationalism.htm > > The earliest register for a Congregational marriage in Hobart is listed > under Davey Street but it seems coincidental that the first entry is the 3 > October 1837? the same as Henry and Marion Kettles marriage notice in the > paper - > > Congregational Union of Tasmania (NG586) > > Davey Street > > Marriage Register 3 Oct 1837 - 24 Dec 1895 NS663/1/1 Z2234 (this is the > microfilm no. in the Microspace at LINC Hobart) > Perhaps the earliest marriage records for Collins St were entered or merged > with Davey St? > > Hope that gives you some bones to hang more flesh on... > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Catherine Hamilton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Ian, > > > > Here’s Henry’s marriage announcement. > > > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169411 > > > > Cheers > > > > Catherine > > > > On 4 Jun 2018, at 11:48 pm, Ian Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 > who > > married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland > > on > > 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, > > Australia. > > > > > > > > I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation > > of > > the marriage. > > > > > > > > Could some kind lister help me. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > > [email protected]/ > > > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > > [email protected]/ > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Peter You have to be careful as there were two William Robertsons in Hobart Town in the 1830s. You are right about the ship “Thomas” and it did catch alight and sink. They were headed for Sydney but decided to stay and he had a shop in Elizabeth Street. If you are interested in reading further go to the blog site at http://williamrobertsonwooling.blogspot.com . William Robertson went on to become a prominent citizen of Victoria and settled at Mount Macedon. I also have an early connection through Benjamin Travers Solly (his wife was the sister of my gg grandmother Margaret Watts) – see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Solly-142 whose daughter Jane married Thomas Bather Moore. Ian From: Peter Oakley <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 8:27 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Re: Henry Kettle/Marion Robertson Hi Ian, I skimmed some stuff on the Robertsons but weren't they a big presence in VDL in the early 1820's. Did brothers come out from Scotland and take up a fair sized grant? There was also something in an article I read in one of the Victorian newspapers. It had something to do with the Robertsons and the ship "Thomas". It caught afire and they had to remain at Port Phillip..?? Damned if I can find the article but I think it had something to do with the surname Bertram? Reminiscences of old colonist or something... Cheers, Peter On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Ian Turnbull <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Hi Peter Thank you so much for your work below. I do have the article which I only found earlier today. Although Henry Kettle snr is not my ancestor, Marion, his wife, is my gg grandmother along with her second husband George Jeffries Stokes. The little that I have been able to find out about him amazes me. He was quite an achiever and commanded much respect for one so young. This is what is driving me to find out more about him including his origins - dob, place of birth and parents. I was also surprised to learn that he was a sponsored immigrant who travelled in steerage. He died at 35 but I have not found what caused his death. He was a Juror in Melbourne only weeks before his death. He left quite a substantial estate for one so young. I am also curious to know was he alone in Australia or did other siblings also come out. There is also the question of whether he and Marion went to Melbourne and then encouraged William Robertson (his father-in-law) and family to follow or if it was the other way around. They both lived in Collins Street Melbourne. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Peter Oakley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 5:31 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Henry Kettle/Marion Robertson Hi Ian, It appears most of the later Kettle story took place in Victoria after Henry and Marion moved there in 1838. There is an article in the" Mercury', 23 Dec 1922 page 13 that is a recap from the Melbourne 'Argus' talking about Henry Kettle Jr and his life there. The first part of the article states - MR. HENRY KETTLE. MELBOURNE'S ELDEST SON. There can be very few, if any, who could dispute the claim of Mr Henry Kettle of Gisborne to be Melbourne's eldest surviving son (says the Mel - bourne "Argus". His parents, who were married in Hobart Town in 1837, arrived in Melbourne early in 1838 where they lived in what was then a quiet spot in the city, in Swanston-street, close to the Flinders-Lane corner. Mr. Kettle, sen- ior, was a plumber by trade, and com- menced in business in Collins-street, where he opened a shop on the south side close to Swanston-street. It is rather difficult at the present day to imagine a plumber's shop on the block, even though it be on the south side . An cxtract from the family Bible shows "Henry Kettle, son of Henry Kettle in the county of Bourke, New South Wales (born on the 11th day of July, 1838) was baptised by me on the 29th day of July, 1838. William Water field, Protestant presenting minister. It goes on to say that Henry Kettle Sr died in 1842 ( an article in a Melbourne newspaper from 1930 states exact date was 26 July 1842) and the younger Henry was bought up by his grandfather, William Robertson. His mother Marion remarried in 1843 to George Jeffries Stokes. She died in 1858. There may have been some toing and froing between Victoria and VDL between 1838 and 1842. There are a number of references to Mr H Kettle and Mrs Kettle and sister in newspapers on different ship passenger lists in that period. Henry Kettle Senior also seemed prominent in the founding of the Congregational Church in both Tasmania and Victoria. This article talks about the development of Congregationalism in Tasmania and mentions John Nisbet who married Henry and Marion in 1837- http://www.utas.edu.au/library/companion_to_tasmanian_history/C/Congregationalism.htm The earliest register for a Congregational marriage in Hobart is listed under Davey Street but it seems coincidental that the first entry is the 3 October 1837? the same as Henry and Marion Kettles marriage notice in the paper - Congregational Union of Tasmania (NG586) Davey Street Marriage Register 3 Oct 1837 - 24 Dec 1895 NS663/1/1 Z2234 (this is the microfilm no. in the Microspace at LINC Hobart) Perhaps the earliest marriage records for Collins St were entered or merged with Davey St? Hope that gives you some bones to hang more flesh on... Cheers, Peter On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Catherine Hamilton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Here’s Henry’s marriage announcement. > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4169411 > > Cheers > > Catherine > > On 4 Jun 2018, at 11:48 pm, Ian Turnbull <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am trying to find the birth date and place of Henry Kettle b abt 1812 who > married Marion Robertson b 29 Mar 1821 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland > on > 3 Oct 1837 at Independent Chapel, Collins Street, Hobart, Tasmania, > Australia. > > > > I have been unable to find Henry's arrival in Hobart or even confirmation > of > the marriage. > > > > Could some kind lister help me. > > > > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ <http://[email protected]/> > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ <http://[email protected]/> > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community