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    1. [AUS-Tas] Origins of ELEANOR GREGORY in "Exiled Three Times Over."
    2. Carol Brill via
    3. Dear All, I've been hunting for ages for the origin of the JOHN GREGORY who married Ann Elizabeth Briscoe in April 1837 in the Richmond district. His oldest daughter Sarah, (named after Ann Elizabeth's mother, born Sarah Goodwin) married John Frederick LONGEY, in May 1867. I knew for years that John Longey was the son of Eleanor Gregory and Frederick Longey. I had thought that was just an interesting coincidence, until very recently, when I fortuitously found the marriage of Frederick Longey and Eleanor Gregory on the same page as William Bunster's 1829 marriage, when I was looking them up online. Surprise surprise, a witness at Eleanor's wedding was none other than a John Gregory, possibly Eleanor's brother, thus making Sarah Gregory and John Frederick Longey first cousins. When I googled for the name, Eleanor Gregory, I found that she was mentioned in Irene's book "Exiled Three Times Over." And I can't find my copy of the book anywhere! I rang a friend who has the book and who told me that Thomas Fowles was caring for Eleanor at some stage, and was also caring for several orphans, presumably the children of Thomas Gregory, who had arrived in VDL on the Estramina from N.I. in 1809(?)with an un-named woman, and an un-named child. Thomas Gregory was the father of this Elizabeth Gregory (who married Edward Fisher), and who came to VDL from N.I., as well as other children from Thomas' marriage. Their mother Sarah died in 1807, so possibly her widower Thomas fathered more children with this un-named woman. I realise this is a poor explanation of what I suspect might be the key to Eleanor and John Gregorys' backgrounds - and I wish that Garry W. was still around to add his precious insight into this conundrum, but basically I suspect their origins lie way back on N.I. If my hunch is correct, it would mean that the Gregorys (John and an older-born-on-Norfolk-Island-Eleanor) lived with Thomas Fowles next door but one from the Goodwins'property on Drougthy Point after they arrived in VDL, grew up with them, and would have attended the same school in Clarence! If anyone could send me the material in Irene's book re. Eleanor and Thomas Fowles, with references, I'd be very grateful. Anything more would be just brilliant, and, for those kind souls who find my page in Heaven and Hell Together on John Gregory and Ann Elizabeth Briscoe, it's now to be changed, as I never felt terribly happy with the John Gregory I have listed there on our website as Ann's husband. Best wishes, Carol Brill.

    09/12/2014 11:05:45