Hi Karen, I've only been able to access hard copy versions of the Rolls at LINC Hobart (the old State Reference Library) I understand that a couple of stray volumes are available to view (1858 I think ) on a couple of website but you have to subscribe to them. Some also appear in the Tasmanian Govt. Gazettes which have gone online but again I don't know how comprehensive they are. I've heard a little birdie rumour that TAHO and the Hobart City Council will be joining forces to digitise the known Valuation Rolls available but how far down the track that will be I cannot estimate. Cheers, Peter On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Karen Dunham <karen.dunham@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi again, Peter, > > > > The Valuation Rolls are a valuable resource. How do you access them? Are > they online or elsewhere? > > > > Karen > > > > *From:* Peter Oakley [mailto:pete.j.oakley@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 September 2014 7:11 PM > *To:* Great Bedwyn > *Cc:* Karen Dunham; AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com > *Subject:* Re: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > > > Hi Karen, > > > > Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving > Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who > were living in address' Bates had vacated. > > > > > > Year > > No. > > Street > > Occupant > > Owner > > Value (pounds) > > Property Type > > 1860 > > 126 > > Melville St > > James Bates > > Martin McLoughlin > > 7 > > House > > 1865 > > 126 > > Melville St > > Richard Patterson > > Robert Worley > > 7 > > House & Garden > > 1865 > > 124 > > Melville St > > William Kelly > > Robert Worley > > 7 > > House & Garden > > 1867 > > 124 > > Melville St > > James Bates > > Robert Worley > > 10 > > Dwelling House & Land > > 1872 > > 126 > > Melville St > > Empty > > George Watson > > 7 > > House & Land > > 1872 > > 138 > > Bathurst St > > James Bates > > Henry Marshall, Hill St > > 12 > > Dwelling House > > 1874 > > 138 > > Bathurst St > > Samuel Ball > > Henry Marshall, Hill St > > 12 > > Dwelling House > > Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place > of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The > undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? > > > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Peter > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Karen > > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late 1800s > to > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of changes > in > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every > dwelling was affected. > > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation > Roll > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the street > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in time > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then keep > tracing forward under different owners. > > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. > > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you can > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see if > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to > the > current building. > > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History Society > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the time. > > Regards > > Malcolm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham via > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > Hi all, > > > > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers of > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville St. > (But maybe not the same house?) > > > > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways to > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? > > > > Karen Dunham > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >