HI Just wondered if some one might be able to tell me what year the valuation rolls go back to Thank you Mabel On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving > Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who > were living in address' Bates had vacated. > > > YearNo.StreetOccupantOwnerValue > (pounds)Property Type1860126Melville StJames Bates Martin McLoughlin > 7House1865126Melville StRichard Patterson Robert Worley 7House > & Garden1865124Melville StWilliam Kelly Robert Worley 7House & > Garden1867124Melville StJames Bates Robert Worley 10Dwelling > House & Land1872126Melville StEmpty George Watson 7House & > Land > 1872138Bathurst StJames BatesHenry Marshall, Hill St 12Dwelling > House1874138Bathurst StSamuel BallHenry Marshall, Hill St 12 > > Dwelling House > Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place > of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The > undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > Hi Karen > > > > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late 1800s > > to > > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of changes > > in > > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every > > dwelling was affected. > > > > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may > > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation > > Roll > > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the > street > > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in > time > > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then > keep > > tracing forward under different owners. > > > > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. > > > > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show > > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you > can > > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see > if > > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to > > the > > current building. > > > > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History > Society > > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the > time. > > > > Regards > > > > Malcolm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham via > > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM > > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers of > > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died > > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville > St. > > (But maybe not the same house?) > > > > > > > > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways > to > > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? > > > > > > > > Karen Dunham > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mabel, The earliest I've accessed in hard copy at LINCs Hobart is 1858. There appear to be some earlier ones but they just deal with Hobart.... http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?q=valuation&avail=Reference&topic=Valuation&i=6&id=885157 Cheers, Peter On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Mabel Harvey <mabel.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: > HI > > Just wondered if some one might be able to tell me what year the valuation > rolls go back to > > Thank you > Mabel > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Oakley via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hi Karen, >> >> Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving >> Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who >> were living in address' Bates had vacated. >> >> >> YearNo.StreetOccupantOwnerValue >> (pounds)Property Type1860126Melville StJames Bates Martin McLoughlin >> 7House1865126Melville StRichard Patterson Robert Worley 7House >> & Garden1865124Melville StWilliam Kelly Robert Worley 7House & >> Garden1867124Melville StJames Bates Robert Worley 10Dwelling >> House & Land1872126Melville StEmpty George Watson 7House & >> Land >> 1872138Bathurst StJames BatesHenry Marshall, Hill St 12Dwelling >> House1874138Bathurst StSamuel BallHenry Marshall, Hill St 12 >> >> >> Dwelling House >> Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place >> of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The >> undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < >> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> > wrote: >> >> > Hi Karen >> > >> > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late >> 1800s >> > to >> > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of >> changes >> > in >> > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every >> > dwelling was affected. >> > >> > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may >> > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation >> > Roll >> > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the >> street >> > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in >> time >> > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then >> keep >> > tracing forward under different owners. >> > >> > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. >> > >> > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show >> > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you >> can >> > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see >> if >> > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to >> > the >> > current building. >> > >> > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History >> Society >> > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the >> time. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Malcolm >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham >> via >> > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM >> > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > >> > >> > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers >> of >> > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died >> > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville >> St. >> > (But maybe not the same house?) >> > >> > >> > >> > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways >> to >> > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? >> > >> > >> > >> > Karen Dunham >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type >> > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >