Reply to message 7. Hi there, always interested to hear about any research in Hobart with the name Clark, Clarke or James. My ancestor, Edith Clark or James, born Hobart probably 1870s. Used either name at different times on documents. Possible connection to an orphaned child in the Benevolent Asylum Sydney sent to Hobart - also a sister Fanny. More information available if this rings any bells. Thanks, Jennifer Jennifer *If I don't get back to you when you are expecting me to, please feel free to email me again. Life gets hectic sometimes and I really do want to stay in touch! * On 12 June 2014 09:17, <aus-tasmania-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Information Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The Cox family of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England (Edie) > 2. John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma Terry > (narnty) > 3. Family Search records (Catherine Hamilton) > 4. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma > Terry (Peter Oakley) > 5. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma > Terry (Peter Oakley) > 6. This might be a little off topic BUT (Robin Walker) > 7. Ann Clark death Hobart 1846 (Peter Oakley) > 8. Re: This might be a little off topic BUT (Dawn Webb) > 9. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma > Terry (Gene Bear) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:34:52 +1000 > From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] The Cox family of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, > England > To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EF6181CAABE440DFBF2576706DEB42DF@user633a122f89> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi > For those of you like me who are researching the family of John Cox and Ann > Brooks. I stumbled upon Andrew Cox website > www.hanslopecox.org.uk it has the family from 1500 to late 1700. Our line > is there and it gives the baptism and 2 marriges of Johns parents Samuel > and > Susanna Parks. Johns siblings. Andrews work is from original parish > registers etc. > > May be useful to someone researching this family of Cox who first arrived > in > Port Jackson 1792 aboard the Indiaman "Pitt", then went to Norfolk island > c1804 and then were transferred to Van Diemns land in 1813 aboard the lady > Nelson. > Edie McArthur > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:54:00 +1000 > From: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, > Emma Terry > To: "AUS-Tasmania" <AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY176-DS13EE91DF9CA2A97CE23342F12E0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > I am looking for a little bit of information if anyone is attached to any > of the above people. > > Frances Crew was a convict, arr. per Lady of the Lake, 1829. > She married Thomas Terry in Hobart in 1834, and he died in Launceston in > 1852. > I have found 3 children George c 1832 (not reg) and Elizabeth Emma & > Hannah. > > There may have been others, and would like to know of these. > > Fanny then married John Hammond in Launceston in 1855. > There don't appear to be any issue of this marriage, (she was about 46, so > not surprising) > > Frances/Fanny was found guilty of vagrancy in Launceston 21/8/1874 and > received 2 months with hard labour, > however she died the next day. > > John Hammond married Emma Terry in 1880. They already had 3-4 children by > this time. > > My queries are: what was the connection between Emma Terry and John > Hammond's first wife, if any? > Or am I wrong to be thinking they married the same J ohn Hammond? > > I can find no birth for an Emma Terry, c 1853, also known on one occasion > as Emily. > > I don't need any other information as I have the relevant BDMs as > mentioned above, > > cheers Sally > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:38:53 +1000 > From: Catherine Hamilton <cathloushaw@gmail.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Family Search records > To: Rootsweb <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <556853D3-F313-4CB6-8CB3-2A992F739CF5@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1®ion=AUSTRALIA_NEW_ZEALAND > > Just found this link. Looks like more information has been added recently. > > Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933 > 17 Apr 2013 > Australia, Tasmania, Correspondence of the Immigration Office Concerning > the Nomination, Arrival and Settlement of Migrants, 1920-1943 > 14 Apr 2014 > Australia, Tasmania, Miscellaneous Records, 1829-1961 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:22:30 +1000 > From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas > Terry, Emma Terry > To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com>, "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" > <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CA+2VmnF50BDhf_Qojkm74A0N0xmJnKBx+4UPdSqeo4zKqYnAug@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Sally, > > Just dug around a bit and can't really answer your query but might offer a > couple of points. > > Thomas and Fanny are in the 1848 census as living at Margaret Street in > Launceston. There are 2 boys and a girl listed as living at that address. > Since their daughter Hannah died in 1845 it leaves an unknown male child, > so possibly another son. > > Just to pinpoint the John Hammond your looking at - in his obit from 1883 > he was from "Cheshire, England". Pretty sure he was the convict per "Maya", > transported with his brothers Thomas and George. All from Knutsford, > Cheshire. > > http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_ > viewer.htm?CON33-1-79,204,66,L,80 > Could the Emily Terry you are looking for, be the Elizabeth Emma Terry > baptised 14 April 1854 to John Vincent and Ellen Terry - > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35349-22410-49?cc=2125029&wc=M7HL-BM9:387523601,387523602,387527201 > > Perhaps her death certificate from 1923 as Emma Austin, buried Carr villa > 12/7/1923 might hold a clue ?? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I am looking for a little bit of information if anyone is attached to any > > of the above people. > > > > Frances Crew was a convict, arr. per Lady of the Lake, 1829. > > She married Thomas Terry in Hobart in 1834, and he died in Launceston in > > 1852. > > I have found 3 children George c 1832 (not reg) and Elizabeth Emma & > > Hannah. > > > > There may have been others, and would like to know of these. > > > > Fanny then married John Hammond in Launceston in 1855. > > There don't appear to be any issue of this marriage, (she was about 46, > so > > not surprising) > > > > Frances/Fanny was found guilty of vagrancy in Launceston 21/8/1874 and > > received 2 months with hard labour, > > however she died the next day. > > > > John Hammond married Emma Terry in 1880. They already had 3-4 children by > > this time. > > > > My queries are: what was the connection between Emma Terry and John > > Hammond's first wife, if any? > > Or am I wrong to be thinking they married the same J ohn Hammond? > > > > I can find no birth for an Emma Terry, c 1853, also known on one occasion > > as Emily. > > > > I don't need any other information as I have the relevant BDMs as > > mentioned above, > > > > cheers Sally > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:58:53 +1000 > From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas > Terry, Emma Terry > To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com>, "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" > <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CA+2VmnGDRYwrZKV1PQquj+JRHswo_jzOO8TyyB= > U-79eTry8NQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I saw a couple of threads on other genealogical lists regarding John > Vincent Terry and hiss family. I saw how confusing some of the research was > and ... "UH UH, not going there !!". > > If you look in the newspaper articles in Victoria regarding the "disgrace" > it appears Mary Ann O'Connor and Mr Terry were married in 1858 and she > divorced him in 1861. The divorce is in the PROV indexes online. > > John Hammond and Emma Terry just before they married in 1880 laid > "threatening" charges against one another 21 Feb 1880. I thought they might > be in Launceston police charge book (POL450/1/2) but alas because they > withdrew the charges they weren't entered. Based on other entries in the > book either side of that date the information would have given their > identities more flesh... > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Pete, > > thank you very much for those links, most confirm what I already have, > > particularly grateful re John Hammond per Maya, will > > follow that up. > > > > Re the Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 to John Vincent Terry & Ellen. > > She is a distinct possibility. I can find no other refs to an Ellen, or > > Elizabeth Emma for that matter. > > John Vincent Terry her father, was a ships carpenter, he later appears in > > Victoria in 1866 - built the Waygunya, > > 1868 married to Mary Ann OConnor, he previously of Tasmania > > 1872 sued for maintenance by said Mary Ann, shipbuilder - owned brig, > 3-4 > > houses, dock etc. 4 children & 1 imminent. > > He had previously thrown her out for drunkenness & staying out all night. > > He & the children were being cared for by 2 servants, > > one being the girl who caused the disgrace. > > 1873 Goaled for 2 years for perjury re above case & for registering a > > birth & death of an illegitimate child using a false name. > > A brother George appeared as a witness. Birth of 5th child - not the one > > referred to here. > > 1887 marriage of John Vincent Terry's "only" dau Louisa. > > > > 1894 supposed death of John Vincent Terry in Suva, no source. ? > > > > 1918 - death of Mary Ann, relict of John Vincent, 2 daughters named - > > Louisa & a deceased Emma. > > > > The Emma I am researching died in 1923, but perhaps Mary Ann had another > > child later, (or he denied paternity as there was a bit > > of trouble in the marriage) > > > > So - if this Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 indeed married John Hammond it > > would mean that he was her > > Grandmother's 2nd husband? In fact her step grandfather? > > > > Cheers > > Sally > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:33:29 +1000 > From: Robin Walker <janomejinks@gmail.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAJRMX0asKbSyc4cDj_diTkPxtORGYCNhNVyzQqPg2wTFJXSfyw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Good morning all, > Last night I watched a movie called Sisters at War which was basically set > in Rabaul, PNG. > It bought to mind something my mothers talked about - I did listen this > time. > > She talked about a Nursing Sister who used to work at the Launceston > General Hospital and was from Launceston. She was a prisoner in Malaysia > or Singapore I think. She survived the war by feigning death but she > returned to Launceston and I remember my mother going to her funeral > which I think was held in the Chapel at Cosgrove Park. My mother must > have known this brave lady to go to her funeral. > > Is there someone out there who would know who this was please. > > Byeeeee Robin W, Launceston > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:26:12 +1000 > From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Clark death Hobart 1846 > To: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CA+2VmnFsm_VvnuGFtiYGY6Oni0hFmDx1-gXub8w0CjZmNkAJjA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Listers, > > Going a little crazy here - I've got the death of an Ann Clark on 22 Sept > 1846 in Hobart reg. # 417 but do you think I can find it in the Family > Search online records?? > > Could someone with TPI double check this reg. for me? or have a browse to > see if they can find the certificate online. I'm dumbfounded after > searching... > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:52:47 +1000 > From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT > To: "'Robin Walker'" <janomejinks@gmail.com>, > <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000901cf85c7$ddb33890$9919a9b0$@com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The faking death was an incident in a book I read about 50 years ago - was > it Vivian (Vivienne?) Bullwinkle (Bullwinkel?)? the name of the book > "White > Coolies" comes to mind too, but I do not know if it was in that book or > another along similar lines that the incident was told. > > Dawn (Melbourne) > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Walker > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 7:33 AM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT > > Good morning all, > Last night I watched a movie called Sisters at War which was basically set > in Rabaul, PNG. > It bought to mind something my mothers talked about - I did listen this > time. > > She talked about a Nursing Sister who used to work at the Launceston > General Hospital and was from Launceston. She was a prisoner in Malaysia > or Singapore I think. She survived the war by feigning death but she > returned to Launceston and I remember my mother going to her funeral > which I think was held in the Chapel at Cosgrove Park. My mother must > have known this brave lady to go to her funeral. > > Is there someone out there who would know who this was please. > > Byeeeee Robin W, Launceston > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:47:23 +1000 > From: Gene Bear <gene2bear@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas > Terry, Emma Terry > To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> > Cc: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <0B461067-E459-4B07-ACD6-A509BE024B3D@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Just out of interest, is the 'Wayguna' mentioned a Murray River > Paddleboat?? > > There is a PS WAHGUNYAH built in 1866 in Wahgunyah, Victoria by Terry & > Pattison. > > Can give further info if required. > > All the best, Clare > > > > > > >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Pete, > >> thank you very much for those links, most confirm what I already have, > >> particularly grateful re John Hammond per Maya, will > >> follow that up. > >> > >> Re the Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 to John Vincent Terry & Ellen. > >> She is a distinct possibility. I can find no other refs to an Ellen, or > >> Elizabeth Emma for that matter. > >> John Vincent Terry her father, was a ships carpenter, he later appears > in > >> Victoria in 1866 - built the Waygunya, > >> 1868 married to Mary Ann OConnor, he previously of Tasmania > >> 1872 sued for maintenance by said Mary Ann, shipbuilder - owned brig, > 3-4 > >> houses, dock etc. 4 children & 1 imminent. > >> He had previously thrown her out for drunkenness & staying out all > night. > >> He & the children were being cared for by 2 servants, > >> one being the girl who caused the disgrace. > >> 1873 Goaled for 2 years for perjury re above case & for registering a > >> birth & death of an illegitimate child using a false name. > >> A brother George appeared as a witness. Birth of 5th child - not the one > >> referred to here. > >> 1887 marriage of John Vincent Terry's "only" dau Louisa. > >> > >> 1894 supposed death of John Vincent Terry in Suva, no source. ? > >> > >> 1918 - death of Mary Ann, relict of John Vincent, 2 daughters named - > >> Louisa & a deceased Emma. > >> > >> The Emma I am researching died in 1923, but perhaps Mary Ann had another > >> child later, (or he denied paternity as there was a bit > >> of trouble in the marriage) > >> > >> So - if this Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 indeed married John Hammond it > >> would mean that he was her > >> Grandmother's 2nd husband? In fact her step grandfather? > >> > >> Cheers > >> Sally > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-TASMANIA list administrator, send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-TASMANIA mailing list, send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-TASMANIA Digest, Vol 9, Issue 99 > ******************************************* >
Reply to message 8 White Coolies. Have read the book ages ago. Do not recall a faked death but I could be wrong. Suggest you watch the movie "Paradise Road" which is based in part on the White Coolies book. It could have useful information in the credits. Brings to mind the mini-series "Tenko" also similar. Jennifer Jennifer *If I don't get back to you when you are expecting me to, please feel free to email me again. Life gets hectic sometimes and I really do want to stay in touch! * On 12 June 2014 10:16, Jennifer Bell <jaznjjj@gmail.com> wrote: > Reply to message 7. > Hi there, always interested to hear about any research in Hobart with the > name Clark, Clarke or James. My ancestor, Edith Clark or James, born > Hobart probably 1870s. Used either name at different times on documents. > Possible connection to an orphaned child in the Benevolent Asylum Sydney > sent to Hobart - also a sister Fanny. More information available if this > rings any bells. Thanks, Jennifer > > Jennifer > *If I don't get back to you when you are expecting me to, please feel free > to email me again. Life gets hectic sometimes and I really do want to stay > in touch! * > > > > On 12 June 2014 09:17, <aus-tasmania-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Information Page >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. The Cox family of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England (Edie) >> 2. John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma Terry >> (narnty) >> 3. Family Search records (Catherine Hamilton) >> 4. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma >> Terry (Peter Oakley) >> 5. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma >> Terry (Peter Oakley) >> 6. This might be a little off topic BUT (Robin Walker) >> 7. Ann Clark death Hobart 1846 (Peter Oakley) >> 8. Re: This might be a little off topic BUT (Dawn Webb) >> 9. Re: John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, Emma >> Terry (Gene Bear) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:34:52 +1000 >> From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] The Cox family of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, >> England >> To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <EF6181CAABE440DFBF2576706DEB42DF@user633a122f89> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi >> For those of you like me who are researching the family of John Cox and >> Ann >> Brooks. I stumbled upon Andrew Cox website >> www.hanslopecox.org.uk it has the family from 1500 to late 1700. Our >> line >> is there and it gives the baptism and 2 marriges of Johns parents Samuel >> and >> Susanna Parks. Johns siblings. Andrews work is from original parish >> registers etc. >> >> May be useful to someone researching this family of Cox who first arrived >> in >> Port Jackson 1792 aboard the Indiaman "Pitt", then went to Norfolk island >> c1804 and then were transferred to Van Diemns land in 1813 aboard the lady >> Nelson. >> Edie McArthur >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:54:00 +1000 >> From: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas Terry, >> Emma Terry >> To: "AUS-Tasmania" <AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BAY176-DS13EE91DF9CA2A97CE23342F12E0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi all, >> I am looking for a little bit of information if anyone is attached to any >> of the above people. >> >> Frances Crew was a convict, arr. per Lady of the Lake, 1829. >> She married Thomas Terry in Hobart in 1834, and he died in Launceston in >> 1852. >> I have found 3 children George c 1832 (not reg) and Elizabeth Emma & >> Hannah. >> >> There may have been others, and would like to know of these. >> >> Fanny then married John Hammond in Launceston in 1855. >> There don't appear to be any issue of this marriage, (she was about 46, >> so not surprising) >> >> Frances/Fanny was found guilty of vagrancy in Launceston 21/8/1874 and >> received 2 months with hard labour, >> however she died the next day. >> >> John Hammond married Emma Terry in 1880. They already had 3-4 children by >> this time. >> >> My queries are: what was the connection between Emma Terry and John >> Hammond's first wife, if any? >> Or am I wrong to be thinking they married the same J ohn Hammond? >> >> I can find no birth for an Emma Terry, c 1853, also known on one occasion >> as Emily. >> >> I don't need any other information as I have the relevant BDMs as >> mentioned above, >> >> cheers Sally >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 08:38:53 +1000 >> From: Catherine Hamilton <cathloushaw@gmail.com> >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Family Search records >> To: Rootsweb <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <556853D3-F313-4CB6-8CB3-2A992F739CF5@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list/?page=1®ion=AUSTRALIA_NEW_ZEALAND >> >> Just found this link. Looks like more information has been added recently. >> >> Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933 >> 17 Apr 2013 >> Australia, Tasmania, Correspondence of the Immigration Office Concerning >> the Nomination, Arrival and Settlement of Migrants, 1920-1943 >> 14 Apr 2014 >> Australia, Tasmania, Miscellaneous Records, 1829-1961 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:22:30 +1000 >> From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas >> Terry, Emma Terry >> To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com>, "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" >> <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CA+2VmnF50BDhf_Qojkm74A0N0xmJnKBx+4UPdSqeo4zKqYnAug@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Hi Sally, >> >> Just dug around a bit and can't really answer your query but might offer a >> couple of points. >> >> Thomas and Fanny are in the 1848 census as living at Margaret Street in >> Launceston. There are 2 boys and a girl listed as living at that address. >> Since their daughter Hannah died in 1845 it leaves an unknown male child, >> so possibly another son. >> >> Just to pinpoint the John Hammond your looking at - in his obit from 1883 >> he was from "Cheshire, England". Pretty sure he was the convict per >> "Maya", >> transported with his brothers Thomas and George. All from Knutsford, >> Cheshire. >> >> http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_ >> viewer.htm?CON33-1-79,204,66,L,80 >> Could the Emily Terry you are looking for, be the Elizabeth Emma Terry >> baptised 14 April 1854 to John Vincent and Ellen Terry - >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35349-22410-49?cc=2125029&wc=M7HL-BM9:387523601,387523602,387527201 >> >> Perhaps her death certificate from 1923 as Emma Austin, buried Carr villa >> 12/7/1923 might hold a clue ?? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > I am looking for a little bit of information if anyone is attached to >> any >> > of the above people. >> > >> > Frances Crew was a convict, arr. per Lady of the Lake, 1829. >> > She married Thomas Terry in Hobart in 1834, and he died in Launceston in >> > 1852. >> > I have found 3 children George c 1832 (not reg) and Elizabeth Emma & >> > Hannah. >> > >> > There may have been others, and would like to know of these. >> > >> > Fanny then married John Hammond in Launceston in 1855. >> > There don't appear to be any issue of this marriage, (she was about 46, >> so >> > not surprising) >> > >> > Frances/Fanny was found guilty of vagrancy in Launceston 21/8/1874 and >> > received 2 months with hard labour, >> > however she died the next day. >> > >> > John Hammond married Emma Terry in 1880. They already had 3-4 children >> by >> > this time. >> > >> > My queries are: what was the connection between Emma Terry and John >> > Hammond's first wife, if any? >> > Or am I wrong to be thinking they married the same J ohn Hammond? >> > >> > I can find no birth for an Emma Terry, c 1853, also known on one >> occasion >> > as Emily. >> > >> > I don't need any other information as I have the relevant BDMs as >> > mentioned above, >> > >> > cheers Sally >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:58:53 +1000 >> From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas >> Terry, Emma Terry >> To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com>, "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" >> <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <CA+2VmnGDRYwrZKV1PQquj+JRHswo_jzOO8TyyB= >> U-79eTry8NQ@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I saw a couple of threads on other genealogical lists regarding John >> Vincent Terry and hiss family. I saw how confusing some of the research >> was >> and ... "UH UH, not going there !!". >> >> If you look in the newspaper articles in Victoria regarding the "disgrace" >> it appears Mary Ann O'Connor and Mr Terry were married in 1858 and she >> divorced him in 1861. The divorce is in the PROV indexes online. >> >> John Hammond and Emma Terry just before they married in 1880 laid >> "threatening" charges against one another 21 Feb 1880. I thought they >> might >> be in Launceston police charge book (POL450/1/2) but alas because they >> withdrew the charges they weren't entered. Based on other entries in the >> book either side of that date the information would have given their >> identities more flesh... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Pete, >> > thank you very much for those links, most confirm what I already have, >> > particularly grateful re John Hammond per Maya, will >> > follow that up. >> > >> > Re the Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 to John Vincent Terry & Ellen. >> > She is a distinct possibility. I can find no other refs to an Ellen, or >> > Elizabeth Emma for that matter. >> > John Vincent Terry her father, was a ships carpenter, he later appears >> in >> > Victoria in 1866 - built the Waygunya, >> > 1868 married to Mary Ann OConnor, he previously of Tasmania >> > 1872 sued for maintenance by said Mary Ann, shipbuilder - owned brig, >> 3-4 >> > houses, dock etc. 4 children & 1 imminent. >> > He had previously thrown her out for drunkenness & staying out all >> night. >> > He & the children were being cared for by 2 servants, >> > one being the girl who caused the disgrace. >> > 1873 Goaled for 2 years for perjury re above case & for registering a >> > birth & death of an illegitimate child using a false name. >> > A brother George appeared as a witness. Birth of 5th child - not the one >> > referred to here. >> > 1887 marriage of John Vincent Terry's "only" dau Louisa. >> > >> > 1894 supposed death of John Vincent Terry in Suva, no source. ? >> > >> > 1918 - death of Mary Ann, relict of John Vincent, 2 daughters named - >> > Louisa & a deceased Emma. >> > >> > The Emma I am researching died in 1923, but perhaps Mary Ann had another >> > child later, (or he denied paternity as there was a bit >> > of trouble in the marriage) >> > >> > So - if this Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 indeed married John Hammond it >> > would mean that he was her >> > Grandmother's 2nd husband? In fact her step grandfather? >> > >> > Cheers >> > Sally >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:33:29 +1000 >> From: Robin Walker <janomejinks@gmail.com> >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT >> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> < >> CAJRMX0asKbSyc4cDj_diTkPxtORGYCNhNVyzQqPg2wTFJXSfyw@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Good morning all, >> Last night I watched a movie called Sisters at War which was basically set >> in Rabaul, PNG. >> It bought to mind something my mothers talked about - I did listen this >> time. >> >> She talked about a Nursing Sister who used to work at the Launceston >> General Hospital and was from Launceston. She was a prisoner in Malaysia >> or Singapore I think. She survived the war by feigning death but she >> returned to Launceston and I remember my mother going to her funeral >> which I think was held in the Chapel at Cosgrove Park. My mother must >> have known this brave lady to go to her funeral. >> >> Is there someone out there who would know who this was please. >> >> Byeeeee Robin W, Launceston >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:26:12 +1000 >> From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Clark death Hobart 1846 >> To: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CA+2VmnFsm_VvnuGFtiYGY6Oni0hFmDx1-gXub8w0CjZmNkAJjA@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> Going a little crazy here - I've got the death of an Ann Clark on 22 Sept >> 1846 in Hobart reg. # 417 but do you think I can find it in the Family >> Search online records?? >> >> Could someone with TPI double check this reg. for me? or have a browse to >> see if they can find the certificate online. I'm dumbfounded after >> searching... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:52:47 +1000 >> From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT >> To: "'Robin Walker'" <janomejinks@gmail.com>, >> <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <000901cf85c7$ddb33890$9919a9b0$@com.au> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> The faking death was an incident in a book I read about 50 years ago - was >> it Vivian (Vivienne?) Bullwinkle (Bullwinkel?)? the name of the book >> "White >> Coolies" comes to mind too, but I do not know if it was in that book or >> another along similar lines that the incident was told. >> >> Dawn (Melbourne) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Walker >> Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 7:33 AM >> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] This might be a little off topic BUT >> >> Good morning all, >> Last night I watched a movie called Sisters at War which was basically set >> in Rabaul, PNG. >> It bought to mind something my mothers talked about - I did listen this >> time. >> >> She talked about a Nursing Sister who used to work at the Launceston >> General Hospital and was from Launceston. She was a prisoner in Malaysia >> or Singapore I think. She survived the war by feigning death but she >> returned to Launceston and I remember my mother going to her funeral >> which I think was held in the Chapel at Cosgrove Park. My mother must >> have known this brave lady to go to her funeral. >> >> Is there someone out there who would know who this was please. >> >> Byeeeee Robin W, Launceston >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >> protection is active. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:47:23 +1000 >> From: Gene Bear <gene2bear@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Hammond, Frances (Fanny) Crewe, Thomas >> Terry, Emma Terry >> To: narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> >> Cc: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <0B461067-E459-4B07-ACD6-A509BE024B3D@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Just out of interest, is the 'Wayguna' mentioned a Murray River >> Paddleboat?? >> >> There is a PS WAHGUNYAH built in 1866 in Wahgunyah, Victoria by Terry & >> Pattison. >> >> Can give further info if required. >> >> All the best, Clare >> >> > >> > >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Pete, >> >> thank you very much for those links, most confirm what I already have, >> >> particularly grateful re John Hammond per Maya, will >> >> follow that up. >> >> >> >> Re the Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 to John Vincent Terry & Ellen. >> >> She is a distinct possibility. I can find no other refs to an Ellen, >> or >> >> Elizabeth Emma for that matter. >> >> John Vincent Terry her father, was a ships carpenter, he later appears >> in >> >> Victoria in 1866 - built the Waygunya, >> >> 1868 married to Mary Ann OConnor, he previously of Tasmania >> >> 1872 sued for maintenance by said Mary Ann, shipbuilder - owned brig, >> 3-4 >> >> houses, dock etc. 4 children & 1 imminent. >> >> He had previously thrown her out for drunkenness & staying out all >> night. >> >> He & the children were being cared for by 2 servants, >> >> one being the girl who caused the disgrace. >> >> 1873 Goaled for 2 years for perjury re above case & for registering a >> >> birth & death of an illegitimate child using a false name. >> >> A brother George appeared as a witness. Birth of 5th child - not the >> one >> >> referred to here. >> >> 1887 marriage of John Vincent Terry's "only" dau Louisa. >> >> >> >> 1894 supposed death of John Vincent Terry in Suva, no source. ? >> >> >> >> 1918 - death of Mary Ann, relict of John Vincent, 2 daughters named - >> >> Louisa & a deceased Emma. >> >> >> >> The Emma I am researching died in 1923, but perhaps Mary Ann had >> another >> >> child later, (or he denied paternity as there was a bit >> >> of trouble in the marriage) >> >> >> >> So - if this Elizabeth Emma Terry b 1854 indeed married John Hammond it >> >> would mean that he was her >> >> Grandmother's 2nd husband? In fact her step grandfather? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Sally >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the AUS-TASMANIA list administrator, send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the AUS-TASMANIA mailing list, send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of AUS-TASMANIA Digest, Vol 9, Issue 99 >> ******************************************* >> > >