Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose

Hi Rose, Nothing on the Tasmanian Pioneer Index for his birth. The first birth registration on there is for Sophia Charlotte Stuart born 26 Sep 1843, District of Spring Bay. According to Andrew Thomas Stuart's obituary they were in Victoria for a short time before Tasmania. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page8364871 I have also checked the Victorian Pioneer Index but no birth registration on there for George Joseph Stuart either. Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Rose Aston <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2019 6:46 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose

Could this be him Rose ??? The only name not recorded of the 12 children, 10 recorded Tasman and yes I know it says female but I have a female ancestor noted as male. These things are sent to confuse us. Cheer Lyn VIC

Oopps might help if I had sent this. Lyn Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899 Surname: STUARTT Given Names: Name Not Recorded Event: Birth Father/Spouse Surname: A F Mother/Spouse Given Names: GILMORE MARY Day: 05 Month: 6 Year: 1854 Age: Sex: F Spouse Age: Spouse Sex: Registration Place: TASMAN Registration Number: 1223/1854 Reference: RGD 33

I suppose you have this entry at Hutchins school for him do you Rose. Idoes give his birth date https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:1527350/one Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rose Aston" <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 13 May, 2019 At 1:46 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Rose, George Jospeh Stuart seems to be part of a Peerage family. I have checked several times and it seems to be him in this family take a look. I have seen before where a child of a well off family has been sent to live away from home with another family. Could be wrong but take a look. and see what you think. https://gw.geneanet.org/orions8?lang=en&p=george+joseph&n=stuart Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rose Aston" <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 13 May, 2019 At 1:46 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

> On 15 May 2019, at 12:10 pm, eamca1944@bigpond.com wrote: > > Rose, George Jospeh Stuart seems to be part of a Peerage family. I have checked several times and it seems to be him in this family take a look. I have seen before where a child of a well off family has been sent to live away from home with another family. Could be wrong but take a look. and see what you think. > > https://gw.geneanet.org/orions8?lang=en&p=george+joseph&n=stuart > > Edie McArthur > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Rose Aston" <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> > To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 13 May, 2019 At 1:46 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph > > Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth > date, for George Joseph STUART. > Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. > > His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) > however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. > > Thank you, Rose > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If George Joseph Stuart's entry to Hutchins is correct and he was born in March of 1842 he may not have been born in Tasmania. There is a birth of Andrew Godfrey Stuart to Andrew Thomas Stewart in 1841 at Williamstown in Victoria - https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5cdb7458cc22df22f40afa63/results?q=efamily If the Stuarts departed Victoria to come to VDL in the 1842 period the birth may not have been recorded in Victoria or Tassie as it doesn't appear to be one in Victorian birth indexes. If it could be found where Andrew T Stewart was stationed in the 1842 period in Tasmania or Victoria a baptism might exist. I think that might be the only hope for a identification of George Josephs's birth. Cheers, Peter > >

Just noticed in the Hutchins entry book that Rose linked in that Andrew Godfrey Stuart was also enrolled the same time as George Joseph. He is also aged 11. Looking closer at George Joseph's age the 11 looks as though it might be a little different. Could it be a 10 rather than an 11? or something else? Cheers, Peter On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:41 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > If George Joseph Stuart's entry to Hutchins is correct and he was born in > March of 1842 he may not have been born in Tasmania. There is a birth of > Andrew Godfrey Stuart to Andrew Thomas Stewart in 1841 at Williamstown in > Victoria - > > > https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5cdb7458cc22df22f40afa63/results?q=efamily > > > If the Stuarts departed Victoria to come to VDL in the 1842 period the > birth may not have been recorded in Victoria or Tassie as it doesn't appear > to be one in Victorian birth indexes. If it could be found where Andrew T > Stewart was stationed in the 1842 period in Tasmania or Victoria a baptism > might exist. I think that might be the only hope for a identification of > George Josephs's birth. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > >> >>

Hi All, I can’t help with your search, but wanted to ask if you had checked NSW for births in Victoria in your time frame. Victoria didn’t become a separate colony until 1851 so BDM was recorded in NSW until then. Regards Karlena Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 12:52:17 PM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Cc: eamca1944@bigpond.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: STUART, George Joseph Just noticed in the Hutchins entry book that Rose linked in that Andrew Godfrey Stuart was also enrolled the same time as George Joseph. He is also aged 11. Looking closer at George Joseph's age the 11 looks as though it might be a little different. Could it be a 10 rather than an 11? or something else? Cheers, Peter On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:41 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > If George Joseph Stuart's entry to Hutchins is correct and he was born in > March of 1842 he may not have been born in Tasmania. There is a birth of > Andrew Godfrey Stuart to Andrew Thomas Stewart in 1841 at Williamstown in > Victoria - > > > https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5cdb7458cc22df22f40afa63/results?q=efamily > > > If the Stuarts departed Victoria to come to VDL in the 1842 period the > birth may not have been recorded in Victoria or Tassie as it doesn't appear > to be one in Victorian birth indexes. If it could be found where Andrew T > Stewart was stationed in the 1842 period in Tasmania or Victoria a baptism > might exist. I think that might be the only hope for a identification of > George Josephs's birth. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > >> >> _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I thought that also Peter, to me it looks like a squashed up 0 ,so could very well be ten.  the date of birth for George, is still 1842 on the names index but that may be because the transrciber thought it was a 1.  The months of birth on the written record of enrollment are different so not twins. I do think it is ten. Edie ------ Original Message ------ From: "Peter Oakley" <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> To: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Cc: "eamca1944@bigpond.com" <eamca1944@bigpond.com> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May, 2019 At 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Re: STUART, George Joseph Just noticed in the Hutchins entry book that Rose linked in that Andrew Godfrey Stuart was also enrolled the same time as George Joseph. He is also aged 11. Looking closer at George Joseph's age the 11 looks as though it might be a little different. Could it be a 10 rather than an 11? or something else? Cheers, Peter On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:41 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com <mailto:pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: If George Joseph Stuart's entry to Hutchins is correct and he was born in March of 1842 he may not have been born in Tasmania. There is a birth of Andrew Godfrey Stuart to Andrew Thomas Stewart in 1841 at Williamstown in Victoria -  https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5cdb7458cc22df22f40afa63/results?q=efamily <https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/5cdb7458cc22df22f40afa63/results?q=efamily>   If the Stuarts departed Victoria to come to VDL in the 1842 period the birth may not have been recorded in Victoria or Tassie as it doesn't appear to be one in Victorian birth indexes. If it could be found where Andrew T Stewart was stationed in the 1842 period in Tasmania or Victoria a baptism might exist. I think that might be the only hope for a identification of George Josephs's birth. Cheers, Peter  

I had a quick look at the Buckland C of E Baptism register microfilm at the library (NS1153/1/1) which starts in 1844 on the chance Andrew Thomas may have baptised George and Sophia a little later being Superintendent of the Probation Party at Buckland in 1843 but no luck. They did have John James Ockettree Stuart baptised there in 1847 but no others show earlier. Cheers, Peter

I wonder if the family took a holiday back in Tyurone, Ireland where Anderew Godfrey Stuart was born. He may have been born overseas. Inote a few births in the 1850's on familysearch inTasmania and I note a couple of obits for Uncles of Andrew Godfrey Stuart who died in London. They are definitely members of the Peerage family of Stuart. Appeared tob eStewart earlier then stuart. The obit mentions the relative in Hobart. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8940596?searchTerm=Andrew%20Godfrey%20Stuart&searchLimits= Obit of Andrew Thomas Stuart father of George Joseph Stuart relative of above deceased https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9319449?searchTerm=Andrew%20Godfrey%20Stuart&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10300545?searchTerm=Andrew%20Godfrey%20Stuart&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania sister of the above Andrew Thomas Stuart Edie ------ Original Message ------ From: "Peter Oakley" <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> To: Cc: "AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 16 May, 2019 At 4:01 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: STUART, George Joseph I had a quick look at the Buckland C of E Baptism register microfilm at the library (NS1153/1/1) which starts in 1844 on the chance Andrew Thomas may have baptised George and Sophia a little later being Superintendent of the Probation Party at Buckland in 1843 but no luck. They did have John James Ockettree Stuart baptised there in 1847 but no others show earlier. Cheers, Peter _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Rose, Did you see my email it went into my junk file, so I dont know if you received it or not. Edie McARthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "eamca1944@bigpond.com" <eamca1944@bigpond.com> To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 May, 2019 At 7:10 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: STUART, George Joseph Rose, George Jospeh Stuart seems to be part of a Peerage family. I have checked several times and it seems to be him in this family take a look. I have seen before where a child of a well off family has been sent to live away from home with another family. Could be wrong but take a look. and see what you think. https://gw.geneanet.org/orions8?lang=en&p=george+joseph&n=stuart Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rose Aston" <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 13 May, 2019 At 1:46 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Rose, I am wondering if the reason you are not finding George Joseph Stuart birth registration is because his father at the time the two boys were enrolled in Hutchins school is because at that time he was a Superintendant, Major in HMS.That is mentioned in the familysearch tree and I noted in the Hutchins School record it mentions Port Arthur is mentioned onhis his brother in the Hutchins enrollment. Now my sister was born in Scotland while my father was in the Royal Air force and her birth certificate registration was in a different book to the rest of us. There is a Separate Registration for Military personel births. maybe not for all but I know there was one as I had to jot down my sisters information from the other registration book. It may have been different back then but worth looking into. Maybe his registration is in England or maybe there is such a thing as Military births, deaths and marriage registration book. Edie McARthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rose Aston" <foggykiwiretiree@gmail.com> To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 13 May, 2019 At 1:46 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] STUART, George Joseph Can the group please help me with finding the birth certificate, and birth date, for George Joseph STUART. Parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. His death, 21 Aug 1921, details indicate he was born 1851 (estimated) however I believe he was born earlier than this, perhaps 1840 - 1843. Thank you, Rose _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community