This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer playable. While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was mentioned. Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea how it does. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris In Melbourne

Hi, I would also like to know how this works please Barb ________________________________ From: Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 12:50 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer playable. While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was mentioned. Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea how it does. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris In Melbourne _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My technician knew all about the problem and installed the old 16 bit/readable by 32 bit as an overlay over the top of the 64 bit current windows. Harvey Normjan et al do not do it as it takes an extra few hours. But now the Windows I have as the basic operating system needs to be replaced by "?christmas and I do not know what will happen then. Maybe the old stand alone computer might be the go and a "new" version to connect etc to the internet. OR - I guess you could just use your smartphone for internet etc . I prefer not to do that and live in the past - about 10 years past! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: barbara wells [mailto:barbara_mackinno@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 11:00 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi, I would also like to know how this works please Barb ________________________________ From: Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 12:50 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer playable. While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was mentioned. Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea how it does. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris In Melbourne _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Look for Oracle VM VirtualBox. A colleague installed it on my computer and it works really well for Digger discs. I have no technical knowledge at all being a semi Luddite!! Regards Chris - Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 10:20 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer playable. While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was mentioned. Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea how it does. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris In Melbourne _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fsites.rootsweb.com%2F~austashs%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554566808&amp;sdata=pREcjEp8ABKDZZLxlWSHaZTnyyJGvOzUUZr6AJGUoOM%3D&amp;reserved=0 Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554576819&amp;sdata=gpoYNmlp9wIhuBaBzu7IuQ9zBafGHyhZE2ny01QiNM0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Faus-tasmania%40rootsweb.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554576819&amp;sdata=EBug%2BFAObsPmYFUbS8IRaLiV7wbAGjzWiRyYuIRRC%2FM%3D&amp;reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554576819&amp;sdata=Y7klwQFhBUj5Pn8wd6sc5VMJ%2FmlUt%2FVSxlNEWQoBoN0%3D&amp;reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554576819&amp;sdata=lne1l1xu6wyx0rJZJYGN2FfuBPdEE8uUjpf0OHG%2BVEI%3D&amp;reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C98dd2c044f384322a5af08d6c785bce5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915774554576819&amp;sdata=z3wkO0O%2B62txYgg3UZcxMwu2YW%2BRh1oE0WPswXbOMz8%3D&amp;reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My grandson also installed this on my computer and it really does work. Cheers Lyn VIC

Oracle VM VirtualBox. Cheers Lyn VIC My grandson also installed this on my computer and it really does work. Cheers Lyn VIC _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

No trouble here either Chris (2years) and I don't have VM aware installed. I gave a clever grandson :-) Cheers Lyn

Hi Lyn and all who have contributed to my post. Thank you for your input. I now have a good idea of what's involved, and look forward to this materialising some time in May. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:chedoona@beagle.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 5:13 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions No trouble here either Chris (2years) and I don't have VM aware installed. I gave a clever grandson :-) Cheers Lyn _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC.  It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer.  The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory.  It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC.  I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while.  I use the paid version.  I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost.  If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old > computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the > laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was > mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able > to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of > going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea > how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old > computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the > laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was > mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able > to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of > going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea > how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Chris, I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non commercial use. That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the virtual (32 Bit) PC. If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each CD run from within the folder/folders. If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. > I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. > Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. > Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. > Regards > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of > Windows, even back in XP etc. > > Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows > installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger > amounts of memory etc. > > One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit > version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in > that "virtual" PC. > > One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" > facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. > > I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. > > You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more > "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard > drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer > memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, > access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and > memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared > from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives > and printers etc. > > You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I > have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit > installed in the virtual PC using VMware. > > There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial > use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I > purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual > PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased > support for XP some years ago I updated. > > You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the > Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. > > If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 > Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the > free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows > it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install > the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. > > In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the > installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and > remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible > damage to the discs when handling them. > > Regards > > Ray > > > > > On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >> >> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old >> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >> playable. >> >> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the >> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >> >> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was >> mentioned. >> >> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able >> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea >> how it does. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> Chris >> >> In Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >

With regard to the virtual drive not accessing the internet, i imagine this could be prevented by my computer man. The reason for a new computer was driven by the lack of security for XP. Thanks to both Ray and Mike for their technical advice. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 3:33 PM To: Chris Kealy; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non commercial use. That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the virtual (32 Bit) PC. If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each CD run from within the folder/folders. If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. > I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. > Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. > Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. > Regards > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of > Windows, even back in XP etc. > > Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows > installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger > amounts of memory etc. > > One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit > version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in > that "virtual" PC. > > One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" > facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. > > I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. > > You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more > "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard > drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer > memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, > access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and > memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared > from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives > and printers etc. > > You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I > have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit > installed in the virtual PC using VMware. > > There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial > use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I > purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual > PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased > support for XP some years ago I updated. > > You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the > Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. > > If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 > Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the > free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows > it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install > the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. > > In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the > installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and > remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible > damage to the discs when handling them. > > Regards > > Ray > > > > > On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >> >> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old >> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >> playable. >> >> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the >> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >> >> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was >> mentioned. >> >> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able >> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea >> how it does. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> Chris >> >> In Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Yes, If using VMware, Virtual Machine Settings, Network Adaptor On 23/04/2019 3:54 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > With regard to the virtual drive not accessing the internet, i imagine this > could be prevented by my computer man. The reason for a new computer was > driven by the lack of security for XP. > Thanks to both Ray and Mike for their technical advice. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 3:33 PM > To: Chris Kealy; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non > commercial use. > > That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of > Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the > virtual (32 Bit) PC. > > If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the > laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each > CD run from within the folder/folders. > > If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be > best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security > fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. > > Regards > > Ray > > > On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: >> Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro > disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. >> I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've > understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and > from there the Digger disks can be installed. >> Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i > copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save > to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. >> Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. >> Regards >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] >> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM >> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of >> Windows, even back in XP etc. >> >> Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows >> installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger >> amounts of memory etc. >> >> One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit >> version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in >> that "virtual" PC. >> >> One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" >> facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. >> >> I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. >> >> You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more >> "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard >> drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer >> memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, >> access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and >> memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared >> from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives >> and printers etc. >> >> You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I >> have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit >> installed in the virtual PC using VMware. >> >> There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial >> use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I >> purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual >> PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased >> support for XP some years ago I updated. >> >> You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the >> Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. >> >> If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 >> Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the >> free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows >> it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install >> the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. >> >> In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the >> installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and >> remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible >> damage to the discs when handling them. >> >> Regards >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> >> On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >>> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >>> >>> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the > old >>> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >>> playable. >>> >>> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but > the >>> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >>> >>> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory > was >>> mentioned. >>> >>> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be > able >>> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >>> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no > idea >>> how it does. >>> >>> Thanking you in anticipation. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> In Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > >

Ray, I cannot thank you enough. Your email finally gave me the courage to install a virtual pc AND Vista AND the TPI that I have had sitting on a disk for years! Your instructions were very helpful. Although, when I announced to the children that I had accomplished this feat, my 16 year old son says, 'oh that's easy'!!! Anyway, the only question I have is how you copied the disks to the virtual pc? My attempt left me with a message as to where the cd had gone. I don’t want to have to use it every time (and yes I will ask the cheeky son). In all a brilliant outcome and as I live in Adelaide, a much more efficient use of time. Thanks again. Anna -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes <rayhayes@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 1:50 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when > the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no > longer playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks > but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual > memory was mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be > able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and > outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but > have no idea how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I took the easy way out Anna and had my technician put them on the computer. I remember watching him and he put in a piece of code overwriting what was already there to do with location. It was about 10 years ago at least - can't help you more! But I think it is fairly easy to do if you have the knowledge shall we say. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: apgraves71@gmail.com [mailto:apgraves71@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2019 5:32 PM To: rayhayes@bigpond.net.au; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Ray, I cannot thank you enough. Your email finally gave me the courage to install a virtual pc AND Vista AND the TPI that I have had sitting on a disk for years! Your instructions were very helpful. Although, when I announced to the children that I had accomplished this feat, my 16 year old son says, 'oh that's easy'!!! Anyway, the only question I have is how you copied the disks to the virtual pc? My attempt left me with a message as to where the cd had gone. I don’t want to have to use it every time (and yes I will ask the cheeky son). In all a brilliant outcome and as I live in Adelaide, a much more efficient use of time. Thanks again. Anna -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes <rayhayes@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 1:50 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when > the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no > longer playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks > but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual > memory was mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be > able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and > outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but > have no idea how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

It has nothing to do with virtual memory. Virtual memory has been part Windows since 1995 (Win 95 & Win NT). All recent windows (XP, 7, 8, 10) are evolved from NT. If you are running the app from a hard drive or flash drive, right click on the *.exe file, select the "Compatibility" tab, and select the appropriate XP option. See attached screen snag for an example. If you are running the app directly from the CD-ROM drive, you will have to copy the *.exe file to writable media (hard/flash/thumb drive) to change the compatibility mode. If the Digger software allows you to navigate to a file, it should work. If it expects the data to be in a certain location relative to the *.exe file, you will have to copy the entire CD-ROM to writable medium. I would suggest using a flash drive, since you can reproduce the exact file hierarchy that is on the CD-ROM. And a caveat: Sometime people "copy protect" their software so that it can try to detect if it not in its original environment. If that happens you will need to burn it back to a new CD-ROM or DVD and try to make it look as much like the original CD-ROM as possible (same names, label, file hierarchy). It might or might not work. Mike On Mon, April 22, 2019 7:50 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the > old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > (snipped)