Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! Thanks Elaine
Hi Elaine you can search on the Tasmanian Names Index. I did so and the one below came up. https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=James&qu=Phelps There are his Convict records, (arrival per Marquis of Hastings in 1842 as Philps), and also his Marriage Permission for Sarah Griffiths in 1846 as Phelps. If he was appointed a Constable you may find that in the Newspapers, usually announced in the Gov Gazette I think. [Cover image for Philps , James] Name: Philps , James<https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=NI_NAME%3D%22Philps%20,%20James%22> Record Type: Marriage Permissions<https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=NI_INDEX%3D%22Marriage%20Permissions%22> Ship/free: Marquis of Hastings<https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=NI_SHIP_FACET%3D%22Marquis%20of%20Hastings%22> Marriage to: Griffiths, Sarah<https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=NI_NAME%3D%22Griffiths,%20Sarah%22> Ship/free: Woodbridge<https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=NI_SHIP_FACET%3D%22Woodbridge%22> Permission date: 30 Nov 1846 Index number: 56215 Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:1261994 Resource: CON52/1/2 Page 404<https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-2p209> I assume this is the one you are looking for? Cheers Sally ________________________________ From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 29 March 2019 8:42 PM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Permission to marry Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! Thanks Elaine _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fsites.rootsweb.com%2F~austashs%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094026282&sdata=18xwWXvhv%2F4ipf%2Bgjda74%2BA5zGsjpxL3%2FcmzxBaQaZs%3D&reserved=0 Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094036293&sdata=uk0x6447h2xiff3nsgDxvpCd6OlTjhYOwxcxygZvqvQ%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Faus-tasmania%40rootsweb.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094036293&sdata=EX%2FgU5XMp3c99k6cQHmxQfVM3I4vfsgKpwXLPtt7K9M%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094036293&sdata=Vxx3sNFLmpRnBnSaR4%2FhuoL4U9TLH4%2BEZ6H4VbhTe8g%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094036293&sdata=LcIPRx5W9XQ23LwXU0ab53zRS7o7CD2DIbv2jYGQ3Qw%3D&reserved=0 Rootsweb Blog: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frootsweb.blog&data=02%7C01%7C%7C473c8209cb9b49a28e2308d6b42afebd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636894494094036293&sdata=qeSEBuTBRRNz%2FeTbuBY4q%2F1thkBsBSFIyxna46xAUf4%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Elaine Permission to Marry application here - https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-2p209 page 404 towards bottom. James names spelt a PHILLIPS and Sarah's name spelt as GRIFFITHS. 'Marquis of Hastings' conduct record here - https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-29$init=CON33-1-29p159 States became constable 4/3/46 in remarks column. According to his convict record born circa 1811 but marriage certificate puts it at 1814. Closest possibility to him might be the James PHILLIPS dying in 1879 in Hobart - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-9p182j2k Cheers, Peter On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:43 PM Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps > or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to > know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police > force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do > not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand > when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! > Thanks > Elaine > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Peter I thank you for looking up this Philips person but I think?? its the wrong one James Phelps or Philips married this Sarah Griffin and he states he was a police person and same on the birth of his daughter Margaret Rosetta 1849 Hobart There is an un named female 1847 Hobart A philips or Phelps came out on the same ship as his sister Sabra Court 1842 ARAB both aged 25 years I had all this years back but find I have lost it due to house renovations etc I cannot locat this ARAB using Ancestry or even Trove Wonder if I have confused this Philips, The philips who passed 1874 could be. Philps/ Phelps and his sister Sabra were born Meare Somerset 1810 for him and 1817 for her Sabra married 1841 Bristol to George Court who has long vanished She died 1901 Melbourne errrrrr I think its the man I am looking for Please humour me I am not well waiting to go into hospital This Phelps / Philips has had me going around in circles for a long time If its the guy does Trove have anything I looked If this Phili[s was convicted of whatever as I cannot read the page to well but could make out Southampton long way from Somerset Put it this way many thanks for your help Think I will go and scream!! Elaine On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:03 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Elaine > > Permission to Marry application here - > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-2p209 page 404 towards bottom. James names > spelt a PHILLIPS and Sarah's name spelt as GRIFFITHS. 'Marquis of > Hastings' conduct record here - > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-29$init=CON33-1-29p159 States became > constable 4/3/46 in remarks column. > > According to his convict record born circa 1811 but marriage certificate > puts it at 1814. Closest possibility to him might be the James PHILLIPS > dying in 1879 in Hobart - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-9p182j2k > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:43 PM Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps > > or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to > > know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police > > force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do > > not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand > > when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! > > Thanks > > Elaine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Hi Elaine, The ARAB voyage you are trying to recall arrived in Launceston 31 March 1842 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/CB7-9-1-1 go to page 47. George Court is listed there age 25 and he is marked with having a wife with him but unnamed. The Phillips identified on the same page is JOHN Phillips not James a blacksmith aged 25 who is single. (presumably tis is Sabra Courts brother?) The only reference I can find to a Sabra Court is the birth of a female child, Betsy in Evandale,9 Dec.1842 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD32-1-3-p551j2k Father isn't identified in the entry. Betsy appears to have died in 1843 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-2p067j2k The James Philips per 'Marquis of Hastings" seems to tick all the boxes when you look at the marriage permissions, the marriage and the births of the children in 1847 and 1849. It also appears that George Courts family and presumably blacksmith John Phillips were in the north of the state and James and Sarah Philips in the south. Cheers, Peter On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:13 PM Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter > I thank you for looking up this Philips person but I think?? its the > wrong one James Phelps or Philips married this Sarah Griffin and he > states he was a police person and same on the birth of his daughter > Margaret Rosetta 1849 Hobart There is an un named female 1847 Hobart > A philips or Phelps came out on the same ship as his sister Sabra > Court 1842 ARAB both aged 25 years I had all this years back but > find I have lost it due to house renovations etc I cannot locat this > ARAB using Ancestry or even Trove > Wonder if I have confused this Philips, The philips who passed 1874 could > be. > Philps/ Phelps and his sister Sabra were born Meare Somerset 1810 > for him and 1817 for her Sabra married 1841 Bristol to George Court > who has long vanished She died 1901 Melbourne > errrrrr > I think its the man I am looking for Please humour me I am not well > waiting to go into hospital This Phelps / Philips has had me going > around in circles for a long time If its the guy does Trove have > anything I looked > If this Phili[s was convicted of whatever as I cannot read the page to > well but could make out Southampton long way from Somerset > > Put it this way many thanks for your help Think I will go and scream!! > Elaine > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:03 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Elaine > > > > Permission to Marry application here - > > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-2p209 page 404 towards bottom. James > names > > spelt a PHILLIPS and Sarah's name spelt as GRIFFITHS. 'Marquis of > > Hastings' conduct record here - > > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-29$init=CON33-1-29p159 States became > > constable 4/3/46 in remarks column. > > > > According to his convict record born circa 1811 but marriage certificate > > puts it at 1814. Closest possibility to him might be the James PHILLIPS > > dying in 1879 in Hobart - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-9p182j2k > > > > Cheers, > > > > Peter > > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:43 PM Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps > > > or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to > > > know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police > > > force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do > > > not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand > > > when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! > > > Thanks > > > Elaine > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > Unsubscribe > > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > > community > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
The 'Arab' and its sister ship the 'Royal Saxon' were bounty immigrant ships. One of the sponsors was Rev. Henry Dowling, of Launceston, who travelled to England to gather immigrants, mainly in Somerset and surrounding counties. The full passenger lists for the ships have been lost, and only partial lists exist. Others may know more about what can be found re these ships. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Jefferson Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:12 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Permission to marry Peter I thank you for looking up this Philips person but I think?? its the wrong one James Phelps or Philips married this Sarah Griffin and he states he was a police person and same on the birth of his daughter Margaret Rosetta 1849 Hobart There is an un named female 1847 Hobart A philips or Phelps came out on the same ship as his sister Sabra Court 1842 ARAB both aged 25 years I had all this years back but find I have lost it due to house renovations etc I cannot locat this ARAB using Ancestry or even Trove Wonder if I have confused this Philips, The philips who passed 1874 could be. Philps/ Phelps and his sister Sabra were born Meare Somerset 1810 for him and 1817 for her Sabra married 1841 Bristol to George Court who has long vanished She died 1901 Melbourne errrrrr I think its the man I am looking for Please humour me I am not well waiting to go into hospital This Phelps / Philips has had me going around in circles for a long time If its the guy does Trove have anything I looked If this Phili[s was convicted of whatever as I cannot read the page to well but could make out Southampton long way from Somerset Put it this way many thanks for your help Think I will go and scream!! Elaine On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 10:03 PM Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Elaine > > Permission to Marry application here - > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-2p209 page 404 towards bottom. James > names > spelt a PHILLIPS and Sarah's name spelt as GRIFFITHS. 'Marquis of > Hastings' conduct record here - > https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-29$init=CON33-1-29p159 States became > constable 4/3/46 in remarks column. > > According to his convict record born circa 1811 but marriage certificate > puts it at 1814. Closest possibility to him might be the James PHILLIPS > dying in 1879 in Hobart - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD35-1-9p182j2k > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:43 PM Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Is there and index for this if so xould some one look up James Phelps > > or Philips I have a copy of his marriage to Sarah Giffin but need to > > know ship he came out to Tas one He was a Constable in the police > > force as he stated in the birth for his child and marriage nas I do > > not know what happened to him Sarah took her daughter to New Zealand > > when? do not know She married again 2 more times!! > > Thanks > > Elaine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community