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    1. [AUS-Tas] Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds
    2. Bill Piper
    3. In the 1830s, Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds/Kempton was occupied by Reverend Robert Drought and subsequently by his daughter Mrs Anne Gray or Giddings and the Giddings family. Does anyone know how they came to acquire the house? Did they have it built? Did they own it? Bill Piper --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    03/23/2019 03:35:22
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds
    2. Peter Oakley
    3. Hi Bill, Doesn't appear to be a lot of readily available detail about Waltham Abbey at Green Ponds. In an article in 'The Colonist" from 1890 there is a description of the house and that it was so named because it belonged to a Mr Waltham - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201179182?searchTerm=%22Waltham%20abbey%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania|||l-decade=189 <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201179182?searchTerm=%22Waltham%20abbey%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania%7C%7C%7Cl-decade=189> There's an article from 1821 relating to Waltham having property at Green Water Ponds - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1089604?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1089604?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> Assignment list from 1833 names a James Waltham at Green Ponds - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84775724?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/84775724?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> Mention of a property once owned by James Waltham in 1841 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2955265?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2955265?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> In 1847 mention of property once located to James Waltham but now occupied or belonging to - GREY... Could this be the Mrs Ann Gray you mention, daughter of Rev. Drought ? Waltham Abbey is up to be let in 1852 lately being occupied by the Re. Mr Bryan. - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062775?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/173062775?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> Waltham Abbey is said to be on 40 acres so this is probably it again in 1856 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3337512?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3337512?searchTerm=%22Waltham%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> As to the man that Waltham Abbey belonged to. John Waltham was a convict from the '"Calcutta" in 1803 and who arrived with the first settlers to Tasmania in 1804. Seems to have done alright by himself as evidenced by having land grants in 1821. From the LSD index I have a copy of he was asking for another grant in 1828. Mention of him being a farmer in the Green Ponds district. Can't work out any dates when he may have sold on Waltham Abbey but he was still living in the Gren Ponds area up until his death in 1842 - https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-2p055j2k His wife Jane passed just a short time later. There are Wills for both of them oonline to view. In 1833 and 1834 there are some advertisements for the auction of a farm occupied by the Reverend Drought - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4190017?searchTerm=%22Rev%20Drought%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4190017?searchTerm=%22Rev%20Drought%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> and https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4190017?searchTerm=%22Rev%20Drought%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc|||l-state=Tasmania <https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4190017?searchTerm=%22Rev%20Drought%22&searchLimits=sortby=dateAsc%7C%7C%7Cl-state=Tasmania> The number of acres in the 1834 advertisement says 40 acres (30 in earlier) so I wonder if this is Weltham Abbey they are referring to? If it was sold at this date then the buyer were probably John Beaumont and Robert Pitcairn ( although John Beaumont was the Sherriff ?) as shown in the 1841 advertisements. The Reverend Mr Drought died in 1836 sor families o if his daughter Mrs Ann Gray or Giddings lived on there I suspect it may have been under a lease arrangement or rental. Its also interesting to note that in 1852 another Clergyman is also living there, the Rev. Bryan. I wonder if the owners of the property had a long term agreement with the church for their clergy to reside there? Just a possibility? Anyway a few ideas to contemplate? Cheers, Peter On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 8:35 PM Bill Piper <bill@kellaway.info> wrote: > In the 1830s, Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds/Kempton was occupied by > Reverend Robert Drought and subsequently by his daughter Mrs Anne Gray > or Giddings and the Giddings family. Does anyone know how they came to > acquire the house? Did they have it built? Did they own it? > Bill Piper > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    03/23/2019 07:32:41
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds
    2. Robin & Jim Gray
    3. Hello Bill I have a small booklet “A History of Green Ponds 1862-1987” by T R MacLeod. There are two references to Waltham Abbey - "Some of the earliest nominees for grants did not stay in the district very long, but of those who came to settle dow were the …….. Mr John Waltham at Waltham Abbey …..” The second reference “ There were several private schools in Kempton, one the the earliest being conducted by Canon Kemise, a retired Church of England clergyman, at “Waltham Abbey”, and who is remembered as a landscape painter of some merit. My Wicks family lived in Green Ponds/Kempton hence my interest in this booklet. Cheers Robin Gray > On 23 Mar 2019, at 8:35 PM, Bill Piper <bill@kellaway.info> wrote: > > In the 1830s, Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds/Kempton was occupied by Reverend Robert Drought and subsequently by his daughter Mrs Anne Gray or Giddings and the Giddings family. Does anyone know how they came to acquire the house? Did they have it built? Did they own it? > Bill Piper > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/23/2019 07:59:48
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds
    2. Edie McArthur
    3. The Walthams probably named their home Waltham Abbey after the Historical Saxon church 610ad in Essex. B een there and some others of yo may have been also. Grave of King Harold is there. Edie https://www.britainexpress.com/counties/essex/churches/waltham-abbey.htm On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 1:00 PM Robin & Jim Gray <gray-robjim@westvic.com.au> wrote: > Hello Bill > > I have a small booklet “A History of Green Ponds 1862-1987” by T R MacLeod. > > There are two references to Waltham Abbey - "Some of the earliest > nominees for grants did not stay in the district very long, but of those > who came to settle dow were the …….. Mr John Waltham at Waltham Abbey …..” > > The second reference “ There were several private schools in Kempton, one > the the earliest being conducted by Canon Kemise, a retired Church of > England clergyman, at “Waltham Abbey”, and who is remembered as a landscape > painter of some merit. > > My Wicks family lived in Green Ponds/Kempton hence my interest in this > booklet. > > Cheers Robin Gray > > > > > > On 23 Mar 2019, at 8:35 PM, Bill Piper <bill@kellaway.info> wrote: > > > > In the 1830s, Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds/Kempton was occupied by > Reverend Robert Drought and subsequently by his daughter Mrs Anne Gray or > Giddings and the Giddings family. Does anyone know how they came to acquire > the house? Did they have it built? Did they own it? > > Bill Piper > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    03/23/2019 09:50:30
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re: Waltham Abbey in Green Ponds
    2. Peter Oakley
    3. Hi All, Going dotty...it wasn't John but James Waltham !! Seniors moment and need new bifocals... Peter > >

    03/24/2019 03:41:01