... (throw away line) if she was in circus we should be looking for LIONS !! Peter Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Jan 2015, at 8:19 pm, Betty Pilgrim <bettypilgrim@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Thanks Carol. I've come across a Miss Annie Lyons in Trove who was an actress and vocalist in Tasmania. She was married to Harry P Lyons who was a theatrical manager. Apart from theatre he managed circuses. Annie also performed in the circus. I know this is letting my imagination run riot but I can't help wondering if Annie, who was admitted to the orphanage as a neglected child, might have been their daughter. With them being at the theatre and travelling a lot it could easily be proven that a child of this union was neglected. Any thoughts? I can't find a record of Annie's maiden name but she obviously used the name 'Miss Annie Lyons' after she was married to Harry P Lyons. Harry P Lyons' obit says he was born in Hobart but can't find that either. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Brill [mailto:seebee.cazza@bigpond.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 6:05 PM > To: 'Betty Pilgrim'; 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons > > Sorry Betty - Rebecca Annie May Lyons died 26th August 1878 - she was listed as a printer's child in both certificates. > Sorry - I really thought I'd located your Annie Rebecca! > Carol Brill. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Pilgrim [mailto:bettypilgrim@bigpond.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 4:09 PM > To: 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons > > Thanks so much everybody for your responses. I am just working through them. I can see that I made a mistake with May Ellen Louisa Lyons. It is, as many of you said, a different name. I had thought it was a Lyons. Annie Rebecca is the same person who married John Newcombe and died at Tamworth in NSW. > > Her marriage registration shows that she was born in Hobart, Tasmania and a spinster aged 29. Her father was Tom Lyons (deceased) and her mother was Anna Rebecca Langdon (deceased). As we all know people who provide this information often make mistakes. I went through the baptisms for this period in the Catholic Church for an Annie Rebecca but couldn't turn her up. Annie had two children before she married John Newcombe - they were Daisy and Albert. I can't find anything about them either. > > I am not connected to this family but somebody has asked me to look for her as she has not been able to find anything for a number of years. On ancestry.com a family member from NZ says that her father always said they were related to Joe Lyons, ex PM. > > Thanks again everybody. > > Regards, Betty > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Brown via > Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 2:39 PM > To: Peter Oakley > Cc: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons > > You are brilliant Peter. Looks like the same child. Poor little girl Helen > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 6 Jan 2015, at 1:51 pm, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> In Bettys first post she identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being >> born on the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. >> >> In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly >> below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? >> with the same birth date as well? >> >> One in the same girl? >> >> She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - >> >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There >> is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - >> >> Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was >> sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father >> is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the >> application of Mr George Judge. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >>> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >>> being a neglected child. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >>> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again Betty, >>>> >>>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>>> >>>> >>>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>>> >>>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>>> >>>>> Is this your family?. >>>>> >>>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>>> Tamworth >>>>> >>>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>>> >>>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would be delighted if I can be helpIn Bettys first post she >>>>> identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being born on >> the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. >> >> In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly >> below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? >> with the same birth date as well? >> >> One in the same girl? >> >> She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - >> >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There >> is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - >> >> Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was >> sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father >> is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the >> application of Mr George Judge. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >>> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >>> being a neglected child. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >>> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi again Betty, >>>> >>>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>>> >>>> >>>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>>> >>>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>>> >>>>> Is this your family?. >>>>> >>>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>>> Tamworth >>>>> >>>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>>> >>>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would be delighted if I can be helped with the above named >>>>> person. She was supposedly born in Hobart on 2 September 1979. I >>>>> am trying to find out the names of her parents. I believe she had >>>>> a sister May Ellen Louisa Lyons who was born 29 September 1978. I >>>>> found that they were admitted to St Joseph's orphanage on 15 April >>>>> 1891 and another sister admitted on 2 January 1896. I went to the >>>>> Library in Hobart and checked baptism records but unable to find >>>>> any for the above named. On the death notice for Annie Rebecca >>>>> Newcombe (NSW) nee Lyons her mother was recorded as being Annie >>>>> Langdon. But I can't find any record of her either. On the >>>>> admission papers to St Joseph's Orphanage two admission case numbers are given: >>>>> for >>>>> Annie Lyons - No. 4189 and for May Lyons - No. 2901. >>>>> >>>>> I tried to phone St Josephs yesterday without success to try and >>>>> find out about the admission case numbers but they are closed until 13 January. >>>>> >>>>> Can somebody guide me please? >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type >> AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >