Thanks so much everybody for your responses. I am just working through them. I can see that I made a mistake with May Ellen Louisa Lyons. It is, as many of you said, a different name. I had thought it was a Lyons. Annie Rebecca is the same person who married John Newcombe and died at Tamworth in NSW. Her marriage registration shows that she was born in Hobart, Tasmania and a spinster aged 29. Her father was Tom Lyons (deceased) and her mother was Anna Rebecca Langdon (deceased). As we all know people who provide this information often make mistakes. I went through the baptisms for this period in the Catholic Church for an Annie Rebecca but couldn't turn her up. Annie had two children before she married John Newcombe - they were Daisy and Albert. I can't find anything about them either. I am not connected to this family but somebody has asked me to look for her as she has not been able to find anything for a number of years. On ancestry.com a family member from NZ says that her father always said they were related to Joe Lyons, ex PM. Thanks again everybody. Regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Brown via Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 2:39 PM To: Peter Oakley Cc: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons You are brilliant Peter. Looks like the same child. Poor little girl Helen Sent from my iPad > On 6 Jan 2015, at 1:51 pm, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > In Bettys first post she identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being > born on the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helpIn Bettys first post she >>>> identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being born on > the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helped with the above named >>>> person. She was supposedly born in Hobart on 2 September 1979. I >>>> am trying to find out the names of her parents. I believe she had >>>> a sister May Ellen Louisa Lyons who was born 29 September 1978. I >>>> found that they were admitted to St Joseph's orphanage on 15 April >>>> 1891 and another sister admitted on 2 January 1896. I went to the >>>> Library in Hobart and checked baptism records but unable to find >>>> any for the above named. On the death notice for Annie Rebecca >>>> Newcombe (NSW) nee Lyons her mother was recorded as being Annie >>>> Langdon. But I can't find any record of her either. On the >>>> admission papers to St Joseph's Orphanage two admission case numbers are given: >>>> for >>>> Annie Lyons - No. 4189 and for May Lyons - No. 2901. >>>> >>>> I tried to phone St Josephs yesterday without success to try and >>>> find out about the admission case numbers but they are closed until 13 January. >>>> >>>> Can somebody guide me please? >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Betty, I'm not sure whether anyone has found Annie Rebecca's birth yet, if so, I apologise for this duplication. Here she is, anyway: Name: Lyons, Rebecca Annie May Record Type: Births Father: Lyons, Name Not Recorded Mother: Godfrey, Sarah Ann Date of birth: 24 Jul 1873 Registered: Hobart Registration year: 1873 Document ID: NAME_INDEXES:975600 Resource: RGD33/1/10/ no 3480 I searched for "Annie Rebecca"only in the Linc name indexes. Best wishes, Carol Brill. PS There are several Lynskey deaths around the time your Annie was sent to the orphanage. Best wishes, Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Betty Pilgrim [mailto:bettypilgrim@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 4:09 PM To: 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons Thanks so much everybody for your responses. I am just working through them. I can see that I made a mistake with May Ellen Louisa Lyons. It is, as many of you said, a different name. I had thought it was a Lyons. Annie Rebecca is the same person who married John Newcombe and died at Tamworth in NSW. Her marriage registration shows that she was born in Hobart, Tasmania and a spinster aged 29. Her father was Tom Lyons (deceased) and her mother was Anna Rebecca Langdon (deceased). As we all know people who provide this information often make mistakes. I went through the baptisms for this period in the Catholic Church for an Annie Rebecca but couldn't turn her up. Annie had two children before she married John Newcombe - they were Daisy and Albert. I can't find anything about them either. I am not connected to this family but somebody has asked me to look for her as she has not been able to find anything for a number of years. On ancestry.com a family member from NZ says that her father always said they were related to Joe Lyons, ex PM. Thanks again everybody. Regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Brown via Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 2:39 PM To: Peter Oakley Cc: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons You are brilliant Peter. Looks like the same child. Poor little girl Helen Sent from my iPad > On 6 Jan 2015, at 1:51 pm, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > In Bettys first post she identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being > born on the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helpIn Bettys first post she >>>> identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being born on > the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helped with the above named >>>> person. She was supposedly born in Hobart on 2 September 1979. I >>>> am trying to find out the names of her parents. I believe she had >>>> a sister May Ellen Louisa Lyons who was born 29 September 1978. I >>>> found that they were admitted to St Joseph's orphanage on 15 April >>>> 1891 and another sister admitted on 2 January 1896. I went to the >>>> Library in Hobart and checked baptism records but unable to find >>>> any for the above named. On the death notice for Annie Rebecca >>>> Newcombe (NSW) nee Lyons her mother was recorded as being Annie >>>> Langdon. But I can't find any record of her either. On the >>>> admission papers to St Joseph's Orphanage two admission case numbers are given: >>>> for >>>> Annie Lyons - No. 4189 and for May Lyons - No. 2901. >>>> >>>> I tried to phone St Josephs yesterday without success to try and >>>> find out about the admission case numbers but they are closed until 13 January. >>>> >>>> Can somebody guide me please? >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Betty - Rebecca Annie May Lyons died 26th August 1878 - she was listed as a printer's child in both certificates. Sorry - I really thought I'd located your Annie Rebecca! Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Betty Pilgrim [mailto:bettypilgrim@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 4:09 PM To: 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons Thanks so much everybody for your responses. I am just working through them. I can see that I made a mistake with May Ellen Louisa Lyons. It is, as many of you said, a different name. I had thought it was a Lyons. Annie Rebecca is the same person who married John Newcombe and died at Tamworth in NSW. Her marriage registration shows that she was born in Hobart, Tasmania and a spinster aged 29. Her father was Tom Lyons (deceased) and her mother was Anna Rebecca Langdon (deceased). As we all know people who provide this information often make mistakes. I went through the baptisms for this period in the Catholic Church for an Annie Rebecca but couldn't turn her up. Annie had two children before she married John Newcombe - they were Daisy and Albert. I can't find anything about them either. I am not connected to this family but somebody has asked me to look for her as she has not been able to find anything for a number of years. On ancestry.com a family member from NZ says that her father always said they were related to Joe Lyons, ex PM. Thanks again everybody. Regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Brown via Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 2:39 PM To: Peter Oakley Cc: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons You are brilliant Peter. Looks like the same child. Poor little girl Helen Sent from my iPad > On 6 Jan 2015, at 1:51 pm, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > In Bettys first post she identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being > born on the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helpIn Bettys first post she >>>> identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being born on > the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helped with the above named >>>> person. She was supposedly born in Hobart on 2 September 1979. I >>>> am trying to find out the names of her parents. I believe she had >>>> a sister May Ellen Louisa Lyons who was born 29 September 1978. I >>>> found that they were admitted to St Joseph's orphanage on 15 April >>>> 1891 and another sister admitted on 2 January 1896. I went to the >>>> Library in Hobart and checked baptism records but unable to find >>>> any for the above named. On the death notice for Annie Rebecca >>>> Newcombe (NSW) nee Lyons her mother was recorded as being Annie >>>> Langdon. But I can't find any record of her either. On the >>>> admission papers to St Joseph's Orphanage two admission case numbers are given: >>>> for >>>> Annie Lyons - No. 4189 and for May Lyons - No. 2901. >>>> >>>> I tried to phone St Josephs yesterday without success to try and >>>> find out about the admission case numbers but they are closed until 13 January. >>>> >>>> Can somebody guide me please? >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Carol. I've come across a Miss Annie Lyons in Trove who was an actress and vocalist in Tasmania. She was married to Harry P Lyons who was a theatrical manager. Apart from theatre he managed circuses. Annie also performed in the circus. I know this is letting my imagination run riot but I can't help wondering if Annie, who was admitted to the orphanage as a neglected child, might have been their daughter. With them being at the theatre and travelling a lot it could easily be proven that a child of this union was neglected. Any thoughts? I can't find a record of Annie's maiden name but she obviously used the name 'Miss Annie Lyons' after she was married to Harry P Lyons. Harry P Lyons' obit says he was born in Hobart but can't find that either. -----Original Message----- From: Carol Brill [mailto:seebee.cazza@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 6:05 PM To: 'Betty Pilgrim'; 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons Sorry Betty - Rebecca Annie May Lyons died 26th August 1878 - she was listed as a printer's child in both certificates. Sorry - I really thought I'd located your Annie Rebecca! Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Betty Pilgrim [mailto:bettypilgrim@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 4:09 PM To: 'Helen Brown'; 'Peter Oakley'; AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons Thanks so much everybody for your responses. I am just working through them. I can see that I made a mistake with May Ellen Louisa Lyons. It is, as many of you said, a different name. I had thought it was a Lyons. Annie Rebecca is the same person who married John Newcombe and died at Tamworth in NSW. Her marriage registration shows that she was born in Hobart, Tasmania and a spinster aged 29. Her father was Tom Lyons (deceased) and her mother was Anna Rebecca Langdon (deceased). As we all know people who provide this information often make mistakes. I went through the baptisms for this period in the Catholic Church for an Annie Rebecca but couldn't turn her up. Annie had two children before she married John Newcombe - they were Daisy and Albert. I can't find anything about them either. I am not connected to this family but somebody has asked me to look for her as she has not been able to find anything for a number of years. On ancestry.com a family member from NZ says that her father always said they were related to Joe Lyons, ex PM. Thanks again everybody. Regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Brown via Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 2:39 PM To: Peter Oakley Cc: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons You are brilliant Peter. Looks like the same child. Poor little girl Helen Sent from my iPad > On 6 Jan 2015, at 1:51 pm, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > In Bettys first post she identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being > born on the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helpIn Bettys first post she >>>> identifies May ELLEN LOUISA Lyons as being born on > the 29 September 1878 with a case number 2901. > > In the online St Joseph's Orphanage details I found, the girl directly > below Annie Lyons is ELLEN LOUISA Lynskey with same case number 2901 ? > with the same birth date as well? > > One in the same girl? > > She's recorded here like Annie Lyons in the Hobart LC records - > > http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37 page 95 towards the bottom. There > is a small piece in the "Tasmanian News", 24 April 1891 that goes - > > Provided For.—A child named Ellen Louisa Lynskey, aged 12 years, was > sent to St.‘ Joseph’s Orphanage for a-period of four years. Her father > is dead and the mother cannot be found. The order was made on the > application of Mr George Judge. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Definitely Tasmanian born....Hobart lower court top of page 89 - >> http://stors.tas.gov.au/LC247-1-37...being placed in St Joseph's for >> being a neglected child. >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Peter Oakley >> <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi again Betty, >>> >>> If Annie Rebecca Newcombe is the one that died at Quirindi NSW in >>> 1951 her parents names recorded on the online NSW BDM death index >>> are Tom and Anna Rebecca... >>> >>> >>> Is this the right Annie Newcombe? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jessie Dominy via < >>> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "... She was supposedly born in Hobart ......" >>>> >>>> What is your source for birth in Tasmania please? >>>> >>>> Is this your family?. >>>> >>>> BDM NSW 11468 / 1914 LYONS R Annie x John P NEWCOMBE >>>> Tamworth >>>> >>>> You need to see a marriage certificate. It will be more credible >>>> than details given on death certificate years later by.....? >>>> >>>> Marriage certificate will have details given by >>>> Annie...........age, birth place, names of parents, father's >>>> occupation and names of witnesses, who might be close family. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Betty Pilgrim via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015, 10:12 >>>> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Annie Rebecca Lyons >>>> >>>> >>>> I would be delighted if I can be helped with the above named >>>> person. She was supposedly born in Hobart on 2 September 1979. I >>>> am trying to find out the names of her parents. I believe she had >>>> a sister May Ellen Louisa Lyons who was born 29 September 1978. I >>>> found that they were admitted to St Joseph's orphanage on 15 April >>>> 1891 and another sister admitted on 2 January 1896. I went to the >>>> Library in Hobart and checked baptism records but unable to find >>>> any for the above named. On the death notice for Annie Rebecca >>>> Newcombe (NSW) nee Lyons her mother was recorded as being Annie >>>> Langdon. But I can't find any record of her either. On the >>>> admission papers to St Joseph's Orphanage two admission case numbers are given: >>>> for >>>> Annie Lyons - No. 4189 and for May Lyons - No. 2901. >>>> >>>> I tried to phone St Josephs yesterday without success to try and >>>> find out about the admission case numbers but they are closed until 13 January. >>>> >>>> Can somebody guide me please? >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive >>>> (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >>>> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message