Dear Chris, Thank you so much. This is definitely a mystery. Frances White was christened Fanny, however when she has her first son her name is Frances. So I am not sure if she travelled under the name of Fanny or Frances and of course White is such a common name. Cheers Karen -----Original Message----- From: Chris Ward [mailto:ceejay@outlook.com.au] Sent: 24 April 2019 10:14 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 G'day Karen, The Royal Admiral departed London on 7 September 1840 and arrived in Adelaide on 13 December 1840. One of the passengers is listed as WAITE (sic) Frances (w). This looks promising. The (w) indicates a widow which may have suited her purposes. The age doesn't fit with what you have but I pass this on for what it might be worth Regards Chris - Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 9:25 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Meryl, Thank you so much for replying - you are always so supportive. This is what I have from the Destitute Asylum Records 1913 for Fanny (Frances) White. She states her birth place as Chichester, Sussex - this is correct and is verified with her christening information. She was born in 1829. I believe she travelled to Australia with her younger sister Charlotte who was born in 1831. Fanny states she arrived in South Australia in 1847 - a birth record of a son George to George Parker is registered in South Australia for that year. Fanny states she arrived on the Royal Admiral - given that the other information seems to be correct I am searching this ship as being the only clue at this point. I understand children were not always identified. On the 1842 voyage there are three women with the surname "White" but none match the location of our White family, unfortunately. I think their father James White was transported to NSW in 1832 for stealing - he was on board the Lady Harewood. It is interesting as from 1832 to 1847 in England there is no sign of their mother Sarah or the girls. If this James is their father - and there is a reasonable chance?? - his wife and daughters may have ended up in the poor house. The only other avenue are the female factories, I don't know if the maids/servants were recorded in the early settlements. I have searched all the Royal Admiral published lists - one research paper suggested that the original manifests may include additional names. I don't know if anyone has had the opportunity to uncover such documents or where to go to find them. Cheers - and great hearing from you Regards Karen -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost [mailto:merylp@tasfamily.net.au] Sent: 24 April 2019 09:24 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Karen, Tasmanian Archives has the report of the arrival of the Royal Admiral in 1842 which states how many convict women and names passengers but not with the surname you are looking for: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstors.tas. gov.au%2FCSO92-1-9p60jpg&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c8472 9ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315606031&amp;sdat a=h5dK5CBGNbOUDCZWORkf8tHmuIo03y%2BwbR8kFZyCj0I%3D&amp;reserved=0 Convict women quite often brought their children with them but I cannot find Sarah Forester/White on the Royal Admiral as a convict. Is it possible that the girls came on a different voyage of the Royal Admiral that may have arrived elsewhere in Australia? There was an arrival of the Royal Admiral in South Australia with emigrants in 1840: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au% 2Fnla.news-article71620511&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c84 729ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315616036&amp;sd ata=TYfMBDPjT84LGMYJnC5%2F%2B802CBfw8EhqxjAopldwHjk%3D&amp;reserved=0 Another in 1838 with passengers: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au% 2Fnla.news-article31749779&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c84 729ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315616036&amp;sd ata=eHyWPwJ%2F%2FYqhGCtoC8ykFI3jdrcfEyoFf%2BF24ZKB3Ic%3D&amp;reserved=0 Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 8:20 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Good Day Everyone, Can anyone please advise me where I might find the original passenger ship manifests? I am researching the Royal Admiral 1842 voyage of convict women. According to my research so far the number of women identified is about 204 but another resource suggested there were more and that the original manifest would have those names. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. 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Hi Karen, Thank you. 8-) Might be worthwhile checking the other convict voyages of the Royal Admiral as well. https://convictrecords.com.au/ships/royal-admiral Your quest is a very difficult one. Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 9:55 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Meryl, Thank you so much for replying - you are always so supportive. This is what I have from the Destitute Asylum Records 1913 for Fanny (Frances) White. She states her birth place as Chichester, Sussex - this is correct and is verified with her christening information. She was born in 1829. I believe she travelled to Australia with her younger sister Charlotte who was born in 1831. Fanny states she arrived in South Australia in 1847 - a birth record of a son George to George Parker is registered in South Australia for that year. Fanny states she arrived on the Royal Admiral - given that the other information seems to be correct I am searching this ship as being the only clue at this point. I understand children were not always identified. On the 1842 voyage there are three women with the surname "White" but none match the location of our White family, unfortunately. I think their father James White was transported to NSW in 1832 for stealing - he was on board the Lady Harewood. It is interesting as from 1832 to 1847 in England there is no sign of their mother Sarah or the girls. If this James is their father - and there is a reasonable chance?? - his wife and daughters may have ended up in the poor house. The only other avenue are the female factories, I don't know if the maids/servants were recorded in the early settlements. I have searched all the Royal Admiral published lists - one research paper suggested that the original manifests may include additional names. I don't know if anyone has had the opportunity to uncover such documents or where to go to find them. Cheers - and great hearing from you Regards Karen

G'day Karen, The Royal Admiral departed London on 7 September 1840 and arrived in Adelaide on 13 December 1840. One of the passengers is listed as WAITE (sic) Frances (w). This looks promising. The (w) indicates a widow which may have suited her purposes. The age doesn't fit with what you have but I pass this on for what it might be worth Regards Chris - Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 9:25 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Meryl, Thank you so much for replying - you are always so supportive. This is what I have from the Destitute Asylum Records 1913 for Fanny (Frances) White. She states her birth place as Chichester, Sussex - this is correct and is verified with her christening information. She was born in 1829. I believe she travelled to Australia with her younger sister Charlotte who was born in 1831. Fanny states she arrived in South Australia in 1847 - a birth record of a son George to George Parker is registered in South Australia for that year. Fanny states she arrived on the Royal Admiral - given that the other information seems to be correct I am searching this ship as being the only clue at this point. I understand children were not always identified. On the 1842 voyage there are three women with the surname "White" but none match the location of our White family, unfortunately. I think their father James White was transported to NSW in 1832 for stealing - he was on board the Lady Harewood. It is interesting as from 1832 to 1847 in England there is no sign of their mother Sarah or the girls. If this James is their father - and there is a reasonable chance?? - his wife and daughters may have ended up in the poor house. The only other avenue are the female factories, I don't know if the maids/servants were recorded in the early settlements. I have searched all the Royal Admiral published lists - one research paper suggested that the original manifests may include additional names. I don't know if anyone has had the opportunity to uncover such documents or where to go to find them. Cheers - and great hearing from you Regards Karen -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost [mailto:merylp@tasfamily.net.au] Sent: 24 April 2019 09:24 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Karen, Tasmanian Archives has the report of the arrival of the Royal Admiral in 1842 which states how many convict women and names passengers but not with the surname you are looking for: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstors.tas.gov.au%2FCSO92-1-9p60jpg&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c84729ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315606031&amp;sdata=h5dK5CBGNbOUDCZWORkf8tHmuIo03y%2BwbR8kFZyCj0I%3D&amp;reserved=0 Convict women quite often brought their children with them but I cannot find Sarah Forester/White on the Royal Admiral as a convict. Is it possible that the girls came on a different voyage of the Royal Admiral that may have arrived elsewhere in Australia? There was an arrival of the Royal Admiral in South Australia with emigrants in 1840: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au%2Fnla.news-article71620511&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c84729ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315616036&amp;sdata=TYfMBDPjT84LGMYJnC5%2F%2B802CBfw8EhqxjAopldwHjk%3D&amp;reserved=0 Another in 1838 with passengers: https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au%2Fnla.news-article31749779&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C2a01d577f23a4234e77408d6c84729ed%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636916605315616036&amp;sdata=eHyWPwJ%2F%2FYqhGCtoC8ykFI3jdrcfEyoFf%2BF24ZKB3Ic%3D&amp;reserved=0 Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 8:20 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Good Day Everyone, Can anyone please advise me where I might find the original passenger ship manifests? I am researching the Royal Admiral 1842 voyage of convict women. According to my research so far the number of women identified is about 204 but another resource suggested there were more and that the original manifest would have those names. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. 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Hi Meryl, Thank you so much for replying - you are always so supportive. This is what I have from the Destitute Asylum Records 1913 for Fanny (Frances) White. She states her birth place as Chichester, Sussex - this is correct and is verified with her christening information. She was born in 1829. I believe she travelled to Australia with her younger sister Charlotte who was born in 1831. Fanny states she arrived in South Australia in 1847 - a birth record of a son George to George Parker is registered in South Australia for that year. Fanny states she arrived on the Royal Admiral - given that the other information seems to be correct I am searching this ship as being the only clue at this point. I understand children were not always identified. On the 1842 voyage there are three women with the surname "White" but none match the location of our White family, unfortunately. I think their father James White was transported to NSW in 1832 for stealing - he was on board the Lady Harewood. It is interesting as from 1832 to 1847 in England there is no sign of their mother Sarah or the girls. If this James is their father - and there is a reasonable chance?? - his wife and daughters may have ended up in the poor house. The only other avenue are the female factories, I don't know if the maids/servants were recorded in the early settlements. I have searched all the Royal Admiral published lists - one research paper suggested that the original manifests may include additional names. I don't know if anyone has had the opportunity to uncover such documents or where to go to find them. Cheers - and great hearing from you Regards Karen -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost [mailto:merylp@tasfamily.net.au] Sent: 24 April 2019 09:24 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Hi Karen, Tasmanian Archives has the report of the arrival of the Royal Admiral in 1842 which states how many convict women and names passengers but not with the surname you are looking for: https://stors.tas.gov.au/CSO92-1-9p60jpg Convict women quite often brought their children with them but I cannot find Sarah Forester/White on the Royal Admiral as a convict. Is it possible that the girls came on a different voyage of the Royal Admiral that may have arrived elsewhere in Australia? There was an arrival of the Royal Admiral in South Australia with emigrants in 1840: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71620511 Another in 1838 with passengers: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article31749779 Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 8:20 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Good Day Everyone, Can anyone please advise me where I might find the original passenger ship manifests? I am researching the Royal Admiral 1842 voyage of convict women. According to my research so far the number of women identified is about 204 but another resource suggested there were more and that the original manifest would have those names. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Karen Kestigian _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Karen, Tasmanian Archives has the report of the arrival of the Royal Admiral in 1842 which states how many convict women and names passengers but not with the surname you are looking for: https://stors.tas.gov.au/CSO92-1-9p60jpg Convict women quite often brought their children with them but I cannot find Sarah Forester/White on the Royal Admiral as a convict. Is it possible that the girls came on a different voyage of the Royal Admiral that may have arrived elsewhere in Australia? There was an arrival of the Royal Admiral in South Australia with emigrants in 1840: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71620511 Another in 1838 with passengers: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article31749779 Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: K Market Associates <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, 24 April 2019 8:20 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Passenger Lists The Royal Admiral 1842 Good Day Everyone, Can anyone please advise me where I might find the original passenger ship manifests? I am researching the Royal Admiral 1842 voyage of convict women. According to my research so far the number of women identified is about 204 but another resource suggested there were more and that the original manifest would have those names. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Karen Kestigian

Today's Topics: 1. Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions (Chris Kealy) Hello Chris and Listers We have been "off the air" for 7 days with an NBN failure but this time it was the old copper line coming in from the pit to the old line box on the outside of our home - we are FTTC. No phones, no internet!!! I have only just been going through emails and located Chris' enquiry. I have VMware Workstation 10.0 that I purchased before XP was retired and I started using Windows 7. I have internet access on the XP part on VMware and access to my folders that are sitting under the W7 program. This is all linked. The information for the Devices are: Memory 2GB, Processors 1, Hard Disk (IDE) 200GB, CD?DVD (IDE) Auto detect, Network Adapter NAT, USB Controller Present, Sound Card Auto detect, Printer Present, Display Auto detect. I have also free AVG Antivirus on the XP part with basic protection. So whilst it is a Virtual Machine program it still gives access to all that is under W7. I can also switch between XP and W7 which holds my Legacy genealogy program. Shared folders comes through my Documents under my user name so I have access to all folders on W7 even though I am in XP on the virtual machine. I can save the information from the Virtual Machine directly to these folders. My next foray into the Virtual Machine area will be when W7 ceases in early 2020. I will end up having to get W10 on the computer and then run W7 and XP through the virtual machine. At this stage I do not know if I have to purchase an updated version of VMware. In regard to slow speed there is none that I have found when going between the two programs. My W7 protection has its own, Malwarebytes and Vipre. My computer was built by our local computer specialist to my own specifications on what I wanted, even to the extent that it does a nightly backup of the computer to an external hard drive should anything go awry. Have a look at what VMware offers and also the other virtual machine programs that can run on your computer, discuss it with your computer technician and see what best suits you. Cheers Judi

Good Day Everyone, Can anyone please advise me where I might find the original passenger ship manifests? I am researching the Royal Admiral 1842 voyage of convict women. According to my research so far the number of women identified is about 204 but another resource suggested there were more and that the original manifest would have those names. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Karen Kestigian

A lovely story for Anzac Day.  Lest we forget. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/wwi-diary-returned-to-tasmanian-soldiers-family-102-years-after-going-missing/ar-BBWdIJ8?ocid=spartanntp

My technician knew all about the problem and installed the old 16 bit/readable by 32 bit as an overlay over the top of the 64 bit current windows. Harvey Normjan et al do not do it as it takes an extra few hours. But now the Windows I have as the basic operating system needs to be replaced by "?christmas and I do not know what will happen then. Maybe the old stand alone computer might be the go and a "new" version to connect etc to the internet. OR - I guess you could just use your smartphone for internet etc . I prefer not to do that and live in the past - about 10 years past! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: barbara wells [mailto:barbara_mackinno@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 11:00 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi, I would also like to know how this works please Barb ________________________________ From: Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 12:50 AM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer playable. While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was mentioned. Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea how it does. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris In Melbourne _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Lyn and all who have contributed to my post. Thank you for your input. I now have a good idea of what's involved, and look forward to this materialising some time in May. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:chedoona@beagle.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 5:13 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions No trouble here either Chris (2years) and I don't have VM aware installed. I gave a clever grandson :-) Cheers Lyn _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On 23/04/2019 3:03 pm, aus-tasmania-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other i use   programme called BDM Revival written by someone called Peppermint Fence, which sadly is now defunct. All  Digger discs are now readable in Win 10. Dianne

No trouble here either Chris (2years) and I don't have VM aware installed. I gave a clever grandson :-) Cheers Lyn

Yes, If using VMware, Virtual Machine Settings, Network Adaptor On 23/04/2019 3:54 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > With regard to the virtual drive not accessing the internet, i imagine this > could be prevented by my computer man. The reason for a new computer was > driven by the lack of security for XP. > Thanks to both Ray and Mike for their technical advice. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 3:33 PM > To: Chris Kealy; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non > commercial use. > > That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of > Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the > virtual (32 Bit) PC. > > If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the > laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each > CD run from within the folder/folders. > > If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be > best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security > fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. > > Regards > > Ray > > > On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: >> Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro > disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. >> I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've > understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and > from there the Digger disks can be installed. >> Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i > copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save > to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. >> Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. >> Regards >> Chris >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] >> Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM >> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of >> Windows, even back in XP etc. >> >> Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows >> installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger >> amounts of memory etc. >> >> One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit >> version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in >> that "virtual" PC. >> >> One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" >> facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. >> >> I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. >> >> You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more >> "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard >> drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer >> memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, >> access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and >> memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared >> from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives >> and printers etc. >> >> You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I >> have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit >> installed in the virtual PC using VMware. >> >> There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial >> use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I >> purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual >> PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased >> support for XP some years ago I updated. >> >> You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the >> Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. >> >> If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 >> Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the >> free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows >> it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install >> the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. >> >> In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the >> installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and >> remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible >> damage to the discs when handling them. >> >> Regards >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> >> On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >>> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >>> >>> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the > old >>> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >>> playable. >>> >>> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but > the >>> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >>> >>> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory > was >>> mentioned. >>> >>> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be > able >>> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >>> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no > idea >>> how it does. >>> >>> Thanking you in anticipation. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> In Melbourne >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > >

With regard to the virtual drive not accessing the internet, i imagine this could be prevented by my computer man. The reason for a new computer was driven by the lack of security for XP. Thanks to both Ray and Mike for their technical advice. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 3:33 PM To: Chris Kealy; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non commercial use. That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the virtual (32 Bit) PC. If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each CD run from within the folder/folders. If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. > I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. > Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. > Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. > Regards > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of > Windows, even back in XP etc. > > Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows > installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger > amounts of memory etc. > > One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit > version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in > that "virtual" PC. > > One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" > facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. > > I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. > > You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more > "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard > drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer > memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, > access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and > memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared > from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives > and printers etc. > > You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I > have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit > installed in the virtual PC using VMware. > > There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial > use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I > purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual > PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased > support for XP some years ago I updated. > > You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the > Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. > > If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 > Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the > free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows > it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install > the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. > > In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the > installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and > remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible > damage to the discs when handling them. > > Regards > > Ray > > > > > On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >> >> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old >> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >> playable. >> >> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the >> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >> >> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was >> mentioned. >> >> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able >> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea >> how it does. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> Chris >> >> In Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Chris, I checked today and there is still the VMware Player free for non commercial use. That's correct, once a virtual PC is created using a 32 Bit version of Windows as the operating system, the Diger CDs are then installed in the virtual (32 Bit) PC. If you have the Digger CDs copied into a folder or folders on the laptop, they can be copied to the virtual PC and the installer for each CD run from within the folder/folders. If you use the Windows XP 32 Bit CD to create the virtual PC it would be best not to allow the virtual PC to access the internet as security fixes etc. have not been updated for XP for years. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 3:09 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. > I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. > Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. > Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. > Regards > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions > > Hi Chris, > > As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of > Windows, even back in XP etc. > > Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows > installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger > amounts of memory etc. > > One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit > version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in > that "virtual" PC. > > One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" > facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. > > I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. > > You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more > "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard > drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer > memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, > access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and > memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared > from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives > and printers etc. > > You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I > have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit > installed in the virtual PC using VMware. > > There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial > use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I > purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual > PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased > support for XP some years ago I updated. > > You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the > Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. > > If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 > Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the > free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows > it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install > the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. > > In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the > installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and > remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible > damage to the discs when handling them. > > Regards > > Ray > > > > > On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: >> This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. >> >> Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old >> computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer >> playable. >> >> While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the >> laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. >> >> Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was >> mentioned. >> >> Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able >> to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of >> going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea >> how it does. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> Chris >> >> In Melbourne >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > >

Hi Ray, thank you for your reply. I still have the original Windows XP pro disc which I believe is 32 bit and which will work with the virtual drive. I'm going to ask my computer man to install the virtual drive, and if I've understood correctly, windows XP is then loaded onto this virtual drive and from there the Digger disks can be installed. Just to double check Ray...on my laptop where I run the digger disks, do i copy all the files in the digger folder to say a USB which I could then save to my new computer and then install into the virtual drive. Hoping I've comprehended the various processes. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Ray Hayes [mailto:rayhayes@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2019 2:20 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com; Chris Kealy Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Digger disks and virtual memory or other solutions Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC. It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer. The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory. It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC. I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while. I use the paid version. I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost. If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old > computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the > laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was > mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able > to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of > going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea > how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It has nothing to do with virtual memory. Virtual memory has been part Windows since 1995 (Win 95 & Win NT). All recent windows (XP, 7, 8, 10) are evolved from NT. If you are running the app from a hard drive or flash drive, right click on the *.exe file, select the "Compatibility" tab, and select the appropriate XP option. See attached screen snag for an example. If you are running the app directly from the CD-ROM drive, you will have to copy the *.exe file to writable media (hard/flash/thumb drive) to change the compatibility mode. If the Digger software allows you to navigate to a file, it should work. If it expects the data to be in a certain location relative to the *.exe file, you will have to copy the entire CD-ROM to writable medium. I would suggest using a flash drive, since you can reproduce the exact file hierarchy that is on the CD-ROM. And a caveat: Sometime people "copy protect" their software so that it can try to detect if it not in its original environment. If that happens you will need to burn it back to a new CD-ROM or DVD and try to make it look as much like the original CD-ROM as possible (same names, label, file hierarchy). It might or might not work. Mike On Mon, April 22, 2019 7:50 pm, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the > old computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > (snipped)

Oracle VM VirtualBox. Cheers Lyn VIC My grandson also installed this on my computer and it really does work. Cheers Lyn VIC _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

My grandson also installed this on my computer and it really does work. Cheers Lyn VIC

Hi Chris, As you stated, the Digger discs will not work in 64 Bit versions of Windows, even back in XP etc. Most more recent computers come with 64 Bit versions of Windows installed, which has advantages including being able to use larger amounts of memory etc. One option to use the Digger discs is to install a separate 32 Bit version of Windows in a "virtual" PC and install the Digger discs in that "virtual" PC. One of the older versions of Windows used to include a "virtual PC" facility but I don't think they have done so for some years now. I use a program called VMware Workstation Player. You install that on your PC.  It then allows you to install one or more "virtual" PCs on your computer.  The "virtual" PC uses part of your hard drive just like any version of Windows, and uses part of your computer memory.  It can also access folders and files that are shared to it, access the internet, printers etc. The amount of hard drive space and memory used can be changed in the VMware settings, as can folders shared from the "Host" PC, and access to other devices including disc drives and printers etc. You need to have a Windows 32 Bit disc to install the "virtual" PC.  I have Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit on my computer, but have Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit installed in the virtual PC using VMware. There is or was a free version of VMware available for non commercial use, I haven't checked for a while.  I use the paid version.  I purchased a download version of Windows 32 Bit to install in the virtual PC (I originally used an old Windows XP 32 Bit but when Microsoft ceased support for XP some years ago I updated. You can copy search results from the virtual PC to the host PC via the Windows clipboard, or save documents etc. to folders on the host PC. If you purchase the paid version of VMware, and need to purchase a 32 Bit version of Windows there is obviously some cost.  If you can use the free version, and already have a disc with a 32 Bit version of Windows it will only require an investment of time to install VMware and install the 32 Bit version of Windows in a virtual PC. In my case I copied the Digger discs to folders on the PC, then ran the installers from the folders, so I don't have to physically insert and remove the various discs all the time, much quicker and avoids possible damage to the discs when handling them. Regards Ray On 23/04/2019 10:50 am, Chris Kealy wrote: > This post might be slightly off subject but it does relate to research. > > Like many other listers, I have a selection of Digger disks and when the old > computer was replaced with Windows 7 64 bit, the disks are no longer > playable. > > While I have an old laptop with XP, I can still search on the disks but the > laptop is so slow, I am looking for a better solution. > > Some years ago this subject was raised and discussed, and virtual memory was > mentioned. > > Would those listers who have installed virtual memory with Windows, be able > to contact me please as I would like to understand the ins and outs of > going down the virtual memory path. I accept that it works but have no idea > how it does. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >