Thankyou Ione, with all the help I have had I am now finding notices that I have been trying to find for ages. I should have asked this wonderful list earlier instead of plodding along like I have been doing:-) Cheers Lyn

Thank you Maree. Very interesting. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Maree Ring [mailto:mareering@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 10:48 PM To: TASMANIA ROOTSWEB Subject: [AUS-Tas] Convict literacy. Hi all, I was able to attend the Female Convict Research Centre seminar today and it was stated that convicts within the probation system had evening classes; instruction in reading and writing. Those convicts who were literate helped with classes. Religious tracts were their text books. Also there is an article on-line in Tasmanian Ancestry, http://tasfhs.org/Volume%2019.pdf use "Control F" to search for the article "EVENING SCHOOL AT THE OLD WHARF PROBATION STATION 1849-50. It starts on page 240. I do hope it is of interest. Cheers, Maree _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Maree, Yes indeed it is most interesting - thank you so much. Cheers Karen Sent from my iPhone > On 5 May 2019, at 10:47 pm, Maree Ring <mareering@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was able to attend the Female Convict Research Centre seminar today and it was stated that convicts within the probation system had evening classes; instruction in reading and writing. Those convicts who were literate helped with classes. Religious tracts were their text books. > > Also there is an article on-line in Tasmanian Ancestry, http://tasfhs.org/Volume%2019.pdf use "Control F" to search for the article "EVENING SCHOOL AT THE OLD WHARF PROBATION STATION 1849-50. It starts on page 240. I do hope it is of interest. > > Cheers, Maree > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Lyn, The key word is tributes under Classifieds in both the Examiner and the Advocate newspapers in Tasmania.. Cheers, Ione. On Mon, 6 May 2019, 4:59 am Dean Hodge, <dahodge@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Lyn, > I tried the same at the Examiner for 01/01/2015-31/12/2015 and > found > nothing, however thought I might try the Obits for the funeral parlour and > found this on the legacy.com site: > > > http://tributes.examiner.com.au/obituaries/examiner-au/obituary.aspx?n=leona > rd-george-bonner&pid=175342886 > <http://tributes.examiner.com.au/obituaries/examiner-au/obituary.aspx?n=leonard-george-bonner&pid=175342886> > > Cheers, > Dean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:chedoona@beagle.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 19:56 > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] need help with accessing death notice. > > G'day All, I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am having accessing > this death notice at the Examiner. Would appreciate all help/advice. > Cheers > Lyn > VIC > > RYERSON INDEX > BONNER Leonard George Death notice 11JUL2015 Death 90 at > Lady Barron, Flinders Island Launceston Examiner 23JUL2015 > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Lyn, I tried the same at the Examiner for 01/01/2015-31/12/2015 and found nothing, however thought I might try the Obits for the funeral parlour and found this on the legacy.com site: http://tributes.examiner.com.au/obituaries/examiner-au/obituary.aspx?n=leona rd-george-bonner&pid=175342886 Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:chedoona@beagle.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 19:56 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] need help with accessing death notice. G'day All, I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am having accessing this death notice at the Examiner. Would appreciate all help/advice. Cheers Lyn VIC RYERSON INDEX BONNER Leonard George Death notice 11JUL2015 Death 90 at Lady Barron, Flinders Island Launceston Examiner 23JUL2015 _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi all, I was able to attend the Female Convict Research Centre seminar today and it was stated that convicts within the probation system had evening classes; instruction in reading and writing.  Those convicts who were literate helped with classes.  Religious tracts were their text books. Also there is an article on-line in Tasmanian Ancestry, http://tasfhs.org/Volume%2019.pdf   use "Control F" to search for the article "EVENING SCHOOL AT THE OLD WHARF PROBATION STATION 1849-50.  It starts on page 240.  I do hope it is of interest. Cheers,  Maree

Thank you Meryl and Maree for your assistance. I was able to access the notice via the link Maree sent. Cheers Lyn VIC

Hi Lyn, I just tried the search that I sent and it wouldn't work. I've used it previously and it has been fine. Looks like the one Maree sent is a lot better. 8-) Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 8:02 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: need help with accessing death notice. Hi Lyn, It's all a bit weird. https://www.examiner.com.au/classifieds/notices/?utm_source=website&utm_medi um=nav&utm_campaign=classifieds_nav Scroll down and click on Tributes then use the archive search at the bottom Regards, Meryl Yost

Hi Lyn, This is the link I used but make sure you change the box on the top right hand corner from "3 days" to "all time" http://tributes.examiner.com.au/obituaries/examiner-au/obituary-search.aspx?daterange=3&townname=launceston&stateid=200 Cheers,  Maree PS when it first came up I had to change on the top left, from "by town" to "by person" On 5/05/2019 7:56 pm, Lyn Carruthers wrote: > G'day All, I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am having accessing > this death notice at the Examiner. Would appreciate all help/advice. > Cheers > Lyn > VIC > > RYERSON INDEX > BONNER Leonard George Death notice 11JUL2015 Death 90 at > Lady Barron, Flinders Island Launceston Examiner 23JUL2015 > >

Hi Lyn, It's all a bit weird. https://www.examiner.com.au/classifieds/notices/?utm_source=website&utm_medi um=nav&utm_campaign=classifieds_nav Scroll down and click on Tributes then use the archive search at the bottom Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers <chedoona@beagle.com.au> Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 7:56 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] need help with accessing death notice. G'day All, I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am having accessing this death notice at the Examiner. Would appreciate all help/advice. Cheers Lyn VIC RYERSON INDEX BONNER Leonard George Death notice 11JUL2015 Death 90 at Lady Barron, Flinders Island Launceston Examiner 23JUL2015

G'day All, I am sure I am doing something wrong as I am having accessing this death notice at the Examiner. Would appreciate all help/advice. Cheers Lyn VIC RYERSON INDEX BONNER Leonard George Death notice 11JUL2015 Death 90 at Lady Barron, Flinders Island Launceston Examiner 23JUL2015

Hi Robert, Only one that is close on the TFI but a different mother: QUINN, Betty Desma, born 09 Aug 1918, Beaconsfield, Father not stated, Mother Ruby Desma QUINN, 1918 Reg No 1320. Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Robert Bellenger <rbellenger307@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2019 1:28 PM To: Aus TAS <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-Tas] TFI lookup BETTY QUINN Hi All, Hoping someone is able to check TFI for the birth of BETTY QUINN c. 1917 please. Mother is Evelyn Margaret Quinn & father unknown. Evelyn was living in St Marys at this time. Regards Robert

Hi All, Hoping someone is able to check TFI for the birth of BETTY QUINN c. 1917 please. Mother is Evelyn Margaret Quinn & father unknown. Evelyn was living in St Marys at this time. Regards Robert

Good Afternoon to the Collective Wisdom, Thank you to everyone who contributed such a wonderful insight to illiterate convicts and the various methods of how they managed to communicate with loved ones and family. My next question is about "Ticket of Leave". My ancestor James White obtained his ticket of leave as per the following entry: NSW Government Gazette, 15 March 1837, Page 253 Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 13th March, 1837. THE Undermentioned Prisoners of the Crown have obtained Tickets-of-leave since the last day of publication :- COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND. AIRDS. White James, Lady Harewood (2) This was in NSW - can anyone tell me if after he received his "Ticket of Leave" - is there anyway of locating him in the colony? Up until 1837 he had been working on the Varro Ville property for Thomas Wills - in 1837 Varro Ville was sold to Charles Sturt, the explorer. Perhaps James was supported in applying for his Ticket of Leave by either the former owner or Charles Sturt?? I just need the next lead to find him. All assistance and advice warmly appreciated. Cheers and thank you in advance. Karen

Thank you very much Dianne. Regards Chris -----Original Message----- From: Dianne Ashlin [mailto:dianne.ashlin@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2019 2:48 PM To: Tasmanian Mailing list Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Birth and death Marguerite Marien BAADE b 1904 and died 1929 Chris The Tamiot entry BAADE Marion Marguerita B: -- --- 1903 - D: -- --- 1929 - Pr: William James & Catherine Baade, sr: Kevin James Baade - See: Baade, William James--Catherine--Kevin James - ULVERSTONE CEMETERY, ROMAN CATHOLIC SECTION - ULVERSTONE - DEVONPORT - UL10/0315 Cheers Dianne On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 14:59, Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > I was given Registration numbers for this person 1904/2753 Queenstown and > death 1929/132. Her name is variously recorded as Marguerite or Marion > Marguerite BAADE. > > I would like to look at the originals through LINC Tasmania but cannot > locate the records. The spelling of the surname is likely to be incorrect. > > Marguerite was the daughter of Catherine Durkin and William James Baade. > > Could listers assist me please? > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Dianne P Ashlin dianne.ashlin@gmail.com 0439 941 163 _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Chris The Tamiot entry BAADE Marion Marguerita B: -- --- 1903 - D: -- --- 1929 - Pr: William James & Catherine Baade, sr: Kevin James Baade - See: Baade, William James--Catherine--Kevin James - ULVERSTONE CEMETERY, ROMAN CATHOLIC SECTION - ULVERSTONE - DEVONPORT - UL10/0315 Cheers Dianne On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 at 14:59, Chris Kealy <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > I was given Registration numbers for this person 1904/2753 Queenstown and > death 1929/132. Her name is variously recorded as Marguerite or Marion > Marguerite BAADE. > > I would like to look at the originals through LINC Tasmania but cannot > locate the records. The spelling of the surname is likely to be incorrect. > > Marguerite was the daughter of Catherine Durkin and William James Baade. > > Could listers assist me please? > > Chris > > In Melbourne > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > -- Dianne P Ashlin dianne.ashlin@gmail.com 0439 941 163

I’ll let you know when I’ve got the date set! Sent from my iPhone > On 1 May 2019, at 6:57 pm, David Cripps <cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au> wrote: > >> On 01-May-19 3:21 PM, Margaret Watson wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> When I work out how to sit down with my two convicts and have a chat, I'll >> ask you along! >> >> Margaret. >> > > Please do Margaret, and don't forget the digital voice recorder, and > I'll bring the hors d'oeuvres and red wine. > > > Cheers - Dave > > -- > David Cripps | cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au > Hobart, Tasmania > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On 01-May-19 3:21 PM, Margaret Watson wrote: > Hi David, > > When I work out how to sit down with my two convicts and have a chat, I'll > ask you along! > > Margaret. > Please do Margaret, and don't forget the digital voice recorder, and I'll bring the hors d'oeuvres and red wine. Cheers - Dave -- David Cripps | cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au Hobart, Tasmania

Hi David, When I work out how to sit down with my two convicts and have a chat, I'll ask you along! Margaret. On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM David Cripps <cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au> wrote: > On 29-Apr-19 10:38 PM, Lorraine Wootton wrote: > > > > I often wonder about the newspaper notifications (in very small print) > > of Tickets of Leave, Conditional Pardons, etc being granted and > > certificates having to be collected. > > > > Also those notices requiring convicts to turn up for musters. > > > > People did not have the papers delivered like we have today, so how > > were they expected to know about these public announcements? > > Was it left to the employers or overseers to inform those working for > > them? > > I've been thinking on this for a day or so, and you're right of course, > how practically did this happen Lorraine? > > If you were a Ticket of Leave holder for example, did you receive > communication from the authorities, or more likely it was your own > responsibility to scan the Gazette regularly. But for those with a TL, > your employers were known and recorded, so perhaps notification might > have occurred through this means. In my case, my William Cripps was > freed in 1852, and I'm aware he did have convict employees in his bakery > after this, so maybe he did show a bit of empathy in their direction. I > say "maybe" since I'm aware of one story handed down when one of these > employees forgot/failed/didn't bother to feed the horses that particular > night, so deliveries the next day were delayed; Apparently William had > that convict round the throat in a choke hold he was that enraged. Funny > the things that are handed down isn't it<g>. > > But I suppose the future date of your freedom might be imprinted on your > brain, and then of course a CP might come your way a bit earlier if you > behaved, or provided some service to the authorities. Then of course > I'd ask, did my William Cripps keep his certificate of freedom, or did > his descendants chuck it out a bit further down the track, and almost > certainly did so after he died in 1888. > > There's many reasons why I'd love to sit down with my William Cripps and > share a cuppa and a yarn. > > > Cheers - David Cripps > > > -- > David Cripps | cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au > Hobart, Tasmania > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

On 29-Apr-19 10:38 PM, Lorraine Wootton wrote: > > I often wonder about the newspaper notifications (in very small print) > of Tickets of Leave, Conditional Pardons, etc being granted and > certificates having to be collected. > > Also those notices requiring convicts to turn up for musters. > > People did not have the papers delivered like we have today, so how > were they expected to know about these public announcements? > Was it left to the employers or overseers to inform those working for > them? I've been thinking on this for a day or so, and you're right of course, how practically did this happen Lorraine? If you were a Ticket of Leave holder for example, did you receive communication from the authorities, or more likely it was your own responsibility to scan the Gazette regularly. But for those with a TL, your employers were known and recorded, so perhaps notification might have occurred through this means. In my case, my William Cripps was freed in 1852, and I'm aware he did have convict employees in his bakery after this, so maybe he did show a bit of empathy in their direction.  I say "maybe" since I'm aware of one story handed down when one of these employees forgot/failed/didn't bother to feed the horses that particular night, so deliveries the next day were delayed; Apparently William had that convict round the throat in a choke hold he was that enraged. Funny the things that are handed down isn't it<g>. But I suppose the future date of your freedom might be imprinted on your brain, and then of course a CP might come your way a bit earlier if you behaved, or provided some service to the authorities.  Then of course I'd ask, did my William Cripps keep his certificate of freedom, or did his descendants chuck it out a bit further down the track, and almost certainly did so after he died in 1888. There's many reasons why I'd love to sit down with my William Cripps and share a cuppa and a yarn. Cheers - David Cripps -- David Cripps | cripps_nbn@iinet.net.au Hobart, Tasmania