Alice Eva....that should have read a sister??? As I haven't got to her yet :-) Lyn

Thanks Meryl, a sister. Cheers Lyn

Thankyou all. Cheers Lyn

I agree it looks like Alice Mancer, too. Beneath marriage solemnised by James Doran and Sarah Ellen Thompson on LHS, is looks like "her mark". This is similar to the comments up further on the certificate with X her mark. The name for witness Joseph could be Mark or Markby..like Meryl I'm not sure Chris -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost [mailto:merylp@tasfamily.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 8 May 2019 9:08 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Marriage witnesses Hi Lyn, https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-50p132j2k Looks like Alice MANCER to me. The Joseph one is a bit weird as the word after Joseph looks just like Mark which is also written under Sarah's name across to the left. Then it has . and what might be by. Mark.by So is it just Joseph and his Mark or is the surname something like Markby. Horrible writing to try and work out. 8-( Regards, Meryl -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers <chedoona@beagle.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:18 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Marriage witnesses G'day All, When you have time will you look at this marriage for me please. I am having trouble working out the 2nd and 3rd witness names. Cheers Lyn VIC married by Rev. Herbert Robert FINNIS Witnesses John JACKSON Alice MANCER ? Joseph ??? _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Church register original certificate from St John's the Baptist (NS1241/1/2) C of E - Witness' - John JACKSON Alice MANCER Joseph MARKBY All in their own hand writings Cheers, Peter.

Hi Lyn, Just had a look at the TPI and Alice Eva THOMPSON married Alfred MANSER, 21 Dec 1888, Hobart. Maybe a sister or relative of Sarah?? Regards, Meryl -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers <chedoona@beagle.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:18 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Marriage witnesses G'day All, When you have time will you look at this marriage for me please. I am having trouble working out the 2nd and 3rd witness names. Cheers Lyn VIC married by Rev. Herbert Robert FINNIS Witnesses John JACKSON Alice MANCER ? Joseph ???

Hi Lyn, https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-50p132j2k Looks like Alice MANCER to me. The Joseph one is a bit weird as the word after Joseph looks just like Mark which is also written under Sarah's name across to the left. Then it has . and what might be by. Mark.by So is it just Joseph and his Mark or is the surname something like Markby. Horrible writing to try and work out. 8-( Regards, Meryl -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers <chedoona@beagle.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 11:18 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Marriage witnesses G'day All, When you have time will you look at this marriage for me please. I am having trouble working out the 2nd and 3rd witness names. Cheers Lyn VIC married by Rev. Herbert Robert FINNIS Witnesses John JACKSON Alice MANCER ? Joseph ???

G'day All, When you have time will you look at this marriage for me please. I am having trouble working out the 2nd and 3rd witness names. Cheers Lyn VIC married by Rev. Herbert Robert FINNIS Witnesses John JACKSON Alice MANCER ? Joseph ??? Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899 Surname: THOMPSON Given Names: SARAH ELLEN Event: Marriage Father/Spouse Surname: DORAN Mother/Spouse Given Names: JAMES AUGUSTUS Day: 11 Month: 1 Year: 1891 Age: Sex: F Spouse Age: Adult Spouse Sex: M Registration Place: HOBART Registration Number: 217/1891 Reference: RGD 37

In AF35/1/7 Rosetta is named under Lynch and J Lynch is stated as husband - https://stors.tas.gov.au/AF35-1-7 scroll to page 331 # 10251 Cheers, Peter

Meryl Many thanks again I wonder if Rosetta did legally marry again or co habitated with the Lynch person I know I wouldnt bother after 2 dec spouses, but if I can find the son maxwell in white pages ( I hope) he may help? Gee I live in hope Elaine On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:08 PM Meryl Yost <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> wrote: > > Nothing on the Cornelian Bay records or Millingtons online for any other > with the surname SOUL. > > Regards, > Meryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 7:58 PM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Rosetta Jane Soul nee Williams > > Meryl > A surprise I can tell you no wonderr I couldnt locate her and may I ask her > son Maxwell Soul I found him the in the E/rolls for Hobart with Jean as > spouse but, after that? I am stumped Brain isnt going well the last few > days Elaine in cold Melbourne > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:52 PM Meryl Yost <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> wrote: > > > > Hi Elaine, > > > > It looks like she married again after Joseph Henry Soul died. > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Nothing on the Cornelian Bay records or Millingtons online for any other with the surname SOUL. Regards, Meryl -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 7:58 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Rosetta Jane Soul nee Williams Meryl A surprise I can tell you no wonderr I couldnt locate her and may I ask her son Maxwell Soul I found him the in the E/rolls for Hobart with Jean as spouse but, after that? I am stumped Brain isnt going well the last few days Elaine in cold Melbourne On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:52 PM Meryl Yost <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > > It looks like she married again after Joseph Henry Soul died.

Hi Elaine, Looks like the Cornelian Bay records may be wrong about George Garnet WALTER as on Gravesites of Tasmania he is not in the same grave. There must have been an error on their CD records. Also Rosetta doesn't have a surname on her grave but according to the Cornelian Bay records it seems she did remarry. Check out: http://www.gravesoftas.com.au/Cornelian%20Bay%20Live/Church%20Of%20England/S ection%20AR.htm regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 7:31 PM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rosetta Jane Soul nee Williams Have a problem with this person for over 10 years I cannot locate anything on her but all I have is 1.. marriage to Joseph Henry Soul 1927 Hobart He died 1953 Tas 2 marriage to Walter Lambert Quadrill 1919 Hobart he died 1925 Caulfield Melb it's the second marriage details I am after I do not know where Rosetta went There is mention of her passing on Ancestry in Hobart, but she is not on Millingtons database also I dont know of she had children Her parents were Joseph Bartholomew Williams and Jane Partridge if that helps any She was one of 4 children Hope some one can help Thanks

Meryl A surprise I can tell you no wonderr I couldnt locate her and may I ask her son Maxwell Soul I found him the in the E/rolls for Hobart with Jean as spouse but, after that? I am stumped Brain isnt going well the last few days Elaine in cold Melbourne On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:52 PM Meryl Yost <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Elaine, > > It looks like she married again after Joseph Henry Soul died. > > Cornelian Bay records have a burial for Rosetta Jane LYNCH, buried 10 Oct > 1968, age 70, husband Mr J Lynch, > Church of England, Section AR, Number 291. > > Also buried with her are Joseph Henry SOUL buried 28 Nov 1953, wife Rosetta > Jane Soul > and > George Garnet WALTER buried 21 May 1954, wife Daisy Bell Walter. > > Regards, > Meryl Yost > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 7:31 PM > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rosetta Jane Soul nee Williams > > Have a problem with this person for over 10 years I cannot locate anything > on her but all I have is 1.. marriage to Joseph Henry Soul 1927 Hobart He > died 1953 Tas > 2 marriage to Walter Lambert Quadrill 1919 Hobart he died 1925 Caulfield > Melb it's the second marriage details I am after I do not know where > Rosetta went There is mention of her passing on Ancestry in Hobart, but she > is not on Millingtons database also I dont know of she had children Her > parents were Joseph Bartholomew Williams and Jane Partridge if that helps > any She was one of 4 children > > Hope some one can help > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Elaine, Joseph Henry and Rosetta Jane Soul are buried at Cornelian Bay. Gravesites of Tasmania have a photo of the headstone online. Can’t send a link cause I’m on my phone but they are in the C of E section titled AR. Rosetta died 8th Oct. 1968 aged 70. Cheers, Peter On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 7:31 pm, Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> wrote: > Have a problem with this person for over 10 years I cannot locate > anything on her but all I have is > 1.. marriage to Joseph Henry Soul 1927 Hobart He died 1953 Tas > 2 marriage to Walter Lambert Quadrill 1919 Hobart he died 1925 > Caulfield Melb it's the second marriage details I am after I do not > know where Rosetta went > There is mention of her passing on Ancestry in Hobart, but she is not > on Millingtons database also I dont know of she had children > Her parents were Joseph Bartholomew Williams and Jane Partridge if > that helps any She was one of 4 children > > Hope some one can help > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Elaine, It looks like she married again after Joseph Henry Soul died. Cornelian Bay records have a burial for Rosetta Jane LYNCH, buried 10 Oct 1968, age 70, husband Mr J Lynch, Church of England, Section AR, Number 291. Also buried with her are Joseph Henry SOUL buried 28 Nov 1953, wife Rosetta Jane Soul and George Garnet WALTER buried 21 May 1954, wife Daisy Bell Walter. Regards, Meryl Yost -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Jefferson <elainej100@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 7 May 2019 7:31 PM To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rosetta Jane Soul nee Williams Have a problem with this person for over 10 years I cannot locate anything on her but all I have is 1.. marriage to Joseph Henry Soul 1927 Hobart He died 1953 Tas 2 marriage to Walter Lambert Quadrill 1919 Hobart he died 1925 Caulfield Melb it's the second marriage details I am after I do not know where Rosetta went There is mention of her passing on Ancestry in Hobart, but she is not on Millingtons database also I dont know of she had children Her parents were Joseph Bartholomew Williams and Jane Partridge if that helps any She was one of 4 children Hope some one can help Thanks

Have a problem with this person for over 10 years I cannot locate anything on her but all I have is 1.. marriage to Joseph Henry Soul 1927 Hobart He died 1953 Tas 2 marriage to Walter Lambert Quadrill 1919 Hobart he died 1925 Caulfield Melb it's the second marriage details I am after I do not know where Rosetta went There is mention of her passing on Ancestry in Hobart, but she is not on Millingtons database also I dont know of she had children Her parents were Joseph Bartholomew Williams and Jane Partridge if that helps any She was one of 4 children Hope some one can help Thanks

Thanks so much Edie, I was beginning to bald due to the amount of hair pulling!! That is the very best lead I have had....I live in hope this might the solutions. Tanks again. Cheers Karen -----Original Message----- From: eamca1944@bigpond.com [mailto:eamca1944@bigpond.com] Sent: 07 May 2019 13:57 To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Ticket of Leave Karen, I saw a 'Ticket of Leave Passport' a couple of months ago, when a visitor from Queensland visited me and he had a Ticket of Leave Passport with him. I had never seen nor heard of a Ticket of leave Passport until that time. I know little about them, but this website explains that it allowed a Ticket of Leave holder to leave the Police District he was entitled to move freely within, with pemission was allowed to move outside of the Police District with a ticket Of Leave Passport. the website may give you an idea as to where you may find details of each passport he obtained and where he roamed. https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/series/12204 Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "K Market Associates" <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 May, 2019 At 10:12 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Ticket of Leave Good Afternoon to the Collective Wisdom, Thank you to everyone who contributed such a wonderful insight to illiterate convicts and the various methods of how they managed to communicate with loved ones and family. My next question is about "Ticket of Leave". My ancestor James White obtained his ticket of leave as per the following entry: NSW Government Gazette, 15 March 1837, Page 253 Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 13th March, 1837. THE Undermentioned Prisoners of the Crown have obtained Tickets-of-leave since the last day of publication :- COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND. AIRDS. White James, Lady Harewood (2) This was in NSW - can anyone tell me if after he received his "Ticket of Leave" - is there anyway of locating him in the colony? Up until 1837 he had been working on the Varro Ville property for Thomas Wills - in 1837 Varro Ville was sold to Charles Sturt, the explorer. Perhaps James was supported in applying for his Ticket of Leave by either the former owner or Charles Sturt?? I just need the next lead to find him. All assistance and advice warmly appreciated. Cheers and thank you in advance. Karen _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Karen, I saw a 'Ticket of Leave Passport' a couple of months ago, when a visitor from Queensland visited me and he had a Ticket of Leave Passport with him. I had never seen nor heard of a Ticket of leave Passport until that time. I know little about them, but this website explains that it allowed a Ticket of Leave holder to leave the Police District he was entitled to move freely within, with pemission was allowed to move outside of the Police District with a ticket Of Leave Passport. the website may give you an idea as to where you may find details of each passport he obtained and where he roamed. https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/series/12204 Edie McArthur ------ Original Message ------ From: "K Market Associates" <kma-pr@kma-pr.com.au> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 May, 2019 At 10:12 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Ticket of Leave Good Afternoon to the Collective Wisdom, Thank you to everyone who contributed such a wonderful insight to illiterate convicts and the various methods of how they managed to communicate with loved ones and family. My next question is about "Ticket of Leave". My ancestor James White obtained his ticket of leave as per the following entry: NSW Government Gazette, 15 March 1837, Page 253 Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 13th March, 1837. THE Undermentioned Prisoners of the Crown have obtained Tickets-of-leave since the last day of publication :- COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND. AIRDS. White James, Lady Harewood (2) This was in NSW - can anyone tell me if after he received his "Ticket of Leave" - is there anyway of locating him in the colony? Up until 1837 he had been working on the Varro Ville property for Thomas Wills - in 1837 Varro Ville was sold to Charles Sturt, the explorer. Perhaps James was supported in applying for his Ticket of Leave by either the former owner or Charles Sturt?? I just need the next lead to find him. All assistance and advice warmly appreciated. Cheers and thank you in advance. Karen _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://sites.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Mind you what was meant to happen and what actually happened are two different things. love and light Kelli Schultz

Thankyou Dean. Cheers Lyn