Hello Bill, Yes, I am great grandson of Frank William Pitt Hammond, founder of Frank Hammond Pty Ltd, and member of the Beltana, later Lindisfarne, Town Board for twelve years. In 1903, which was Frank's first year as Chairman, it became the Lindisfarne Town Board. Hence my interest in trying to understand the responsibilities of the Town Board. I will contact you off list to have a discussion about Frank and his son Jack. Thanks for your response. John Hammond -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Maxwell Sent: Monday, 2 June 2014 8:44 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] History of Town Boards Hello John I noticed your surname is shared with one of the members of the first Board, so though I should ask. Was that F W P Hammond the Frank Hammond who established the successful transport company Frank Hammond Pty Ltd.? I ask because I worked for the company in Hobart in 1967, by which time it had become part of the Wm Crosby group. My cousin also worked for it as the Transport Manager until his sudden death. While long retired, Charles Hammond, Frank's son, maintained an office in the building and I spent considerable time talking to him each week as he prepared his banking deposit details for me to bank for him at to the old ES&A Bank in Macquarie Street. Another of the Hammond family, Barbara I think, also worked in the office, alongside my cousin in Transport. Regards Bill On 1/06/2014 9:21 PM, John Hammond wrote: > Hello Helen, Judy, Mike, Malcolm > Many thanks for your responses to my query regarding the history of > Town Boards in Tasmania. > > After a lot of Googling and Troving, I now understand a little more > about the history of local government administration in Tasmania, and > how we developed arguably the most complex system ever... > > My particular interest was the formation of a Town Board in > Lindisfarne in > 1894 for the management of local government affairs including roads, > sanitary services, town based services, etc. > > The story goes like this: > > Lindisfarne, or Beltana as it was known from about 1890, was a rapidly > developing town. The Beltana Land Company advertised and promoted > Beltana, located around Lindisfarne Bay, as a healthy and picturesque > alternative to living in Hobart. Land was subdivided, blocks sold > off, community facilities developed, ferry services put in place, and > so on. A state school was built in 1893 and a local hotel established in 1892. > > By 1894 Beltana was a growing town and community. A well-attended > public meeting, chaired by Matthew Wilkes Simmons, was held at the > school house on the 17 May 1894. Mr. Simmons pointed out that Beltana > was included in the Clarence Municipality and the Road District of > Cambridge, and that it was considered desirable by some, as Beltana > was not directly represented on either of those bodies, to have some > form of local government. He advocated the formation of a Town Board under the Town Boards Act 1891. Mr. V. D. > Elliston, solicitor, gave data on the population and rateable values, > showing that the township was fully qualified to take such action > under the Act. Mr. W. P. Brownell pointed out the advantages of such > action as having local control of streets, footpaths, sanitary > matters, etc. The meeting voted for progressing the issue and authorised the chairman to advise the > Attorney-General. Their request was successful. > > Beltana was proclaimed a town, and was to be managed by a Town Board. > The board was elected on the 26 November 1894 comprising Messrs F. W. Jordan, J. > Greaves, F. W. P. Hammond, Henry Bastone and George Olney. The board > met that night and elected Mr J. Greaves as first Chairman. They then > met monthly, as did a related Board of Health. Elections occurred > annually. In > 1903 the Town Board petitioned the Governor and changed the name of > the town to Lindisfarne. > > By 1906 local government services were provided by some 149 district > and local authorities including Rural Municipalities, Town Boards, > Main Road Districts, Road Districts, Local Health Districts, Fruit > Districts, Rabbit Districts, School Districts, and Public Recreation > Ground Districts. The Local Government Act 1906 abolished all of > these bodies, consolidated council boundaries, brought together the > various councils, town committees and road committees, and provided a > proper legislative context in which Local Government could function. > Under this Act all local authorities other than those for Hobart and > Launceston were abolished and replaced by 47 municipalities. In > relation to the new Clarence Municipality, four wards were created > with three councillors each; Bellerive, Lindisfarne, Cambridge and Sandford wards. The last meeting of the Lindisfarne Town Board occurred > on the 31 December 1907. The board was disbanded with three members Messrs > A. E. Risby, A. W. Hume and J. L. Knutson being elected councillors to > represent the Lindisfarne Ward. > > Thanks again. > > John Hammond > PO Box 551, > Clayfield 4011 QLD, Australia > > Mobile: +61 419 648 649 > Home: +61 7 3268 5781 > E-Mail: jhammond@iprimus.com.au > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, Well done - we need more people like you researching interesting aspects of early Tasmania. Research into family history tends to focus on the details of individuals and families and, for amateur historians like us, the wider aspects of life are far more difficult to discover and describe. Thank you. -- Regards Mike Hurburgh --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Val, This information from the old Archives Office of Tasmania. Ray Archives Office of Tasmania INFORMATION RECORDED IN TASMANIAN REGISTRATIONS OF BIRTHS. DEATHS AND MARRIAGES Compulsory registration in Tasmania was introduced in December 1838. Prior to the 1838 Registration Act there was no registration of births, deaths and marriages and these events for this period can only be traced through church records, some of which have been transcribed by the Registrar-General's Department. Notwithstanding that registration was compulsory after 1838, there are many instances of either failure of local returns to be submitted, or neglect by the responsible party to make a registration. Unlike their interstate counterparts, Tasmanian registrations do not give all the data that many people anticipate. The following information is generally included: BIRTHS Prior to 1896 particulars recorded were: Given name (if known at time of registration) and surname. Date and place of birth. Names of parents. Maiden surname of mother. Father's occupation. In 1896 the date and place of the parents' marriage were added. In 1902 the ages and birthplaces of the parents were added. In 1909 previous issue (children) were added. DEATHS Prior to 1897 particulars recorded were: Name of deceased. Date and place of death. Age at death. Occupation. Cause of death. In 1897 the birthplace of deceased was added. In 1914 age at marriage and number of issue were added. MARRIAGES Prior to 1896 particulars recorded were: Names of parties being married. - Date and place of marriage. Age at marriage (sometimes only whether "under" or "over" age, i.e. 21 years). Occupation and status (e.g. bachelor and spinster). Names of witnesses to the marriage. Names of parents, and places of birth, of the parties being married were not added until 1896. On 1/06/2014 11:40 PM, Val Date wrote: > Would a 1908 marriage certificate show the names and ages of the parties, > and would the parents of the bride and groom be named? The marriage > occurred in Launceston, and the parties were Ada LUTTRELL and Alfred AVERY. > Hoping someone can help, regards Val Date > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello John I noticed your surname is shared with one of the members of the first Board, so though I should ask. Was that F W P Hammond the Frank Hammond who established the successful transport company Frank Hammond Pty Ltd.? I ask because I worked for the company in Hobart in 1967, by which time it had become part of the Wm Crosby group. My cousin also worked for it as the Transport Manager until his sudden death. While long retired, Charles Hammond, Frank's son, maintained an office in the building and I spent considerable time talking to him each week as he prepared his banking deposit details for me to bank for him at to the old ES&A Bank in Macquarie Street. Another of the Hammond family, Barbara I think, also worked in the office, alongside my cousin in Transport. Regards Bill On 1/06/2014 9:21 PM, John Hammond wrote: > Hello Helen, Judy, Mike, Malcolm > Many thanks for your responses to my query regarding the history of Town > Boards in Tasmania. > > After a lot of Googling and Troving, I now understand a little more about > the history of local government administration in Tasmania, and how we > developed arguably the most complex system ever... > > My particular interest was the formation of a Town Board in Lindisfarne in > 1894 for the management of local government affairs including roads, > sanitary services, town based services, etc. > > The story goes like this: > > Lindisfarne, or Beltana as it was known from about 1890, was a rapidly > developing town. The Beltana Land Company advertised and promoted Beltana, > located around Lindisfarne Bay, as a healthy and picturesque alternative to > living in Hobart. Land was subdivided, blocks sold off, community > facilities developed, ferry services put in place, and so on. A state > school was built in 1893 and a local hotel established in 1892. > > By 1894 Beltana was a growing town and community. A well-attended public > meeting, chaired by Matthew Wilkes Simmons, was held at the school house on > the 17 May 1894. Mr. Simmons pointed out that Beltana was included in the > Clarence Municipality and the Road District of Cambridge, and that it was > considered desirable by some, as Beltana was not directly represented on > either of those bodies, to have some form of local government. He advocated > the formation of a Town Board under the Town Boards Act 1891. Mr. V. D. > Elliston, solicitor, gave data on the population and rateable values, > showing that the township was fully qualified to take such action under the > Act. Mr. W. P. Brownell pointed out the advantages of such action as having > local control of streets, footpaths, sanitary matters, etc. The meeting > voted for progressing the issue and authorised the chairman to advise the > Attorney-General. Their request was successful. > > Beltana was proclaimed a town, and was to be managed by a Town Board. The > board was elected on the 26 November 1894 comprising Messrs F. W. Jordan, J. > Greaves, F. W. P. Hammond, Henry Bastone and George Olney. The board met > that night and elected Mr J. Greaves as first Chairman. They then met > monthly, as did a related Board of Health. Elections occurred annually. In > 1903 the Town Board petitioned the Governor and changed the name of the town > to Lindisfarne. > > By 1906 local government services were provided by some 149 district and > local authorities including Rural Municipalities, Town Boards, Main Road > Districts, Road Districts, Local Health Districts, Fruit Districts, Rabbit > Districts, School Districts, and Public Recreation Ground Districts. The > Local Government Act 1906 abolished all of these bodies, consolidated > council boundaries, brought together the various councils, town committees > and road committees, and provided a proper legislative context in which > Local Government could function. Under this Act all local authorities other > than those for Hobart and Launceston were abolished and replaced by 47 > municipalities. In relation to the new Clarence Municipality, four wards > were created with three councillors each; Bellerive, Lindisfarne, Cambridge > and Sandford wards. The last meeting of the Lindisfarne Town Board occurred > on the 31 December 1907. The board was disbanded with three members Messrs > A. E. Risby, A. W. Hume and J. L. Knutson being elected councillors to > represent the Lindisfarne Ward. > > Thanks again. > > John Hammond > PO Box 551, > Clayfield 4011 QLD, Australia > > Mobile: +61 419 648 649 > Home: +61 7 3268 5781 > E-Mail: jhammond@iprimus.com.au > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html>

Hi, I presume the format would be the same in all British run colonies when it comes to marriage certificates etc. My grandfather was in the British India Army in the late 1800s up until 1907. He and my grandmother (who was from England but working as a "Lady's Companion" in India at the time they met) married in Bombay in 1907. I have a copy of their marriage certificate where it lists the parents of both bride and groom, ages (date of birth) and occupation of both parties. My grandfather was from New Zealand but had gone off 'to see the world' as a young teenager and after a time in Britain he has joined the British India Army as the Leader of the Viceroy's Band. No doubt meeting my grandmother at one of the soirees or balls held in Simla during the viceregal party's summer holidays in that town where Europeans escaped from the high temperatures on the plains of India. Cheers Ainslie. Cheers Ainslie - in Adelaide.

Hi Malcolm Hope you are well. Try this link http://www.ccc.tas.gov.au/page.aspx?u=1601 It provided as good summary of the history of Lindisfarne and Lindisfarne Bay. Cheers John -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm Ward [mailto:greatbedwyn@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 11:04 PM To: 'John Hammond'; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] History of Town Boards Very interesting, John, thanks. Is it known why the bay was called Lindisfarne originally? I would have thought a bit late to have a connection to the island/castle off NE England? And why was the name Beltana discarded? Cheers Malcolm Ward -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hammond Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 9:22 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] History of Town Boards Hello Helen, Judy, Mike, Malcolm Many thanks for your responses to my query regarding the history of Town Boards in Tasmania. After a lot of Googling and Troving, I now understand a little more about the history of local government administration in Tasmania, and how we developed arguably the most complex system ever... My particular interest was the formation of a Town Board in Lindisfarne in 1894 for the management of local government affairs including roads, sanitary services, town based services, etc. The story goes like this: Lindisfarne, or Beltana as it was known from about 1890, was a rapidly developing town. The Beltana Land Company advertised and promoted Beltana, located around Lindisfarne Bay, as a healthy and picturesque alternative to living in Hobart. Land was subdivided, blocks sold off, community facilities developed, ferry services put in place, and so on. A state school was built in 1893 and a local hotel established in 1892. By 1894 Beltana was a growing town and community. A well-attended public meeting, chaired by Matthew Wilkes Simmons, was held at the school house on the 17 May 1894. Mr. Simmons pointed out that Beltana was included in the Clarence Municipality and the Road District of Cambridge, and that it was considered desirable by some, as Beltana was not directly represented on either of those bodies, to have some form of local government. He advocated the formation of a Town Board under the Town Boards Act 1891. Mr. V. D. Elliston, solicitor, gave data on the population and rateable values, showing that the township was fully qualified to take such action under the Act. Mr. W. P. Brownell pointed out the advantages of such action as having local control of streets, footpaths, sanitary matters, etc. The meeting voted for progressing the issue and authorised the chairman to advise the Attorney-General. Their request was successful. Beltana was proclaimed a town, and was to be managed by a Town Board. The board was elected on the 26 November 1894 comprising Messrs F. W. Jordan, J. Greaves, F. W. P. Hammond, Henry Bastone and George Olney. The board met that night and elected Mr J. Greaves as first Chairman. They then met monthly, as did a related Board of Health. Elections occurred annually. In 1903 the Town Board petitioned the Governor and changed the name of the town to Lindisfarne. By 1906 local government services were provided by some 149 district and local authorities including Rural Municipalities, Town Boards, Main Road Districts, Road Districts, Local Health Districts, Fruit Districts, Rabbit Districts, School Districts, and Public Recreation Ground Districts. The Local Government Act 1906 abolished all of these bodies, consolidated council boundaries, brought together the various councils, town committees and road committees, and provided a proper legislative context in which Local Government could function. Under this Act all local authorities other than those for Hobart and Launceston were abolished and replaced by 47 municipalities. In relation to the new Clarence Municipality, four wards were created with three councillors each; Bellerive, Lindisfarne, Cambridge and Sandford wards. The last meeting of the Lindisfarne Town Board occurred on the 31 December 1907. The board was disbanded with three members Messrs A. E. Risby, A. W. Hume and J. L. Knutson being elected councillors to represent the Lindisfarne Ward. Thanks again. John Hammond PO Box 551, Clayfield 4011 QLD, Australia Mobile: +61 419 648 649 Home: +61 7 3268 5781 E-Mail: jhammond@iprimus.com.au ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hope this is of help Val cheers Lyn http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Would a 1908 marriage certificate show the names and ages of the parties, and would the parents of the bride and groom be named? The marriage occurred in Launceston, and the parties were Ada LUTTRELL and Alfred AVERY. Hoping someone can help, regards Val Date

Very interesting, John, thanks. Is it known why the bay was called Lindisfarne originally? I would have thought a bit late to have a connection to the island/castle off NE England? And why was the name Beltana discarded? Cheers Malcolm Ward -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hammond Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2014 9:22 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] History of Town Boards Hello Helen, Judy, Mike, Malcolm Many thanks for your responses to my query regarding the history of Town Boards in Tasmania. After a lot of Googling and Troving, I now understand a little more about the history of local government administration in Tasmania, and how we developed arguably the most complex system ever... My particular interest was the formation of a Town Board in Lindisfarne in 1894 for the management of local government affairs including roads, sanitary services, town based services, etc. The story goes like this: Lindisfarne, or Beltana as it was known from about 1890, was a rapidly developing town. The Beltana Land Company advertised and promoted Beltana, located around Lindisfarne Bay, as a healthy and picturesque alternative to living in Hobart. Land was subdivided, blocks sold off, community facilities developed, ferry services put in place, and so on. A state school was built in 1893 and a local hotel established in 1892. By 1894 Beltana was a growing town and community. A well-attended public meeting, chaired by Matthew Wilkes Simmons, was held at the school house on the 17 May 1894. Mr. Simmons pointed out that Beltana was included in the Clarence Municipality and the Road District of Cambridge, and that it was considered desirable by some, as Beltana was not directly represented on either of those bodies, to have some form of local government. He advocated the formation of a Town Board under the Town Boards Act 1891. Mr. V. D. Elliston, solicitor, gave data on the population and rateable values, showing that the township was fully qualified to take such action under the Act. Mr. W. P. Brownell pointed out the advantages of such action as having local control of streets, footpaths, sanitary matters, etc. The meeting voted for progressing the issue and authorised the chairman to advise the Attorney-General. Their request was successful. Beltana was proclaimed a town, and was to be managed by a Town Board. The board was elected on the 26 November 1894 comprising Messrs F. W. Jordan, J. Greaves, F. W. P. Hammond, Henry Bastone and George Olney. The board met that night and elected Mr J. Greaves as first Chairman. They then met monthly, as did a related Board of Health. Elections occurred annually. In 1903 the Town Board petitioned the Governor and changed the name of the town to Lindisfarne. By 1906 local government services were provided by some 149 district and local authorities including Rural Municipalities, Town Boards, Main Road Districts, Road Districts, Local Health Districts, Fruit Districts, Rabbit Districts, School Districts, and Public Recreation Ground Districts. The Local Government Act 1906 abolished all of these bodies, consolidated council boundaries, brought together the various councils, town committees and road committees, and provided a proper legislative context in which Local Government could function. Under this Act all local authorities other than those for Hobart and Launceston were abolished and replaced by 47 municipalities. In relation to the new Clarence Municipality, four wards were created with three councillors each; Bellerive, Lindisfarne, Cambridge and Sandford wards. The last meeting of the Lindisfarne Town Board occurred on the 31 December 1907. The board was disbanded with three members Messrs A. E. Risby, A. W. Hume and J. L. Knutson being elected councillors to represent the Lindisfarne Ward. Thanks again. John Hammond PO Box 551, Clayfield 4011 QLD, Australia Mobile: +61 419 648 649 Home: +61 7 3268 5781 E-Mail: jhammond@iprimus.com.au ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Helen, Judy, Mike, Malcolm Many thanks for your responses to my query regarding the history of Town Boards in Tasmania. After a lot of Googling and Troving, I now understand a little more about the history of local government administration in Tasmania, and how we developed arguably the most complex system ever... My particular interest was the formation of a Town Board in Lindisfarne in 1894 for the management of local government affairs including roads, sanitary services, town based services, etc. The story goes like this: Lindisfarne, or Beltana as it was known from about 1890, was a rapidly developing town. The Beltana Land Company advertised and promoted Beltana, located around Lindisfarne Bay, as a healthy and picturesque alternative to living in Hobart. Land was subdivided, blocks sold off, community facilities developed, ferry services put in place, and so on. A state school was built in 1893 and a local hotel established in 1892. By 1894 Beltana was a growing town and community. A well-attended public meeting, chaired by Matthew Wilkes Simmons, was held at the school house on the 17 May 1894. Mr. Simmons pointed out that Beltana was included in the Clarence Municipality and the Road District of Cambridge, and that it was considered desirable by some, as Beltana was not directly represented on either of those bodies, to have some form of local government. He advocated the formation of a Town Board under the Town Boards Act 1891. Mr. V. D. Elliston, solicitor, gave data on the population and rateable values, showing that the township was fully qualified to take such action under the Act. Mr. W. P. Brownell pointed out the advantages of such action as having local control of streets, footpaths, sanitary matters, etc. The meeting voted for progressing the issue and authorised the chairman to advise the Attorney-General. Their request was successful. Beltana was proclaimed a town, and was to be managed by a Town Board. The board was elected on the 26 November 1894 comprising Messrs F. W. Jordan, J. Greaves, F. W. P. Hammond, Henry Bastone and George Olney. The board met that night and elected Mr J. Greaves as first Chairman. They then met monthly, as did a related Board of Health. Elections occurred annually. In 1903 the Town Board petitioned the Governor and changed the name of the town to Lindisfarne. By 1906 local government services were provided by some 149 district and local authorities including Rural Municipalities, Town Boards, Main Road Districts, Road Districts, Local Health Districts, Fruit Districts, Rabbit Districts, School Districts, and Public Recreation Ground Districts. The Local Government Act 1906 abolished all of these bodies, consolidated council boundaries, brought together the various councils, town committees and road committees, and provided a proper legislative context in which Local Government could function. Under this Act all local authorities other than those for Hobart and Launceston were abolished and replaced by 47 municipalities. In relation to the new Clarence Municipality, four wards were created with three councillors each; Bellerive, Lindisfarne, Cambridge and Sandford wards. The last meeting of the Lindisfarne Town Board occurred on the 31 December 1907. The board was disbanded with three members Messrs A. E. Risby, A. W. Hume and J. L. Knutson being elected councillors to represent the Lindisfarne Ward. Thanks again. John Hammond PO Box 551, Clayfield 4011 QLD, Australia Mobile: +61 419 648 649 Home: +61 7 3268 5781 E-Mail: jhammond@iprimus.com.au

Hi Val, >From his army records (per the death notice Elaine found) Ernest Alfred AVERY was born about 1875, and was resident at 141 Patterson Street in Launceston when he enlisted; his wife was Ada, and they had one child, a daughter named Melvy/Melvie Pearl AVERY. All three were living at King Island following WW1 and received a pension. Ernest Alfred AVERY is buried at Carr Villa in Launceston - aged 53, buried 28 April 1921, Monumental Cemetery B7, no 293. At Carr Villa there is also Melvie Berle BUTLER who died aged 85 on 18 April 2011 (cremated), and Melvyn Pearl YULE who died aged 92 on 13 November 1992, possibly one of which is their daughter? On Colonial Families at Tas Archives, Ernest Alfred AVERY was born in Launceston in 1869, son of David AVERY and Hannah DAVIS (married Launceston 1865) - his siblings were Kate Elizabeth (1864), Alice Eliza (1867), Maria Ada (1873) and David Robert (1882). On the same index, Ada LUTTRELL was born in Hobart in 1872, the daughter of John LUTTRELL and Susannah EATON. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > On 28 Jan 1908 Ada LUTTRELL married Ernest Alfred AVERY at the Baptist > church in Launceston. > Will someone help me to identify these people and hopefully tell me what > became of them please? Regards, Val DATE

On 28 Jan 1908 Ada LUTTRELL married Ernest Alfred AVERY at the Baptist church in Launceston. Will someone help me to identify these people and hopefully tell me what became of them please? Regards, Val DATE

Val, Ernest Alfred Avery died in 19221  http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/51121885 hope that helps, elaine   On Saturday, May 31, 2014 7:22 PM, Val Date <val.date@sctelco.net.au> wrote:   On 28 Jan 1908 Ada LUTTRELL married Ernest Alfred AVERY at the Baptist church in Launceston. Will someone help me to identify these people and hopefully tell me what became of them please?  Regards, Val DATE ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would say that is the Ann Brooks mentioned on Rootschat David. thankyou Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scott" <david972scott@btinternet.com> To: "Tasmania research" <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:08 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] In Reply To: Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > Edie, > Don't know whether this is the right mother and daughter, but from the > Derby Mercury:P- > Anne Brookes (aged nineteen) for ftealing wearing apparel, to be > transported 7 years, and her mother Anne Brookes, for receiving the fame, > ditto 14 years. > 31 March 1791 - Derby Mercury - Derby, Derbyshire, England > > David Scott. > -----Original Message----- > From: Edie - Email Address: eamca@bigpond.com > Sent On: 30/05/2014 02:36 > Sent To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com - Email Address: > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks > 14years per the "Pitt" > > Hi, > Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies please. > There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann juniors > husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing is the crime > and the records. I am happy to go after the records if they are not > available I am presently putting the Cox family on my family treemaker. > John Cox, Samuel and Mary Ann Lucas, Susan Cox and John Thomas Flood. Then > the Flood family as their daughter Alice Caroline Flood married William > Laing another line of the family. I would like to find the Trial account. > Maybe there is someplace in NSW as they went to Port Jackson First, > arriving > 14th February 1792, "Pitt", then Norfolk Island before Van Diemans Land. > > I did send to the Archives Authroity of New South Wales 4th Feb 1985 they > checked the 1811 Colonial Muster for Van Diemans Land and Norfork Island. > Norfolk Island papers and the T.D Mutch Index to Births, marraiges and > deaths and sent me the first six childrens births and baptisms. Nothing > regarding the trial. So would be good if anyone is willing to share. I > think this was more to do with John Cox than Ann Brooks though Ech of the > children being Broks or Cox. > > thankyou for any help > Edie McArthur > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3722/7081 - Release Date: 05/29/14 > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ann BROOKS - BROOKES, Convict, Pitt 1792. Tried: Warwick Assizes, 19 March 1791. Sentence: 14 years transportation Family details in http://www.australianhistoryresearch.info/henry-fultons-baptism-burial-and-m arriage-records-of-1801-1806-on-norfolk-island/ as some of John Cox and Ann Brooks children were baptised on Norfolk island they married 21 January 1819, Tasmania Cathy Dunn Norfolk Island History Lovers March 2015: 225th anniversary HMS Sirius Shipwreck http://www.australianhistoryresearch.info/history-lovers-visit-to-norfolk-is land-2015/ -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edie Sent: Friday, 30 May 2014 3:39 PM To: MargM; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" Thanks for that Marg. I have findmypast so will also give that a try. I know the London times can be good for Trial accounts as well. thanks again Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com>; <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:36 AM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks > 14years per the "Pitt" > > >> Hi, >> Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies please. >> There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann juniors >> husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing is the >> crime and the records. > Hi Edie, > > Just read Meryl's reply re Warwick assizes. Our son in laws ancestor > who came here on the 3rd fleet Admiral Barrington 1792 He was tried > at Warwick 1789 and his record didnt survive ....... a few years ago > I got copy of a newspaper report of his brief trial via a cousin . > Was in the Birmingham Gazette . Very recently I tried via Findmypast > to get a better copy but gave up till I had more time to persevere > and maybe next time try via the British Library as have the date of > publication. FMP data bases used to be easy to search . I dont know > if this applies to all trials in Warwick in the late 1780's > > > bye > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3722/7081 - Release Date: 05/29/14

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Thanks for that Marg. I have findmypast so will also give that a try. I know the London times can be good for Trial accounts as well. thanks again Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com>; <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:36 AM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann > Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > > >> Hi, >> Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies >> please. >> There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann >> juniors >> husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing >> is the crime >> and the records. > Hi Edie, > > Just read Meryl's reply re Warwick assizes. Our son in laws > ancestor who came here on the 3rd fleet Admiral Barrington 1792 > He was tried at Warwick 1789 and his record didnt survive > ....... a few years ago I got copy of a newspaper report of his > brief trial via a cousin . Was in the Birmingham Gazette . Very > recently I tried via Findmypast to get a better copy but gave > up till I had more time to persevere and maybe next time try > via the British Library as have the date of publication. FMP > data bases used to be easy to search . I dont know if this > applies to all trials in Warwick in the late 1780's > > > bye > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast >

Thanks for that Meryl will give it a try. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meryl Yost" <merylp@tasfamily.net.au> To: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com>; <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > Hi Edie, > > Looks like you need to find out where the Warwick Assizes records are. > They > are both under Ann BROOK on the Convict Records of Australia website: > http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ > > regards, > Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists > AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:36 AM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks > 14years > per the "Pitt" > > > Hi, > Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies please. > There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann juniors > husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing is the crime > and the records. I am happy to go after the records if they are not > available I am presently putting the Cox family on my family treemaker. > John Cox, Samuel and Mary Ann Lucas, Susan Cox and John Thomas Flood. Then > the Flood family as their daughter Alice Caroline Flood married William > Laing another line of the family. I would like to find the Trial account. > Maybe there is someplace in NSW as they went to Port Jackson First, > arriving > 14th February 1792, "Pitt", then Norfolk Island before Van Diemans Land. > > I did send to the Archives Authroity of New South Wales 4th Feb 1985 they > checked the 1811 Colonial Muster for Van Diemans Land and Norfork Island. > Norfolk Island papers and the T.D Mutch Index to Births, marraiges and > deaths and sent me the first six childrens births and baptisms. Nothing > regarding the trial. So would be good if anyone is willing to share. I > think this was more to do with John Cox than Ann Brooks though Ech of the > children being Broks or Cox. > > thankyou for any help > Edie McArthur > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:36 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" > Hi, > Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies > please. > There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann > juniors > husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing > is the crime > and the records. Hi Edie, Just read Meryl's reply re Warwick assizes. Our son in laws ancestor who came here on the 3rd fleet Admiral Barrington 1792 He was tried at Warwick 1789 and his record didnt survive ....... a few years ago I got copy of a newspaper report of his brief trial via a cousin . Was in the Birmingham Gazette . Very recently I tried via Findmypast to get a better copy but gave up till I had more time to persevere and maybe next time try via the British Library as have the date of publication. FMP data bases used to be easy to search . I dont know if this applies to all trials in Warwick in the late 1780's bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

Hi Edie, Looks like you need to find out where the Warwick Assizes records are. They are both under Ann BROOK on the Convict Records of Australia website: http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ regards, Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie" <eamca@bigpond.com> To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:36 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Ann Brooks trns 7 years and her mother Ann Brooks 14years per the "Pitt" Hi, Has anyone ever found what the crime was for these two ladies please. There is a lot written about this mother and daughter and Ann juniors husband John Cox, soldier on the "Pitt:", but what is missing is the crime and the records. I am happy to go after the records if they are not available I am presently putting the Cox family on my family treemaker. John Cox, Samuel and Mary Ann Lucas, Susan Cox and John Thomas Flood. Then the Flood family as their daughter Alice Caroline Flood married William Laing another line of the family. I would like to find the Trial account. Maybe there is someplace in NSW as they went to Port Jackson First, arriving 14th February 1792, "Pitt", then Norfolk Island before Van Diemans Land. I did send to the Archives Authroity of New South Wales 4th Feb 1985 they checked the 1811 Colonial Muster for Van Diemans Land and Norfork Island. Norfolk Island papers and the T.D Mutch Index to Births, marraiges and deaths and sent me the first six childrens births and baptisms. Nothing regarding the trial. So would be good if anyone is willing to share. I think this was more to do with John Cox than Ann Brooks though Ech of the children being Broks or Cox. thankyou for any help Edie McArthur