Hi Greg, John Perkins is listed as a Labourer, Fellmonger and Tanner on his children's birth certificates. Appears to have lived at O'Brien's Bridge, Glenorchy through their births. Thee 1856 Electoral Roll has John Perkins occupying a house and land, White and Wright owners. (White and Write had a tannery at O'Brien's Bridge and a leather shop in Elizabeth St, Hobart.) Electoral Rolls up until 1874-5 have him in the same area. Then he disappears?? A John Perkins died at Hobart in 1875, a tanner - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-35346-5753-54?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 The General Hospital Record of Deaths book (HSD145) has the same information as the death certificate plus it states he was FS and arrived on the Layton (4). John Perkins per Layton (4) - Conduct Record - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-10,263,168,L,80 Appropriation List - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON27-1-9,198,36,L,80 Indent - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON27-1-9,198,36,L,80 Description - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON18-1-28,196,120,L,80 Old Bailey Trial - http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-449-18410104&div=t18410104-449#highlight What confirms this is the your John Perkins is the last entry on the convict conduct record in 1874 when he assaulted his wife. The matching entry is here in the Glenorchy lower court records - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23679-45044-48?cc=1935075&wc=MJ2P-PT5:1048366701,1048398601,1048398602 (Paste URL into browser if doesn't link automatically - image 140) Cheers, Peter On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Greg Connell < greg@midlandchiropractic.com.au> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I got great help before on the Marriage and Kids of John but > > Still totally stuck on John Perkins born circa 1830 > > Married Emma Howlett > > Children. Emma. John, Mary Anne, F, Harriet; M; Emily, James and > Charles William. > > Really would like to know a death and Parentage of John if at all > possible. Any other info greatly accepted > > Greg > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Trish, Thanks for searching so far and wide for this elusive man - I only checked Tas. and NSW for his death, like, you to no avail. I will contact the Bathurst Family History Group - they may be able to help. I'm fairly sure the man in Tas. in 1830 and 1831 is the same man - there don't seem to be any other convicts anywhere of that name during this period. Joseph Bonney Senior absconded in Sydney c. 1814, if my memory serves me correctly. He then popped up in V.D.L., and Gov. Tom Davey wrote a letter to Macquarie asking permission for him to remain, which request was granted. I've been thinking that something similar may have happened with Jibb. I found runaway notices for Bonney in NSW, but haven't found any relating to Jibb yet. The thing that confuses me the most is the fact that I can't find any convict record for him in Tas. - seems very strange considering his crimes. I'm guessing he was sent to Port Macquarie after he absconded in 1831, and that's why he was back in N.S.W. later. Talk about the invisible man! Best wishes, Carol. -----Original Message----- From: symonds3 [mailto:psym8950@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2014 6:54 PM To: AUS-TASMANIA Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Jibbs/Jibb/Jebb Hi Carol, Are you sure John JIBB who was transported to NSW is the same man you have found in VDL? John JIBB was transported to NSW onboard "Lord Melville", arrived 14 July 1829; to be in Hobart in 1830 he must have been sent on to VDL upon arrival, but there's nothing online that I could find to show him arriving in Tasmania. At the NSW State Archives - John JIBB shows up in the Bathurst district of NSW in 1837 when he was granted his ticket-of-leave - http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2213435 and his Conditional Pardon in 1847 - http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37127027 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37129213 Maybe the Bathurst Family History Group could offer a few suggestions on his whereabout after this time? - http://www.bathurstfhg.asn.au/index.shtml I couldn't find any deaths for him in NSW, Victoria, Queensland or New Zealand - maybe he changed his name and started a new life? Cheers Trish Nowra NSW I'm attempting to find the convict record for John Jibb who was sentenced to transportation in 1828 in Lincoln, along with my rellie William "Tulip" Wright and a number of others. He arrived in Sydney on the Lord Melville in 1829, and then I find him, both as Jibb and Jebb in VDL in 1830, and again, as Jebbs, in 1831. Carol Brill.

George MADDOCKS/MADDOX. He makes interesting reading on the Trove site. Had a son of the same name, and was the son of a George as well. Regards, Val Date

RE Gateway Baptist Church LAUNCESTON. I recently requested full details regarding the registration of the 1908 (January I think) marriage of Ada LUTTRELL and Alfred Ernest AVERY. Their reply stated they have Marriage records prior to 1895 and after 1910, but unfortunately the records for the period of time between those dates has been misplaced or may have even been lost. Would anyone know if those records are somewhere else please? I know I could pay $40 plus for a copy of the certificate from official sources, but am virtually cashless! The need to know what was written on the marriage certificate in relation to the parents etc of the bridal copy is because of the confusion created by the apparent union of Ada Isobel MANSFIELD nee STANLEY with an Ernest Alfred AVERY, resulting in total confusion for everyone who is researching both families, with an overlap of wrong deductions as to who was who! I know it is a long shot, but someone might just be able to offer a viable solution for me, I'm hoping that will be the case anyway, as are the descendants of Ada Isobel! Regards, Val Date

Hi, A lot of Libraries have subscriptions to this database. We have one at Wyndham Library Service, that can be accessed at any of our 4 Libraries. We are located in Hoppers Crossing, Werribee, Pt Cook and Wyndham Vale, Melbourne. Cheers, Karen s Hoppers Crossing

Hi Carol The site below has his original crime/s Cheers Bob http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/ConvictsDetails.aspx?convict_id=3012 -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Brill Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:50 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Jibbs/Jibb/Jebb Dear All, I'm attempting to find the convict record for John Jibb who was sentenced to transportation in 1828 in Lincoln, along with my rellie William "Tulip" Wright and a number of others. He arrived in Sydney on the Lord Melville in 1829, and then I find him, both as Jibb and Jebb in VDL in 1830, and again, as Jebbs, in 1831. I can't find any version of his surname among the convicts on the AOT site, nor in the Colonial Links site, yet he appeared in court and was convicted in 1829 and in 1831 - see below. John Jibb for stealing 8 bushels of wheat from his master Mr. Richard Troy, and Jas. M'Coy a quantity of tea from his master Mr. David Lord, were each sentenced to 7 years transportation. - The Hobart Town Courier 20 February 1830 and John Jebb was convicted of stealing eight bushels of wheat, value £2, from his master Mr. Richard Troy. - The Hobart Town Courier 30 January 1830 THEN At the Supreme Court on Monday, Rich. Crozier was tried and found guilty of being illegally at large while under sentence of transportation. These five prisoners - John Jebb, James M'Donald, John Barker, Mathew M'Avoy, Edward Broughton, pleaded guilty to the same charge for which Crozier was convicted. The whole of the prisoners were under sentence of either the Criminal Court of this colony or the Court of Quarter Session, and their offence by an Act of Council here subjects them to the penalty of death. - The Hobart Town Courier 2 July 1831 Any help in finding anything on this man's fate would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Carol Brill. ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Verna, I couldn't see George MADDOCK in the Tasmanian Archives "Colonial Families Index". There is a George Lakeland MADDOX, son of George MADDOX and Amily Elizabeth LAKELAND (possibly Emma Elizabeth LAKELAND), born 1854 in Launceston, could this be him? http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Is there some kind person on the list with information about George > MADDOCK. > He arrived in NSW about 1883. He was born in Hobart Tasmania in 1856. > Would there be some birth registered for him that I can access? > Verna Bode > Sydney

Hi Carol, Are you sure John JIBB who was transported to NSW is the same man you have found in VDL? John JIBB was transported to NSW onboard "Lord Melville", arrived 14 July 1829; to be in Hobart in 1830 he must have been sent on to VDL upon arrival, but there's nothing online that I could find to show him arriving in Tasmania. At the NSW State Archives - John JIBB shows up in the Bathurst district of NSW in 1837 when he was granted his ticket-of-leave - http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2213435 and his Conditional Pardon in 1847 - http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37127027 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article37129213 Maybe the Bathurst Family History Group could offer a few suggestions on his whereabout after this time? - http://www.bathurstfhg.asn.au/index.shtml I couldn't find any deaths for him in NSW, Victoria, Queensland or New Zealand - maybe he changed his name and started a new life? Cheers Trish Nowra NSW I'm attempting to find the convict record for John Jibb who was sentenced to transportation in 1828 in Lincoln, along with my rellie William "Tulip" Wright and a number of others. He arrived in Sydney on the Lord Melville in 1829, and then I find him, both as Jibb and Jebb in VDL in 1830, and again, as Jebbs, in 1831. Carol Brill.

Hello Listers Is there some kind person on the list with information about George MADDOCK. He arrived in NSW about 1883. He was born in Hobart Tasmania in 1856. Would there be some birth registered for him that I can access? Hoping to find something Verna Bode Sydney

Thanks Sally - These are the same newspapers available from the NLA, but the NLA also has some collections that LINC doesn't. The Brisih Newspaper Archives collection is much more extensive. Best wishes, Carol. -----Original Message----- From: narnty [mailto:sallynolan531@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2014 2:54 PM To: Carol Brill; 'Karlena Nagle'; 'Susan Geason'; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] BRITISH NEWSPAPERS Hi all, "British Newspapers 1600-1950 " is available online at LINC Tasmania. If you have a library card you can go to LINC and log onto the database. The Times Digital Archive 1785-2008 is also available without the use of a card. cheers Sally ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3955/7618 - Release Date: 06/03/14

Dear All, I'm attempting to find the convict record for John Jibb who was sentenced to transportation in 1828 in Lincoln, along with my rellie William "Tulip" Wright and a number of others. He arrived in Sydney on the Lord Melville in 1829, and then I find him, both as Jibb and Jebb in VDL in 1830, and again, as Jebbs, in 1831. I can't find any version of his surname among the convicts on the AOT site, nor in the Colonial Links site, yet he appeared in court and was convicted in 1829 and in 1831 - see below. John Jibb for stealing 8 bushels of wheat from his master Mr. Richard Troy, and Jas. M'Coy a quantity of tea from his master Mr. David Lord, were each sentenced to 7 years transportation. - The Hobart Town Courier 20 February 1830 and John Jebb was convicted of stealing eight bushels of wheat, value £2, from his master Mr. Richard Troy. - The Hobart Town Courier 30 January 1830 THEN At the Supreme Court on Monday, Rich. Crozier was tried and found guilty of being illegally at large while under sentence of transportation. These five prisoners - John Jebb, James M'Donald, John Barker, Mathew M'Avoy, Edward Broughton, pleaded guilty to the same charge for which Crozier was convicted. The whole of the prisoners were under sentence of either the Criminal Court of this colony or the Court of Quarter Session, and their offence by an Act of Council here subjects them to the penalty of death. - The Hobart Town Courier 2 July 1831 Any help in finding anything on this man's fate would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Carol Brill.

Hi all, "British Newspapers 1600-1950 " is available online at LINC Tasmania. If you have a library card you can go to LINC and log onto the database. The Times Digital Archive 1785-2008 is also available without the use of a card. cheers Sally

Are you using information from a death certificate? If you have a marriage certificate it would be more accurate information.........and can you give details on the marriage certificate please if you have it? On Wednesday, 4 June 2014 7:06 PM, symonds3 <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> wrote: Hi Verna, I couldn't see George MADDOCK in the Tasmanian Archives "Colonial Families Index".  There is a George Lakeland MADDOX, son of George MADDOX and Amily Elizabeth LAKELAND (possibly Emma Elizabeth LAKELAND), born 1854 in Launceston, could this be him? http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Is there some kind person on the list with information about George > MADDOCK. > He arrived in NSW about 1883.  He was born in Hobart Tasmania in 1856. > Would there be some birth registered for him that I can access? > Verna Bode > Sydney ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol, On Trove item in The Australian (Sydney) 20 February 1847 notice of a Conditional Pardon granted to John Jibb ,Lord Melville 2. Not sure if that means he was back in NSW at that time. Rose

Hi Karlena, I already have a library card from the NLA and it's great, but there seem to be heaps more newspapers on the British Newspaper Archives site. It looks brilliant, but now not only can I not purchase a subscription, I can't even search for the snippet views I could look at free yesterday. This is after a stack of emails back and forth when I've changed my password, cleared my cache, done this, done that! They don't seem to think the problem is at their end, when a number of others are writing about the same problems as me on their Facebook page. So different to the NLA who rush to fix things as soon as possible, from my experience. And so frustrating, as I've found some wonderful snippets and can't read the articles in full until I subscribe. I have dozens of convicts in my extended family so I love the coverage of small regional towns the British Newspaper Archives gives - I've found much more on the few people I had a chance to check yesterday than I could find among the NLA's wonderful e-resources. Best wishes, Carol. -----Original Message----- From: Karlena Nagle [mailto:karltas@live.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 2:17 PM To: 'Carol Brill'; 'Susan Geason'; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] BRITISH NEWSPAPERS Hi Carol, Are you aware that by getting a library card from the National Library of Australia, free via their website, you can access the British Newspaper Archive for free? Just go to nla.gov.au select eresources and at the top of the page is a link to order a library card. It takes a few days for the card to arrive in the mail then you can access any of the eresources from your home computer. Regards Karlena

Hi Carol, Are you aware that by getting a library card from the National Library of Australia, free via their website, you can access the British Newspaper Archive for free? Just go to nla.gov.au select eresources and at the top of the page is a link to order a library card. It takes a few days for the card to arrive in the mail then you can access any of the eresources from your home computer. Regards Karlena -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Brill Sent: Monday, 2 June 2014 8:23 PM To: 'Susan Geason'; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] BRITISH NEWSPAPERS Hi Susan - Thanks for mentioning this site - I've had a sneak preview today but after getting 3 freebies OK evrything has gone pear-shaped. I and at least one other person on their Facebook page are both unable to subscribe, either for a month or annually. So frustrating, so many emails back and forth, but no luck. I've seen so many articles already that I'd love read in full. I've given up for today and have asked for an email when everything is up and running properly again. It reminds me just how lucky we are here with the NLA and Trove! Theirs is no where near as good as Trove and it costs about $140 for a years'subscription - senior pensioners like me will find that a bit steep, but I've decided that it will give me a year's pleasure, when and if I CAN subscribe! I'm already a member of the NLA and have access to their e-resources, including the Gale Group's British Newspapers, which are great, but there are dozens more newspapers on this site - it seems terrific in that respect! Best wishes, Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Geason [mailto:susan@susangeason.com] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2014 3:50 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] BRITISH NEWSPAPERS I suppose all you cognoscenti know that the British Newspapers Archive is a gold mine and has expanded greatly? I've found all sorts of wonderful stuff in it. http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/?sisearchengine=1068&siproduct=Emai l&utm_campaign=wp&utm_medium=email&utm_source=uk&utm_content=59502&sisearche ngine=1068&siproduct=Email&utm_campaign=improvements&utm_medium=email&utm_so urce=uk&utm_content=59502 Susan Geason ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone I got great help before on the Marriage and Kids of John but Still totally stuck on John Perkins born circa 1830 Married Emma Howlett Children. Emma. John, Mary Anne, F, Harriet; M; Emily, James and Charles William. Really would like to know a death and Parentage of John if at all possible. Any other info greatly accepted Greg --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Susan - Thanks for mentioning this site - I've had a sneak preview today but after getting 3 freebies OK evrything has gone pear-shaped. I and at least one other person on their Facebook page are both unable to subscribe, either for a month or annually. So frustrating, so many emails back and forth, but no luck. I've seen so many articles already that I'd love read in full. I've given up for today and have asked for an email when everything is up and running properly again. It reminds me just how lucky we are here with the NLA and Trove! Theirs is no where near as good as Trove and it costs about $140 for a years'subscription - senior pensioners like me will find that a bit steep, but I've decided that it will give me a year's pleasure, when and if I CAN subscribe! I'm already a member of the NLA and have access to their e-resources, including the Gale Group's British Newspapers, which are great, but there are dozens more newspapers on this site - it seems terrific in that respect! Best wishes, Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Geason [mailto:susan@susangeason.com] Sent: Friday, 30 May 2014 3:50 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] BRITISH NEWSPAPERS I suppose all you cognoscenti know that the British Newspapers Archive is a gold mine and has expanded greatly? I've found all sorts of wonderful stuff in it. http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/?sisearchengine=1068&siproduct=Emai l&utm_campaign=wp&utm_medium=email&utm_source=uk&utm_content=59502&sisearche ngine=1068&siproduct=Email&utm_campaign=improvements&utm_medium=email&utm_so urce=uk&utm_content=59502 Susan Geason

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Hi Mike, I find one eventually leads to the other. To understand the person, you also need to understand the life, times and community in which they live. Cheers John Hammond -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hurburgh [mailto:mike_robin@aapt.net.au] Sent: Monday, 2 June 2014 10:47 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Cc: John Hammond Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] History of Town Boards John, Well done - we need more people like you researching interesting aspects of early Tasmania. Research into family history tends to focus on the details of individuals and families and, for amateur historians like us, the wider aspects of life are far more difficult to discover and describe. Thank you. -- Regards Mike Hurburgh --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com