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    1. [AUS-Tas] Arrival in VDL of James Middleton and Family
    2. Don Bradmore
    3. Dear Listers James MIDDLETON arrived in VDL from London with his wife Susannah and daughter, also Susannah, at some time between October 1832 and July 1835. In his early fifties, James was a moderately well-to-do engineer, his wife was perhaps a little older and their daughter about twenty. It is probable that they travelled in reasonable style and comfort but their arrival is not listed on the TAHO website. Are there any other places in which I might look for their arrival? In case it helps, James was the proprietor of 'The Hit and Miss' Hotel at Hamilton at the time of his death in 1850. Good wishes, Don Bradmore, Central Victoria.

    07/03/2014 10:02:35
    1. [AUS-Tas] Joseph FLOOD, born Dublin c1763-1808, convict per "BODDINGTON" arrd NSW 1793 from Cork.
    2. Edie
    3. Hi, Has anyone researching this family of Joseph FLOOD as above, broke down the brickwall as to where in Dublin, Ireland and to whom he was born, date, etc, please. I have everything I need back to his crime commited as appears in the Freemans Journal and book written by Barbara Hall re convicts per the Boddington. To my knowledge, no one has the name of his parents and Parish in Dublin, where he was born and correct date. If it is available and there is a film I can hire out from the LDS in Burnie, that would be great. Our family descends from Joseph and Ann Germaines son John FLOOD born Sydney, NSW 24 September 1797-1854. John was married to Margaret WATSON born 22 Dec 1799-1869, NSWon 25 Oct 1818 St Phillips, NSW. Their son John Thomas FLOOD, born 6 June1830-1898 at Cressy, Tas, who was married to Susannah Cox on 1st Dec, 1853 , daughter of Samuel COX and Mary Ann LUCAS was our line. John Thomas FLOOD and Susan FLOOD nee COX were the parents of our Alice Caroline Alberta FLOOD born 29 Sept 1857-1938, who married William LAING 2 June 1886-1920, our line. thanks for any help Edie McArthur

    07/03/2014 09:19:49
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839
    2. Helen
    3. Probably ka pai which means good/well done! Cheers Helen -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Brill Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 5:08 p.m. To: 'Tasmania' Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839 Dear Julie and list, This man I've just tripped over is interesting - apparently he was a seaman as early as 1826, and was still in Hobart town more than a decade later. I can't positively find him on the Colonial Links site, but he looks as though he was a resident for some time, and there are John Tynans on the Col. Links site. I wonder if anyone can identify the meaning of the word "Carpoi" too? John Tynan, a New Zealander, exquisitely tatooed, was charged with having fallen into the prevailing vice of the Europeans, for which he was ordered to pay the usual penalty. Carpoi, said John, as he left the bar, apparently well satisfied with the result. - Colonial Times 12 November 1839 Tynan John Seaman Sydney Packet 25 May 1826 Hobart Port Jackson CSO63/1/1 p222 Best wishes, Carol Brill. ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2014 11:44:50
    1. [AUS-Tas] Sarah Crocket email
    2. Carol Brill
    3. Dear All, Sorry - this email was not meant for the list - I don't know how I managed to send it to the list, - Best wishes, Carol.

    07/02/2014 11:11:15
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839
    2. Carol Brill
    3. Dear All, Wow! What a talented multi-lingual group this is - "carpoi" = Maori for good. Thanks to Julie in NZ, Peter, and Helen for their extemely quick resplies, Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: Julie Thorne [mailto:juliethorne@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 3:19 PM To: Carol Brill Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839 Kapai? means good Might help - I don't speak Maori. Julie -----Original Message----- From: Carol Brill Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:08 PM To: 'Tasmania' Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839 Dear Julie and list, This man I've just tripped over is interesting - apparently he was a seaman as early as 1826, and was still in Hobart town more than a decade later. I can't positively find him on the Colonial Links site, but he looks as though he was a resident for some time, and there are John Tynans on the Col. Links site. I wonder if anyone can identify the meaning of the word "Carpoi" too? John Tynan, a New Zealander, exquisitely tatooed, was charged with having fallen into the prevailing vice of the Europeans, for which he was ordered to pay the usual penalty. Carpoi, said John, as he left the bar, apparently well satisfied with the result. - Colonial Times 12 November 1839 Tynan John Seaman Sydney Packet 25 May 1826 Hobart Port Jackson CSO63/1/1 p222 Best wishes, Carol Brill. ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7779 - Release Date: 07/01/14

    07/02/2014 10:35:14
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839
    2. Peter Oakley
    3. I think "Carpoi" roughly translates to "good" or "will do very well" in the Maori language. Peter On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Carol Brill <seebee.cazza@bigpond.com> wrote: > Dear Julie and list, > > > > This man I've just tripped over is interesting - apparently he was a seaman > as early as 1826, and was still in Hobart town more than a decade later. I > can't positively find him on the Colonial Links site, but he looks as > though > he was a resident for some time, and there are John Tynans on the Col. > Links > site. I wonder if anyone can identify the meaning of the word "Carpoi" too? > > > > John Tynan, a New Zealander, exquisitely tatooed, was charged with having > fallen into the prevailing vice of the Europeans, for which he was ordered > to pay the usual penalty. Carpoi, said John, as he left the bar, apparently > well satisfied with the result. - Colonial Times 12 November 1839 > > > > Tynan John Seaman Sydney Packet 25 May 1826 Hobart Port Jackson > CSO63/1/1 p222 > > > > Best wishes, > > Carol Brill. > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/02/2014 09:33:30
    1. [AUS-Tas] John Tynan - an "exquisitely tattoed" Maori 1839
    2. Carol Brill
    3. Dear Julie and list, This man I've just tripped over is interesting - apparently he was a seaman as early as 1826, and was still in Hobart town more than a decade later. I can't positively find him on the Colonial Links site, but he looks as though he was a resident for some time, and there are John Tynans on the Col. Links site. I wonder if anyone can identify the meaning of the word "Carpoi" too? John Tynan, a New Zealander, exquisitely tatooed, was charged with having fallen into the prevailing vice of the Europeans, for which he was ordered to pay the usual penalty. Carpoi, said John, as he left the bar, apparently well satisfied with the result. - Colonial Times 12 November 1839 Tynan John Seaman Sydney Packet 25 May 1826 Hobart Port Jackson CSO63/1/1 p222 Best wishes, Carol Brill.

    07/02/2014 09:08:08
    1. [AUS-Tas] Sarah Crocket [sic] + Dallas Arms
    2. Carol Brill
    3. Hi Andrew, I remembered this morning that William Bunster owned the Dallas Arms for a while, and had a little search through the NLA for anything new on that building. I came across this article re. your rellie Sarah Cocker and wondered whether you have it. I've corrected the entire article and I'm happy to send it to you in an email (a long one!) if you'd like me to. Colonial Times (Hobart, Tas. : 1828 - 1857) Wednesday 18 May 1831 p 3 Article... tho Dallas Arms ; and on Monday he went to New Norfolk ; he was on that day overtaken by Stenhouse ... together ; Dr. Wilde went down with me to Town, I left him at the Dallas Arms, on the New Town Road. ... 3233 words ".....Sarah Crocket sworn, said, I was servant to Mr. Stallard, but was taken from that service by Mr. Mulgrave at the time Mr. Wilde was sent to gaol; I remember seeing some rings and seals in the possession of Mr. Wilde; it was one night when he slept at Mr. Stallard's, about two months ago; it was on a Wednesday or Thursday, but I don't know which; I think it was on Wednesday, but am not certain;....." All the best, Carol.

    07/02/2014 08:53:01
    1. [AUS-Tas] Re request British Newspapers Archive....access to
    2. guykermode
    3. I would like to thank all those who responded to my request for their help. I have gained access and am having a wonderful time with interesting "finds". Again my thanks, Guy

    07/02/2014 07:57:17
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Don Bradmore
    3. Hi Listers, Many thanks to Meryl, Irene, Maree, Trish and Amanda for their prompt replies to my queries about conduct records of 1804 convicts and 'HMS Calcutta'. My understanding of the situation is still not perfect but a lot better than it was! All good wishes, Don Bradmore, Central Victoria. -----Original Message----- From: Meryl Yost [mailto:merylp@tasfamily.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014 9:11 AM To: Don Bradmore; AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803 Hi Don, The convicts per Calcutta were transferred to VDL from Port Phillip on various ships including the Ocean. On the AOT convict index they are all listed as arriving on the Calcutta. Their records are in CON 22 which doesn't look to be available online as yet: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 regards, Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bradmore" <djb100@mmnet.com.au> To: <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803 Dear Listers, I feel sure that this question will have been asked before but I still don't know the answer: Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Have they not survived? Incidentally, on the TAHO site, these 290+ convicts are listed as having been brought to VDL on 'HMS Calcutta', but that is incorrect, isn't it? They actually arrived on 'Ocean'. Certainly, they had been brought to Port Phillip on 'HMS Calcutta' but when COLLINS decided to abandon that settlement, the captain of 'HMS Calcutta (WOODRIFF) refused to go to VDL. He sailed straight back to England (via Sydney), leaving COLLINS no choice but to use the store ship 'Ocean' to transfer his settlement to the Derwent. Is there any dispute about that? Why then are these convicts listed as having arrived on 'HMS Calcutta'? Don Bradmore, Central Victoria. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2014 04:58:45
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Maree Ring
    3. Dear Don and listers, Don, You asked for the conduct records of the convicts to Port Phillip 1803. If you look at http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=CON31 you will see that these records date from Jan 1818. In the wisdom of TAHO and Linc Tasmania, they have redeveloped their website and access to the old "Guide to the public records of Tasmania. Section three Convict Department" can now be found on line through http://stors.tas.gov.au/au-7-0038-00120 (use Firefox Mozilla or similar, not Internet Explorer as it won't work/open properly in the latter!) If you do a search (Ctrl F) for CON 31 you will find on page 27 Chapter 7: "CONDUCT REGISTERS CONDUCT REGISTERS OF MALE CONVICTS ARRIVING IN THE CON 31 PERIOD OF THE ASSIGNMENT SYSTEM 1803-1843. 48 vols. The primary purpose of these volumes was to record the behaviour of the convict while he underwent his sentence in the colony; Lieutenant-Governor Arthur's ideal has been referred to (see Introduction), and it was begun to be put into effect in these volumes, in 1827, when Edward Cook, transported law stationer, went to the Chief Police Magistrate's residence near New Norfolk. ...for the purpose of completing a new set of Black Books (under the Superintendence of Josiah Spode Esq re Muster Master) upon a most extensive scale comprising the List of offences of 12305 prisoners with the particulars and nature of their several Offences together with the Original Offence Gaol and Hulk Reports...Memorialist remained at Humphreyville twelve Months for the before mentioned purpose & was during that period employed 14 or 15 hours a Day & very frequently on Sundays. Cook's work, therefore, consisted in entering up the new registers retrospectively; it is not always clear what records he used for the purpose, for no other sources now exist for some of the particulars recorded for convicts who arrived as early as 1806. The fact that they were entered retrospectively also explains the mistakes in chronological order which occur the more frequently the earlier the period. Not all convicts who arrived are included here, even though some of the earlier entries are completely blank except for the number, name and ship." Cheers, Maree On 1/07/2014 5:43 PM, Don Bradmore wrote: > Dear Listers, I feel sure that this question will have been asked before but > I still don't know the answer: Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts > who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to > the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, > where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Have they > not survived? Incidentally, on the TAHO site, these 290+ convicts are > listed as having been brought to VDL on 'HMS Calcutta', but that is > incorrect, isn't it? They actually arrived on 'Ocean'. Certainly, they had > been brought to Port Phillip on 'HMS Calcutta' but when COLLINS decided to > abandon that settlement, the captain of 'HMS Calcutta (WOODRIFF) refused to > go to VDL. He sailed straight back to England (via Sydney), leaving > COLLINS no choice but to use the store ship 'Ocean' to transfer his > settlement to the Derwent. Is there any dispute about that? Why then are > these convicts listed as having arrived on 'HMS Calcutta'? Don Bradmore, > Central Victoria. > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/02/2014 04:25:08
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Judy H
    3. It's also worth remembering that in the early days of the colonies of NSW and VDL record-keeping was scrappy and inconsistent. As others have noted, VDL was part of the colony of NSW, and responsible to Sydney, where some convicts records were sent. In VDL, it was Lieut. Gov Sorell who began to keep more systematic records, from the time of his arrival in 1817. By this time quite a few of the first convicts had completed their sentences, so many details of what happened after their arrival here were lost. If they re-offended, however, some of this history re-emerges. It was Lieut. Gov. Arthur who really systematised the convict records, from the time VDL became a separate colony in 1825. But even in he first years of Arthur's rule, there is much less detail than in later years. And, of course, quite a large amount of these records has been lost in one way or another. Judy

    07/02/2014 03:52:36
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Re British Newspapers Archive....access to?
    2. Carol Brill
    3. Hello Guy, I get in to the site this way: I Google "e-resources NLA", click on the e-resources link that comes up, and arrive at this site: http://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/ There is a box on the top right hand side of this page where you type in your family name and the number on your NLA card. Once you've done that you're in. If you have any further problems please contact me, Good luck, Carol Brill. -----Original Message----- From: guykermode [mailto:guykermode@aapt.net.au] Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 12:20 PM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re British Newspapers Archive....access to? I am trying to access the British Newspapers Archive. (Link previously posted here) I have a National Library card which I believe is required however I just cannot work out how to use it on this site. I admit to feeling rather foolish in asking but I really do need help. Thanks, Guy

    07/02/2014 03:31:14
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Meryl Yost
    3. Hi Don, The convicts per Calcutta were transferred to VDL from Port Phillip on various ships including the Ocean. On the AOT convict index they are all listed as arriving on the Calcutta. Their records are in CON 22 which doesn't look to be available online as yet: http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11 regards, Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bradmore" <djb100@mmnet.com.au> To: <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803 Dear Listers, I feel sure that this question will have been asked before but I still don't know the answer: Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Have they not survived? Incidentally, on the TAHO site, these 290+ convicts are listed as having been brought to VDL on 'HMS Calcutta', but that is incorrect, isn't it? They actually arrived on 'Ocean'. Certainly, they had been brought to Port Phillip on 'HMS Calcutta' but when COLLINS decided to abandon that settlement, the captain of 'HMS Calcutta (WOODRIFF) refused to go to VDL. He sailed straight back to England (via Sydney), leaving COLLINS no choice but to use the store ship 'Ocean' to transfer his settlement to the Derwent. Is there any dispute about that? Why then are these convicts listed as having arrived on 'HMS Calcutta'? Don Bradmore, Central Victoria. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2014 03:10:40
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Irene Schaffer
    3. Dear John and Trish and list, All convicts who arrived in VDL from 1803 are recorded on the Tasmanian State Library under convicts. Example: John Hagan arrived per Calcutta 1803. He is on the muster list for 1803-1804 page 7 (Land Musters and Stock Lists 1803-1822) Regards Irene ----- Original Message ----- From: "symonds3" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: "AUS-TASMANIA" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803 > Hi Don, > > Port Phillip was in the Colony of New South Wales when the "Calcutta" > arrived there in 1803. Wouldn't the surviving records be in NSW? 307 > convicts embarked, and 8 deaths recorded. A number of the convicts appear > on the NSW Archives website (just choose Calcutta from the drop-down list > of > ship's names and leave everything else blank; then, from the results you > get, look for those who arrived 1803) the list gives dates etc for > Conditional and Absolute Pardons etc > http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=65 > > The Colonial Secretary's Papers Index may have some of the names listed - > http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm > > A number of NSW convict records did not survive - I haven't found any > Conduct Records for my convicts in NSW - > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/convicts/new-south-wales-convict-records-lost-and-saved > > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > > Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts >> who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip >> to >> the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, >> where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. > Don Bradmore, >> Central Victoria. > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2014 02:49:26
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. symonds3
    3. Hi Don, Port Phillip was in the Colony of New South Wales when the "Calcutta" arrived there in 1803. Wouldn't the surviving records be in NSW? 307 convicts embarked, and 8 deaths recorded. A number of the convicts appear on the NSW Archives website (just choose Calcutta from the drop-down list of ship's names and leave everything else blank; then, from the results you get, look for those who arrived 1803) the list gives dates etc for Conditional and Absolute Pardons etc http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=65 The Colonial Secretary's Papers Index may have some of the names listed - http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm A number of NSW convict records did not survive - I haven't found any Conduct Records for my convicts in NSW - http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/convicts/new-south-wales-convict-records-lost-and-saved Cheers Trish Nowra NSW Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts > who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to > the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, > where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Don Bradmore, > Central Victoria.

    07/02/2014 01:54:55
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Irene Schaffer
    3. Dear Don, you are right about the convicts arriving at Port Phillip on the Calcutta and then went to VDL by the Ocean and the Lady Nelson. The Calcutta stayed at Port Phillip filling the ship with timber before going on to Sydney then back to England. This was not the reason why Collins went to VDL, he had already made up his mind to leave Port Phillip as he was not prepared to set up a settlement there, lack of water etc. Their indents are with the other convicts who came later and you can view them on line through the Tasmanian Library site. The full list for the convicts who came with Collins can be found in my Land Grants and stock List 1803-1822 book. Regards from a not so warm Brisbane. Irene Irene Schaffer Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bradmore" <djb100@mmnet.com.au> To: <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:43 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803 > Dear Listers, I feel sure that this question will have been asked before > but > I still don't know the answer: Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts > who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to > the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, > where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Have they > not survived? Incidentally, on the TAHO site, these 290+ convicts are > listed as having been brought to VDL on 'HMS Calcutta', but that is > incorrect, isn't it? They actually arrived on 'Ocean'. Certainly, they > had > been brought to Port Phillip on 'HMS Calcutta' but when COLLINS decided to > abandon that settlement, the captain of 'HMS Calcutta (WOODRIFF) refused > to > go to VDL. He sailed straight back to England (via Sydney), leaving > COLLINS no choice but to use the store ship 'Ocean' to transfer his > settlement to the Derwent. Is there any dispute about that? Why then > are > these convicts listed as having arrived on 'HMS Calcutta'? Don > Bradmore, > Central Victoria. > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2014 01:08:49
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Conduct records of VDL convicts, 1803
    2. Amanda & Dmitri Wenn
    3. Hi Don, I found the records of one of my ancestors on microfiche, so they still exist in some form. I can't answer your second question, except that there is a large book called 'Convicts Unbound' by Marjorie Tipping that tells the story of these convicts and lists their transport as the Calcutta. Amanda Wenn > On 1 Jul 2014, at 5:43 pm, "Don Bradmore" <djb100@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Dear Listers, I feel sure that this question will have been asked before but > I still don't know the answer: Are conduct records for the 290+ convicts > who were brought across Bass Strait from the settlement at Port Phillip to > the Derwent by David COLLINS in January 1804 still available, and if so, > where are they? I can't find them via the TAHO search portal. Have they > not survived? Incidentally, on the TAHO site, these 290+ convicts are > listed as having been brought to VDL on 'HMS Calcutta', but that is > incorrect, isn't it? They actually arrived on 'Ocean'. Certainly, they had > been brought to Port Phillip on 'HMS Calcutta' but when COLLINS decided to > abandon that settlement, the captain of 'HMS Calcutta (WOODRIFF) refused to > go to VDL. He sailed straight back to England (via Sydney), leaving > COLLINS no choice but to use the store ship 'Ocean' to transfer his > settlement to the Derwent. Is there any dispute about that? Why then are > these convicts listed as having arrived on 'HMS Calcutta'? Don Bradmore, > Central Victoria. > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/01/2014 09:55:20
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] William Morris marriage Sorell, 1831
    2. symonds3
    3. Hi Peter, I don't know if the TPI has more info than the registration (No 1738): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-35347-3670-62?cc=2125029&wc=M93C-9CJ:1789920630 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Would anyone with the TPI be able to do a lookup for the marriage of > William Morris to Elizabeth Smith 1831 at Sorell ? > Peter

    07/01/2014 04:16:38
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] William Morris marriage Sorell, 1831
    2. Patricia
    3. Names as given, Date - 10 May 1831 Registration Place - Sorell Reg. Number 1738 RGD Number 36 Patricia > Hi Listers, > > Would anyone with the TPI be able to do a lookup for the marriage of > William Morris to Elizabeth Smith 1831 at Sorell ? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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