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    1. [AUS-Tas] WILLIAMS families
    2. Elaine Jefferson via
    3. Hi to all I have a problem that I hope some one can help with After nearly 15 years on hunting the Williams from Tas I have not long downloaded a will for Henry Williams who died 1886 his spouse Mary Ann or Marion BAILEY. This is old news I know but upon reading the will for Henry , he mentions his wife's illegitimate son Walter Sinclair whom he adopted. His words in the will I would like to know who this fellow married and what happened to him. I checked the TPI and Federation Indexes and found Walter St Clair Williams marrying but no more This "son' was executor to Henry's will and he was to share in the will also with his half siblings and he was formerly employed by Mr Keach of Ross as coachman If anyone can come up with anything I would be very appreciative Thanks Elaine in Melbourne

    07/18/2014 04:16:15
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries Post
    2. barnsy.sue via
    3. Hi List Thank you so much for yours replys but unfortunately it is not my Martha, as she was married to Thomas Smith, and her maiden name was Fagan, I really appreciate you help. Sue Sent from Windows Mail

    07/17/2014 09:34:11
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries
    2. Karlena Nagle via
    3. Hi Sue and the list, I am a descendant of William Sale and Martha SMITH nee SHELDRICK. In the 1970s members of the family erected the headstone at the Henry St Anglican cemetery. The date of death displayed for William and Martha was based on private family records. The family records aolso showed that the couple were buried at Henry St but there is no record of the exact location of the grave or of any surviving headstone. The death certificate for the only Martha SMITH to die in 1877 gives the death date as 18th May 1877. Martha is shown as a widow and the local minister JC Bramwell was the informant. Martha's burial is recorded in the Sorell Burial Register (NS 432/13 - 17 film SLT X/AO/EP/380 page 793 ) This source was a microfilm held by the then State Library in the early 1980s, when I found it. The Tasmanian Archives and Heritage Office should be able to convert it to the current film numbers. The above information is alsao recorded in the book, A Seamless Web, Part 1, the first 150 years. By Freda Gray, another descendant of William Sale and Martha SMITH. There is no sign of newspaper notices for the death of Martha. I would be interested to see what record gave you the details of your Martha's death date? It seems odd that there was only 10 days between the deaths of the two Martha's. There was only one Martha SMITH recorded as dying in the Tasmanian Death & Burial Registers in 1877. There were only 3 recorded on the TPI for 1803 - 1899. Regards Karlena -----Original Message----- From: barnsy.sue via Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 5:27 AM To: AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries Hello List I am searching for the burial of MARTHA SMITH who died 28th May 1877 age 82 in Sorell, I would like the burial date, location of grave, photo of headstone if available please. MARTHA SMTH (nee Fagan) was a Convict She was my 5th Great Grandmother, she was married Thomas Smith (Convict) in 1817 Any information would be gratefully accepted, thank you. Regards Sue Sent from Windows Mail ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/17/2014 04:41:21
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries
    2. Peter Oakley via
    3. Conundrum here?? It appears the headstone photo of William Sale Smith and Martha Sheldrick Smith was the Martha Smith that died in 1877. Appears the descendants of this couple have claimed her as their own?? So either they've claimed the wrong Martha Smith or Martha Fagan Smith is buried elsewhere? cheers, Peter On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sue, > > Sorell C of E burial register (NS432/1/17) -presumably St Georges in > Sorell proper. > > Name - Margaret Smith #793 > Abode - Bream Creek > Buried - May 18 1877 > Age - 82 > Quality or Prof. - Widow > Officiating Minister - C J Bramell > > If you search Gravesites of Tasmania there is no headstone photograph for > he at St Georges, so she probably never had one. The only Martha Smith in > the Sorell area shown is this one and she's not a Fagan - > > > http://www.gravesoftas.com.au/municipalities/Sorell/Sorell%20Henry%20Street%20Anglican/5/Smith%20Martha.jpg > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 5:27 AM, barnsy.sue via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > >> Hello List >> >> >> I am searching for the burial of MARTHA SMITH who died 28th May 1877 age >> 82 in Sorell, >> >> I would like the burial date, location of grave, photo of headstone if >> available please. >> >> >> MARTHA SMTH (nee Fagan) was a Convict >> >> She was my 5th Great Grandmother, she was married Thomas Smith (Convict) >> in 1817 >> >> >> Any information would be gratefully accepted, thank you. >> >> >> Regards Sue >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Windows Mail >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

    07/17/2014 09:13:18
    1. [AUS-Tas] Being on her own hands
    2. Don Bradmore via
    3. Hello Listers, At Hobart in 1830 a female convict in whom I'm interested was charged with 'being on her own hands'. As punishment, she was 'to be placed under the special surveillance of the police until the pleasure of the Lieutenant-Governor be known'. Can someone explain to this naive enquirer what the phrase 'being on her own hands' implies, please? The woman had married in Hobart two years earlier and had three children - one born before the marriage. Does 'being on her own hands' imply that she had left her husband? Does it have the same meaning as being 'on the town'? There is nothing in the woman's record, before or afterwards, to suggest 'on the town' experience. Don Bradmore, Central Victoria.

    07/17/2014 07:30:26
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries
    2. Peter Oakley via
    3. Hi Sue, Sorell C of E burial register (NS432/1/17) -presumably St Georges in Sorell proper. Name - Margaret Smith #793 Abode - Bream Creek Buried - May 18 1877 Age - 82 Quality or Prof. - Widow Officiating Minister - C J Bramell If you search Gravesites of Tasmania there is no headstone photograph for he at St Georges, so she probably never had one. The only Martha Smith in the Sorell area shown is this one and she's not a Fagan - http://www.gravesoftas.com.au/municipalities/Sorell/Sorell%20Henry%20Street%20Anglican/5/Smith%20Martha.jpg Cheers, Peter On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 5:27 AM, barnsy.sue via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello List > > > I am searching for the burial of MARTHA SMITH who died 28th May 1877 age > 82 in Sorell, > > I would like the burial date, location of grave, photo of headstone if > available please. > > > MARTHA SMTH (nee Fagan) was a Convict > > She was my 5th Great Grandmother, she was married Thomas Smith (Convict) > in 1817 > > > Any information would be gratefully accepted, thank you. > > > Regards Sue > > > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/17/2014 07:25:26
    1. [AUS-Tas] John Smith (nee Fagan)
    2. barnsy.sue via
    3. Hello List I am trying to find more information about my John Smith, son of Thomas Smith & Martha Fagan. He first married Eliza Leary in 1842 (as John Fagan) and had an unnamed female child. I don’t know if they divorced or she died, but he remarried as John Smith in 1853 to Catherine Joyce and they had nine children, the 1st 3 unnamed. After that he is a mystery. Where did he die? Where is he Buried? same for his wives and children. Anyone that can help I would really appreciate it please. Regards Sue Sent from Windows Mail

    07/16/2014 02:02:55
    1. [AUS-Tas] Sorell Cemeteries
    2. barnsy.sue via
    3. Hello List I am searching for the burial of MARTHA SMITH who died 28th May 1877 age 82 in Sorell, I would like the burial date, location of grave, photo of headstone if available please. MARTHA SMTH (nee Fagan) was a Convict She was my 5th Great Grandmother, she was married Thomas Smith (Convict) in 1817 Any information would be gratefully accepted, thank you. Regards Sue Sent from Windows Mail

    07/16/2014 01:27:12
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Deaths and Burials in the Parish of St John's New Town by Rosemary Davidson
    2. Hi Trish Yes, I had her death cert and details from the Orphans site, was just missing her burial which Peter Oakly has kindly supplied. Thank you both :) Samantha On 15/07/2014 11:13 AM, symonds3 wrote: > Hi Samantha, > > Have you seen the death record at www.familysearch.org ? > 15 August 1870, Esther EDGE, (died Queen's Asylum), female, 10 years, > Rachitis > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6842-56?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 > > (Rachitis = rickets/inflammation of the spine). > > The Orphans website shows her as Esther EDGE, daughter of Thomas EDGE > (arrived per "David Clarke") and Sarah ORRAN/HAROLD (arrived per > "Margaret"), admitted to the orphanage aged 9 years on 15 February > 1869, discharged to her married sister on 1 September 1869; admitted > to hospital 18 September 1869 and died 15 August 1870; buried at St > John's Church Yard at New Town. > http://www.orphanschool.org.au/suffer.php > > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:09 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Deaths and Burials in the Parish of St John's New > Town by Rosemary Davidson > > >> Hi >> >> Hoping someone has access to this book - looking for a burial of an >> Esther EDGE, orphan of Queen's Asylum, died 15 Aug 1870 >> >> Thanks >> >> Samantha >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

    07/15/2014 08:16:28
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Deaths and Burials in the Parish of St John's New Town by Rosemary Davidson
    2. Ref # BO624 Name - Esther Edge Abode - QOS New Town Burial Date - 17 Aug. 1870 Age - 10 Remark/Prof - Inmate of Queens Asylum TPI or Fed Index - 15 Aug.1870 Cheers, Peter On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi > > Hoping someone has access to this book - looking for a burial of an > Esther EDGE, orphan of Queen's Asylum, died 15 Aug 1870 > > Thanks > > Samantha > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/15/2014 08:13:42
    1. [AUS-Tas] FW: FW: Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. Sorry - I meant this to go to the list as well as the recipients below - Carol Brill -----Original Message----- From: Carol Brill [mailto:seebee.cazza@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:18 AM To: 'Irene Schaffer'; 'Julie Gough'; 'Graeme & Wynnette Ford' Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] FW: Rabbit skin vests WW1 Dear All, This topic reminded me of an interesting article I stumbled across recently regarding early convict clothing. Here's an excerpt: "VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. (From the Colonist.)....The whole of the convicts at Port Arthur are in future to be clothed in sheep skin leather jackets, waistcoats and trowsers, by which arrangement it is computed that a saving of £1 per man per annum will be expected. The skins for the first six months are to be supplied by Mr. Baynton, and the cost of the material per each suit will be 6s. 3d. The plan has its advantages, which are - 1st, economy, and 2d, the consumption of a colonial article, which has hitherto been but little used in preference to an imported one...." The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW ) 20 January 1835. Clearly convicts wore imported sheepskin clothing prior to the date of this article - I for one I haven't heard of this form of clothing being used for convicts before. I'd thought they shivered through the winter in their woollen "canary" suits. There seems to be a long tradition of fur-lined clothing in VDL. Also, I've found that there are numerous unique articles in The True Colonist newspaper, excerpts of which appear often in mainland and other VDL newspapers from 1832 to around 1840 - it's interesting to search for Van and True Colonist on Trove just to see what comes up. If anyone would like the complete article, I'm happy to post it on this site if I have enough requests, otherwise I'll send it to each person who asks for a copy. Best wishes, Carol Brill. PS I absolutely love the fascinating things I come across in Trove, when I'm searching for something specific!

    07/15/2014 05:44:14
    1. [AUS-Tas] Deaths and Burials in the Parish of St John's New Town by Rosemary Davidson
    2. Hi Hoping someone has access to this book - looking for a burial of an Esther EDGE, orphan of Queen's Asylum, died 15 Aug 1870 Thanks Samantha

    07/15/2014 04:09:04
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. My father (born 1903) lived in Oatlands during WWI & from a surprisingly early age regularly went out shooting rabbits. I think rabbit stew must have been a standard item on the family dinner table, but also know that his main focus was selling the skins. He released caged ferrets that would scurry down burrows & chase rabbits up to the surface, & had a pet dog that was good at chasing any rabbits that got away. He took great care in skinning the rabbits & pegging out their hides to dry & had a ready market for the skins. Hard for me to reconcile all this with his lifelong genuine love of animals, but the hunting & selling seems to have been expected of him. I have no idea whether any of Dad's rabbit skins found their way into vest manufacture, but the family had older sons fighting with the AIF overseas & certainly were involved in other forms of war effort. The only facts I can add to the current inquiry are that at the time rabbits were abundant in the Oatlands district, & that there was market demand for their skins. Best wishes. Joan -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:50 AM To: Irene Schaffer ; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 Sorry meant to say with the fur on the outside not the skin, as would have been expected. Irene > Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has > personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the > soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in > 1915 in Hobart. > > My question is where would they have got them from and who would have made > them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing > one with the skin outside. > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/15/2014 01:59:01
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] FW: Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. Many thats to all who sent messages re rabbit skins. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi > hi everyone > > I saw this great exhibition in Queensland Museum recently : > > "Remember me: the lost diggers of Vignacourt" > > - that is touring all around Australia - including Tasmania > > https://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/ > > Anyhow - a lot of the images show diggers wearing sheepskin and other fur > items of clothing > > Julie > > > On 14 July 2014 14:16, <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Graeme & Wynnette Ford [mailto:graemeford.1@bigpond.com] >> Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 1:35 PM >> To: 'Irene Schaffer' >> Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 >> >> Hi Irene and list, >> >> Saw a brief program on this topic sometime in the past few months. >> >> Cannot find the exact reference for it at the moment, but here is a link >> which leads to a commercially produced page which has a picture and small >> history attached. >> >> http://www.mortels.com.au/shop/home.php?printable=Y&cat=37 >> >> The program may even have been connected to the reproduction of these >> vests, >> as some of the material looks familiar. >> >> Ah, I have found that if you Google "TANNED SHEEPSKIN CLOTHING >> COMMITTEE", >> it brings up numerous references, including original newspaper articles >> and >> the "Stitch in Time" Landline program I saw on the ABC. >> >> However, so far, I have seen no direct references to the Girl Guides. >> >> Sorry Irene. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Wynnette. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 10:26 AM >> To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 >> >> Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has >> personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the >> soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in >> 1915 in Hobart. >> >> My question is where would they have got them from and who would have >> made >> them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing >> one with the skin outside. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Irene >> >> Irene Schaffer >> Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com >> http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 >> >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/15/2014 01:01:17
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] FW: Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. hi everyone I saw this great exhibition in Queensland Museum recently : "Remember me: the lost diggers of Vignacourt" - that is touring all around Australia - including Tasmania https://www.awm.gov.au/exhibitions/remember-me/ Anyhow - a lot of the images show diggers wearing sheepskin and other fur items of clothing Julie On 14 July 2014 14:16, <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graeme & Wynnette Ford [mailto:graemeford.1@bigpond.com] > Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 1:35 PM > To: 'Irene Schaffer' > Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 > > Hi Irene and list, > > Saw a brief program on this topic sometime in the past few months. > > Cannot find the exact reference for it at the moment, but here is a link > which leads to a commercially produced page which has a picture and small > history attached. > > http://www.mortels.com.au/shop/home.php?printable=Y&cat=37 > > The program may even have been connected to the reproduction of these > vests, > as some of the material looks familiar. > > Ah, I have found that if you Google "TANNED SHEEPSKIN CLOTHING COMMITTEE", > it brings up numerous references, including original newspaper articles and > the "Stitch in Time" Landline program I saw on the ABC. > > However, so far, I have seen no direct references to the Girl Guides. > > Sorry Irene. > > Cheers, > > Wynnette. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 10:26 AM > To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 > > Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has > personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the > soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in > 1915 in Hobart. > > My question is where would they have got them from and who would have made > them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing > one with the skin outside. > > > Regards > > Irene > > Irene Schaffer > Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com > http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/14/2014 08:24:01
    1. [AUS-Tas] FW: Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. -----Original Message----- From: Graeme & Wynnette Ford [mailto:graemeford.1@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 1:35 PM To: 'Irene Schaffer' Subject: RE: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 Hi Irene and list, Saw a brief program on this topic sometime in the past few months. Cannot find the exact reference for it at the moment, but here is a link which leads to a commercially produced page which has a picture and small history attached. http://www.mortels.com.au/shop/home.php?printable=Y&cat=37 The program may even have been connected to the reproduction of these vests, as some of the material looks familiar. Ah, I have found that if you Google "TANNED SHEEPSKIN CLOTHING COMMITTEE", it brings up numerous references, including original newspaper articles and the "Stitch in Time" Landline program I saw on the ABC. However, so far, I have seen no direct references to the Girl Guides. Sorry Irene. Cheers, Wynnette. -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 14 July 2014 10:26 AM To: aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in 1915 in Hobart. My question is where would they have got them from and who would have made them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing one with the skin outside. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7848 - Release Date: 07/13/14

    07/14/2014 08:16:03
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. Sorry meant to say with the fur on the outside not the skin, as would have been expected. Irene > Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has > personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the > soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in > 1915 in Hobart. > > My question is where would they have got them from and who would have made > them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing > one with the skin outside. > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2014 04:50:10
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. Thank you Ainslie, yes I know from writing about hats for my Bidencope Book that rabbit skins were plentful at that time (and earlier) In 1874 3,858,372 skins were bought off the rabbiters and sent to England to be made into fur and returned to be made into hats at Bidencope's, valued at 3,525/3/10 pounds. maybe the rabbiters gave them to the Guides? to send with the other gifts they were sending to the front. Regards anyone with any suggestions. Irene > If Tasmania was anything like NZ in that era then there were plenty of > rabbit skins around!!! > > The Akubra hat was made from rabbit fur - and these 'grew' out of the > Diggers' slouch hats. > > http://www.army.gov.au/Our-history/Traditions/The-Slouch-Hat > > Cheers > Ainslie >

    07/14/2014 04:47:08
    1. Re: [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1 -slouch hats
    2. Hi again Irene and list. R.M Williams- Outback clothiers in Adelaide -made the slouch hats -and still do make boots, hats and clothing for the Stock and Station folk- and the general population who want such gear. I had two consecutive trips travelling through the US giving carving classes to folk I'd met on the internet 'carvers' list' (99 and again in 2000) I bought myself an RM Williams Arkubra hat before the first visit and could have sold it hundreds of times over!! It was great to get off a plane or train and have my next host family instantly recognise the hat! It saved them holding up a flag with my name on it! Cheers Ainslie.

    07/14/2014 04:41:22
    1. [AUS-Tas] Rabbit skin vests WW1
    2. Dear list, a little bit off the track but I was wondering if anyone has personal oral history about girl guides collecting rabbit skins for the soldiers in WW1, I have found a reference on Trove that they did this in 1915 in Hobart. My question is where would they have got them from and who would have made them into vests and sent them off. I found a photo with a soldier wearing one with the skin outside. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Email: irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi

    07/14/2014 04:26:08