Hi folks There was a programme on BBC Radio 4 this morning which may be of interest to FH researchers. It's one of a series called 'Voices from the Old Bailey and today's was about Transportation. You can read about it and listen again here http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04g10zc. LucyAnn

As I understand this as I've been following this with interest. Patricia has all ready stated that the Register for Kyneton Cemetery was not started till1853 that is a year after the death. It could be worth your while trying to make contact with David Weatheralland see if he might be able to help as there could be something held in the Archives with Human Services within the Kyneton Cemetery Folder. Yours Sincerely, Raymond Henderson. On 04/09/2014, at 1:50 AM, Elaine Hanford via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Carol, > interesting to note that the 11 Sep 1852 death notice in the Cornwall Chronicle http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/6557836 says: > At Kyneton, Victoria, on the 13th ult., Benjaminthird son of William James Cockerell late ofCircular Head, V. > D. Land, aged ten years. > > this appears to be when his father, W. J. Cockerell, sailed for Melbourne: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/36262200 though there is no mention of Benjamin: > > December 23 [1851]. - Sailed the schooner Ellen andMary, 27 tons, John Hills, master, for > Melbourne.Cargo - 4 horses, 1 cart, > Alford. Passengers -Messrs. Whitbread, > McHale, J. R. Lucas, ThomasGray, James Gray, John Brindley, James DoddAlford, W. J. Cockerell; and John Long, JohnMarriott, George Abel, James Hay, James > Cooper, Henry Smith, Samuel Whitbread, John Morris. > > Perhaps I've just muddied the waters.... > cheers, > Elaine > TAS descendant in Reno, Nevada > > On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:23 AM, Patricia via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Carol, > he isn't on the Victorian CD, NSW both CD and online, and not on Tasmanian > CD Death records. > Maybe if you contact Kyneton cemetery they may have a record of his burial. > sorry I can't help. > Good luck with your search > Patricia > >> Dear All, >> >> For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell >> died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and >> second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his >> death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers >> can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death >> notices >> popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: >> >> "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James >> Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The >> Argus, 25 August, 1852. >> >> Fingers crossed, >> >> Carol Brill. >> >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Elaine and everyone on the list who has written -This is my website and I wrote the article you quote from. It's also the information copied verbatim most times by a zillion others and placed all over the Internet. I'm now aware of the reason why I can't find Benjamin's death certificate now thanks to all those kind people who wrote about the July 1853 Vic. registration start date aswell. And, to add injury to insult, the local newspaper started the year after Benjamin's death as well. Best wishes, Carol. From: Elaine Hanford [mailto:ejhanford@att.net] Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2014 1:56 AM To: Patricia; Carol Brill; aus-tasmania Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Vic. death lookup Benjamin Cockerell 18532 Carol, you might also want to check out the following website: http://www.heavenandhelltogether.com/?q=node/105 which states: Just under a year later Mary Ann, now in her early forties, had her last known child when Mary Celestine Carroll was born on 13 December 1851 in Horton, Tasmania. [?] The newborn would not have been aware of the death of her half-brother Benjamin Cockerell on 13 August 1852 in Kyneton, Victoria. [?] Benjamin "Lived at Circular Head with his mother before going to Victoria to join his brothers. Benjamin left Circular Head on the Alexander and arrived in Melbourne 29 July 1848. He died at Kyneton aged nineteen. No Death certificate has been found, nor the site of his burial, as the existing records for the Kyneton Cemetery start the year after his death Cheers, Elaine TAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:23 AM, Patricia via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: Carol, he isn't on the Victorian CD, NSW both CD and online, and not on Tasmanian CD Death records. Maybe if you contact Kyneton cemetery they may have a record of his burial. sorry I can't help. Good luck with your search Patricia > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8145 - Release Date: 09/02/14

Hi Roseanne, Here's Thomas Drake's death certificate and photo of his headstone at St Peter's, Hamilton, plus his marriage certificate to Hester Matthews - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-35348-7469-14?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-F68:387524001,387590301,387691001 http://www.gravesoftas.com.au/municipalities/Bothwell/Images/Hamilton%20St%20Peters%20Anglican/1/Drake%20Thomas.JPG https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-35347-14793- 48?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-4M9:387523601,387551301,387603201 I strongly suspect he is the Thomas Drake who arrived as a convict on the "Red Rover". His age at death matches this convict very well - http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/c31a31100094 This convict appears in the Hamilton Lower Court records LC208/1/4 1843-1850. So he was definitely in the right area. see below - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24181-4662-26?cc=1935075&wc=MJ2P-BZS:1048366701,1048401301,1048402501 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24181-4537-26?cc=1935075&wc=MJ2P-BZS:1048366701,1048401301,1048402501 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24181-4456-25?cc=1935075&wc=MJ2P-BZS:1048366701,1048401301,1048402501 His wife Hester Matthews arrived on the "Australasia" in 1852 aged 32, a free immigrant. She was general Servant and needlewoman. She was employed by Rev. George Wright. The same minister who married her to Thomas Drake in 1855. Two years after Thomas' death Hester Victoria Drake remarried to a Patrick McDonnell - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-11151-94?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-C38:387523601,387551301,387626201 Hope that helps... Cheers, Peter On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Rosanne Lewis via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Can anybody give me any details of Thomas Drake who may have lived in > Bothwell & Hamilton. Is buried in St Peters Anglican Church in Hamilton > Tasmania > > Died 23 August 1861, aged 57 years. > > Thank you > > Rosanne > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi again Carol, He is in many Ancestry trees, un-sourced in the main, this one may provide a little more information; http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25247810/person/12565414017?ssrc= The Huon New Norfolk Historical Photo Album Research Project-Tasmania.In wonderful collaberation with Helen Boutell & Eric Mobbs <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25247810/family?fpid=12565414017> Benjamin Cockerell Birth 12 Jul 1833 in Richmond, Van Diemen's Land Death 13 Aug 1852 in Kyneton, Victoria 1852 Burial <http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25247810/person/12565414017/fact/40477518129> Benjamin left Circular Head on the Alexander and arrived in Melbourne 29 July 1848. He died at Kyneton aged nineteen. No Death certificate has been found, nor the site of his burial, as the existing records for the Kyneton Cemetery start a year later On 3/09/2014 10:47 AM, Carol Brill via wrote: > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol, he isn't on the Victorian CD, NSW both CD and online, and not on Tasmanian CD Death records. Maybe if you contact Kyneton cemetery they may have a record of his burial. sorry I can't help. Good luck with your search Patricia > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol, Have you contacted the Victorian registrar? Given that you have the name, date and place, surely they should be able to check for you? Ray On 3/09/2014 10:47 AM, Carol Brill via wrote: > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear All, For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death notices popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The Argus, 25 August, 1852. Fingers crossed, Carol Brill.

Hi Carol, Just a follow up on my previous email. I did a bit of googling, and there are many websites that confirm that civil registrations began in Victoria in 1853, including the Registry's website. Some even confirm the actual date as 1st July. I also have an ancestor who died just prior to 1-7-1853, and have not been able to find anything about him, not even a newspaper entry or a burial. Chris. On 3 September 2014 10:29, Ray Hayes via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Carol, > > Have you contacted the Victorian registrar? > > Given that you have the name, date and place, surely they should be able > to check for you? > > Ray > > On 3/09/2014 10:47 AM, Carol Brill via wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin > Cockerell > > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first > and > > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - > The > > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > > > Fingers crossed, > > > > Carol Brill. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Carol, My understanding is that civil registrations didn't start in Victoria until 1st July 1853. As such the only records available for Aug 1852 will be burial records, which are very hit and miss. I think this explains why you cannot find his death certificate. Registrations didn't exist yet. Have you looked/found a burial record for him? Hoping others can confirm my understanding about Victorian Registrations. Regards, Chris. On 3 September 2014 10:17, Carol Brill via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Chris, I can't help with crew lists but I do have some info on the history of the *Rachel Thompson*. The 52 ft. (overall), 16 ton fishing smack *Rachel Thompson *was built by my great X3 grandfather, Jacob Chandler, at Battery Point (Tas.) in 1877 for Llewellyn (Louis) Jones. The vessel was launched on Saturday 26 May 1877. She was ketch-rigged and, at the time of launch, described as the “most commodious fishing smack owned in the port”. The vessel was estimated to hold 30 to 40 dozen fish. The *Rachel Thompson *went into service at the end of June 1877, first arriving in Melbourne with a catch of rock-cod, perch and crayfish in mid-July. She spent several years involved in the deep-sea fishing trade off the east coast of Tas. and into Bass Strait, transporting her catch to Hobart or Melbourne to be sold. In 1884, she was notably in Sydney being commended for having brought with her a cargo of live fish from Tasmania deemed to be in excellent condition. This event was due to vessel’s holds which were perforated along the bottom and sides to allow water to flow through, thereby keeping the fish in a natural state. The live fish were so eagerly received that Captain Jones was urged to return with a similar cargo as soon as possible. However, before the vessel left port she was chartered by the New South Wales Fisheries Commission to examine the possibility of transporting live fish caught off the New South Wales coast to Sydney for immediate sale. This experiment proved successful, with the fish determined to be in excellent condition and fit for sale. The *Rachel Thompson *continued her regular deep-sea fishing runs along Tasmania’s east coast, and occasional private charters up until 1901. However, disaster struck the vessel in August of 1901 when lying at anchor, at Pleasant Boat Harbour near St. Helens, Tas., Captain Jones and two crew decided to flee the vessel during a storm and make for the safety of the shore. Unfortunately, the dinghy in which they were travelling was swamped and overturned, drowning Captain Jones and one of the crew. The *Rachel Thompson *survived the storm, and in 1904 an advertisement appeared in *The Mercury *classifieds seeking for a certified master to take the vessel to Port Adelaide. However, she was back in Hobart the following year and involved in the recovery of items from the wreck of another fishing boat, the *Lucy Adelaide*. By 1907, the *Rachel Thompson *was owned by the Rattenbury Brothers and being chartered for fishing excursions off Tasmania’s east coast. Though she changed hands several more times, she continued in this role up until July of 1922 when she was unfortunately wrecked at Victoria Rocks, near Eddystone Point, Tas., during a storm; her crew landing safely. There is a photo of the vessel available here: http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?id=NS2511-1-166 Nicole On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Chris Nilsen via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > His name was George Willis. > He married Jane Read on 28-10-1872 at the residence of the Congregational > Church Minister. > He was aged 20, she 18. > He was a mariner. > The ship I do not know. > But in Dec. 1879 there is mention of him in court records and newspaper > articles that state he was a seafaring man who had gone fishing. > I am pretty sure that at that time he was a crew member aboard the vessel > 'Rachel Thompson'. > It seems as though crew lists for the 'Rachel Thompson' are not available > but some of the vessels that sailed just after his marriage are. > I have been compiling a list of possible vessels in the hope that one day I > can visit Tassie and have a search at those crew lists. > I can place him in Hobart in the period 1872-1879, but prior to that and > beyond that I am at a loss. > Ship lists should at least tell me if he was a native of VDL. > Any help would be appreciated. > Regards, > Chris. > Adelaide. > > On 1 September 2014 10:47, Mike Hurburgh <mike_robin@aapt.net.au> wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > Why don't you tell the list the name of your ancestor, the vessel and the > > details of his marriage, especially the name of his bride - there is sure > > to be someone who can tell you more. The list has 500+ subscribers and > > there are not too many requests which go unanswered. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:34:05 +1000, Chris Nilsen < > > nilsen.christopher@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Excellent. > >> Thank you so much for your help. > >> My plan is to hopefully get to the archives one day ( I live far away ) > >> and > >> search through the crew lists for vessels to try to find some details of > >> my > >> ancestor. > >> He has been very elusive. > >> However I know he was a mariner, and I also know his marriage date. So I > >> figured he must have been in Hobart on the day he was married. > >> So I have been searching the newspapers to see what vessels left Hobart > in > >> the following month or two after the marriage date. > >> Hopefully if I get to the archives I can look at those vessels and he > >> might > >> be a crew member of one. > >> You have to start somewhere I guess. > >> Thanks for the info. > >> Chris. > >> > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > Mike Hurburgh > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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Carol, you might also want to check out the following website: http://www.heavenandhelltogether.com/?q=node/105 which states: Just under a year later Mary Ann, now in her early forties, had her last known child when Mary Celestine Carroll was born on 13 December 1851 in Horton, Tasmania. [?] The newborn would not have been aware of the death of her half-brother Benjamin Cockerell on 13 August 1852 in Kyneton, Victoria. [?] Benjamin "Lived at Circular Head with his mother before going to Victoria to join his brothers. Benjamin left Circular Head on the Alexander and arrived in Melbourne 29 July 1848. He died at Kyneton aged nineteen. No Death certificate has been found, nor the site of his burial, as the existing records for the Kyneton Cemetery start the year after his death Cheers, Elaine TAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:23 AM, Patricia via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: Carol, he isn't on the Victorian CD, NSW both CD and online, and not on Tasmanian CD Death records. Maybe if you contact Kyneton cemetery they may have a record of his burial. sorry I can't help. Good luck with your search Patricia > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. >

Carol, interesting to note that the 11 Sep 1852 death notice in the Cornwall Chronicle http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/6557836 says: At Kyneton, Victoria, on the 13th ult., Benjaminthird son of William James Cockerell late ofCircular Head, V. D. Land, aged ten years. this appears to be when his father, W. J. Cockerell, sailed for Melbourne: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/36262200 though there is no mention of Benjamin: December 23 [1851]. - Sailed the schooner Ellen andMary, 27 tons, John Hills, master, for Melbourne.Cargo - 4 horses, 1 cart, Alford. Passengers -Messrs. Whitbread, McHale, J. R. Lucas, ThomasGray, James Gray, John Brindley, James DoddAlford, W. J. Cockerell; and John Long, JohnMarriott, George Abel, James Hay, James Cooper, Henry Smith, Samuel Whitbread, John Morris. Perhaps I've just muddied the waters.... cheers, Elaine TAS descendant in Reno, Nevada On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:23 AM, Patricia via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: Carol, he isn't on the Victorian CD, NSW both CD and online, and not on Tasmanian CD Death records. Maybe if you contact Kyneton cemetery they may have a record of his burial. sorry I can't help. Good luck with your search Patricia > Dear All, > > For years I've been trying to discover how and why 'my' Benjamin Cockerell > died, but try as I might, with any number of permutations of his first and > second names, I can't find him on the Vic BDM site, in order to buy his > death certificate. I wonder whether one of you wonderful lateral thinkers > can find him on a Vic CD for me please? Here's one of his many death > notices > popsted in Vic. and VDL newspapers: > > "At Kyneton, on the 18th instant, Benjamin, third son of William James > Cockerell, aged 19 years, late of Circular Head, Van Diemen's Land." - The > Argus, 25 August, 1852. > > Fingers crossed, > > Carol Brill. > >

Sue, Its just a thought but one that could be worth looking into, as its the case with my own family here in Victoria. My Great Grand Mother died in 1950 and was cremated her ashes for some reason were kept in my Grand Mothers wardrobe as I remember this as a child but it wasn't until the death of my Grand Mother in 1965, that my Grand Father and I drove down to Traralgon Cemetery and lifted the large Granit Headstone on my Great Grand Fathers grave and placed the box of ashes under the Headstone, but if anyone was to check the Cemetery records you would not find her listed even though at that stage we had permission to place the ashes under the headstone of my Great Grand Father. My point in telling this story is that if her late Husband is buried there her ashes could have been put there as well Yours Sincerely, Raymond Henderson. On 02/09/2014, at 11:00 PM, Dean Hodge via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sue, > looks like I had a hit at > http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=8 > 1337 > > http://www.millingtons.com.au/records-search > > It appears from the records that she was cremated, not buried, on 15 May > 1973. > > Tyenna is a place betwixt and between Maydena and Mt Field. It is a place > to the north of New Norfolk and is classed as being up in the top end of the > Derwent Valley. If you use Google Earth you can type in the following > co-ordinates and you can view the cemetery, although the records from > Millington's appear not to show where she may have been laid to rest. > 42°43’31.23” S 146°40’29.40” E > > Cheers, Dean > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of subarn via > Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 01:19 > To: AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] A Place called TYEENA ??? > > Hi List > > Does anyone know of a place named Tyeena, also Tyeena General Cemetery? > > I have a BATCHELOR, Lenna May, (nee Bramich) who is supposed to have died on > > 12/05/1973 in Tyeena (unsourced of course). > > I cannot find her death or burial, I need you help again please. > > Thank you, regards > > Sue > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue tack 1337 on the end of RecordID so it =81337 -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dean Hodge via Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:00 To: 'subarn'; AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] A Place called TYEENA ??? Sue, looks like I had a hit at http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=8 1337 http://www.millingtons.com.au/records-search It appears from the records that she was cremated, not buried, on 15 May 1973. Tyenna is a place betwixt and between Maydena and Mt Field. It is a place to the north of New Norfolk and is classed as being up in the top end of the Derwent Valley. If you use Google Earth you can type in the following co-ordinates and you can view the cemetery, although the records from Millington's appear not to show where she may have been laid to rest. 42°43’31.23” S 146°40’29.40” E Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of subarn via Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 01:19 To: AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] A Place called TYEENA ??? Hi List Does anyone know of a place named Tyeena, also Tyeena General Cemetery? I have a BATCHELOR, Lenna May, (nee Bramich) who is supposed to have died on 12/05/1973 in Tyeena (unsourced of course). I cannot find her death or burial, I need you help again please. Thank you, regards Sue ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

His name was George Willis. He married Jane Read on 28-10-1872 at the residence of the Congregational Church Minister. He was aged 20, she 18. He was a mariner. The ship I do not know. But in Dec. 1879 there is mention of him in court records and newspaper articles that state he was a seafaring man who had gone fishing. I am pretty sure that at that time he was a crew member aboard the vessel 'Rachel Thompson'. It seems as though crew lists for the 'Rachel Thompson' are not available but some of the vessels that sailed just after his marriage are. I have been compiling a list of possible vessels in the hope that one day I can visit Tassie and have a search at those crew lists. I can place him in Hobart in the period 1872-1879, but prior to that and beyond that I am at a loss. Ship lists should at least tell me if he was a native of VDL. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Chris. Adelaide. On 1 September 2014 10:47, Mike Hurburgh <mike_robin@aapt.net.au> wrote: > Chris, > > Why don't you tell the list the name of your ancestor, the vessel and the > details of his marriage, especially the name of his bride - there is sure > to be someone who can tell you more. The list has 500+ subscribers and > there are not too many requests which go unanswered. > > > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:34:05 +1000, Chris Nilsen < > nilsen.christopher@gmail.com> wrote: > > Excellent. >> Thank you so much for your help. >> My plan is to hopefully get to the archives one day ( I live far away ) >> and >> search through the crew lists for vessels to try to find some details of >> my >> ancestor. >> He has been very elusive. >> However I know he was a mariner, and I also know his marriage date. So I >> figured he must have been in Hobart on the day he was married. >> So I have been searching the newspapers to see what vessels left Hobart in >> the following month or two after the marriage date. >> Hopefully if I get to the archives I can look at those vessels and he >> might >> be a crew member of one. >> You have to start somewhere I guess. >> Thanks for the info. >> Chris. >> > > -- > > Regards > > Mike Hurburgh > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > >

Sue, looks like I had a hit at http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=8 1337 http://www.millingtons.com.au/records-search It appears from the records that she was cremated, not buried, on 15 May 1973. Tyenna is a place betwixt and between Maydena and Mt Field. It is a place to the north of New Norfolk and is classed as being up in the top end of the Derwent Valley. If you use Google Earth you can type in the following co-ordinates and you can view the cemetery, although the records from Millington's appear not to show where she may have been laid to rest. 42°43’31.23” S 146°40’29.40” E Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of subarn via Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2014 01:19 To: AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-Tas] A Place called TYEENA ??? Hi List Does anyone know of a place named Tyeena, also Tyeena General Cemetery? I have a BATCHELOR, Lenna May, (nee Bramich) who is supposed to have died on 12/05/1973 in Tyeena (unsourced of course). I cannot find her death or burial, I need you help again please. Thank you, regards Sue ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

To: AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com Hello List, Does anyone have information on Samuel Paul and Elizabeth (Eliza Smith who m in Hobart 3 Oct 1876. Their children were; William John b 1877 d 1922 Hobart; Elizabeth Ethelene b 1883; Ernest Leslie (bapt Henry Ernest) b 1890 d 1940 Hobart,; Walter Francis b 1898 (bapt Walter Travers) d 1948 Hobart Thank you Ray

Hi Sue, Tyeena General Cemetery headstone photos are recorded on 'Gravesites of Tasmania'. Lenna May BATCHELOR doesn't appear there but she may not have a headstone or could possibly be one of the unknown graves recorded? http://www.gravesoftas.com.au/municipalities/New%20Norfolk/Tyenna%20General.htm Cheers, Peter On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Hanford via < aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Sue, > > there is a brief description and history at: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyenna,_Tasmania > > and info on Tyenna Valley: > http://www.tasmaniavisitorsguide.com.au/tyenna_valley.php > > cheers, > Elaine > TAS descendant in Reno, Nevada > > > On Monday, September 1, 2014 4:15 PM, subarn via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hi List > > Does anyone know of a place named Tyeena, also Tyeena General Cemetery? > > I have a BATCHELOR, Lenna May, (nee Bramich) who is supposed to have died > on > > 12/05/1973 in Tyeena (unsourced of course). > > I cannot find her death or burial, I need you help again please. > > Thank you, regards > > Sue > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List Does anyone know of a place named Tyeena, also Tyeena General Cemetery? I have a BATCHELOR, Lenna May, (nee Bramich) who is supposed to have died on 12/05/1973 in Tyeena (unsourced of course). I cannot find her death or burial, I need you help again please. Thank you, regards Sue