Hi Karen, In 1870 he is listed as owner and occupier of 130 Melville Street. Ray On 02/10/2014 10:46 PM, Karen Dunham via wrote: > Hi all, If anyone is scrolling through the Valuation Rolls at LINC Hobart > would you be able to look for the numbers of the houses in Melville St that > George Board lived at from 1870 to 1873? > > Karen Dunham, Penguin > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi all, If anyone is scrolling through the Valuation Rolls at LINC Hobart would you be able to look for the numbers of the houses in Melville St that George Board lived at from 1870 to 1873? Karen Dunham, Penguin

Dear List, after nearly 5 months away in Queensland I am back in my little nest, its always good to come back to my favourite place. I am looking for the family of Grooms, James Charles and his brother Francis and wondered if anyone knew if there has been a book written about this family. They lived at Hayfield Cullenwood and Gaiters at Leffey Rivulet. Anything information would be appreciated. Regards Irene Irene Schaffer Hobart 2/5a Marys Hope Road Rosetta 7010 03 62 722 124 irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Mabel, if you use the link to go to the search page, look to the right of the search area and you will see two circles - you need to click on All. You actually need to do this for each new Search, otherwise it is just searching through the current 'results' You can then narrow it down to years, or convicts or births or whatever by using Include or exclude in each category. Or you can just use a first & second name. It then allows you to go through the ones that are left which go directly to the page you want. As Douglas said - you no longer have to go through by trial & error. In the case of say a Mabel Smith - it will also throw up births under her married name. It is fantastic, I have already in a few hours covered areas I have been unable to get to for years. cheers Sally -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mabel Harvey via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:43 AM To: "Douglas" <douglas@burbury.net> Cc: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Tasmanian Names Index - LINC - TAHO > I must be doing something wrong as went to the link and what ever family > name I put in it keeps telling me know results. this can't be right as I > have seen results on the old site. Doesn't even want to give me any > results > for Jones. tried going to a few other pages and still no luck just felt > like I was going round in circle I'm obviously doing something wrong but > would like to take a look perhaps someone can give me a pointer > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Douglas via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> It looks like the convict records are indexed to the actual page too, >> rather than just the whole book. So you don't have to use trial & error >> to search back and forth for the page you want. >> >> This will really speed up searches! >> >> Douglas >> >> >> On 1/10/2014 2:57 PM, Ray Hayes via wrote: >> > Thanks very much Meryl, >> > >> > Great to see that the results for births, deaths and marriages link >> > directly to an image of the register page. Much easier than browsing >> > on >> > Family Search looking for the register page images. >> > >> > Ray >> > >> > >> > On 01/10/2014 12:20 PM, Meryl Yost via wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: >> >> http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ >> >> >> >> The index includes links to many digitised records as well as >> non-digitised >> >> that you can order copies of online. >> >> >> >> You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the >> >> various >> >> TAHO indexes. >> >> >> >> regards, >> >> Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists >> >> AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul. As Douglas points out the Lower Court records are unavailable for that period in Launceston but the Police Charge books do cover 1884. You may find details relating to the charge and the people involved - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=POL450 Cheers, Peter On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Paul Booth via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello List, > > Just a very broad question to begin with. Are there any recored that still > exist that pertain to the Police Courts in Launceston circa 1884. > > I have a mention in the Launceston Daily Telegraph and would like to delve > deeper. > > Thanks > > Paul > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, Just a very broad question to begin with. Are there any recored that still exist that pertain to the Police Courts in Launceston circa 1884. I have a mention in the Launceston Daily Telegraph and would like to delve deeper. Thanks Paul

Hi Paul, It would appear not. There is a gap in the records of the Launceston Court of Petty Sessions records held by LINC in Hobart between 1848 and 1914. What they do have can be seen from the following: http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=LC346 The digitised records on the FamilySearch website appear to mirror the LINC holdings up to 1847: https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FMJ25-JWL%3A1048366701%2C1048419901%3Fcc%3D1935075 Douglas On 2/10/2014 11:42 AM, Paul Booth via wrote: > Hello List, > > Just a very broad question to begin with. Are there any recored that still exist that pertain to the Police Courts in Launceston circa 1884. > > I have a mention in the Launceston Daily Telegraph and would like to delve deeper. > > Thanks > > Paul > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I must be doing something wrong as went to the link and what ever family name I put in it keeps telling me know results. this can't be right as I have seen results on the old site. Doesn't even want to give me any results for Jones. tried going to a few other pages and still no luck just felt like I was going round in circle I'm obviously doing something wrong but would like to take a look perhaps someone can give me a pointer On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Douglas via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > It looks like the convict records are indexed to the actual page too, > rather than just the whole book. So you don't have to use trial & error > to search back and forth for the page you want. > > This will really speed up searches! > > Douglas > > > On 1/10/2014 2:57 PM, Ray Hayes via wrote: > > Thanks very much Meryl, > > > > Great to see that the results for births, deaths and marriages link > > directly to an image of the register page. Much easier than browsing on > > Family Search looking for the register page images. > > > > Ray > > > > > > On 01/10/2014 12:20 PM, Meryl Yost via wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: > >> http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ > >> > >> The index includes links to many digitised records as well as > non-digitised > >> that you can order copies of online. > >> > >> You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the various > >> TAHO indexes. > >> > >> regards, > >> Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists > >> AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the link Meryl, have been on it ever since you posted it, really fantastic. Cheers Sally -------------------------------------------------- From: "Meryl Yost via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:20 PM To: "Tasmania List" <AUS-Tasmania-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Tasmanian Names Index - LINC - TAHO > Hi everyone, > > There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: > http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ > > The index includes links to many digitised records as well as > non-digitised > that you can order copies of online. > > You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the various > TAHO indexes. > > regards, > Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists > AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks very much Meryl, Great to see that the results for births, deaths and marriages link directly to an image of the register page. Much easier than browsing on Family Search looking for the register page images. Ray On 01/10/2014 12:20 PM, Meryl Yost via wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: > http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ > > The index includes links to many digitised records as well as non-digitised > that you can order copies of online. > > You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the various > TAHO indexes. > > regards, > Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists > AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

It looks like the convict records are indexed to the actual page too, rather than just the whole book. So you don't have to use trial & error to search back and forth for the page you want. This will really speed up searches! Douglas On 1/10/2014 2:57 PM, Ray Hayes via wrote: > Thanks very much Meryl, > > Great to see that the results for births, deaths and marriages link > directly to an image of the register page. Much easier than browsing on > Family Search looking for the register page images. > > Ray > > > On 01/10/2014 12:20 PM, Meryl Yost via wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: >> http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ >> >> The index includes links to many digitised records as well as non-digitised >> that you can order copies of online. >> >> You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the various >> TAHO indexes. >> >> regards, >> Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists >> AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elaine, it is not strictly an obit. A Notice of Condolence was made by the Council and at the following meeting the remark referring to the "19" children was made by a Councillor Ryan. Perhaps the book Anthony referred to would clear up who raised his son's children. Emma Jane remarried a few years later. cheers Sally From: Elaine Hanford Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:13 PM To: Anthony Fletcher ; narnty Cc: AUS-Tasmania Roots web Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Help finding some missing Wagner children The obit clearly says he reared a family of 19....but then, this is a politician speaking and they traditionally do not let facts get in the way of a good emotional speech!! the obit is at: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/151328319

Hi everyone, There is a new Tasmanian Names Index on the LINC website at: http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/ The index includes links to many digitised records as well as non-digitised that you can order copies of online. You can now use the one search engine to look for someone in the various TAHO indexes. regards, Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator: AUS-Tasmania & AUS-Tas-Surnames mailing lists AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/

Many thanks to Mike, Peter and Dean for their help. I have updated my web page with the new info: www.cocker.id.au/murray/hugh_1789.php Regards Andrew

Hi Karen, I've only been able to access hard copy versions of the Rolls at LINC Hobart (the old State Reference Library) I understand that a couple of stray volumes are available to view (1858 I think ) on a couple of website but you have to subscribe to them. Some also appear in the Tasmanian Govt. Gazettes which have gone online but again I don't know how comprehensive they are. I've heard a little birdie rumour that TAHO and the Hobart City Council will be joining forces to digitise the known Valuation Rolls available but how far down the track that will be I cannot estimate. Cheers, Peter On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Karen Dunham <karen.dunham@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi again, Peter, > > > > The Valuation Rolls are a valuable resource. How do you access them? Are > they online or elsewhere? > > > > Karen > > > > *From:* Peter Oakley [mailto:pete.j.oakley@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 September 2014 7:11 PM > *To:* Great Bedwyn > *Cc:* Karen Dunham; AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com > *Subject:* Re: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > > > Hi Karen, > > > > Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving > Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who > were living in address' Bates had vacated. > > > > > > Year > > No. > > Street > > Occupant > > Owner > > Value (pounds) > > Property Type > > 1860 > > 126 > > Melville St > > James Bates > > Martin McLoughlin > > 7 > > House > > 1865 > > 126 > > Melville St > > Richard Patterson > > Robert Worley > > 7 > > House & Garden > > 1865 > > 124 > > Melville St > > William Kelly > > Robert Worley > > 7 > > House & Garden > > 1867 > > 124 > > Melville St > > James Bates > > Robert Worley > > 10 > > Dwelling House & Land > > 1872 > > 126 > > Melville St > > Empty > > George Watson > > 7 > > House & Land > > 1872 > > 138 > > Bathurst St > > James Bates > > Henry Marshall, Hill St > > 12 > > Dwelling House > > 1874 > > 138 > > Bathurst St > > Samuel Ball > > Henry Marshall, Hill St > > 12 > > Dwelling House > > Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place > of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The > undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? > > > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Peter > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Karen > > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late 1800s > to > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of changes > in > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every > dwelling was affected. > > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation > Roll > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the street > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in time > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then keep > tracing forward under different owners. > > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. > > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you can > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see if > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to > the > current building. > > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History Society > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the time. > > Regards > > Malcolm > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham via > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > Hi all, > > > > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers of > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville St. > (But maybe not the same house?) > > > > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways to > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? > > > > Karen Dunham > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Mabel, The earliest I've accessed in hard copy at LINCs Hobart is 1858. There appear to be some earlier ones but they just deal with Hobart.... http://catalogue.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/item/?q=valuation&avail=Reference&topic=Valuation&i=6&id=885157 Cheers, Peter On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Mabel Harvey <mabel.harvey@gmail.com> wrote: > HI > > Just wondered if some one might be able to tell me what year the valuation > rolls go back to > > Thank you > Mabel > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Oakley via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hi Karen, >> >> Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving >> Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who >> were living in address' Bates had vacated. >> >> >> YearNo.StreetOccupantOwnerValue >> (pounds)Property Type1860126Melville StJames Bates Martin McLoughlin >> 7House1865126Melville StRichard Patterson Robert Worley 7House >> & Garden1865124Melville StWilliam Kelly Robert Worley 7House & >> Garden1867124Melville StJames Bates Robert Worley 10Dwelling >> House & Land1872126Melville StEmpty George Watson 7House & >> Land >> 1872138Bathurst StJames BatesHenry Marshall, Hill St 12Dwelling >> House1874138Bathurst StSamuel BallHenry Marshall, Hill St 12 >> >> >> Dwelling House >> Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place >> of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The >> undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < >> aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com >> > wrote: >> >> > Hi Karen >> > >> > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late >> 1800s >> > to >> > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of >> changes >> > in >> > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every >> > dwelling was affected. >> > >> > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may >> > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation >> > Roll >> > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the >> street >> > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in >> time >> > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then >> keep >> > tracing forward under different owners. >> > >> > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. >> > >> > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show >> > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you >> can >> > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see >> if >> > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to >> > the >> > current building. >> > >> > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History >> Society >> > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the >> time. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Malcolm >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham >> via >> > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM >> > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > >> > >> > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers >> of >> > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died >> > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville >> St. >> > (But maybe not the same house?) >> > >> > >> > >> > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways >> to >> > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? >> > >> > >> > >> > Karen Dunham >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type >> > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hello Elaine I am inclined to think that the 19 children cited in the Obituary is an error. The book "Wagner - 130 Years in Tasmania" by Alma Ranson only records fourteen children too. Cheers On 1 October 2014 09:20, narnty via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Seems that I might be missing 5 children....and if SKS can help me to > > identify > > them, I would be very grateful! > > Hi Elaine, > there are 11 children registered to Chris* Wagner & Laura Hannah in the > TPI > .The 3 girls Clara, Ada, & Laura not being registered, which makes the 14 > you mentioned. > > Laura Henrietta Wagner 1883 – 1968 > - at 13 yrs old she wrote to Flamingo in the Examiner saying she has - 9 > bros & 3 sisters in 1896 -and six cows. This ties in with the known facts, > one brother having died in 1893. > > His wife Laura Hannah or Hannah Laura appears to have died 10/5/1917, aged > 68? > but his will states he left his estate to 4 sons & his widow - named as > Laura Hannah- written I think in 1909 > I cannot find the obit for him you mention- apart from various reports on > his death which state that a family member accidently gave him poison. > > Perhaps these 5 children could have been born to another woman after Laura > Hannah's death.? > > or As I can't find the obit you mention perhaps there is an error in this > or > the transcription of it? > cheers > Sally > PS All but 1 registration has him as Christopher or Christy Henry, one son > was named Christian. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Elaine Hanford via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:27 AM > To: "AUS-Tasmania Roots web" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Help finding some missing Wagner children > > > Dear Listers, > > > > I'm working on the family of Christian Henry & Laura Hannah (nee Hawke - > > spelling varies) Wagner. > > > > His obituary notes that he "reared a family of 19"... but I have only > > found and documented the following 14 (I have posted all to > Ancestry.com): > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Anthony J M Fletcher 27 Seabrook Street, SEVEN MILE BEACH 7170 Tasmania Mobile: 0421 055 976 Email: anthonyjm.fletcher@gmail.com P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments.

HI Just wondered if some one might be able to tell me what year the valuation rolls go back to Thank you Mabel On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hi Karen, > > Expanding on Rays information, here is James Bates in the surviving > Valuation Rolls between 1860-1874. Included for reference, the persons who > were living in address' Bates had vacated. > > > YearNo.StreetOccupantOwnerValue > (pounds)Property Type1860126Melville StJames Bates Martin McLoughlin > 7House1865126Melville StRichard Patterson Robert Worley 7House > & Garden1865124Melville StWilliam Kelly Robert Worley 7House & > Garden1867124Melville StJames Bates Robert Worley 10Dwelling > House & Land1872126Melville StEmpty George Watson 7House & > Land > 1872138Bathurst StJames BatesHenry Marshall, Hill St 12Dwelling > House1874138Bathurst StSamuel BallHenry Marshall, Hill St 12 > > Dwelling House > Interestingly Bathurst Street is listed on Bate's certificate as the place > of death. This is crossed out and then Melville Street written above. The > undertaker was the informant. Could he have got the information confused?? > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-35346-6421-89?cc=2125029&wc=M7HG-WP8:387523701,387590301,387604401 > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Great Bedwyn via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > Hi Karen > > > > Be aware that the house numbers may well have changed from the late 1800s > > to > > present. I think for inner Hobart there were two major phases of changes > > in > > about 1910 and again about 1940 (from fallible memory) but not every > > dwelling was affected. > > > > If you are trying to identify the same house (or location) today, it may > > involve a somewhat painstaking trace of the location from the valuation > > Roll > > of the time (and you will see over time houses being added along the > street > > in between the existing houses, as blocks are sub divided) forward in > time > > until Post Office directories kick in about 1900 (consistently), then > keep > > tracing forward under different owners. > > > > I've done this a number of times, with mixed success. > > > > The Metropolitan Drainage Board maps of 1910 and (I think) 1930??? Show > > exact numbered property and building outlines, so if you are lucky you > can > > see the shape of a house and adjacent buildings along the street to see > if > > it's the same as today. Again, this helps connecting the old numbers to > > the > > current building. > > > > Undertakers records have been transcribed by the Tas Family History > Society > > http://www.tasfhs.org/ and might well reveal the house number of the > time. > > > > Regards > > > > Malcolm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:aus-tasmania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Dunham via > > Sent: Monday, 29 September 2014 3:55 PM > > To: AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Addresses in Hobart pre 1895 > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > In order to make connections, I'm trying to find out the house numbers of > > two people who died in Melville St. Hobart before 1895. James Bates died > > 18/1/1873 and his 3 year old daughter died 17/7/1860, both in Melville > St. > > (But maybe not the same house?) > > > > > > > > Are there undertaker's records for those times? Or are there other ways > to > > ascertain the house numbers in Melville St? > > > > > > > > Karen Dunham > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type > > AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Seems that I might be missing 5 children....and if SKS can help me to > identify > them, I would be very grateful! Hi Elaine, there are 11 children registered to Chris* Wagner & Laura Hannah in the TPI .The 3 girls Clara, Ada, & Laura not being registered, which makes the 14 you mentioned. > Laura Henrietta Wagner 1883 – 1968 - at 13 yrs old she wrote to Flamingo in the Examiner saying she has - 9 bros & 3 sisters in 1896 -and six cows. This ties in with the known facts, one brother having died in 1893. His wife Laura Hannah or Hannah Laura appears to have died 10/5/1917, aged 68? but his will states he left his estate to 4 sons & his widow - named as Laura Hannah- written I think in 1909 I cannot find the obit for him you mention- apart from various reports on his death which state that a family member accidently gave him poison. Perhaps these 5 children could have been born to another woman after Laura Hannah's death.? or As I can't find the obit you mention perhaps there is an error in this or the transcription of it? cheers Sally PS All but 1 registration has him as Christopher or Christy Henry, one son was named Christian. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elaine Hanford via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 2:27 AM To: "AUS-Tasmania Roots web" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-Tas] Help finding some missing Wagner children > Dear Listers, > > I'm working on the family of Christian Henry & Laura Hannah (nee Hawke - > spelling varies) Wagner. > > His obituary notes that he "reared a family of 19"... but I have only > found and documented the following 14 (I have posted all to Ancestry.com):

Thanks much for reminding me about the "obit" being a Notice of Condolence....my mistake as I put it in the obit remarks in my file. Unfortunately, living in Nevada, I do not have access the the book on the Wagner family that Anthony referenced. Such are the constraints of doing long-distance research! But I am so very grateful for all the listers who give so kindly of their help!! Cheers, Elaine TAS Descendant in Reno, Nevada On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:31 PM, narnty <sallynolan531@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Elaine, it is not strictly an obit. A Notice of Condolence was made by the Council and at the following meeting the remark referring to the "19" children was made by a Councillor Ryan. Perhaps the book Anthony referred to would clear up who raised his son's children. Emma Jane remarried a few years later. cheers Sally From: Elaine Hanford Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:13 PM To: Anthony Fletcher ; narnty Cc: AUS-Tasmania Roots web Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Help finding some missing Wagner children The obit clearly says he reared a family of 19....but then, this is a politician speaking and they traditionally do not let facts get in the way of a good emotional speech!! the obit is at: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/151328319