Hi All, I need help with my brick wall please. Looking for the arrival of a Thomas JONES he would have arrived before 1838 when he married Elizabeth Flannagan who was a Convict on their certificate and Thomas stated free, was he a convict or a soldier, when his first child was born he added the second name Fletcher, my interest is with his second son James Fletcher Jones as be married my Smelt. Any help would be most appreciated. TIA. Carlene Smelt Hot and Dry Queensland.

For those like me who want to know addresses in Tasmania in the 1870's, there is a valuable resource online called The Gardens - Family History. The surnames from the Valuation Roll have been extracted and compiled into two alphabetical surname lists for 1875. It details street names, description and number of the property, name of the occupier and owner and value of the property. It covers Brighton, Campbell Town, Deloraine, Green Ponds , Evandale, Fingal, Glenorchy, Hamilton, Hobart, Longford, New Norfolk, Oatlands, Ross and Westbury. Just google Hobart Valuation Roll 1875 - The Gardens Family and it appears. Karen Dunham

The new Launceston flood levees have been in the news this week. Launceston's most severe flooding was in 1929. Some of the comments made suggested that 26 people had died in the 1929 Launceston floods. I don't think this is correct. The Launceston floods were severe, but the disaster spread across the northern half of the state. The mining town of Derby in the NE, Longford in the central north, and the Ulverstone region in the NW were severely affected too. At the time, the newspapers stated that there had been 22 deaths: 14 at Derby, when the Cascade Dam burst and flooded the tin mine, and 8 at the Gawler River, a tributary of the Leven River at Ulverstone, when a motor carrying 9 plunged into the river (one boy survived). Does anyone know of any others? As far as I know, there weren't any deaths in Launceston caused directly by the flooding, though there was extensive property damage. There are lots of references on Trove, April 1929, for those interested. Judy

Hi Karen, William Tilyard was occupying 130 Melville Street in 1868 by the VR's of that year. Property was owned by Martin McLoughlin, dwelling house and land. Remember Michael H's warning about the street number changes that have occurred in Hobart over the years. Modern 130 Melville Street on Google maps is highly unlikely to be the original. Cheers, Peter On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Karen Dunham via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Thanks to those people, especially Ray and Peter, for the Melville St. > Valuation Look ups. If possible, I have one more request - for the exact > address in Melville St of William Tilyard who died 10/3/1868. > > Many thanks, > > Karen Dunham, Penguin > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] John Close and Sarah Snooks To: Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> Hi Trish, I must apologise !! In my rush to get that this info to you I put in a wrong month. The born date was actually the 25 Sept 1856. Closer to the one on the civil reg. but still not the same. ...my seniors moments are getting worse and worse... Cheers, Peter On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter > Kisses, hugs and great scenes of jubilation happening! Thank you so much > for that look up! There is a discrepancy with the birth date the unnamed > male was registered with - 10 Oct 1856 compared to 25 Feb 1856 on the > baptismal record. Would they have had time limits within which they had to > register births, or maybe it was a random date, given that Thomas was > illiterate so the passing of dates and times weren't easy to track! > Thank you once again > Trish Grey > Darwin NT > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Trish, >> >> Your hopes for their attendance to the Deloraine Church are fulfilled !! >> >> St Marks C of E, Deloraine (built 1859 (earlier wooden structure built >> 1847) >> baptism register page 13 has John Close bapt. 22 March 1857, born 25 Feb. >> 1856 to Thomas and Ann Close, Abode: Drumleagh, Rank: Farmer. >> >> Have Margaret Dunn/e's origins been revealed? I know she was a daughter >> of Dennis and Madeline (Smith) Dunne because they were witness' at her >> wedding to John in 1881. Has her birth circa 1860 been found? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Peter >>> From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living >>> in Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to >>> the end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under >>> Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is >>> residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the >>> Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a >>> lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were >>> possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of >>> Deloraine. >>> So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend >>> a church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! >>> Trish >>> >> >> >

Hi all, This is from "Trove" and might explain why some births were different to baptism dates, a case of not wanting to pay or being able afford a £10 fine! "We call the attention of the public to the liability which parties incur of being fined for neglecting the registration of births and deaths, at the Deputy Registration Office. For parents neglectingthe registration of births, or house holders the registration of deaths occurring in their house, the former within 42, and the latter within 10 days, the fine as we remember is £10." /The Cornwall Chronicle /(Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880), 24 November, p. 2, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65954548 Cheers, Maree On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: >> <snip> >> >> I've found in my own research that a lot of birth dates in association >> with a baptism don't tally with the civil birth registration. I think it is >> a fact that people just weren't aware of time as we in the modern society >> are. Thomas probably got up with the sun, went to bed at dark and if he was >> lucky he might remember the Sabbath without Ann having to remind him !!. I >> think that would sum up how most farmers or farm labours viewed things in >> those days. >> >> <snip>

Hi Greg, I was a ten pound pom but came out by ship This website may help you as I note several came out in 1959. If you browse you may find someone who can help. I noted that someone said our Present Prime minister was also a Ten Pound pom. You need to scroll downto the letters. http://museumvictoria.com.au/immigrationmuseum/discoverycentre/your-questions/ten-pound-poms/ You can find the passnger lists also. Edie McArthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Connell via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-TASMANIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 12:39 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] William Gordon > > > Hi Listers, > > Hoping someone can help me. > > William Gordon Migrated from England to Australia in June or July 1959. > [A ten pound pom] Arriving in Melbourne > > Although originally scheduled to come out on ship, because of the > imminent birth of their son they came out Via Plane rather than ship. > > He was accompanied by his wife Beryl and daughter Christine. > > Is anyone able to find what plane flight they arrived on. > > Thanks in Advance > > Greg >

Thanks to those people, especially Ray and Peter, for the Melville St. Valuation Look ups. If possible, I have one more request - for the exact address in Melville St of William Tilyard who died 10/3/1868. Many thanks, Karen Dunham, Penguin

Re <<<I've found in my own research that a lot of birth dates in association with a baptism don't tally with the civil birth registration.>>> That is good, so good, to hear! I have a birth date given when my great grandfather was baptised, aged about four or five. It means he was born only a month after his parents married and his mother was then a widow, and her first husband's death was only registered Sept quarter; she married late Dec that same year. England of course. He was said to be born Jan 1861. Census 1861 (March/April) he did not appear, 1871 census he was aged 9. I think that date is out when he was baptized. But, they do not appear to have registered his birth. I have two birth certs which are NOT him but I thought maybe they could have been. John Henry Thomas BERNHARDT he was - parents German - no-one could read or write it seems - he was Benard when baptised, Bennard in one census, Burnhead in another, as well as Barnard, Bernard, Bernhard, etc etc and Johan but called Henry and got Harry sometimes.. and he varied the surname spelling and initials and age etc etc father Johan Fredrick and variations - mother Elizabeth/Alice - - I presume she was named in the home Elise and so.. she was first Mrs Zeitter and it has come up once as Fitten! And Leitter. I have never once, though Henry's found births of about ten children and deaths too, and seven so far found marriages, and.. bigamy figured highly in his life! I would so like to find his birth but it seems I am not to find it. Dawn --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Trish, I've found in my own research that a lot of birth dates in association with a baptism don't tally with the civil birth registration. I think it is a fact that people just weren't aware of time as we in the modern society are. Thomas probably got up with the sun, went to bed at dark and if he was lucky he might remember the Sabbath without Ann having to remind him !!. I think that would sum up how most farmers or farm labours viewed things in those days. Your probably already aware of Margaret Dunne's line. Seems to be a few online trees like this linked one - http://thisismyfamilyhistory.com/getperson.php?personID=I576&tree=tree1 Margaret Close's brother, Dennis ended up in my neck of the woods, as a patient at the New Norfolk Lunatic Asylum. I just found him in the old New Norfolk Cemetery book I have, dying in 1902 from Brain Trauma and being buried as a pauper. So he's over there rubbing shoulders with quite a few of my ancestors who are buried in the same cemetery!! Cheers, Peter On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter > Kisses, hugs and great scenes of jubilation happening! Thank you so much > for that look up! There is a discrepancy with the birth date the unnamed > male was registered with - 10 Oct 1856 compared to 25 Feb 1856 on the > baptismal record. Would they have had time limits within which they had to > register births, or maybe it was a random date, given that Thomas was > illiterate so the passing of dates and times weren't easy to track! > Thank you once again > Trish Grey > Darwin NT > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Trish, >> >> Your hopes for their attendance to the Deloraine Church are fulfilled !! >> >> St Marks C of E, Deloraine (built 1859 (earlier wooden structure built >> 1847) >> baptism register page 13 has John Close bapt. 22 March 1857, born 25 Feb. >> 1856 to Thomas and Ann Close, Abode: Drumleagh, Rank: Farmer. >> >> Have Margaret Dunn/e's origins been revealed? I know she was a daughter >> of Dennis and Madeline (Smith) Dunne because they were witness' at her >> wedding to John in 1881. Has her birth circa 1860 been found? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Peter >>> From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living >>> in Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to >>> the end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under >>> Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is >>> residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the >>> Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a >>> lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were >>> possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of >>> Deloraine. >>> So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend >>> a church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! >>> Trish >>> >> >> >

Thanks for that Peter Just had a look at that site - all that information came from my ancestry.com tree Hmmm! Would nice to be acknowledged in some way! My John Close and wife Margaret Dunn were brick walls for many years. Both of them had ages on MCerts and DCerts that didn't tally with actual birth years. Margaret Dunn was a challenge as her death certificate stated she was born in Tasmania (no registered birth exists but all siblings were born in Victoria!). Her marriage was witnessed by Denis and Madeline Dunn in Tasmania, giving a hint at a possible connection. It wasn't until the pre 1900 BDM became available that, two of the births of John And Margaret's children were registered by AUNTS, Margaret's Sister Amelia and sister-in-law Madeline. Much research and many Victorian BDM certificates later, I could place her and her 12 siblings together. Denis was a miner, I wonder if his head trauma was related! Denis and Madeline's daughter Mary Ann Amelia Dunn married Robert Close, brother of my John Close. The only two Close siblings to marry in the Catholic Church, the rest were C of E - another red herring! Time for a bottle of bubbly and the spa now! Cheers Trish G On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Trish, > > I've found in my own research that a lot of birth dates in association > with a baptism don't tally with the civil birth registration. I think it is > a fact that people just weren't aware of time as we in the modern society > are. Thomas probably got up with the sun, went to bed at dark and if he was > lucky he might remember the Sabbath without Ann having to remind him !!. I > think that would sum up how most farmers or farm labours viewed things in > those days. > > Your probably already aware of Margaret Dunne's line. Seems to be a few > online trees like this linked one - > > http://thisismyfamilyhistory.com/getperson.php?personID=I576&tree=tree1 > > Margaret Close's brother, Dennis ended up in my neck of the woods, as a > patient at the New Norfolk Lunatic Asylum. I just found him in the old New > Norfolk Cemetery book I have, dying in 1902 from Brain Trauma and being > buried as a pauper. So he's over there rubbing shoulders with quite a few > of my ancestors who are buried in the same cemetery!! > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Peter >> Kisses, hugs and great scenes of jubilation happening! Thank you so >> much for that look up! There is a discrepancy with the birth date the >> unnamed male was registered with - 10 Oct 1856 compared to 25 Feb 1856 on >> the baptismal record. Would they have had time limits within which they >> had to register births, or maybe it was a random date, given that Thomas >> was illiterate so the passing of dates and times weren't easy to track! >> Thank you once again >> Trish Grey >> Darwin NT >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Trish, >>> >>> Your hopes for their attendance to the Deloraine Church are fulfilled !! >>> >>> St Marks C of E, Deloraine (built 1859 (earlier wooden structure built >>> 1847) >>> baptism register page 13 has John Close bapt. 22 March 1857, born 25 >>> Feb. 1856 to Thomas and Ann Close, Abode: Drumleagh, Rank: Farmer. >>> >>> Have Margaret Dunn/e's origins been revealed? I know she was a daughter >>> of Dennis and Madeline (Smith) Dunne because they were witness' at her >>> wedding to John in 1881. Has her birth circa 1860 been found? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Peter >>>> From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living >>>> in Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to >>>> the end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under >>>> Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is >>>> residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the >>>> Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a >>>> lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were >>>> possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of >>>> Deloraine. >>>> So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend >>>> a church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! >>>> Trish >>>> >>> >>> >> >

Peter Kisses, hugs and great scenes of jubilation happening! Thank you so much for that look up! There is a discrepancy with the birth date the unnamed male was registered with - 10 Oct 1856 compared to 25 Feb 1856 on the baptismal record. Would they have had time limits within which they had to register births, or maybe it was a random date, given that Thomas was illiterate so the passing of dates and times weren't easy to track! Thank you once again Trish Grey Darwin NT On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Peter Oakley <pete.j.oakley@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Trish, > > Your hopes for their attendance to the Deloraine Church are fulfilled !! > > St Marks C of E, Deloraine (built 1859 (earlier wooden structure built > 1847) > baptism register page 13 has John Close bapt. 22 March 1857, born 25 Feb. > 1856 to Thomas and Ann Close, Abode: Drumleagh, Rank: Farmer. > > Have Margaret Dunn/e's origins been revealed? I know she was a daughter of > Dennis and Madeline (Smith) Dunne because they were witness' at her wedding > to John in 1881. Has her birth circa 1860 been found? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Peter >> From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living in >> Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to the >> end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under >> Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is >> residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the >> Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a >> lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were >> possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of >> Deloraine. >> So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend a >> church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! >> Trish >> > >

Hi Trish, Your hopes for their attendance to the Deloraine Church are fulfilled !! St Marks C of E, Deloraine (built 1859 (earlier wooden structure built 1847) baptism register page 13 has John Close bapt. 22 March 1857, born 25 Feb. 1856 to Thomas and Ann Close, Abode: Drumleagh, Rank: Farmer. Have Margaret Dunn/e's origins been revealed? I know she was a daughter of Dennis and Madeline (Smith) Dunne because they were witness' at her wedding to John in 1881. Has her birth circa 1860 been found? Cheers, Peter On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Peter > From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living in > Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to the > end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under > Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is > residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the > Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a > lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were > possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of > Deloraine. > So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend a > church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! > Trish >

Dear Lists, I am looking for the first Crabtree family to arrive in Tasmania. I have searched all the usual records BDM etc. but there seems to be two Crabtree families one from James Crabtree and the other from Thomas Crabtree I am hoping someone had done work on these families and can lead me in the right direction. Many thanks Irene Irene Schaffer Hobart 2/5a Marys Hope Road Rosetta 7010 03 62 722 124 irene.schaffer@bigpond.com http://www.tasfamily.net.au/~schafferi --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Trish, I had a quick look at the Westbury C of E baptism register based on the fact that the the children's births were registered in Westbury rather than Deloraine. It was only a glance but I did see a Thomas baptised to Thomas and Ann Close then a big shock !!... Twenty pages of the register had been cut out covering the period 1854-1877. There is a note in the register just before it picks up again. It went something like "This book was left in the vestry while the church was being repaired and damaged by persons unknown." If the Closes were regular worshipers at that church and the unknown boy child of 1856 was baptised there the info is long gone. If I get the opportunity again I'll review the microfilm more closely to see if Sarah Close was there for 1849. As I say it was a very quick scan of the microfilm... Cheers, Peter Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Oct 2014, at 9:58 pm, Trish Grey <trishygrey@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Peter and Jessie and Rhonda > > The family I suspect my John Close belongs to is Thomas Close and Ann Gutteridge/Guthrie - they had 9 children of which 3 had unregistered births and one registered but unnamed male born 10/10/1856. The only information I have for John's year of birth comes from his marriage certificate and death certificate which put him born either 1858 or 1861 in Deloraine. So the unnamed male born 1856 and registered by Thomas Close of High Plain, which I have determined is about a mile north of Deloraine is looking good! > Would anyone know what C of E churches were in Deloraine at that time and if and where surviving registers would be! > > Cheers > Trish > > >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jessie Dominy <blythe@y7mail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Is this the couple you are interested in ? - >> >> John CLOSE m. Margaret DUNNE 23 Dec 1881 Launceston #758 23 / 21 yrs >> >> and possible connection to - >> >> Sarah CLOSE m. Thomas Edward SNOKES 4 Jan 1871 Port Sorell #528 21 / 24 yrs >> >> >> On Wednesday, 15 October 2014, 13:32, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Trish, >> >> I'm afraid the valuation records only cover 1858 - 1899. That's all that's >> available in hard copy at the old Hobart Reference Library. >> >> The Tasmanian Post Office directories don't offer much hope either. They >> only give towns not even streets in most cases. >> >> I know from archived threads on the list you have the death certificates >> for both John and Margaret Close. Another line of enquiry stemming from >> John (and Margaret's) deaths might be open to you. In his death notice of >> 1936 its noted he died at the Devon Public Hospital, Latrobe. TAHO have the >> records for that hospital. If you follow this link you will see there are >> admission registers available for the time period John was in that hospital >> - >> >> http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=HSD62 >> >> or the register of deaths - >> >> http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 >> >> If the information was provided by the patient or a close relative it might >> give far more detail than the death certificate. >> >> Margaret died at the Spencer Hospital, Wynyard in 1931. Again there are >> admission registers available for that facility - >> >> http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 >> >> Perhaps an enquiry to TAHO would elicit further details?? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Trish Grey via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi all >> > >> > I'm after lookups for the land valuation rolls for Burnie for the years >> > 1915-1930 if they exist. John and Margaret Close lived in King St Burnie >> > on and off throughout this period. Sarah Snooks(neeClose) was also listed >> > in King St on the 1928 Electoral rolls. If I can place her in the same >> > house as John Close I may be one step closer to solving the parents of John >> > Close!! Unfortunately no house numbers have been noted on any of the >> > electoral rolls! >> > Fingers Crossed in anticipation! >> > Trish Grey >> > Darwin NT >> > ------------------------------- >> > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com >> Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) >> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter >From information passed on to me Thomas' baptism has his father living in Hagley at the time. Deloraine births were registered in Westbury up to the end of October 1856 and from the 1st of November 1856 registered under Deloraine! By the time the unnamed boy was born on 10/10/1856 Thomas is residing at High Plains. On trove in April 1856 Thomas is listed on the Electoral roll for Deloraine as residing at Drumreigh (Drumreagh) as a lease holder, the leasor being J Munce. Drumreigh and High Plains were possibly on the same land grant to Samuel Munce about one mile north of Deloraine. So I am hoping that if all those pages are missing that they did attend a church in Deloraine - assuming there was one! Trish

Thanks Peter and Jessie and Rhonda The family I suspect my John Close belongs to is Thomas Close and Ann Gutteridge/Guthrie - they had 9 children of which 3 had unregistered births and one registered but unnamed male born 10/10/1856. The only information I have for John's year of birth comes from his marriage certificate and death certificate which put him born either 1858 or 1861 in Deloraine. So the unnamed male born 1856 and registered by Thomas Close of High Plain, which I have determined is about a mile north of Deloraine is looking good! Would anyone know what C of E churches were in Deloraine at that time and if and where surviving registers would be! Cheers Trish On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Jessie Dominy <blythe@y7mail.com> wrote: > > > Is this the couple you are interested in ? - > > John CLOSE m. Margaret DUNNE 23 Dec 1881 Launceston #758 23 / 21 yrs > > and possible connection to - > > Sarah CLOSE m. Thomas Edward SNOKES 4 Jan 1871 Port Sorell #528 21 / 24 > yrs > > > On Wednesday, 15 October 2014, 13:32, Peter Oakley via < > aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi Trish, > > I'm afraid the valuation records only cover 1858 - 1899. That's all that's > available in hard copy at the old Hobart Reference Library. > > The Tasmanian Post Office directories don't offer much hope either. They > only give towns not even streets in most cases. > > I know from archived threads on the list you have the death certificates > for both John and Margaret Close. Another line of enquiry stemming from > John (and Margaret's) deaths might be open to you. In his death notice of > 1936 its noted he died at the Devon Public Hospital, Latrobe. TAHO have the > records for that hospital. If you follow this link you will see there are > admission registers available for the time period John was in that hospital > - > > http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=HSD62 > > or the register of deaths - > > http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 > > If the information was provided by the patient or a close relative it might > give far more detail than the death certificate. > > Margaret died at the Spencer Hospital, Wynyard in 1931. Again there are > admission registers available for that facility - > > http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 > > Perhaps an enquiry to TAHO would elicit further details?? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Trish Grey via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > > > wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > I'm after lookups for the land valuation rolls for Burnie for the years > > 1915-1930 if they exist. John and Margaret Close lived in King St Burnie > > on and off throughout this period. Sarah Snooks(neeClose) was also > listed > > in King St on the 1928 Electoral rolls. If I can place her in the same > > house as John Close I may be one step closer to solving the parents of > John > > Close!! Unfortunately no house numbers have been noted on any of the > > electoral rolls! > > Fingers Crossed in anticipation! > > Trish Grey > > Darwin NT > > ------------------------------- > > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi List, FYI After my recent trip to Tassie and to the Morris Miller Library the 1889 & 1891 diaries are now available to view on line for those with connections to Mayfield & Lisdillon on the East Coast. They are trying to get a grant to scan the remainder of the diaries after 1881. 1889 - http://eprints.utas.edu.au/18610/ 1891 - http://eprints.utas.edu.au/18581/ Robert

Hi Trish, I'm afraid the valuation records only cover 1858 - 1899. That's all that's available in hard copy at the old Hobart Reference Library. The Tasmanian Post Office directories don't offer much hope either. They only give towns not even streets in most cases. I know from archived threads on the list you have the death certificates for both John and Margaret Close. Another line of enquiry stemming from John (and Margaret's) deaths might be open to you. In his death notice of 1936 its noted he died at the Devon Public Hospital, Latrobe. TAHO have the records for that hospital. If you follow this link you will see there are admission registers available for the time period John was in that hospital - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=HSD62 or the register of deaths - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 If the information was provided by the patient or a close relative it might give far more detail than the death certificate. Margaret died at the Spencer Hospital, Wynyard in 1931. Again there are admission registers available for that facility - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 Perhaps an enquiry to TAHO would elicit further details?? Cheers, Peter On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Trish Grey via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi all > > I'm after lookups for the land valuation rolls for Burnie for the years > 1915-1930 if they exist. John and Margaret Close lived in King St Burnie > on and off throughout this period. Sarah Snooks(neeClose) was also listed > in King St on the 1928 Electoral rolls. If I can place her in the same > house as John Close I may be one step closer to solving the parents of John > Close!! Unfortunately no house numbers have been noted on any of the > electoral rolls! > Fingers Crossed in anticipation! > Trish Grey > Darwin NT > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is this the couple you are interested in ? - John CLOSE m. Margaret DUNNE 23 Dec 1881 Launceston #758 23 / 21 yrs and possible connection to - Sarah CLOSE m. Thomas Edward SNOKES 4 Jan 1871 Port Sorell #528 21 / 24 yrs On Wednesday, 15 October 2014, 13:32, Peter Oakley via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Trish, I'm afraid the valuation records only cover 1858 - 1899. That's all that's available in hard copy at the old Hobart Reference Library. The Tasmanian Post Office directories don't offer much hope either. They only give towns not even streets in most cases. I know from archived threads on the list you have the death certificates for both John and Margaret Close. Another line of enquiry stemming from John (and Margaret's) deaths might be open to you. In his death notice of 1936 its noted he died at the Devon Public Hospital, Latrobe. TAHO have the records for that hospital. If you follow this link you will see there are admission registers available for the time period John was in that hospital - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=HSD62 or the register of deaths - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 If the information was provided by the patient or a close relative it might give far more detail than the death certificate. Margaret died at the Spencer Hospital, Wynyard in 1931. Again there are admission registers available for that facility - http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/default.aspx?detail=1&type=S&id=AB806 Perhaps an enquiry to TAHO would elicit further details?? Cheers, Peter On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Trish Grey via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi all > > I'm after lookups for the land valuation rolls for Burnie for the years > 1915-1930 if they exist. John and Margaret Close lived in King St Burnie > on and off throughout this period. Sarah Snooks(neeClose) was also listed > in King St on the 1928 Electoral rolls. If I can place her in the same > house as John Close I may be one step closer to solving the parents of John > Close!! Unfortunately no house numbers have been noted on any of the > electoral rolls! > Fingers Crossed in anticipation! > Trish Grey > Darwin NT > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message