Hi Tas , My earlier email to your Coleman query had links to some of the births of the known children of James and Charlotte Smith. Charlotte Smith died at Glen Fern on the 13 Sept 1906 aged 64 and is buried at Cornelian Bay - http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=14833 Her death notice is in the Mercury 15 Sept 1906. Possibility she may have been living with Ada and John Coleman? Appears James Smith was also still alive post 1906 because in the Cornelian Bay records online it says "Farmer's wife" not "widow"? Cheers, Peter On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Tas Browning via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Hi Listers, > once again many thanks to all who forwarded detail to > me in regards to the Coleman query. > this one is closely related,. > this time I am seeking detail of the children of John and Charlotte Smith, > (My g/grandparents) Their daughter??? Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith married > John Samuel Coleman in 1900, from that marriage came my mother Elvie > Adelaide Browning nee Coleman, born 18/9/1913 at Fentonbury. > Can any lister help me with detail of John and Charlotte Smith’s children > please? > If you need any additional info, please ask, I will try to facillitate > Best regards > Tas > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, once again many thanks to all who forwarded detail to me in regards to the Coleman query. this one is closely related,. this time I am seeking detail of the children of John and Charlotte Smith, (My g/grandparents) Their daughter??? Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith married John Samuel Coleman in 1900, from that marriage came my mother Elvie Adelaide Browning nee Coleman, born 18/9/1913 at Fentonbury. Can any lister help me with detail of John and Charlotte Smith’s children please? If you need any additional info, please ask, I will try to facillitate Best regards Tas

Hi All, Recently Joyce Purtscher compiled the noted from the Minute Books into this publication (available from Tas Family History Society, Inc., Hobart Branch). She tells me that the last item on page 51 in the Benevolent Society's book should read MAWER Charles & Emily, not ER Charles & Emily. If you have bought this book please amend the error and future copies will be corrected. Cheers, Maree

Hi Listers, Once again you deliver the goods. Maree and Lee-ann gave me advice, I didn't realise in the census when referred "other free person" meant previously he was a convict. I love the new Linc names search, so easy, I found marriages and births for Robert's daughter Sarah MASON. Thank you very much Noela from Melb

My thanks to each of you for your quick response, I am most appreciative. I will digest it all and seek some other documents and let you know where when and How. Best regards to all Tas From: Peter Oakley Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:42 PM To: Jessie Dominy Cc: Tas Browning ; aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-Tas] Coleman family Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith was married to John Samuel Coleman at New Norfolk on May 2nd 1900 according to the usages of the Weslyan Methodist Church. Her residence was Glen Fern, age 21, occupation: gentlewoman, spinster. Birth-place: Newtown Tasmania. Father; James Smith, Farmer, Mother: Charlotte Smith. James smith and Charlotte Harris married at O'Brien's Bridge 1865 - http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-24p102j2k Children - Albert Henry http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-10-p466j2k Charles Hebert http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-11-p672j2k Charles Herbert (another ??) http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-59p850j2k William http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-11-p034j2k unnamed http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-9-p470j2k unnamed http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-48p029j2k I've helped Tas with this enquiry in the past and Adelaide certainly doesn't appear in civil birth registrations for the 1879-79 when she would have been born based on her age of 21 in 1900. Tas have you done any research on John and Charlotte Smith? If John or Charlotte had brothers and sisters in Tassie it went through my mind perhaps she may have been a child of one of their siblings, perhaps illegitimate? One possibility for the whispered rumour you had she might be adopted? Cheers, Peter On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jessie Dominy via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: "...Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith Married John Samuel Coleman in 1900." Can you please give all the information on this marriage certificate, should be some clues to Adelaide's origins. ------------------------------- AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if it's possible to get hold of trial transcripts from 1877, and if so, where would I apply? Here's hoping, Susan

Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith was married to John Samuel Coleman at New Norfolk on May 2nd 1900 according to the usages of the Weslyan Methodist Church. Her residence was Glen Fern, age 21, occupation: gentlewoman, spinster. Birth-place: Newtown Tasmania. Father; James Smith, Farmer, Mother: Charlotte Smith. James smith and Charlotte Harris married at O'Brien's Bridge 1865 - http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-24p102j2k Children - Albert Henry http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-10-p466j2k Charles Hebert http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-11-p672j2k Charles Herbert (another ??) http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-59p850j2k William http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-11-p034j2k unnamed http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-9-p470j2k unnamed http://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-48p029j2k I've helped Tas with this enquiry in the past and Adelaide certainly doesn't appear in civil birth registrations for the 1879-79 when she would have been born based on her age of 21 in 1900. Tas have you done any research on John and Charlotte Smith? If John or Charlotte had brothers and sisters in Tassie it went through my mind perhaps she may have been a child of one of their siblings, perhaps illegitimate? One possibility for the whispered rumour you had she might be adopted? Cheers, Peter On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jessie Dominy via < aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > "...Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith Married John Samuel Coleman in 1900." > > Can you please give all the information on this marriage certificate, > should be some clues to Adelaide's origins. > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tas, I may have been in touch with you previously with the information that I have Coleman's in my ancestry and they are connected to the Cato family (my paternal grandmother) was a Maida Cato who married to Robert James Brown in Cygnet, Tasmania. I don't have an extensive Cato family tree in my possession but did get a print out of a family reunion which took place decades ago. Cheers Ainslie Pyne (nee Brown)

Hi Listers, I continue to research (amongst others) the Coleman family, and as a part I continue to seek detail related Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith.to date there is no known birth certificate for her, there is indication, though vague, that she may well have been adopted, but only from 1920 were adoptions recorded, before that period adoptions were in part made privately. Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith Married John Samuel Coleman in 1900. from that marriage there were children, one of whom was my mother, but we have been unable to find her birth certificate or baptism record/s. Can anyone help with detail and or advice please? It would be most appreciated. Kind regards Tas

Brilliant Douglas. Have been able to put my files right! Helen Sent from my iPad > On 18 Nov 2014, at 12:45 pm, Andrew Cocker via <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi > An old farming property near Campbell Town has a birdbath in the garden > which has on the base "George Rodham Home Sams 17/5/1886 - 26/11/1888". It > is a little curious. > I have found his death registration and the inquest report online which show > he died in Deloraine after accidentally drinking carbolic acid but not who > his parents were. > > Richard Horace Sams, born in Westbury in 1864 to William George Gardiner > Sams and Sarah Rose Archer, married the great niece of Hugh Murray, the > original land grantee where the birdbath was found but I can't see a > connection. > > Would be grateful for any suggestions, as the owners would like to know the > history. > > Regards > Andrew > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"...Adelaide Mary Blanche Smith Married John Samuel Coleman in 1900." Can you please give all the information on this marriage certificate, should be some clues to Adelaide's origins.

Childs inquest from Examiner http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38324266 details sent to enquirer separately as well

Hi An old farming property near Campbell Town has a birdbath in the garden which has on the base "George Rodham Home Sams 17/5/1886 - 26/11/1888". It is a little curious. I have found his death registration and the inquest report online which show he died in Deloraine after accidentally drinking carbolic acid but not who his parents were. Richard Horace Sams, born in Westbury in 1864 to William George Gardiner Sams and Sarah Rose Archer, married the great niece of Hugh Murray, the original land grantee where the birdbath was found but I can't see a connection. Would be grateful for any suggestions, as the owners would like to know the history. Regards Andrew

Hi Andrew, A search of Trove turned up a report on the inquest in the Launceston Examiner, 28 November 1888, p. 2. This report gives the name of young George's father as William Thomas SAMS. A further quick & dirty check of the Colonial Family Links database gives William Thomas SAMS as a son of William George Gardiner SAMS and Sarah Rose formerly ARCHER. Richard Horace SAMS was therefore an uncle to young George. Douglas Link to Trove article: http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38324266?searchTerm=george%20sams%20carbolic&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||requestHandler|||dateFrom|||dateTo|||l-advstate=Tasmania|||sortby=dateAsc|||l-decade=188|||l-year=1888|||l-month=11 On 18/11/2014 10:45 AM, Andrew Cocker via wrote: > Hi > An old farming property near Campbell Town has a birdbath in the garden > which has on the base "George Rodham Home Sams 17/5/1886 - 26/11/1888". It > is a little curious. > I have found his death registration and the inquest report online which show > he died in Deloraine after accidentally drinking carbolic acid but not who > his parents were. > > Richard Horace Sams, born in Westbury in 1864 to William George Gardiner > Sams and Sarah Rose Archer, married the great niece of Hugh Murray, the > original land grantee where the birdbath was found but I can't see a > connection. > > Would be grateful for any suggestions, as the owners would like to know the > history. > > Regards > Andrew > > > ------------------------------- > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com > Search the Archive (type AUS-Tasmania in the list box) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-TASMANIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi I noticed this CD on the list of resources available at the National Library of Australia but you have to visit the library and use thier CD and that is not practical for me as it is in Canberra several hours drive. So I was hoping someone on this list might have access to a copy. I am aware it is for NSW but am not a member of that list and thought some others on this list may have interests in NSW and thus have a copy. If you can help me I would really appreciate it as it mentions Military personal and I have recently found out that before comign to Tasmania as part of the 40th Regiment my ancestors had a brief stop off in Sydney where one child was born in 1826 and it is likely that they maybe on this CD as they were in the military which it says there is alot of info about on the CD Any help appreciated. Mabel

Hi, Havent found a family member as yet, but a very nice lady on this list Suzanne has helped me with everything , plus more that I had requested. She has given very generously of her time and I appreciate it very much. thanks suzanne Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie via" <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:08 AM Subject: [AUS-Tas] John Webber born 1803, Stogursey, Somerset,marr Catherine McCaffrey/McCaffray born c1838? in 1857, Evandale > Hi, > Anyone researching the above couple please and can share notes. I am > going > pretty well but would love some meat on bones. Wanting a little a bit > more > on Catherine McCaffreys family. I havent found a birth for her as yet. > She > was only 19 and John Webber 45 when they were married in the dwelling > house > of Kennedy murray Esq, Evandale 9th August 1857. I had a lovely surprise > when I found Catherines will dated 1889, she died 1888. It was a full > page. Her husband was a convict transported in 1845, so wasnt expecting > it. >

Hi, Anyone researching the above couple please and can share notes. I am going pretty well but would love some meat on bones. Wanting a little a bit more on Catherine McCaffreys family. I havent found a birth for her as yet. She was only 19 and John Webber 45 when they were married in the dwelling house of Kennedy murray Esq, Evandale 9th August 1857. I had a lovely surprise when I found Catherines will dated 1889, she died 1888. It was a full page. Her husband was a convict transported in 1845, so wasnt expecting it. She was only 50 when she died. I have a daughter Webber born 1864, unknown name and a unknown son, 1874, plus Catherine mentions her adopted son John in her will as well. So more on those would be good.Most of that chart is filled in. I have made charts out for each of the children for each generation. Topping my familytreemaker up gradually. Some photos if willing to share would be lovely. Our line is Richard and Elizabeth Webber, nee Tucker, married 1793, Stogursey/Stolford, Somerset, England John and Catherine Webber nee McCaffray/McCaffrey married 1857 and all children born at Morven/Evandale Francis Joseph and Annie Maria Webber nee Wells 1892, all children but one,born Evandale. Last daughter listed as born Everton. My childrens Grandmothers maternal line, Cox, Flood, Webber, Laing and related lines etc Thanks for any help Edie McArthur

Hello I was sent this today from man named Alan [I think in Canada] Anyway Alan was going through the UK Regimental & service records? and found this on Samuel NELSON Samuel Nelson was not Irish at all he was Scottish It did not say this on his records it says it on his arrest papers for Desertion It was other researchers that said that he was Irish and I knew they were wrong For one thing he age never added up I am sending this so it will go in the lists rootsweb archives for other researchers to find and for the Convict gathers to add to his page online Army Deserters 1828-1840 Transcription First name(s): Samuel Last name: NELSON Age years: 21 years Birth year: 1815 Birth parish: Birth town: Maybole Birth county: Ayrshire Birth country: Scotland Corps: 8th Foot Year: 1836 Day: 16 Month: July Summary: 8th Foot; 21; Maybole; Ayr; * Servant; 16 Jul 1836 Record set: Army Deserters 1828-1840 Category: Armed forces & conflict Record collection: Regimental & service records Collections: United Kingdom *Servant mean he was a 'servant' when he joined at the age of 16 years in 1836. Wikipedia says: Maybole is a burgh of barony and police burgh of South Ayrshire, Scotland. Pop. (2001) 4,552. It is situated 9 miles (14 km) south of Ayr and 50 miles (80 km) southwest of Glasgow by the Glasgow and South Western Railway. I am on Scotlandspeople web site and have a few credits so I am going to see if I can find his birth. I also have the actual entry for the SA Adelaide Hospital for Samuel NELSON of Anlaby Station or record of when he was sick I will tell anyone who wants to know what I find on him in Scotland Just email me Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY jillmorley@bigpond.com 'Genealogy without Documentation is Mythology' .....,'~._|\, ,/Australia\ \_,-----\*,_,/ .............*...

Hi Listers, I am coming to Hobart next week and hope to find out if the Robert MASON who owned 2 houses in Green Ponds, in the census 1842, is the convict on the Malabar 1821. He had 3 daughters with a Susan/Sussanna, Sarah, Emma Smith 1824 and Lucy 1826. He dissolved a partnership with John HOPKINS in the Hobart newspaper April 1841. John HOPKINS and his wife were the witnesses at Lucy's wedding Sept 1840, she was only 14yrs and pregnant, could that be the reason for break up of partnership? There is a death 29-8-1848 of Sarah MASON, would the cert tell me anything about her father? Two deaths of Robert MASON don't match with the convict age, and would the cert say he was a convict, or that he came to the colony on the Malabar? Would the Lands Office records of the homes in Green Ponds tell me anything that could help? Would there be records of partnerships that I could see? Can you suggest any other way I could find further information? Whew! Big ask I realise. Noela from Melbourne.

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