Hi Graeme, Suspect the initials S.R.D refer to this gent (taken from death notification) - The Courier, 18th Feb 1842 THE LATE S. R. DAWSON, Esq. -With unfeigned regret we announce the death of Samuel R. Dawson, Esq , J. P., for many years past resident at Clarence Plains, where he per- formed the magisterial duties with that impartiality and justice which so justly obtained for him the esteem of every resident there. This melancholy occurrence took place at his residence, Claremont, on Saturday, the 5th instant, in the 49th year of his age, after a long and painful illness, which he bore with unremitting patience and Christian fortitude. His loss cannot be more deeply lamented by those who were favoured with his acquaintance, than severely felt and de- plored by a family over which he watched with the most tender solicitude. His urbanity of manner, upright conduct, benevolent and unassuming disposition, procured for him the esteem of all who knew him ; and in saying that it will be long ere his station in society be filled by a more worthy or efficient member, we echo but the sentiments of the com- munity in general. Cheers, Peter On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Lorraine Wootton <[email protected]> wrote: > Graeme, the initials at the end of the sentence are those of the > Magistrate/s that a convict appeared before. > > In this case it's the Magistrate who "Admonished" Joseph. > > If you take a look at the Female Convict Research Centre website (it's > fantastic for anything to do with Female Convicts especially), you'll find > a list of the names and districts of most known Magistrates whose > signatures you find on convict records. > > I can't find an SBT, but some of the letters are easily mistaken, so just > have another look at your record, and if you know the district where Joseph > was assigned, that's another clue to the identity of the Magistrate. > > Daniel Stanfield Snr came very early from Norfolk Is and lived at Clarence > Plains / Green Point from at least 1816 until his death in 1826 with land > at Cross Marsh. > Daniel Stanfield Jnr appears to have taken over at Clarence Plains and > also had land at Ralph's Bay after 1826. > > https://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/docs/lists/Magistrates.pdf > > Good luck and I hope this helps others too.....Lorraine. > > -----Original Message----- From: graeme > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:29 PM > To: AUS-TAS > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Request for assistence re Joseph Pedder (1806-1883) > > > Greetings Meryl and members, > > On reading Joseph’s convict record while consigned to Daniel Stanfield etc > . it states while absent with leave Admon, SBD - 3 days cells on bread > and water SBD -- Absent without leave etc SBD ???? > > My thoughts are that it is the initials of the name of the person (writer) > who made the entry ?? > > Can anyone explain these please .. > > > cheers all, stay safe Graeme Pedder > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Graeme, the initials at the end of the sentence are those of the Magistrate/s that a convict appeared before. In this case it's the Magistrate who "Admonished" Joseph. If you take a look at the Female Convict Research Centre website (it's fantastic for anything to do with Female Convicts especially), you'll find a list of the names and districts of most known Magistrates whose signatures you find on convict records. I can't find an SBT, but some of the letters are easily mistaken, so just have another look at your record, and if you know the district where Joseph was assigned, that's another clue to the identity of the Magistrate. Daniel Stanfield Snr came very early from Norfolk Is and lived at Clarence Plains / Green Point from at least 1816 until his death in 1826 with land at Cross Marsh. Daniel Stanfield Jnr appears to have taken over at Clarence Plains and also had land at Ralph's Bay after 1826. https://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/docs/lists/Magistrates.pdf Good luck and I hope this helps others too.....Lorraine. -----Original Message----- From: graeme Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:29 PM To: AUS-TAS Subject: [AUS-Tas] Request for assistence re Joseph Pedder (1806-1883) Greetings Meryl and members, On reading Joseph’s convict record while consigned to Daniel Stanfield etc . it states while absent with leave Admon, SBD - 3 days cells on bread and water SBD -- Absent without leave etc SBD ???? My thoughts are that it is the initials of the name of the person (writer) who made the entry ?? Can anyone explain these please .. cheers all, stay safe Graeme Pedder _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

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Hi Graeme, There is a list of magistrates and justices of the peace who heard cases and dolled out sentences here.... https://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/docs/lists/Magistrates.pdf Sadly SBD isn't listed.  :-( Cheers, Maree On 20/06/2018 12:29 PM, graeme wrote: > Greetings Meryl and members, > > On reading Joseph’s convict record while consigned to Daniel Stanfield etc . it states while absent with leave Admon, SBD - 3 days cells on bread and water SBD -- Absent without leave etc SBD ???? > > My thoughts are that it is the initials of the name of the person (writer) who made the entry ?? > > Can anyone explain these please .. > > > cheers all, stay safe Graeme Pedder > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Graeme, The initials are not so much the person who made the entry, but the initials of the magistrate who presided at the hearing where Joseph Pedder received the punishments. Not sure who "S.R.D." was, but he would have been a magistrate. Douglas On 20/06/2018 11:29 AM, graeme wrote: > Greetings Meryl and members, > > On reading Joseph’s convict record while consigned to Daniel Stanfield etc . it states while absent with leave Admon, SBD - 3 days cells on bread and water SBD -- Absent without leave etc SBD ???? > > My thoughts are that it is the initials of the name of the person (writer) who made the entry ?? > > Can anyone explain these please .. > > > cheers all, stay safe Graeme Pedder > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- E-mail: [email protected] ----------------------- Osaka, Japan http://www.burbury.net (Burbury family research website)

Greetings Meryl and members, On reading Joseph’s convict record while consigned to Daniel Stanfield etc . it states while absent with leave Admon, SBD - 3 days cells on bread and water SBD -- Absent without leave etc SBD ???? My thoughts are that it is the initials of the name of the person (writer) who made the entry ?? Can anyone explain these please .. cheers all, stay safe Graeme Pedder

Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Meryl Yost <[email protected]> Date: 09/06/2018 12:48 AM (GMT+00:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Tas Archives search changes https://www.linc.tas.gov.au/features/Pages/archives-search.aspx regards, Meryl Yost, Launceston, Tasmania ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Administrator: AUS-Tasmania mailing list http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/home/maillist.htm AUS-Tasmania Genealogy pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi all New to the list I hope someone is able to help as I have a bit of a brick wall here Charles W H THOPE pops up in Patricks Plains in NSW in the 1850s, married To Susannah Waters He is believed to be born 1830 in Tasmania. Some trees on Ancestry have him as son of Charles Thorpe and Martha Dudley who were convicts. I am not sure how to prove, disprove this one? I do need to find his true parents.. NB two of his sons were also in NSW police force. Most grateful for any ideas. Kind regards Marg O'Leary Hunter Valley NSW

Thank you all for your replies re cemeteries, much appreciated Cheers Lyn VIC

Flinders Island Cemetery Flinders Is: Lady Barron Cemetery Flinders Is: Whitemark Cemetery Flinders Is: Wybalenna Cemetery And of course there will be places where folk were buried privately on the Island. Cheers C -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 9:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] WHITEMARK CEMETERY G'day All, Is Whitemark cemetery the only cemetery on Flinders Island? Cheers Lyn _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

No, there is one at Wybalena established for the burial of the aboriginal community members removed from mainland Tasmania. On Mon, 18 Jun 2018, 9:46 PM Lyn Carruthers <[email protected]> wrote: > G'day All, > Is Whitemark cemetery the only cemetery on Flinders Island? > Cheers > Lyn > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

G'day All, Is Whitemark cemetery the only cemetery on Flinders Island? Cheers Lyn

Hi Clorice, l found the article you were asking about and I tried to send a copy to your bigpond email and it came back undeliverable even though the attachment is less than a mg? Cheers, Prer Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jun 2018, at 8:53 pm, Clorice Lapthorne <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Peter yes it happened on 26 July 1984,his name was Daryl murphy,my brothers boy > Thank you for your input > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Peter Oakley > Sent: Monday, 11 June 2018 7:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: death at lake Mckenzie > > Hi Clorice, > > Do you have a date when the incident took place? Pretty hard scanning through a months worth of Advocates looking for the article? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 10 Jun 2018, at 5:58 pm, Clorice Lapthorne <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Can anyone help please I am looking for the advocate write up in September 1984of the accidental >> Death as above >> Thank you >> Clorice lapthorne >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ >> >> Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Peter, I’ll check them out when I’m next in Hobart. Cheers, Joanna Sent from my iPad > On Jun 18, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Peter Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Joanna, > > Don't know if this helps but here are some letters described in TAHO > Collections relating to George Carr Clark - > > https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/results?qu= > george&qu=carr&qu=clark&isd=true# > > Unfortunately they have not been digitized and are unavailable online. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Joanna Mendelssohn < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Listers, >> I am trying to locate any records of George Carr Clark’s property at >> Ellenthorpe Hall, especially from 1850 onwards, and specifically of people >> who may have been employed there. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joanna Mendelssohn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- >> [email protected]/ >> >> Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- >> [email protected]/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Joanna, Don't know if this helps but here are some letters described in TAHO Collections relating to George Carr Clark - https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/results?qu= george&qu=carr&qu=clark&isd=true# Unfortunately they have not been digitized and are unavailable online. Cheers, Peter On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Joanna Mendelssohn < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Listers, > I am trying to locate any records of George Carr Clark’s property at > Ellenthorpe Hall, especially from 1850 onwards, and specifically of people > who may have been employed there. > > Thanks, > > Joanna Mendelssohn > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/aus- > [email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you for your reply Bill. Cheers Lyn VIC

Hi Listers, I am trying to locate any records of George Carr Clark’s property at Ellenthorpe Hall, especially from 1850 onwards, and specifically of people who may have been employed there. Thanks, Joanna Mendelssohn

Hi Margaret No glossary that I am aware of. Mike posted a note not long ago here explaining some of the terms 'Memorial' 'Indenture' etc. perhaps if you mention some of the terms you are particularly interested in, he may oblige again. Regards Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Nichols <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 15 June 2018 5:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: Deeds library update Many thanks for this link, Malcolm. I wonder if you know if there is a glossary of terms used on the website? I am interested in the historic deeds and the online Help manual does not include this. With thanks, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Malcolm [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 15 June 2018 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Deeds library update Hi list The index to Tas deeds 1827-1972 is now on The List web site www.thelist.tas.gov.au (actually been up for a while). Click on 'Properties and Titles' - you have to create an account to search. They are scanned PDFs of the original indexes, arranged by year spans. Note for the early series 1827-1926, they are typed and OCRed, so you can search by 'Find'. The deeds themselves are not up yet - expected by the end of this month (planned). I'm in the Deeds office and they are copying the deeds I want onto a USB. They have scanned a lot more than just the deeds - there are "proclamations', the LTO copies of wills, deposit deeds, Torrens Title indexes. I'm told they are uncertain at the moment as to how they will be made accessible. Malcolm _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] m/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] m/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] m/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] m/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have a vague recollection of the term also being used to describe descendants of the European sealers and their aboriginal women partners, who continued to live on the islands and in some cases still do. Straitsman was  the name chosen for the small roll-on roll-off vessel that traded in Bass Strait in the 1960s onward and which famously capsized coming into port in Melbourne after some crew member opened the rear "door" while ship was still underway, letting the wake in and flooding the vehicle deck, as I recall. On 16/06/2018 9:25 PM, Lyn Carruthers wrote: > Thank you for your reply Julie. It sounds spot on as some of the men were > sealers and straitsmen. I thought more towards boatmen, didn't think of the > decline of the seals. > Cheers > Lyn > > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Thank you for your reply Julie. It sounds spot on as some of the men were sealers and straitsmen. I thought more towards boatmen, didn't think of the decline of the seals. Cheers Lyn