I will see if I can find deaths though you seem to have done everything. What about Victoria? Sent from my iPad > On 17 Jul 2018, at 2:08 pm, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Helen, > > Thanks for clues about passenger lists. Yes I've tried every search imaginable in NZ. I wonder whether the children died in Tasmania. > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:01 PM > Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > > >> Hi Chris. >> Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy family. Than just as Mis or Master. >> It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . >> Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? >> Helen Brown >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Listers, >>> >>> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively >>> >>> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >>> >>> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. >>> >>> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >>> >>> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. >>> >>> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. >>> >>> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. >>> >>> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >>> >>> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >>> >>> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. >>> >>> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? >>> >>> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >>> >>> Thanking you in anticipation. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> Melbourne >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >>> Contact Admin [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >>> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >>> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >>> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >>> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Not too many by now I hope! -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: I am a millionaire, no more searching for my rellies :-) I agree wholeheartedly Dawn and I wonder how many gullible people there are out there, who will answer this rubbish :-( Cheers Lyn _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Did she marry Liz and if so could this be her marriage? Cheers Lyn Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899 Surname: EDWARDS Given Names: HARRIETT ANN Event: Marriage Father/Spouse Surname: MCDERMOTT Mother/Spouse Given Names: FREDERICK WILLIAM Day: 03 Month: 1 Year: 1891 Age: 22......born c1869 Sex: F Spouse Age: 22 Spouse Sex: M Registration Place: HOBART Registration Number: 411/1891 Reference: RGD 37 mmunity
Hi Helen, Thanks for clues about passenger lists. Yes I've tried every search imaginable in NZ. I wonder whether the children died in Tasmania. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:01 PM Subject: [AUS-Tas] Re: looking for Charlotte Carr 1845 and brother Adam Carr 1847- Tasmania > Hi Chris. > Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy > family. Than just as Mis or Master. > It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might > find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . > Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? > Helen Brown > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to >> locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at >> Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born >> 1845 and 47 respectively >> >> Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka >> Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children >> in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed >> Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen >> Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. >> >> I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for >> Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. >> >> As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) >> eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and >> asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr >> who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out >> from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. >> >> For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam >> Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he >> fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby >> Ellen's death. >> >> Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but >> the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some >> 20 years later in Auckland. >> >> My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 >> (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL >> with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port >> Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before >> on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as >> infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. >> >> As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, >> Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of >> birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. >> >> I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy >> via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy >> at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked >> them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. >> They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I >> have wads of information about their lives in NZ. >> >> In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they >> arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom >> appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 >> boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. >> >> My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 >> and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would >> leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in >> foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate >> their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children >> not listed on shipping lists? >> >> From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> Melbourne >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ >> Contact Admin [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe and Archives >> https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >
Hello.. can someone help me please with the death of Harriet Ann EDWARDs...born 1865 Blackman's Bay Tas. TIS -- Regards *Liz Clempson*
I agree wholeheartedly Dawn and I wonder how many gullible people there are out there, who will answer this rubbish :-( Cheers Lyn
I can see that the internet etc etc will be killed by just this sort of thing in years to come. And then we shall be back to the days of pen and ink etc - if we can still know what they are! And the postman - problem is, the post office is not nearly as prompt and reliable as they were about 100 years ago and even in the 1960s - two deliveries weekdays and one Sat morning then - and even say five years ago. Sad, the spam and hackers killing it all! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Carruthers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2018 1:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] I am a millionaire, no more searching for my rellies :-) G'day All, I have just received a letter, letting me know that I have the right to claim a $US35 million inheritance (or at least a share). Now I can afford to sit back and let a genealogy expert to do all the work for me. It stated it got my name from the Australian ancestry portfolio. Anybody ever heard of this mob? Naturally I will bin it :-) Cheers Lyn Ps: They had my name and address correct, which bothers me as I have never put it out there. _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Congratulations Lyn, I'm happy to help with your research for a share of your share :) Ray PS I'm guessing they want your bank account details to transfer the money :) On 17/07/2018 1:21 PM, Lyn Carruthers wrote: > G'day All, > I have just received a letter, letting me know that I have the right to > claim a $US35 million > inheritance (or at least a share). > Now I can afford to sit back and let a genealogy expert to do all the work > for me. > It stated it got my name from the Australian ancestry portfolio. Anybody > ever heard of this mob? > Naturally I will bin it :-) > Cheers > Lyn > Ps: They had my name and address correct, which bothers me as I have never > put it out there. > > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
G'day All, I have just received a letter, letting me know that I have the right to claim a $US35 million inheritance (or at least a share). Now I can afford to sit back and let a genealogy expert to do all the work for me. It stated it got my name from the Australian ancestry portfolio. Anybody ever heard of this mob? Naturally I will bin it :-) Cheers Lyn Ps: They had my name and address correct, which bothers me as I have never put it out there.
Hi Chris. Children were not usually named on passenger lists unless it was a wealthy family. Than just as Mis or Master. It seems l likely they would have travelled with their parents. You might find marriage and death records in MZ. I expect you have tried both . Very frustrating for you. Have you tried under the mother’s maiden name? Helen Brown Sent from my iPad > On 17 Jul 2018, at 11:25 am, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Listers, > > I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively > > Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. > > I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. > > As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. > > For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. > > Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. > > My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. > > As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. > > I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. > > In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. > > My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? > > From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > > > Chris > > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I'm interested too please Irene. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:21 PM To: [email protected] com; [email protected] Subject: [AUS-Tas] Trying to solve the mystery of the two William Nichol(l) Dear Lists I have decided to try and follow the Norfolk Island William Nichols, keeping in mind the dates and times of the one who came with Lt. Gov.Collins in 1803. Before I send it to the list I would like someone to have a look at what I written to see if there are something I have missed. Anyone interested let me know by email [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> and I will send the three pages by attachment. Regards Irene --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I am interested Irene seeing he was involved with my family. Cheers Robyn Barratt Sent from my iPad > On Jul 17, 2018, at 12:21 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Lists > > > > > > I have decided to try and follow the Norfolk Island William Nichols, keeping > in mind the dates and times of the one who came with Lt. Gov.Collins in > 1803. > > > > Before I send it to the list I would like someone to have a look at what I > written to see if there are something I have missed. Anyone interested > let me know by email [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> and I will send the three pages by > attachment. > > > > Regards > > > > Irene > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > Dear Lists > > > > > > I have decided to try and follow the Norfolk Island William Nichols, keeping > in mind the dates and times of the one who came with Lt. Gov.Collins in > 1803. > > > > Before I send it to the list I would like someone to have a look at what I > written to see if there are something I have missed. Anyone interested > let me know by email [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> and I will send the three pages by > attachment. > > > > Regards > > > > Irene > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ > Contact Admin [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Dear Lists I have decided to try and follow the Norfolk Island William Nichols, keeping in mind the dates and times of the one who came with Lt. Gov.Collins in 1803. Before I send it to the list I would like someone to have a look at what I written to see if there are something I have missed. Anyone interested let me know by email [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> and I will send the three pages by attachment. Regards Irene --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Hello Listers, I have hit a brick wall and would welcome your input. I am trying to locate 2 people born in 1845 and 1847 in the Female Factory at Launceston. Their names are Charlotte Carr and her brother Adam Carr born 1845 and 47 respectively Their mother who is my gr gr grandmother was Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr, a convict per Mexborough, arriving in 1841 VDL. She had 3 children in Tasmania, the 2 listed above and a daughter born April 1843 unnamed Kerr. This child died 9 months later in Jan 1844 and was named Ellen Kerr. As she died in the Female factory there was an inquest. I have birth certificates for these 3 children as well as death cert for Ellen Kerr and father's name was not recorded for any of these births. As Charlotte Richardson/Kerr and her partner Adam Moore (x convict) eventually settled in Auckland about 1852, I followed some leads and asked the New Zealand list for more information about a Charlotte Kerr who died in Christchurch. I have now been able to rule this person out from NZ and am seeking input from our Aus-Tas listers. For additional context, Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr partnered with Adam Moore, also a convict, per Maitland arriving 1844 and I suspect that he fathered 2 babies, Charlotte and Adam Carr as he arrived well after baby Ellen's death. Adam Moore made an application to marry Charlotte Kerr in Oct 1847 but the application seems inconclusive. The couple eventually married some 20 years later in Auckland. My question is this. What happened to these 2 children born 1845 and 1847 (Charlotte and Adam Carr). I have been unable to track them leaving VDL with their mother in Jan 1849 when she sailed on the "Clarence" to Port Fairy. Adam Moore her partner had sailed to Port Fairy the month before on "Julia Percy". I thought that the children may have died as infants/young children but can't locate a death in Tasmania or Victoria. As an aside I located a death of an Adam Moore in 1884, aged 37, drover, Launceston, but haven't found out anything about him yet. The year of birth would fit! His birth does not appear in Tasmania. I have tracked Adam Moore senior and Charlotte now Moore to Port Fairy via Jenny Fawcett's newspaper index. I know that they lived in Port Fairy at least until November 1851 when Adam had a court appearance. I tracked them to Auckland with Adam Moore appearing on electoral rolls from 1854. They remained in NZ until their respective deaths in 1883 and 1882. I have wads of information about their lives in NZ. In between leaving Tasmania and their convict lives to the time that they arrived in Auckland c 1852 they had 3 boys in Victoria, none of whom appears to have a birth registration. I am utterly convinced that these 3 boys are my relatives as per evidence on their death certificates. My brickwall is this "what happened to the little children born in 1845 and 1847 to Charlotte Carr ? would it be likely that their parents would leave them behind in Tasmania? If so would they have been placed in foster care or the equivalent, did they die and if so can anyone locate their deaths. If they left VDL with their mother or father, were children not listed on shipping lists? From their births in 1845 and 1847 these 2 children just disappeared. Thanking you in anticipation. Chris Melbourne
I have searched and found that on 8th November 1875 the above man died at sea on the vessel Nineveh which became one of the vessels owned by the Australian government as the white Star line. Descendants of Frederick believed that he went to Australia but the records do not indicate that this happened. I have investigated a trip by Nineveh about that time which did come to Australia and there was an outbreak of chicken pox and a number of children died and the vessel was quarantined. However the only deaths were recorded were children and one woman. I have wondered if he was a merchant seaman and this is why his death is not mentioned in the records about the passengers? I also wonder as to what happened to his body as the records do not state anything. Was he buried at sea or was his body returned to England and to his wife and family. How can I determine the answers to these questions? Anyone who is happy to help me get some answers please let me know and I can send you what I have off line, Ian Turnbull
Interesting, Further to my initial query, at the suggestion of List Mum Meryl I had a look at the historical land charts for the area (something which I should have done in the first place). I see that a William HILL purchased 640 acres of land fronting directly onto the eastern side of Long Plains Road in the West Tamar. Who would this William Hill have been? Probably not the William Hill of "Williamwood" near Ross, but quite possibly his nephew, son of his brother John Hill. Which is interesting indeed, since the "skilled stonemason" in question was James Colbeck, who worked on the Ross Bridge. Douglas On 15/07/2018 2:20 PM, Douglas Burbury wrote: > Hi List, > > My query is about a place known as "Long Plains" in Northern Tasmania. > Where was it in 1843? What was it in 1843? > > The words "Long Plains" are written at the top of an 1843 census return > for Parish No. 8 in the West Tamar. (CEN 1/69/54) > > I have done some searching, and I have found a Long Plains Road that > runs from the Frankford Highway to Bridgenorth, inland from Exeter. > > (I have also found references to a 1200-acre property called "Long > Plain" near Deloraine which was for sale in 1840/1841, but that seems to > be well out of the way, so I'm discounting it.) > > Assuming the Long Plains Road reference is somewhere near the mark, does > anyone know of a building which currently or formerly existed in this > area, which might have engaged the services of a highly-skilled > stonemason for several years around 1842/3 ??? > > Douglas > > > > > > -- E-mail: [email protected] ----------------------- Osaka, Japan https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.burbury.net&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=FnXoV4-fDQSfwrmp1wtn-1T52JspHC53fBr9nXD9wZ4&s=2CaO1cmOCv4p9ePavkHMBpamI35fHy3ywTFVnXXvRcY&e= (Burbury family research website)
Hi Douglas William Dawson Grubb had some land granted in that vicinity. If anyone could afford a skilled stonemason, it would be WDG. It’s the Parish of St Michael’s, Devon. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__search.archives.tas.gov.au_default.aspx-3Fdetail-3D1-26type-3DI-26id-3DAF396_1_625&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=NINAG9VjjqhXeXR7bRgQYfvofbliEeV39ryc1bx-N3M&s=t6qK5CXJlpdu0KC5mTC4ELLMiRWAUjbaOaHumI1DTuY&e= I’ve been researching Daniel and Patrick Spillane, who bought land on Long Plains road, but not until the 1860s. Cheers Catherine On 15 Jul 2018, at 3:20 pm, Douglas Burbury <[email protected]> wrote: Hi List, My query is about a place known as "Long Plains" in Northern Tasmania. Where was it in 1843? What was it in 1843? The words "Long Plains" are written at the top of an 1843 census return for Parish No. 8 in the West Tamar. (CEN 1/69/54) I have done some searching, and I have found a Long Plains Road that runs from the Frankford Highway to Bridgenorth, inland from Exeter. (I have also found references to a 1200-acre property called "Long Plain" near Deloraine which was for sale in 1840/1841, but that seems to be well out of the way, so I'm discounting it.) Assuming the Long Plains Road reference is somewhere near the mark, does anyone know of a building which currently or formerly existed in this area, which might have engaged the services of a highly-skilled stonemason for several years around 1842/3 ??? Douglas -- E-mail: [email protected] ----------------------- Osaka, Japan https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.burbury.net&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3aC85CaKBjxGjQdfF9YJ9UC-Lnr5TZ_1ZolojAAR9Qg&s=ApiP6AMe9ud37O4yReZMpaZ8uZFDW74UE7DR2kxAO1U&e= (Burbury family research website) _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=NINAG9VjjqhXeXR7bRgQYfvofbliEeV39ryc1bx-N3M&s=Do1GKi5qt9ZhLrSD0k1ZJTLY7XaoCLR39I7h2pJdwqY&e= Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania/ Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=NINAG9VjjqhXeXR7bRgQYfvofbliEeV39ryc1bx-N3M&s=7SSNtIsJlDXdXBnLKpBN5LUnXKjnJQ6WDqFEWpRfOpU&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=NINAG9VjjqhXeXR7bRgQYfvofbliEeV39ryc1bx-N3M&s=RgabrmalmbAXXwTyof659d3RAi48cLxW22ThMCdsJ64&e= Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=NINAG9VjjqhXeXR7bRgQYfvofbliEeV39ryc1bx-N3M&s=zpkqdkOm_vDwJ_HJ7dYx_u12ZYdD3bhvxk8VDWGFZUw&e= RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Douglas, a place that may be able to assist is the West Tamar Historical Society. They can be found at westtamarhs dot com Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Burbury [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2018 15:20 To: AUS-TASMANIA Subject: [AUS-Tas] Long Plains, West Tamar Hi List, My query is about a place known as "Long Plains" in Northern Tasmania. Where was it in 1843? What was it in 1843? The words "Long Plains" are written at the top of an 1843 census return for Parish No. 8 in the West Tamar. (CEN 1/69/54) I have done some searching, and I have found a Long Plains Road that runs from the Frankford Highway to Bridgenorth, inland from Exeter. (I have also found references to a 1200-acre property called "Long Plain" near Deloraine which was for sale in 1840/1841, but that seems to be well out of the way, so I'm discounting it.) Assuming the Long Plains Road reference is somewhere near the mark, does anyone know of a building which currently or formerly existed in this area, which might have engaged the services of a highly-skilled stonemason for several years around 1842/3 ??? Douglas -- E-mail: [email protected] ----------------------- Osaka, Japan https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.burbury.net&d=DwIC-g &c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3a C85CaKBjxGjQdfF9YJ9UC-Lnr5TZ_1ZolojAAR9Qg&s=ApiP6AMe9ud37O4yReZMpaZ8uZFDW74U E7DR2kxAO1U&e= (Burbury family research website) _______________________________________________ AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin [email protected] _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3d-gm-0F3DEeI1wR0hTEnYPcSRKKoku9UiDZUY_7ZOU&s=KDpfBnT8xH4SLoaP98H8GTIpFjrCS89ayFN2yaG6BQ0&e= Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/aus-tasmania/ Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3d-gm-0F3DEeI1wR0hTEnYPcSRKKoku9UiDZUY_7ZOU&s=Lw0XZXkYs_iZekf0BA8MnCbY0EDPvYHv2zWnRGzwGFA&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3d-gm-0F3DEeI1wR0hTEnYPcSRKKoku9UiDZUY_7ZOU&s=hvIHTLtLRpdQmkw0ij4iBs1oFFJmLgNp2ET8Ye3vG9c&e= Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwICAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3d-gm-0F3DEeI1wR0hTEnYPcSRKKoku9UiDZUY_7ZOU&s=cv2MxSLp_yk7kytzCEiWenYAe-DampcLFK-Dx9ouLaU&e= RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Would like to thank the folk ho sent me some great stuff on the family which shall be followed up Elainw
Hi List, My query is about a place known as "Long Plains" in Northern Tasmania. Where was it in 1843? What was it in 1843? The words "Long Plains" are written at the top of an 1843 census return for Parish No. 8 in the West Tamar. (CEN 1/69/54) I have done some searching, and I have found a Long Plains Road that runs from the Frankford Highway to Bridgenorth, inland from Exeter. (I have also found references to a 1200-acre property called "Long Plain" near Deloraine which was for sale in 1840/1841, but that seems to be well out of the way, so I'm discounting it.) Assuming the Long Plains Road reference is somewhere near the mark, does anyone know of a building which currently or formerly existed in this area, which might have engaged the services of a highly-skilled stonemason for several years around 1842/3 ??? Douglas -- E-mail: [email protected] ----------------------- Osaka, Japan https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.burbury.net&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=i_LQs9DbVPyA1d4XXLxKbzvIFyFXVQXpPud-TuD7xxs&m=3aC85CaKBjxGjQdfF9YJ9UC-Lnr5TZ_1ZolojAAR9Qg&s=ApiP6AMe9ud37O4yReZMpaZ8uZFDW74UE7DR2kxAO1U&e= (Burbury family research website)