This is a general mailout to all of the lists that I administer. It seems to be that for whatever reason, some subscribers have taken to 'looping' their subscription address. This means that they are forwarding mail from their subscribed address to another one, then from that one to another, and so on. This 'looping' causes major problems and mail bounces all over the place, it means that for a busy list you are very likely to get unsubbed quite quickly. It also seems to be that some subscribers servers are detecting this 'looping' and Daemon is intercepting and rejecting some of their mail thinking that it is spam. There has also been a tendency of late of spammers to subscribe to a list under one address and 'looping' it back to several in an attempt to spam a list. This is NOT NICE. Any subscriber that I think is resorting to this technique will be placed on the reject list. I might point out here that the headers of emails identify the server as well as the addresses through which mail is 'looped'. As of today (16th August) any address that bounces messages back as a result of 'looping' will be automatically unsubscribed. Another thing that can cause a problem for the list is the 'spam filter' that some subscribers have taken to downloading off the net over the passed few months. The irony of this is that that same spam protector the 'spams' you address book which includes mailing lists... I have made the decision that any subscribed address that posts a message to the list notifying subscribers that they have a spam filter attached to their mailbox will be not be permitted to post messages to the list. May I make the suggestion that if some people wish to protect their privacy by 'looping' from one address to the other that you think about using a free web based mail address in preference to your own personal private address. This will also assist in reducing the amount of spam mail that you receive in that inbox. It is unfortunate that I now have to take this kind of action and it is one of several measures that I have had to take in the last few weeks to reduce the huge amount of bounced emails to my mailbox. Good luck with your research. Bright blessings Sandie List Administrator