Hi! I need some help with some info on convist papers I have been sitting on for 18 months or so, hoping that would one day this convict may be part of the family :-) I have a photocopy from a large register and the columns read, from left to right: Name (got that), Where Tried - C C Court with little squiggles after each C (anyone know?), Where Tried, Height, Age, Sentence, Religion, Read or Write, Married or Single, Children, Statement of Offence (all okay, except H of C for assault), Surgeons Report, Trade, Native Place...........then the Remarks.............first line is father James mother Mary then GB, second line is Wm James Robert at Wapping, then 1c (I think its a c) Susan at GP (or B) Thats the bit I'm stuck on - other entries have 2c or similar then a womans name............its probably an easy answer, but I'm out of guesses and would really like to know for sure. Anyone help? Lindel Kaikoura, NZ VENI, VIDI, VELCRO.....I came, I saw, I stuck around

What your looking at abbreviations, the first is an F for father, then M for mother, B brother(s), S sister(s). I was stuck on the same lines. They also abbreviated the names, William was Wm, Henry Hy, Samuel Saml etc. So you have the father and mother, four brother Willaim, James, Robert, and the last brothers name which your reading as Wapping. Then one sister. The C squiggle could be Co. Carlow which is whats on mine, or any of the other County's. The Tasmanian archives has a list of all the abbreviations that were used. Good luck Richard Boston, Massachusetts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:23 AM Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help needed with Remarks column on Convict Papers > Hi! I need some help with some info on convist papers I have been sitting on > for 18 months or so, hoping that would one day this convict may be part of > the family :-) > I have a photocopy from a large register and the columns read, from left to > right: > Name (got that), Where Tried - C C Court with little squiggles after each C > (anyone know?), Where Tried, Height, Age, Sentence, Religion, Read or Write, > Married or Single, Children, Statement of Offence (all okay, except H of C > for assault), Surgeons Report, Trade, Native Place...........then the > Remarks.............first line is father James mother Mary then GB, second > line is Wm James Robert at Wapping, then 1c (I think its a c) Susan at GP > (or B) > Thats the bit I'm stuck on - other entries have 2c or similar then a womans > name............its probably an easy answer, but I'm out of guesses and > would really like to know for sure. > Anyone help? > Lindel > Kaikoura, NZ > VENI, VIDI, VELCRO.....I came, I saw, I stuck around > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: > Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

At 08:23 PM 02/04/2002 +1200, you wrote: >Hi! I need some help with some info on convist papers I have been sitting on >for 18 months or so, hoping that would one day this convict may be part of >the family :-) >I have a photocopy from a large register and the columns read, from left to >right: >Name (got that), Where Tried - C C Court with little squiggles after each C Central Criminal Court, London - was also known as Old Bailey... >(anyone know?), Where Tried, Height, Age, Sentence, Religion, Read or Write, >Married or Single, Children, Statement of Offence (all okay, except H of C >for assault), Surgeons Report, Trade, Native Place...........then the >Remarks.............first line is father James mother Mary then GB, second >line is Wm James Robert at Wapping, then 1c (I think its a c) Susan at GP >(or B) >Thats the bit I'm stuck on - other entries have 2c or similar then a womans >name............its probably an easy answer, but I'm out of guesses and >would really like to know for sure. >Anyone help? >Lindel >Kaikoura, NZ >VENI, VIDI, VELCRO.....I came, I saw, I stuck around Pity you don't live in Tas - I take a class in reading convict records with Adult Ed.! goodluck, Maree >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian >Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Gday: I note you've already got a couple of responses, which I think are correct. In particular: CC Court is Central Criminal Court = Old Bailey, is in London. In my experience, you may have some luck if you look up The Times of London, which is available on microfilm in many large libraries. You might get some more detail of the crime &/or the trial. Hof C for assault means he has previously done time in the House of Correction for assault. Wm James Robert at Wapping confuses me: is your convict a female ? Could be her hubby, paramour etc. I suspect 1c Susan means "one child named Susan". I'd check if Susan married or died in Oz: female convicts were allowed to bring children with them on convict ships. One case, the prisoner brought 4 children, the eldest was 20 y.o. at the time. Not sure about GP or GB: could be "great Britain", that is, still back in the old country ? I have seen entries to say that a parent, sibling, spouse is in prison, or has already come to the colony. I saw one entry: "convicted with five others; two on board [the same ship]; three at home [in England]". Peter THOMAS Darwin, Australia <[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Lindel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 17:54 To: [email protected] Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help needed with Remarks column on Convict Papers Hi! I need some help with some info on convist papers I have been sitting on for 18 months or so, hoping that would one day this convict may be part of the family :-) I have a photocopy from a large register and the columns read, from left to right: Name (got that), Where Tried - C C Court with little squiggles after each C (anyone know?), Where Tried, Height, Age, Sentence, Religion, Read or Write, Married or Single, Children, Statement of Offence (all okay, except H of C for assault), Surgeons Report, Trade, Native Place...........then the Remarks.............first line is father James mother Mary then GB, second line is Wm James Robert at Wapping, then 1c (I think its a c) Susan at GP (or B) Thats the bit I'm stuck on - other entries have 2c or similar then a womans name............its probably an easy answer, but I'm out of guesses and would really like to know for sure. Anyone help? Lindel Kaikoura, NZ VENI, VIDI, VELCRO.....I came, I saw, I stuck around ______________________________