Hello Irene, Looking at our database we have some 44 people who arrived aboard the Glatton in 1803, and who ultimately ended up in Tasmania at some stage. I guess the most renown person arriving on the "Glatton" was John Bowen, this young man as I'm sure you know, led the establishment of settlement at Risdon Cove in November 1803, along with Jacob Mountgarrett who also arrived in the colonies aboard the "Glatton. Given that Bowen and Mountgarrett spent so many months at sea with the convicts aboard the "Glatton", a fair proportion of the people in Bowen's party would have arrived with him on that boat. Another notable person to arrive on the "Glatton" was Martha Hayes, mistress to John Bowen. Martha was not a convict, she accompanied her mother Mary who was. Mary Hayes remained in Sydney for nearly a year, setting up business as a mantua maker while Martha went to Tasmania with John Bowen in the later part of 1803. You mentioned 2 women who arrived on the "Glatton", Mary Bell aka Bills married James Harfield on the 7th March 1807, she appears in the 1811, 1814, 1818 and the 1819 Musters (I haven't checked further musters) with various spellings of Harfield. Susan Chapman "married" William Raynor Snr, she appears in musters using her maiden name of Chapman, it appears she had at least one child "on stores and 2 "off stores" according to the 1818 muster of children in Hobart. William Sumpton appears on the indent for the "Glatton" as William Sumpter, according to the 1819 Muster he was tried in Reading in 1801 and given a Life sentence. I think he may have worked as a sawyer while living in NSW. Unfortunately the Tasmanian Convict CD doesn't allow you to search for the principle ship to the colonies, only the secondary boat trans -shipping from Sydney to Tasmania - even then not everyone has been listed. If you would like a list of the 44 people who ended up in Tassie after arriving in NSW aboard the "Glatton" please let me know. Regards, Liz Penprase ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene Schaffer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] HMS Glatton > Good morning (and it is a good morning not a cloud in the sky or a sign of smoke) > > There has been some interest in the HMS Glatton lately. I believe some came to VDL. I searched the Tasmanian Convicts CD but only came up with 2. Mary Bell and Susan Chapman. However I had found sometime ago a William Sumpton (while looking for something else) His name did not come up on the convict list but when I entered his name it said he arrived on the Pilot in 1817. In the remarks column it had arrived per Glatton. How then do I find the others. > > I have heard that there is to be some celebration in March re her arrival in 1803 can anyone help with this. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated > > Irene Schaffer > Hobart >

Liz, At 12:17 PM 28/01/2003 +1100, Elizabeth Penprase wrote: >Looking at our database we have some 44 people who arrived aboard the >Glatton in 1803, and who ultimately ended up in Tasmania at some stage. >I guess the most renown person arriving on the "Glatton" was John Bowen, >this young man as I'm sure you know, led the establishment of settlement at >Risdon Cove in November 1803, along with Jacob Mountgarrett who also arrived >in the colonies aboard the "Glatton. I don't know anything about Jacob Mountgarrett, but he appears to have had a street in Launceston named after him recently (i.e. within the past four years or so). Coincidentally, just this morning I drove from Norwood to Evandale through the Richings Estate residential area, which I suppose is part of the suburb of Youngtown in Launceston. At one point I noticed a street leading off the main street called Mountgarrett Street (or maybe it was "Drive"). I thought at the time that it was a distinctive name. Synchronicitously yours, Douglas -- E-mail: [email protected] ------------------ Launceston, Tasmania http://www.vision.net.au/~dburbury/burbury.htm (Burbury family page) http://www.vision.net.au/~dburbury/yowies/ (Collectible checklist page) Listowner: BURBURY Mailing List (and a few more as well)

Thank you for all that information Elizabeth I am working on the Lady Nelson Bicentenary and will be giving small talks on her during September when we will taking passengers up and down the river. I have quite a lot on Marth Hayes but wanted to know a bit more about the Glatton soagain thank you very much. I would certainly like the list you offered. Thanking you again. > Hello Irene, > Looking at our database we have some 44 people who arrived aboard the > Glatton in 1803, and who ultimately ended up in Tasmania at some stage. > I guess the most renown person arriving on the "Glatton" was John Bowen, > this young man as I'm sure you know, led the establishment of settlement at > Risdon Cove in November 1803, along with Jacob Mountgarrett who also arrived > in the colonies aboard the "Glatton. Given that Bowen and Mountgarrett > spent so many months at sea with the convicts aboard the "Glatton", a fair > proportion of the people in Bowen's party would have arrived with him on > that boat. Another notable person to arrive on the "Glatton" was Martha > Hayes, mistress to John Bowen. Martha was not a convict, she accompanied > her mother Mary who was. Mary Hayes remained in Sydney for nearly a year, > setting up business as a mantua maker while Martha went to Tasmania with > John Bowen in the later part of 1803. > > You mentioned 2 women who arrived on the "Glatton", Mary Bell aka Bills > married James Harfield on the 7th March 1807, she appears in the 1811, > 1814, 1818 and the 1819 Musters (I haven't checked further musters) with > various spellings of Harfield. Susan Chapman "married" William Raynor Snr, > she appears in musters using her maiden name of Chapman, it appears she had > at least one child "on stores and 2 "off stores" according to the 1818 > muster of children in Hobart. > William Sumpton appears on the indent for the "Glatton" as William Sumpter, > according to the 1819 Muster he was tried in Reading in 1801 and given a > Life sentence. I think he may have worked as a sawyer while living in NSW. > Unfortunately the Tasmanian Convict CD doesn't allow you to search for the > principle ship to the colonies, only the secondary boat trans -shipping > from Sydney to Tasmania - even then not everyone has been listed. > If you would like a list of the 44 people who ended up in Tassie after > arriving in NSW aboard the "Glatton" please let me know. > Regards, > Liz Penprase > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Irene Schaffer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:19 AM > Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] HMS Glatton > > > > Good morning (and it is a good morning not a cloud in the sky or a sign of > smoke) > > > > There has been some interest in the HMS Glatton lately. I believe some > came to VDL. I searched the Tasmanian Convicts CD but only came up with 2. > Mary Bell and Susan Chapman. However I had found sometime ago a William > Sumpton (while looking for something else) His name did not come up on the > convict list but when I entered his name it said he arrived on the Pilot in > 1817. In the remarks column it had arrived per Glatton. How then do I find > the others. > > > > I have heard that there is to be some celebration in March re her arrival > in 1803 can anyone help with this. > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated > > > > Irene Schaffer > > Hobart > > > >