Thanks Jenny, don't feel so bad knowing you have a similar confusion. This thread is running on the Tas list but probably should be on the Tas Convict list. However I think a lot are on both lists. If the info on the Launceston records were done in 1834 I guess they were obtained from the so called Black Books. Strangely the earlier record for John Smith has the 100 lashes and 3 years to Newcastle on it and it's not on the later record! Perhaps there were clerical errors. To add to the discussion Ann Grant's records number 3 The third being one in 1840 under her married name of Griffiths Shirley in East Gippsland -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 30-11-2005