Hi all new to this list. Tracing Philip Levy transported on Surrey (2) 1829 to Tasmania. Was a shoemaker of Liverpool Street Hobart Town. May have been in business with William Henson, There were 2 Philip Levy's in the colony at the time, the one I am tracing is the one married to Leah Lazarus and father of Lewis, Asher, Isaac and Sarah. He was a member of the Hobart Synagogue in 1844. Although he married Leah I can not find reference to this. My Philip Levy moved to NZ with some of his family and died in 1865 in New Zealand as reported in "The Mercury" November 25th, 1865. Leah Lazarus arrived on the Boadicea in 1834 with her sister Julia. They were parasol makers from London. Any help would be appreciated.

Good afternoon list, My abovenamed ancestor with his wife arrived on the Westmoreland at Hobart in 1821 and on page 2 of the HOBART TOWN GAZETTE on Saturday, 5 May, 1821 under the heading 'HOBART TOWN - Ship News' the following was published: "This morning arrived from England the ship WESTMORELAND, Capt. Potton, with a cargo of British merchandize, and 41 passengers; viz.- Mrs Burn, Mr and Mrs Steel and family, Mr and Mrs Bifdee, Mr and Mrs Roberts, Mr W Alexander, Mrs T Buxton and family, Mr and Mrs Marlden, Mr and Mrs Weft and family [15], Mr Benj. Blackburn, Mr G Dixon, Mr N Dixon, Mr P Taylor, Mr and Mrs Willifon, Mr W Patterion, Mr Geo. Harper, Mr and Mrs Harper and family, and Mr R Dennalt, The WESTMORELAND left Portsmouth on the 14th Dec. and on her passage touched at the Cape of Good Hope, where she left 15 passengers, having brought out 56 from England." The ship remained only a few days and then sailed for Sydney arriving 31 May 1821. Charles James Roberts we believe joined the Commissariat shortly after and by mid 1820's was the Storekeeper at Dunwich in Moreton Bay. His wife Esther was the schoolteacher. They returned to Sydney in the early 1930's but in researching his movements whilst at Moreton Bay I was recently informed he was thought to be with the Commissariat in Tasmania shortly after his return to Sydney but was definitely back in Sydney mid 1830's as he was no longer with the Commissariat but was a Publican holding the license in respect of the Starr Inn in Parramatta. He was stricken with severe ill health about 1837, never to recover and died late in 1841. Esther continued with the Inn and held the license until the late 1840's and she died in December 1851. Two of their sons continued in the hospitality industry and for over 100 years owned the Crown and Anchor in the CBD of Sydney. I would appreciate advice on where I could obtain confirmation of their possible Commissariat stay in Tasmania. Rex Roberts, Waikanae, NZ.

The Westbury Faire went very well, I couldn't get away from my stall to see much but what I did see was well set up. It was good to catch up with old friends, and new ones from this list. Always nice to put a face to a name. The launch for the Exiles Three Times Over and Land Musters and Stock Lists went off ok. Goulds had their stand with lots of interestind CD and books. Their website is worth looking at, as is the Archives of Australian CD one. www.archivecdbooks.orig HTTP://www.goulds.com.au Going on holidays to Brisbane, Sydney and Cairns, see you all when I get back. Irene Email: schafferi@optusnet.com.au Website: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~schafferi (including Norfolk Island and Van Diemens Land list)

Dear Listers, My convict was sentenced as Elizabeth Armstrong, but later admitted her correct name was Charlotte Jones. Her name remained Armstrong until her sentence finished and then she started to use her correct name. Therefore, she was married as Armstrong and that's the name on the registration of the first two children. Later children's registration and her death certificate list her as Jones. Marg Watson. ----- Original Message ----- From: Melanie Steer <melanie@rpm.com.au> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: [TAS-CON] Re: Molloy/Kelly > Hi Shirley, > I also have a Tasmanian ancestor who changed his name from MARTIN to > GIFFORD. My understanding of name changes was that the person just started > using that name and transacting his day to day business and after awhile it > became his legal name. I don't know when it became compulsory to legally > change your name via Govt. documents. > > Good luck with your search. > > Melanie > Bowral NSW > > Looking for MARTIN, GLEESON, WILLIAMS and FARRELL. > >

Dear List Following is information on my next two Tasmanian convicts: Rosetta FARRELL was born between 1821 - 1824 in London. She had two brothers, William and Charles and a sister, Catherine. She worked as an actress at the Adelphi Theatre for a few years but her occupation is given as a House and Nurse Maid. She was tried at CCC for larceny - pledging from Mrs Reynolds at Islington and was sentenced to 7 years. She arrived per "Garland Grove" on 20 January 1843 and was given a 3rd Class pass in April 1844. In November 1844 she was absent without leave at Bennison (?) and sentenced to solitary confinment. She received her Ticket of Leave on 25 May 1845 and her Certificate of Freedom on 8 November 1855. David WILLIAMS was born in Denbigh, Wales around 1814. His occupation was given as Stone Mason and Quarryman and he was tried for Manslaughter at the Denbigh Assizes Quarter Session on 8 August 1836. Sentenced to 14 years he arrived in Tasmania per "Blenheim" on 21 July 1837 and assigned to the Loan Gang. He received his Ticket of Leave on 21 June 1844. David and Rosetta were given permission to marry on 22 March 1845 and the ceremony took place at St George's Church of England, Hobart on 22 April 1845. They had the following known children: David William born 31 August 1845; Francis Evan born 14 September 1847 and married to Mary MOLONY on 28 June 1869; Rosetta born 17 December 1849; Walter Charles Henry born 13 December 1856 who married Mary Ann ECCLES on 14 February 1878 and; Amy Amanda born 1 July 1861 who married James William Edward MARTIN on 18 November 1878. I believe David died on 29 May 1879 in High Street, Hobart and was buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find a death for Rosetta and think she may have travelled to the mainland with one of her children. I would be happy to hear from anyone with information on any of the above people. Regards, Melanie Bowral NSW

Hello Shirley Shirley Kelly wrote: > Hello List, > I'm a new subscriber researching John Molloy - convict arrived > Tasmania 1850. Granted ticket of leave May 1852 in Launceston. > Then changed name to John Kelly. Married Bridget Lee also convict in > 1852/1853. John KELLY = Bridget LEE are my great great grandparents. John KELLY was a tailor, they moved from Tasmania to Opotiki in New Zealand ... "Reg.No.613; rank Private, enrolled at Melbourne on 7 September 1863, travelled to New Zealand on 'Caduceus'. Age at time of enlistment 29; height 5'6 1/2" He had been born in Dublin, and his occupation before enlistment was Tailor." John died by drowning on 23 Aug 1867. Bridget was born .. "1833 Jun-29, baptism:Ogonnelloe Parish, Nth of Killaloe, East Clare " died .. 1916 Sep-24, Opotiki > Was name change done legally? How do I find out? I am not aware of John having a name change; possibly why I have never been able to confirm his origin. > Also death of Ann Maloy (Molloy) born Tasmania 1853 and died before > 1863. I have a Mary MOLLOY b.1864, Melbourne, married John KELLY, John & Bridget's son, d.Opotiki 5 Mar 1938. > Any help greatly appreciated. Could be we are looking at the same people? > Thank you > Shirley Regards - Terry Hollis PO Box 57061, Owairaka, Auckland, 1030, New Zealand email: terry.hollis@xtra.co.nz ph: +64-9-627 9746, mob: +64-21-627 971, fax: +64-9-626 5199

Hi Shirley, I also have a Tasmanian ancestor who changed his name from MARTIN to GIFFORD. My understanding of name changes was that the person just started using that name and transacting his day to day business and after awhile it became his legal name. I don't know when it became compulsory to legally change your name via Govt. documents. Good luck with your search. Melanie Bowral NSW Looking for MARTIN, GLEESON, WILLIAMS and FARRELL. On 19/8/05 11:19 PM, "Shirley Kelly" <shirleykelly@clear.net.nz> wrote: > Hello List, > I'm a new subscriber researching John Molloy - convict arrived Tasmania 1850. > Granted ticket of leave May 1852 in Launceston. Then changed name to John > Kelly. Married Bridget Lee also convict in 1852/1853. > Was name change done legally? How do I find out? > Also death of Ann Maloy (Molloy) born Tasmania 1853 and died before 1863. > Any help greatly appreciated. > Thank you > Shirley

Cheers for now and have a nice day Alice

Hello Shirley Welcome to our list. I hope we can help you. It is highly unlikely that John Molloy changed his name legally and that there would be an official record of it. The best you could hope for would be a record which states John Molloy alias Kelly or vice versa. What ship did your Bridget Lee arrive on? There were three Bridget Lee's who arrived in VDL as convicts. I may be able to provide more information depending on her ship. Could this be your Ann Molloy? Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899 Query ----- Surname : m*l*y (1746 matches) Given Names : ann* (25778 matches) Event : d (102842 matches) Total matching records: 38 -------------------- Surname: MALOY Given Names: ANN Event: Death Father/Spouse Surname: Mother/Spouse Given Names: BRIDGET Day: 09 Month: 3 Year: 1854 Age: 11 Sex: F Spouse Age: Spouse Sex: Registration Place: LAUNCESTON Registration Number: 1266/1854 Reference: RGD 35 Regards Trudy Dr Trudy Cowley List Administrator TAS Convicts Rootsweb List tcowley@bigpond.net.au AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Kelly [mailto:shirleykelly@clear.net.nz] Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 11:19 PM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] Molloy/Kelly Hello List, I'm a new subscriber researching John Molloy - convict arrived Tasmania 1850. Granted ticket of leave May 1852 in Launceston. Then changed name to John Kelly. Married Bridget Lee also convict in 1852/1853. Was name change done legally? How do I find out? Also death of Ann Maloy (Molloy) born Tasmania 1853 and died before 1863. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you Shirley ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'L mode' send an empty email with ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body text to AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

----- Original Message ----- From: "Trudy Cowley" <tcowley@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [TAS-CON] Molloy/Kelly > Hello Shirley > > Welcome to our list. I hope we can help you. > > It is highly unlikely that John Molloy changed his name legally and that > there would be an official record of it. The best you could hope for would > be a record which states John Molloy alias Kelly or vice versa. > > What ship did your Bridget Lee arrive on? There were three Bridget Lee's > who arrived in VDL as convicts. I may be able to provide more information > depending on her ship. > > Could this be your Ann Molloy? > > Digger - Tasmanian Pioneer Index 1803-1899 > > > Query > ----- > Surname : m*l*y (1746 matches) > Given Names : ann* (25778 matches) > Event : d (102842 matches) > > Total matching records: 38 > -------------------- > > Surname: MALOY > Given Names: ANN > Event: Death > Father/Spouse Surname: > Mother/Spouse Given Names: BRIDGET > Day: 09 > Month: 3 > Year: 1854 > Age: 11 > Sex: F > Spouse Age: > Spouse Sex: > Registration Place: LAUNCESTON > Registration Number: 1266/1854 > Reference: RGD 35 > > Regards > Trudy > > Dr Trudy Cowley > List Administrator > TAS Convicts Rootsweb List > tcowley@bigpond.net.au > AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shirley Kelly [mailto:shirleykelly@clear.net.nz] > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2005 11:19 PM > To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TAS-CON] Molloy/Kelly > > Hello List, > I'm a new subscriber researching John Molloy - convict arrived Tasmania > 1850. Granted ticket of leave May 1852 in Launceston. Then changed name to > John Kelly. Married Bridget Lee also convict in 1852/1853. > Was name change done legally? How do I find out? > Also death of Ann Maloy (Molloy) born Tasmania 1853 and died before 1863. > Any help greatly appreciated. > Thank you > Shirley > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'L mode' send an empty email with ONLY the word > UNSUBSCRIBE in the body text to AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Visit Jenny Fawcett's Tasmanian Convicts website at > http://www.genseek.net/constas.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello List, I'm a new subscriber researching John Molloy - convict arrived Tasmania 1850. Granted ticket of leave May 1852 in Launceston. Then changed name to John Kelly. Married Bridget Lee also convict in 1852/1853. Was name change done legally? How do I find out? Also death of Ann Maloy (Molloy) born Tasmania 1853 and died before 1863. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you Shirley

Melaine Not a researcher but hope this helps Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Query ----- Father : MARTIN john (625 matches) Mother : m* (509753 matches) Total matching records: 245 -------------------- Surname: MARTIN Given Names: Jno Father: Martin Jno Mother: Mary Ann GLEESON Death Place: MELB E Age: 62 Age Code: Year: 1924 Reg Number: 11058 Event: D -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Steer [mailto:melanie@rpm.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 9:35 PM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: John MARTIN and Mary Ann GLEESON Dear List, I am new to this list and thought I would mention my first two Tasmanian convicts. John MARTIN was born in Dublin, Ireland around 1821/22 to Jane, and transported to VDL per "Elizabeth & Henry" arriving on 9 June 1845. He had been found guilty of stealing a carpet bag for L1.15p from Mr Tallen at Upper Ormond Quay. He was a protestant shoemaker who was able to read and write. Mary Ann GLEESON was born in Bandon, Co. Cork between 1823 and 1827 and transported to VDL per "Kinnear" arriving on 7 October 1848. She was tried for stealing a gown in Cork City, Co. Cork. She was originally paroled to HMS Anson and by January 1850 was at the Brickfields Depot. She was a RC housemaid who was unable to sign her name. On 18 March 1850 John and Mary Ann were given permission to marry and the ceremony was performed on 8 April 1850 at St Joseph's Catholic Church, Hobart by W. Hall. They had the following known children: Mary Anne born 9 February 1854 in Hobart, John born 26 February 1856 in Pontville and James born 22 February 1858 in Hobart. I believe that Mary Ann died on 10 May 1881 and John on 22 June 1891. They were both buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery. If there are any other researchers of this couple I would love to hear from you. Equally, anyone with any further information would be warmly welcomed. Cheers, Melanie Bowral NSW ______________________________

Hi List, Just found this website and thought it may be of interest to some on the list. Dictionary of Australian Biography http://gutenberg.net.au/dictbiog/00-dict-biogIndex.html regards Kerry

Dear List, I am new to this list and thought I would mention my first two Tasmanian convicts. John MARTIN was born in Dublin, Ireland around 1821/22 to Jane, and transported to VDL per "Elizabeth & Henry" arriving on 9 June 1845. He had been found guilty of stealing a carpet bag for L1.15p from Mr Tallen at Upper Ormond Quay. He was a protestant shoemaker who was able to read and write. Mary Ann GLEESON was born in Bandon, Co. Cork between 1823 and 1827 and transported to VDL per "Kinnear" arriving on 7 October 1848. She was tried for stealing a gown in Cork City, Co. Cork. She was originally paroled to HMS Anson and by January 1850 was at the Brickfields Depot. She was a RC housemaid who was unable to sign her name. On 18 March 1850 John and Mary Ann were given permission to marry and the ceremony was performed on 8 April 1850 at St Joseph's Catholic Church, Hobart by W. Hall. They had the following known children: Mary Anne born 9 February 1854 in Hobart, John born 26 February 1856 in Pontville and James born 22 February 1858 in Hobart. I believe that Mary Ann died on 10 May 1881 and John on 22 June 1891. They were both buried at Cornelian Bay Cemetery. If there are any other researchers of this couple I would love to hear from you. Equally, anyone with any further information would be warmly welcomed. Cheers, Melanie Bowral NSW

Thanks to Maree and Trudy for their suggestions John Hosie Melbourne

Dear John, You might like to try http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/convicts/conabbrev.html Goodluck, Maree At 04:27 PM 10/08/2005, you wrote: >Hi List >Have been enjoy this list although not participating too much. Would like >to ask a question. Having just obtained a convict record from Tassie >Archives, I need a few interpretations of abbreviations. I have Brief >Guide No 20 but.... Refers to Mary Jones Tried Lancaster 27 August 1849. >Arr. 4 Oct 1850. Proper name Eliza Hoy. RC R&W > >Transported for "Stealing from the person after previous >conviction good Report twice convicted Single stated this offence. >Stealing 2 pounds 3 shillings Pro Ladwich,.3 the or He or Hd months money >Sing Sur Report very good but idle" > >Period of Gang Probation, Station & Class all crossed out. "Services. >JanY 30/52 Factry 31/1/52 Hospey 3/4/52 Iac Ln 19/4/52 In all Monigham Ln >23/4/52 H of C Ln 29/4/52 Owen McCarthy Ln." > >Offences & Sentences "Augt 16/50 (B.F.) Abent 3 Mths hard labour >(ABJ) Appd 15/8/50FactHobart April 24/52 (Monehon) absent without leave - >2 mth hd labor WG appd 30/4/52 Augt 30/53 Marriage with Thomas Callow Appd >T of C 9/5/54 >CN 10/54 Reason for a CP Fctyu 22/55/ T.L. Westy/ Drunk passed 1 pound (JPJ) >Augt 28/55 C Pardon appd" >I know somebody on the list must have seen lots of CON41's >Regards >John Hosie >Melbourne > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Visit the Campbell Town Convict Trail website at >http://www.convictbricktrail.com/ > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hello John It is difficult to give a correct transcription of the records without seeing the original. You may wish to avail yourself of the transcription service offered by the Female Factory Research Group (see http://www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG/service.htm) for a full transcription. Alternatively you may wish to obtain a copy of Susan Hood's book 'Transcribing Convict Records' - this should be available at your local library. This will help you decipher the abbreviations, etc. Regards Trudy Dr Trudy Cowley List Administrator TAS Convicts Rootsweb List tcowley@bigpond.net.au AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: John Hosie [mailto:john_hosie@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 4:28 PM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] Convict Records Hi List Have been enjoy this list although not participating too much. Would like to ask a question. Having just obtained a convict record from Tassie Archives, I need a few interpretations of abbreviations. I have Brief Guide No 20 but.... Refers to Mary Jones Tried Lancaster 27 August 1849. Arr. 4 Oct 1850. Proper name Eliza Hoy. RC R&W Transported for "Stealing from the person after previous conviction good Report twice convicted Single stated this offence. Stealing 2 pounds 3 shillings Pro Ladwich,.3 the or He or Hd months money Sing Sur Report very good but idle" Period of Gang Probation, Station & Class all crossed out. "Services. JanY 30/52 Factry 31/1/52 Hospey 3/4/52 Iac Ln 19/4/52 In all Monigham Ln 23/4/52 H of C Ln 29/4/52 Owen McCarthy Ln." Offences & Sentences "Augt 16/50 (B.F.) Abent 3 Mths hard labour (ABJ) Appd 15/8/50FactHobart April 24/52 (Monehon) absent without leave - 2 mth hd labor WG appd 30/4/52 Augt 30/53 Marriage with Thomas Callow Appd T of C 9/5/54 CN 10/54 Reason for a CP Fctyu 22/55/ T.L. Westy/ Drunk passed 1 pound (JPJ) Augt 28/55 C Pardon appd" I know somebody on the list must have seen lots of CON41's Regards John Hosie Melbourne ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Visit the Campbell Town Convict Trail website at http://www.convictbricktrail.com/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi List Have been enjoy this list although not participating too much. Would like to ask a question. Having just obtained a convict record from Tassie Archives, I need a few interpretations of abbreviations. I have Brief Guide No 20 but.... Refers to Mary Jones Tried Lancaster 27 August 1849. Arr. 4 Oct 1850. Proper name Eliza Hoy. RC R&W Transported for "Stealing from the person after previous conviction good Report twice convicted Single stated this offence. Stealing 2 pounds 3 shillings Pro Ladwich,.3 the or He or Hd months money Sing Sur Report very good but idle" Period of Gang Probation, Station & Class all crossed out. "Services. JanY 30/52 Factry 31/1/52 Hospey 3/4/52 Iac Ln 19/4/52 In all Monigham Ln 23/4/52 H of C Ln 29/4/52 Owen McCarthy Ln." Offences & Sentences "Augt 16/50 (B.F.) Abent 3 Mths hard labour (ABJ) Appd 15/8/50FactHobart April 24/52 (Monehon) absent without leave - 2 mth hd labor WG appd 30/4/52 Augt 30/53 Marriage with Thomas Callow Appd T of C 9/5/54 CN 10/54 Reason for a CP Fctyu 22/55/ T.L. Westy/ Drunk passed 1 pound (JPJ) Augt 28/55 C Pardon appd" I know somebody on the list must have seen lots of CON41's Regards John Hosie Melbourne

Good morning Phil If you go to http://resources.archives.tas.gov.au/archmarriage/default.asp and type in PICKEN you will see a permission to marry entry for him. Sorry I can't help you any further. Regards Trudy Dr Trudy Cowley List Administrator TAS Convicts Rootsweb List tcowley@bigpond.net.au AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: pbtree@optusnet.com.au [mailto:pbtree@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 9:28 AM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] Re: PICKEN > pbtree@optusnet.com.au wrote: > > > Good morning, > > looking for information on Edwin(Edward) PICKEN, a > convict on the Agincourt in 1844. > > Other than some conjecture, this is all I have at the mo. I > don't even know why he was sent out. > > rgds > > Phil Butler..... > sunny qld..... ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Visit the Campbell Town Convict Trail website at http://www.convictbricktrail.com/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

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