Hello All You are great - thank you very much everyone for your support for Saturday. So many of you have taken the time to email me and wish me luck - I wanted to thank you all publicly. As Diane Philips commented: The ABC is now making some programs available for download to an IPod or computer [podcasting]. If they did this for your show everyone on the list would be able to access the show. The listers all have computers. Here's hoping the show continues and this happens - you could even get it in Scotland, then, Rosemary. Cheers Trudy PS Please keep any comments about podcasting, etc off-list. Dr Trudy Cowley

Good Luck Trudy. I am sure you will be a hit. Wish we could hear you but live in Qld Meg Trudy Cowley wrote: > Hello All > > > > On Saturday morning (11 Feb) from 9:30 to 10am on ABC local radio (936 AM) > on Chris Wisby's show, I will be taking the first talkback session on > convict and family history in Tasmania. Hopefully I will be able to answer > most of the questions people ring in with (Malcolm your notes on Meryl's > site will be recommended). If it goes well it may become a regular spot. > > > > You may like to notify genie friends who do not have access to a computer or > the internet and so this helpful list. > > > > Obviously, ABC radio has recognised that researching our ancestry is a > passion for many Tasmanians. > > > > Wish me luck. > > > > Regards > > Trudy

Good on you Trudy. Do hope it goes National+ Shirley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - Release Date: 08-02-2006

Good Luck Trudy, I am sure you will do it well. Wish I could here it here in New Zealand kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trudy Cowley" <tcowley@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: [TAS-CON] Talkback on ABC local radio Saturday morning > Hello All > > > > On Saturday morning (11 Feb) from 9:30 to 10am on ABC local radio (936 AM) > on Chris Wisby's show, I will be taking the first talkback session on > convict and family history in Tasmania. Hopefully I will be able to > answer > most of the questions people ring in with (Malcolm your notes on Meryl's > site will be recommended). If it goes well it may become a regular spot. > > > > You may like to notify genie friends who do not have access to a computer > or > the internet and so this helpful list. > > > > Obviously, ABC radio has recognised that researching our ancestry is a > passion for many Tasmanians. > > > > Wish me luck. > > > > Regards > > Trudy > > > > Dr Trudy Cowley > > on behalf of the Female Factory Research Group > > <mailto:ffrg@femalefactory.com.au> ffrg@femalefactory.com.au > > www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG > > > > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Visit the Port Arthur Historic Site website at > http://www.portarthur.org.au/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hello Trudy, Great news about your spot on the ABC on Saturday. Congratulations This is very exciting............. I know that you will be a huge hit! Cheers, Ellen

Hello All On Saturday morning (11 Feb) from 9:30 to 10am on ABC local radio (936 AM) on Chris Wisby's show, I will be taking the first talkback session on convict and family history in Tasmania. Hopefully I will be able to answer most of the questions people ring in with (Malcolm your notes on Meryl's site will be recommended). If it goes well it may become a regular spot. You may like to notify genie friends who do not have access to a computer or the internet and so this helpful list. Obviously, ABC radio has recognised that researching our ancestry is a passion for many Tasmanians. Wish me luck. Regards Trudy Dr Trudy Cowley on behalf of the Female Factory Research Group <mailto:ffrg@femalefactory.com.au> ffrg@femalefactory.com.au www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG

Good luck on Saturday Trudy. June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trudy Cowley" <tcowley@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: [TAS-CON] Talkback on ABC local radio Saturday morning > Hello All > > > > On Saturday morning (11 Feb) from 9:30 to 10am on ABC local radio (936 AM) > on Chris Wisby's show, I will be taking the first talkback session on > convict and family history in Tasmania. Hopefully I will be able to answer > most of the questions people ring in with (Malcolm your notes on Meryl's > site will be recommended). If it goes well it may become a regular spot. > > > > You may like to notify genie friends who do not have access to a computer or > the internet and so this helpful list. > > > > Obviously, ABC radio has recognised that researching our ancestry is a > passion for many Tasmanians. > > > > Wish me luck. > > > > Regards > > Trudy > > > > Dr Trudy Cowley > > on behalf of the Female Factory Research Group > > <mailto:ffrg@femalefactory.com.au> ffrg@femalefactory.com.au > > www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG > > > > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Visit the Port Arthur Historic Site website at > http://www.portarthur.org.au/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - Release Date: 8/02/2006 > > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1124 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Hi Trudy Good luck, Trudy from Scotland as well. Iam sure it will be excellent. I would love to be able to hear it ! Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy McKegg" <kmckegg@clear.net.nz> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [TAS-CON] Talkback on ABC local radio Saturday morning > Good Luck Trudy, I am sure you will do it well. Wish I could here it here > in New Zealand > > kathy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trudy Cowley" <tcowley@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: [TAS-CON] Talkback on ABC local radio Saturday morning > > >> Hello All >> >> >> >> On Saturday morning (11 Feb) from 9:30 to 10am on ABC local radio (936 >> AM) >> on Chris Wisby's show, I will be taking the first talkback session on >> convict and family history in Tasmania. Hopefully I will be able to >> answer >> most of the questions people ring in with (Malcolm your notes on Meryl's >> site will be recommended). If it goes well it may become a regular spot. >> >> >> >> You may like to notify genie friends who do not have access to a computer >> or >> the internet and so this helpful list. >> >> >> >> Obviously, ABC radio has recognised that researching our ancestry is a >> passion for many Tasmanians. >> >> >> >> Wish me luck. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Trudy >> >> >> >> Dr Trudy Cowley >> >> on behalf of the Female Factory Research Group >> >> <mailto:ffrg@femalefactory.com.au> ffrg@femalefactory.com.au >> >> www.femalefactory.com.au/FFRG >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Port Arthur Historic Site website at >> http://www.portarthur.org.au/ >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > If you require assistance using this list, try the www.rootsweb.com 'HELP' > page. It may have the answer to your question. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

And index to Insolvency Notices in Launceston papers for the year 1847 has been added online The index includes Insolvents, Creditors, Assignees and Solicitors mentioned in the advertisements http://www.genseek.net/tasin47.htm cheers Jenny Fawcett

Hi Trudy Thank you very much indeed. I shall look into trying to get hold of a copy of Ian Brand's book - perhaps through Inter Library Loan which is a great service. Pleased to hear Henry was probably was not in chains in his road party! Regards Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trudy Cowley" <tcowley@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [TAS-CON] SMART > Hello Rosemary > > I am glad that you have found some interesting information about your > ancestor. There is a little information about Snake Banks road party > probation station in Ian Brand's book 'The Convict Probation System' on > pp.142-143. This may be available in your local library. It states that > the building was designed to house 1 overseer and 20 men and was used > between c1836 and 1839. Snake Banks is south of Launceston on the main > highway between Launceston and Hobart. > > If Henry's conduct record did not say he was to do hard labour in chains, > then he was probably not in chains - that was an extra punishment for > those > who 'misbehaved'. > > Regards > Trudy > > Dr Trudy Cowley > List Administrator > TAS Convicts Rootsweb List > tcowley@bigpond.net.au > AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Mather [mailto:mather@laburnum44.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 10:29 PM > To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TAS-CON] SMART > > Hi Trudy, Meryl and List > > I have followed up suggestions from the list and have now received the > info, from Archives, relating to Henry Smart - Index No 70718. It makes > absolutely fascinating reading and one can't but feel a pang of sympathy > for > the life led. > I was wondering if it would be possible to know anything about a Mr > William > Harvey of Bothwell to whom Henry, Police Number 1449 was assigned on Con > 27/5. Presumably that is where he was first sent? He was also 2 months > probation in a road party at Snake Banks. Does anyone know any thing > about > Snake Banks please? Is Henry likely to have been in chains- no mention of > this. It is a horrible thought! The year is 1837. > Regards > Rosemary > > > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'D mode' send an empty email with ONLY the word > UNSUBSCRIBE in the body text to AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Visit the Port Arthur Historic Site website at > http://www.portarthur.org.au/ > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Hello Rosemary I am glad that you have found some interesting information about your ancestor. There is a little information about Snake Banks road party probation station in Ian Brand's book 'The Convict Probation System' on pp.142-143. This may be available in your local library. It states that the building was designed to house 1 overseer and 20 men and was used between c1836 and 1839. Snake Banks is south of Launceston on the main highway between Launceston and Hobart. If Henry's conduct record did not say he was to do hard labour in chains, then he was probably not in chains - that was an extra punishment for those who 'misbehaved'. Regards Trudy Dr Trudy Cowley List Administrator TAS Convicts Rootsweb List tcowley@bigpond.net.au AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Mather [mailto:mather@laburnum44.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 10:29 PM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] SMART Hi Trudy, Meryl and List I have followed up suggestions from the list and have now received the info, from Archives, relating to Henry Smart - Index No 70718. It makes absolutely fascinating reading and one can't but feel a pang of sympathy for the life led. I was wondering if it would be possible to know anything about a Mr William Harvey of Bothwell to whom Henry, Police Number 1449 was assigned on Con 27/5. Presumably that is where he was first sent? He was also 2 months probation in a road party at Snake Banks. Does anyone know any thing about Snake Banks please? Is Henry likely to have been in chains- no mention of this. It is a horrible thought! The year is 1837. Regards Rosemary ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from the 'D mode' send an empty email with ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body text to AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Dear Lists, From the response I received about having a special day for the descendants of the Lady Juliana on the Lady Nelson in 2008, I will certainly put one day aside. So please if any descendant has a small history on their Lady Juliana convict could they please let me have it. I will try and have something in book form for the day. To date I have been sent three and I already have some I have previously done. Thank you all again for your interest. Irene Email: schafferi@optusnet.com.au Website: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~schafferi (including Norfolk Island and Van Diemens Land list)

My understanding of the programme from my relative, Judy, was that they wanted to find women who were descendants from the woman on the Lady Juliana and then follow them to see what they had made of their lives. They followed Judy's daughter for a few months, she lives in rural NSW, filming her going about her business and life. Judy has seen an advance copy of the programme which has also been screened in America under the title "The Voyage of the Courtesans". Judy said that she was told it would be shown "soon". I suppose we will have to hold our judgement until we have actually seen it. Melanie Bowral NSW -----Original Message----- From: Anne Hanson [mailto:ahanson8@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 8:01 AM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [TAS-CON] RE: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" Hi Melanie, Do you know just when the doco will be shown on ABC tv? Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Steer [mailto:melanie@rpm.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 7:55 AM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] RE: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" This is a documentary that will be shown on ABC TV here in Australia. A relative of mine is a descendant of one of the women and her daughter appears in it. Though it does seem to have a touch of the whimsical about it if the promo is anything to go by. I look forward to seeing it. Melanie Bowral NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Watts" <ng@ctwatts.plus.com> To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" > Those who can access it may be interested in the Timewatch programme on the > Lady Juliana "The Floating Brothel" > Fri 3 February, 9pm, BBC TWO in the UK. > > More details and a clip at : > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/timewatch/ > > > Chris Watts in the UK > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list - that way we all benefit from > the discussion. > Private, or personal, messages should begin the Subject line with [NEWS] to > ensure that they pass my spam trap. > > > > ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENANZ > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Visit the Female Factory Historic Site website at http://www.femalefactory.com.au/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 3/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 3/02/2006 ______________________________

Dear Jim and lists, I think you maybe right Jim, which will be a shame. One of my fellow researches here in Hobart was approached when it was first thought to do a film, but after much to and fro and with lots of information sent by her to them she heard no more. She was very surprised to get my email that it had been completed. The Synopsis was sent from England to Cape Town and then to me. Maybe I will have to think up something to do from here in Hobart where 60 of the Lady Juliana's women lived out their lives. Many of them arrived on the Lady Nelson and the other ships from Norfolk Island, and as I have access to the Lady Nelson to do excursions in the River Derwent during 2007-8 to celebrate the arrivals, I could make a special day for them. If anyone reading this would be interested in taking part please email me off line. Only last week the Lady Nelson was used by the Female Factory to re-enact the convict women off the Harmony, it was a great success. It is not a sudden interest Jim as I have been in contact with many of the descendants of these women for years, many of them I see and work with every week here in Hobart. Maybe I will have to think of writing profiles on them all, have quite a few already. Irene Email: schafferi@optusnet.com.au Website: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~schafferi (including Norfolk Island and Van Diemens Land list) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Halsey" <jehalsey@gmail.com> To: <AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [TAS-CON] Fw: The Lady Juliana > Hello list, > > I am not sure why there is this sudden interest in the subject, other > the assumpion that if it has been made ino a TV programme then it must > be better than anything you can read on the subject ! If you read > Irene Schaffer's synopsis you have it all !! As far as the programme > goes that is !! I suspect that books on the subject may well be more > informative and interesting, but they run on a bit longer than Irene's > note, and they may of course be short of imaginative visual > re-creations ! The visual extras are a few mock-up scenes of 17th c > London and lots of young women in raggety period costumes, plus a few > shots of a sailing ship on a calm sea. As for winds and waves, what > are they ? Not a single passenger seems to have been sea-sick on the > entire journey !! The rest is an imaginary Australia of the time (or > later) with which most listers will be more than familiar. > > So don't press for its showing in Australia, you could just be disappointed !! > > But, for all that, enjoy the prospect, which, more often than not in > this life is better than the reality !! > > From your least favourite English spoil-sport, Jim Halsey, within > the range, may the good Lord help me, of BBC transmitters. > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Visit Jenny Fawcett's Tasmanian Convicts website at > http://www.genseek.net/constas.htm > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Trudy, Meryl and List I have followed up suggestions from the list and have now received the info, from Archives, relating to Henry Smart - Index No 70718. It makes absolutely fascinating reading and one can't but feel a pang of sympathy for the life led. I was wondering if it would be possible to know anything about a Mr William Harvey of Bothwell to whom Henry, Police Number 1449 was assigned on Con 27/5. Presumably that is where he was first sent? He was also 2 months probation in a road party at Snake Banks. Does anyone know any thing about Snake Banks please? Is Henry likely to have been in chains- no mention of this. It is a horrible thought! The year is 1837. Regards Rosemary

Thought this was interesting enought to repost. "The Lady Juliana" _______________ You asked me to see could I view the programe on the television. I did so last night. It was on BBC 2 and entitled: "The Floating Brothel". It profiled London in 1798, with re-enactments of scenes of petty thievery and prostitution on the part of women in the poorer quarters of London. It then profiled a few in other parts of England, Devon among them. The age profile was for the most part young girls and women in their twenties. They specifically followed the lot of about four women and one girl. The prisons became overfilled in England and the authorities became concerned primarily about an outbreak of disease in the prison population which could then spread to the city as a whole. Co-inciding with this discussion among the powers that be, a letter arrived from Australia where at that time were just a handful of men and a garrison. They needed seeds for planting, implements and so on to establish any kind of habitable living but they also required women for the men. The authorities regarded this as the answer - ship all the women in Newgate Prison who were in for life imprisonment or condemned to death to Australia and so get rid of them and lessen the number in the prison. The ship "The Lady Juliana" was thus designated for this purpose. Over five months it was berthed and gradually filled up with women prisoners, all living down in the part of the boat just above the bilges. After five months it was ready to leave and set sail. Once out at sea the women were allowed above on deck and gradually their pallors improved. These women were given preferential treatment, a ship's surgeon was on board to see they kept well, they were fed very well and generally gotten ready to be ready for the men awaiting them in Australia. On the boat all the crew including the surgeon took a woman as temporary wife and over the duration of the voyage seven children, I think was the figure, were born at sea. En route they docked at various places and men living in these remote outposts were allowed board the boat and have relations with the women for a fee - the rates being organised by one woman aboard who was mature, better bred and a business woman who was being transported for high class thievery. Thus each woman had a little money of her own. Upon reaching Australia these women were in good shape - just one woman had died on the journey, a Scottish woman who never really got up off her palet from the start of the five months awaiting departure from England. Once in Australia the women and men sorted themselves out and thus was the colony of Australia established, once the women starting having children and establishing homes. The more senior woman was the only one who did not remain in Australia, for she worked her sentence and then returned to England. Subsequent boats that brought women to Australia were not the like of the "Lady Juliana" at all. They were convict ships and the women were not let out to air, were not well fed and so on and there were many more deaths from among these transportees on board. "The Lady Juliana" was a once off. So Australia was surely founded on women who had been convicted of petty crimes and prostitution in England, some had had children from the crew or the men at places at which they called on the way to Australia and the rest then had their first children to the original men settled in Australia. This is the synopsis of the programme for you. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 2006/02/03

Hi Melanie, Do you know just when the doco will be shown on ABC tv? Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Melanie Steer [mailto:melanie@rpm.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 5 February 2006 7:55 AM To: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TAS-CON] RE: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" This is a documentary that will be shown on ABC TV here in Australia. A relative of mine is a descendant of one of the women and her daughter appears in it. Though it does seem to have a touch of the whimsical about it if the promo is anything to go by. I look forward to seeing it. Melanie Bowral NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Watts" <ng@ctwatts.plus.com> To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" > Those who can access it may be interested in the Timewatch programme on the > Lady Juliana "The Floating Brothel" > Fri 3 February, 9pm, BBC TWO in the UK. > > More details and a clip at : > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/timewatch/ > > > Chris Watts in the UK > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list - that way we all benefit from > the discussion. > Private, or personal, messages should begin the Subject line with [NEWS] to > ensure that they pass my spam trap. > > > > ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENANZ > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Visit the Female Factory Historic Site website at http://www.femalefactory.com.au/ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 3/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 3/02/2006

This is a documentary that will be shown on ABC TV here in Australia. A relative of mine is a descendant of one of the women and her daughter appears in it. Though it does seem to have a touch of the whimsical about it if the promo is anything to go by. I look forward to seeing it. Melanie Bowral NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Watts" <ng@ctwatts.plus.com> To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" > Those who can access it may be interested in the Timewatch programme on the > Lady Juliana "The Floating Brothel" > Fri 3 February, 9pm, BBC TWO in the UK. > > More details and a clip at : > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/timewatch/ > > > Chris Watts in the UK > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list - that way we all benefit from > the discussion. > Private, or personal, messages should begin the Subject line with [NEWS] to > ensure that they pass my spam trap. > > > > ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENANZ > >

Hello list, I am not sure why there is this sudden interest in the subject, other the assumpion that if it has been made ino a TV programme then it must be better than anything you can read on the subject ! If you read Irene Schaffer's synopsis you have it all !! As far as the programme goes that is !! I suspect that books on the subject may well be more informative and interesting, but they run on a bit longer than Irene's note, and they may of course be short of imaginative visual re-creations ! The visual extras are a few mock-up scenes of 17th c London and lots of young women in raggety period costumes, plus a few shots of a sailing ship on a calm sea. As for winds and waves, what are they ? Not a single passenger seems to have been sea-sick on the entire journey !! The rest is an imaginary Australia of the time (or later) with which most listers will be more than familiar. So don't press for its showing in Australia, you could just be disappointed !! But, for all that, enjoy the prospect, which, more often than not in this life is better than the reality !! From your least favourite English spoil-sport, Jim Halsey, within the range, may the good Lord help me, of BBC transmitters.

Thank you Chris for the information on the programme. Those on the list who are deacendants of the women who came on the Lady Juliana (I was pleased to see that the documentary has the correct spelling not the one in the book) will be very interested. For those who do not know the story of those who went to Norfolk Island and later came on to VDL might like to visit my website where I have the list of their names and who they married. Not many of those who came to VDL are in the book and not a lot is said about their life on Norfolk Island or VDL, but I found it very informative as it told the story of some of the women and their life in England and the conditions there during the time of their trials. Only the British can make a period movie of this kind and hopefully we will get to see it at some later date. Regards Irene Email: schafferi@optusnet.com.au Website: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~schafferi (including Norfolk Island and Van Diemens Land list) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Watts" <ng@ctwatts.plus.com> To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Lady Juliana: "The Floating Brothel" > Those who can access it may be interested in the Timewatch programme on the > Lady Juliana "The Floating Brothel" > Fri 3 February, 9pm, BBC TWO in the UK. > > More details and a clip at : > http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/timewatch/ > > > Chris Watts in the UK > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list - that way we all benefit from > the discussion. > Private, or personal, messages should begin the Subject line with [NEWS] to > ensure that they pass my spam trap. > > > > ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENANZ > >