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    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111
    2. Len Heyward
    3. Roger; Why don't you carry on these little discussions off list. I doubt that many of us are interested. Len Heyward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Horgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111 > Sandie, > > In your first message, you indicated that you objected to the mention of the > "research fees" charged by the Archives Office of Tasmania, because "it is > considered to be commercial advertising". Although you may have implied that > Rootsweb policy was behind it, you did not indicate the basis on which that > assertion was made. You have now indicated that "it is quite okay to mention > that there is a fee applicable for research just don't add the price". > > As you are evidently aware, the fee charged by the AOT is most emphatically > *not* for a commercial service, but is simply a charge levied by the > government authority which has custody of the records most relevant to the > subject of this list. I would firmly suggest to you that the original poster > was doing no more than providing information of interest and relevance to > members of this list in quantifying the said fee. > > As a sometime listowner, I am well aware that the position carries with it > responsibilities, as well as rights. Those rights include the right to > request that topics be closed for discussion. Responsibilities, however, > require that list members understand and accept the reasons for such > requests. I would suggest to you that your reasoning in this instance is > neither clearly understood nor clearly explained. > > Good wishes, > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:13 PM > Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111 > > > | In a message dated 7/05/2002 8:06:22 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, > | [email protected] writes: > | > | Listers ... I am fully aware that it is a Government site. It is quite > | okay to mention that there is a fee applicable for research just don't > add > | the price. > | > | Having made my decision the topic is no longer open for discussion. > | > | > | Bright Blessings > | Sandie > | List Administrator > | > | > | > To List Admin, > | > > | > Heavens above Sandie, > | > > | > Tas Archives is a Gov't organisation who charge about enough to > cover=20 > | > photo copying and postage. In addition I subsribe to seversl overseas > | > Mailing lists through Rootsweb wher actual names of professionals and=20 > | > organisations who charge like wounded bulls are mentioned and I've > never=20 > | > seen a complaint from Rootsweb yet.Aren't we getting just a little > "twee". > | > Regards > | > > | > Ken > | > > | > > | > > | > | > | > | ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > | Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian > Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: > | Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > | > > > ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== > Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: > Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    05/08/2002 01:34:11
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111
    2. Roger Horgan
    3. Sandie, In your first message, you indicated that you objected to the mention of the "research fees" charged by the Archives Office of Tasmania, because "it is considered to be commercial advertising". Although you may have implied that Rootsweb policy was behind it, you did not indicate the basis on which that assertion was made. You have now indicated that "it is quite okay to mention that there is a fee applicable for research just don't add the price". As you are evidently aware, the fee charged by the AOT is most emphatically *not* for a commercial service, but is simply a charge levied by the government authority which has custody of the records most relevant to the subject of this list. I would firmly suggest to you that the original poster was doing no more than providing information of interest and relevance to members of this list in quantifying the said fee. As a sometime listowner, I am well aware that the position carries with it responsibilities, as well as rights. Those rights include the right to request that topics be closed for discussion. Responsibilities, however, require that list members understand and accept the reasons for such requests. I would suggest to you that your reasoning in this instance is neither clearly understood nor clearly explained. Good wishes, Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111 | In a message dated 7/05/2002 8:06:22 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, | [email protected] writes: | | Listers ... I am fully aware that it is a Government site. It is quite | okay to mention that there is a fee applicable for research just don't add | the price. | | Having made my decision the topic is no longer open for discussion. | | | Bright Blessings | Sandie | List Administrator | | | > To List Admin, | > | > Heavens above Sandie, | > | > Tas Archives is a Gov't organisation who charge about enough to cover=20 | > photo copying and postage. In addition I subsribe to seversl overseas | > Mailing lists through Rootsweb wher actual names of professionals and=20 | > organisations who charge like wounded bulls are mentioned and I've never=20 | > seen a complaint from Rootsweb yet.Aren't we getting just a little "twee". | > Regards | > | > Ken | > | > | > | | | | ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== | Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: | Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

    05/07/2002 03:29:56
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Burial Place - Triabunna, 1869
    2. Maureen Martin
    3. Answered off the list. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Burial Place - Triabunna, 1869 Hello all; I'm hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction for the burial place of Ann CUTTIFORD (d. 4 Jan 1869, age 68, Triabunna) and Daniel CUTTIFORD (d. 5 Jul 1869, age 63, Triabunna) They were married in Buckland St John the Baptist in 1854 so I would assume they were CofE. There appears to be three cemetries in Triabunna: St Anne's (which is Catholic, opened 1856), Dead Island (which closed in 1856) and St Marys Anglican (built in 1881) This would seem to indicate that they were either buried in the Catholic Cemetery or in another town. I can't find them in TAMOIT and I doubt if they had the £'s to pay for any headstone, especially seeing that they were both ex-convicts and Dan died within a few months of Ann, but we're off the Tassie in a couple of weeks to retrace Daniel's steps as best we can and it would be good to pay some respects whilst we're there. Any advice/help etc on where they might be would be greatly appreciated. Ian Preston Canberra ==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    05/07/2002 10:58:52
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial Research
    2. carolyn crawford
    3. Hmmm Sandi, I have to agree with Ken.....are there rules for some and not others...thought this page was about helping with research...as a novice in the field am still learning the ropes after 3 years...and I appreciate any snippet of knowledge I can get my hands on..and anything to help the purse strings. Regards Carolyn >From: "Ken Smith" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial Research >Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 09:32:08 +1000 > > > To List Admin, > > Heavens above Sandie, > > Tas Archives is a Gov't organisation who charge about enough to cover >photo copying and postage. In addition I subsribe to seversl overseas >Mailing lists through Rootsweb wher actual names of professionals and >organisations who charge like wounded bulls are mentioned and I've never >seen a complaint from Rootsweb yet.Aren't we getting just a little "twee". > Regards > > Ken > > > > >Ken Smith >Phone[Australia] (03) 9870 3534 >Email:- [email protected] >13 Tagell Rd. Ringwood East, Vic.3135 Australia. >>From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: >>[email protected] Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial >>Research >>Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 06:18:54 EDT >> >>In a message dated 6/05/2002 6:03:11 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>Listers please do not discuss research fees on a Rootsweb mailing list. It >>is considered to be commercial advertising. >> >>Bright Blessings sandie List administrator >> >> >> >> > X-Message: #3 > Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:56:54 +1000 > From: "Ken >>Smith" > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > Subject: Re: >>[TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed. > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >> > Hi there, > If you are looking for Date of conviction, Court record >>extract, date of > arrival in Tasmania,Convict records and date of >>discharge or pardon, I > suggest you try Archives of Tasmania. Look up >>their email address on > internet. They charge smallfee of about $25 Aust >>and the information is > invaluable. Failing that ask someone on list who >>has a Tas. Convict CD to > look up details. Good luck. > > Ken Smith. > > >> >> >> >>==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Please link your webpages to the >>Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The >>navigation bar is located at: >>Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html >> >>============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 >>billion online genealogy records, go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian >Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

    05/07/2002 04:08:22
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial Research
    2. Ken Smith
    3. To List Admin, Heavens above Sandie, Tas Archives is a Gov't organisation who charge about enough to cover photo copying and postage. In addition I subsribe to seversl overseas Mailing lists through Rootsweb wher actual names of professionals and organisations who charge like wounded bulls are mentioned and I've never seen a complaint from Rootsweb yet.Aren't we getting just a little "twee". Regards Ken Ken Smith Phone[Australia] (03) 9870 3534 Email:- [email protected] 13 Tagell Rd. Ringwood East, Vic.3135 Australia. >From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: >[email protected] Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial Research >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 06:18:54 EDT > >In a message dated 6/05/2002 6:03:11 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >Listers please do not discuss research fees on a Rootsweb mailing list. It >is considered to be commercial advertising. > >Bright Blessings sandie List administrator > > > > > X-Message: #3 > Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:56:54 +1000 > From: "Ken >Smith" > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > Subject: Re: >[TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed. > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > Hi there, > If you are looking for Date of conviction, Court record >extract, date of > arrival in Tasmania,Convict records and date of >discharge or pardon, I > suggest you try Archives of Tasmania. Look up >their email address on > internet. They charge smallfee of about $25 Aust >and the information is > invaluable. Failing that ask someone on list who >has a Tas. Convict CD to > look up details. Good luck. > > Ken Smith. > > > > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Please link your webpages to the >Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The >navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 >billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

    05/07/2002 03:32:08
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #111
    2. In a message dated 7/05/2002 8:06:22 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Listers ... I am fully aware that it is a Government site. It is quite okay to mention that there is a fee applicable for research just don't add the price. Having made my decision the topic is no longer open for discussion. Bright Blessings Sandie List Administrator > To List Admin, > > Heavens above Sandie, > > Tas Archives is a Gov't organisation who charge about enough to cover=20 > photo copying and postage. In addition I subsribe to seversl overseas > Mailing lists through Rootsweb wher actual names of professionals and=20 > organisations who charge like wounded bulls are mentioned and I've never=20 > seen a complaint from Rootsweb yet.Aren't we getting just a little "twee". > Regards > > Ken > > >

    05/07/2002 02:13:14
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Burial Place - Triabunna, 1869
    2. MRing
    3. Dear Ian, Just a comment on my husband's ex convict ancestors - they (or their families) did (and many other) have the money for head stones - but then the stones have to survive the ravages of time. Goodluck, Maree At 08:29 PM 05/05/2002 +1000, you wrote: >Hello all; > >I'm hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction for the >burial place of Ann CUTTIFORD (d. 4 Jan 1869, age 68, Triabunna) and Daniel >CUTTIFORD (d. 5 Jul 1869, age 63, Triabunna) > >They were married in Buckland St John the Baptist in 1854 so I would assume >they were CofE. > >There appears to be three cemetries in Triabunna: St Anne's (which is >Catholic, opened 1856), Dead Island (which closed in 1856) and St Marys >Anglican (built in 1881) > >This would seem to indicate that they were either buried in the Catholic >Cemetery or in another town. > >I can't find them in TAMOIT and I doubt if they had the £'s to pay for any >headstone, especially seeing that they were both ex-convicts and Dan died >within a few months of Ann, but we're off the Tassie in a couple of weeks to >retrace Daniel's steps as best we can and it would be good to pay some >respects whilst we're there. > >Any advice/help etc on where they might be would be greatly appreciated. > >Ian Preston >Canberra > > > > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian >Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    05/06/2002 04:44:30
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed.
    2. Ken Smith
    3. Hi there, If you are looking for Date of conviction, Court record extract, date of arrival in Tasmania,Convict records and date of discharge or pardon, I suggest you try Archives of Tasmania. Look up their email address on internet. They charge smallfee of about $25 Aust and the information is invaluable. Failing that ask someone on list who has a Tas. Convict CD to look up details. Good luck. Ken Smith. Ken Smith Phone[Australia] (03) 9870 3534 Email:- [email protected] 13 Tagell Rd. Rinwood East, Vic.3135 Australia. Ken Smith Phone[Australia] (03) 9870 3534 Email:- [email protected] 13 Tagell Rd. Rinwood East, Vic.3135 Australia. >From: "gailp" Reply-To: [email protected] To: >[email protected] Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed. >Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:19:22 +1200 (New Zealand Standard Time) > >Im very new with this interest and could please some kind soul please give >me a gentle word or some direction to go as everywhere lm turning l hit a >brick wall !!!!!!! William Stevens born 1807 London England (Ex-convict) >married tas australia 1839. They arrived in New Zealand 1861 and l do know >he is listed as arriving on the Hindostan2. Is there any where l can go for >dates etc.Im really trying not to pull my hair out but this is getting me >stumped. Hoping someone can help, Gail. Please answer [email protected] > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== Please link your webpages to the >Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The >navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 >billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

    05/06/2002 04:56:54
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed.
    2. Julie Skellern
    3. Dates of what???? There are 333 references to Hindostan - convict - by doing a "google" search. But I didn't go so far as to include your ancestors' name to see if there are any particular references. Try clicking this for a direct link to those 333. http://www.google.co.nz/search?site=swr&hl=en&q=%22Hindostan%22&as_q=convict &btnG=Search%A0within%A0results So this kind soul (hahahaha) would suggest your question could be a little more specific - i.e. waht are you looking for in particular? Julie M Skellern, NEW ZEALAND [email protected] [email protected] From: "gailp" <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:19:22 +1200 (New Zealand Standard Time) To: [email protected] Subject: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed. Im very new with this interest and could please some kind soul please give me a gentle word or some direction to go as everywhere lm turning l hit a brick wall !!!!!!! William Stevens born 1807 London England (Ex-convict) married tas australia 1839. They arrived in New Zealand 1861 and l do know he is listed as arriving on the Hindostan2. Is there any where l can go for dates etc.Im really trying not to pull my hair out but this is getting me stumped. Hoping someone can help, Gail. Please answer [email protected] ______________________________

    05/06/2002 03:09:23
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Commercial Research
    2. In a message dated 6/05/2002 6:03:11 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Listers please do not discuss research fees on a Rootsweb mailing list. It is considered to be commercial advertising. Bright Blessings sandie List administrator > X-Message: #3 > Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:56:54 +1000 > From: "Ken Smith" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed. > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi there, > If you are looking for Date of conviction, Court record extract, date of > arrival in Tasmania,Convict records and date of discharge or pardon, I > suggest you try Archives of Tasmania. Look up their email address on > internet. They charge smallfee of about $25 Aust and the information is > invaluable. Failing that ask someone on list who has a Tas. Convict CD to > look up details. Good luck. > > Ken Smith. > >

    05/06/2002 12:18:54
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Burial Place - Triabunna, 1869
    2. Hello all; I'm hoping someone may be able to point me in the right direction for the burial place of Ann CUTTIFORD (d. 4 Jan 1869, age 68, Triabunna) and Daniel CUTTIFORD (d. 5 Jul 1869, age 63, Triabunna) They were married in Buckland St John the Baptist in 1854 so I would assume they were CofE. There appears to be three cemetries in Triabunna: St Anne's (which is Catholic, opened 1856), Dead Island (which closed in 1856) and St Marys Anglican (built in 1881) This would seem to indicate that they were either buried in the Catholic Cemetery or in another town. I can't find them in TAMOIT and I doubt if they had the £'s to pay for any headstone, especially seeing that they were both ex-convicts and Dan died within a few months of Ann, but we're off the Tassie in a couple of weeks to retrace Daniel's steps as best we can and it would be good to pay some respects whilst we're there. Any advice/help etc on where they might be would be greatly appreciated. Ian Preston Canberra

    05/05/2002 02:29:33
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: AUS-TAS-CONVICTS-D Digest V02 #108
    2. In a message dated 5/05/2002 11:00:51 pm. W. Australia Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > William Stevens born 1807 London England (Ex-convict) married tas australia > 1839. > http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/consm44.htm This is a website for the convict marriages. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/2366/grandad.html This is a website for a NZ family with an ex-convict named William Stevens. Bright Blessings Sandie List Administrator

    05/05/2002 01:48:23
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Help is needed.
    2. gailp
    3. Im very new with this interest and could please some kind soul please give me a gentle word or some direction to go as everywhere lm turning l hit a brick wall !!!!!!! William Stevens born 1807 London England (Ex-convict) married tas australia 1839. They arrived in New Zealand 1861 and l do know he is listed as arriving on the Hindostan2. Is there any where l can go for dates etc.Im really trying not to pull my hair out but this is getting me stumped. Hoping someone can help, Gail. Please answer [email protected]

    05/05/2002 08:19:22
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] BMDs
    2. Peter & Glenis Gibbs
    3. Hi to all Don't forget you can get all the details for all states on - http://www.users.on.net/proformat/bdm.html Cheers, Peter, NZ

    05/03/2002 02:48:40
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Death Cert's
    2. Julie Skellern
    3. The 1863 death cert I have is silent on place of birth or place of death............. and the informant was no use either. He had a pregnant literate wife and four other children.......... so I don't know why the information was missing. Totally frustrating. Was a brick wall - until I went through the AJCP muster rolls AGAIN for his army discharge and finally found that important piece of information. Julie M Skellern, NEW ZEALAND [email protected] [email protected] From: Wendy <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 17:48:11 +0800 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Death Cert's Hi Sandie, I have a death cert from 1859 in Tasmania and it has: Date of Death, Where Born, Place Died, Age, Occupation, Cause of Death, Informant, Date Death Registered. Cheers, Wendy [email protected] wrote: >Hello listers >if someone died in Tasmania in 1846 and 1877 what information would be on the >death certificate? > >Bright Blessings >Sandie > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > -- visit: www.justgen.com for best Genealogy Chat, Links & Support !! See Wendy's Family Tree at: www.geocities.com/wanderer57au

    05/02/2002 06:30:01
    1. Re: [TAS-CONVICTS] Death Cert's
    2. Wendy
    3. Hi Sandie, I have a death cert from 1859 in Tasmania and it has: Date of Death, Where Born, Place Died, Age, Occupation, Cause of Death, Informant, Date Death Registered. Cheers, Wendy [email protected] wrote: >Hello listers >if someone died in Tasmania in 1846 and 1877 what information would be on the >death certificate? > >Bright Blessings >Sandie > > >==== AUS-TAS-CONVICTS Mailing List ==== >Please link your webpages to the Australian Families Webring and Tasmanian Convicts - let's unite!!! The navigation bar is located at: >Http://hometown.aol.com/romniroser/myhomepage/newsletter.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > -- visit: www.justgen.com for best Genealogy Chat, Links & Support !! See Wendy's Family Tree at: www.geocities.com/wanderer57au

    05/02/2002 11:48:11
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Death Certs
    2. Thanks everyone ... was just kinda hoping there might be a lead there ;) ... sheeeesss Irish convicts are hard ones !!!! Bright Blessings Sandie

    05/02/2002 02:04:03
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Re: Tas Death Certificates beforre 1900
    2. Pam Calverley
    3. Hi Sandi The death certificates do not give you alot of information. When died, Name and surname (sometimees if you are lucky it may give an address ie Argyle St (born England), sex, age, rank or profession, cause of death, Signature, description and residence of informant (occassionally it will give a person but most often the undertaker, deprending on where the person died or lived), when registered and the signature of the deputy registrar. You can get copies at your local library if they hold the films for the cost of a photocopy. Pam Calverley Canmberra _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

    05/01/2002 05:06:56
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Lookup offer - court records in Stamford Mercury
    2. Tony Flynn
    3. Hello from chilly England ;-) A comment made by Patti Vallance made me think - she said that not everyone's convict ancestors made the newspaper. After a while I realised that I had been spoiled a bit. My local newspaper, the Stamford Mercury, claims to be Britain's oldest newspaper. Most local historians disagree, but it has been around since at least 1712. Only from the 1790s/1800s though does it begin to contain anything of relevant interest to family/local historians. With regard convict ancestors, the Stamford Mercury reported on the following: Lincoln and Northampton Assizes Holland and Kesteven Sessions Stamford and Stamford Baron Sessions Peterborough Sessions Rutland Sessions In addition there I have seen the odd sessions report from this 'catchment area' So many records belonging to Stamford have vanished to the various County Record Offices - I say various, because if you look at Stamford in Lincolnshire you'll see it lies on the border of Rutland, Northamptonshire and Cambridgeshire. Not only that the town of Stamford itself is historically divided between 5 parishes in Lincolnshire and 1 in Northamptonshire. This means local historians traditionally travel to 4 CRO's (Cambridge, Leicester, Lincoln, Northampton) just to cover the Stamford area - I understand there was a lot of talk about Stamford and Rutland combining with parts of Northamptonshire to form a new county (big vote in favour here), but never went ahead. Crime committed by locals tended to be reported in fuller details; assize and session reports from outside of Stamford may therefore be selective and at the discretion of the reporter. As an example I've included the newspaper reports relating to John Plowright (the prisoner record of who Sue Wyatt is kindly looking up for me). http://www.btinternet.com/~mithril/jp.html There were obviously several other newspapers around at the time e.g. Lincoln Gazette and Northampton Mercury, but if anyone has tried to obtain details from the newspapers and no-one has come forward to help, let me know (I will need of course the name, court and date) and if it's been reported in the Stamford Mercury, I'll send you a transcript of anything I find. As an aside, I may have another transportee, John's older brother William Plowright was also sentenced to 7 years in 1838 - nothing further known. Not only that, a James Ploughwright, not related but of Easton on the Hill (a small village, but seemingly a hotbed of crime in the 1830s), had the same sentence given him at the very same sessions! Regards Tony Surname interests (any and all references) 1. Pilmore, Pilmer, Pilmoor, Pilmuir 2. Plowright, Ploughwright

    05/01/2002 11:11:36
    1. [TAS-CONVICTS] Death Cert's
    2. Hello listers if someone died in Tasmania in 1846 and 1877 what information would be on the death certificate? Bright Blessings Sandie

    05/01/2002 04:39:02