?Hi Kevin and Listers, I apparently didn't make it clear that the Register newspaper list from Trove and my composite passenger list appear together in my search results. For those hoping to make a direct comparison for other voyages, note that so far I have only added newspaper lists to about a third of my passenger lists. If you have a specific request for one that hasn't been done yet, let me know. Yes Kevin, the extra passenger list details were taken from BISA, the full information from the entry being: Henry Conway SEYMOUR, father Thomas, mother Jane nee THOMPSON Born 1799 Ballymore Castle GAL IRL; died 12-12-1869 Mt Benson SA, buried Robe SA Arrived 1841 Siam Occupations: barrister, pastoralist Resided at Naracoorte and Mt Barker Religion: C of E Married Eliza nee DROUGHT, IRL; father Robert, mother Eliza; born c1802, died 10-11-1885 Naracoorte SA Children: Thomas Drought 1822-97, Eliz HAWKER 1825-1901, Ellen, Robert -1895, Jane, Henry -1847, Charles c1841-1901, Susan, James Drought 1844- . None of the children's births were registered in SA. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -----Original Message----- From: Clartiere Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Leadbeater Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 Thanks Barry I had found your site using Google. I was curious as to why Chas was in parentheses. I did take a look at Trove but was unable to find anything. Plenty of reports about Siam+arrival. If you say it's there leave it with me and I'll go into a specific issue with a specific date. Here in NZ I find that pays dividends on PapersPast. Many thanks Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leadbeater" <leadbeater@ozemail.com.au> To: "Clartiere" <clartiere@gmail.com>; <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 > ?Hi Kevin, > > No official passenger list for this voyage has survived. > > Therefore, the main source is the newspaper passenger list. You can view > this newspaper list from Trove and my composite passenger list for direct > comparison at > > www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html > > Select "passenger lists" from the search form drop-down list and enter > "siam" in the "ship name" box. The date doesn't need to be filled in. > > The family had a son Charles but whether he was born on the voyage or > afterwards I don't know - hence the brackets indicating some doubt as to > whether he was onboard. > > Cheers, > Barry Leadbeater > www.familyhistorysa.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clartiere > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:38 PM > To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 > > I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the original passenger list > for the SIAM, which arrived into Port Adelaide in April 1841 (some sites > say on the 23rd and some say on the 25th). > > I have viewed Diane Cummings site and it mentions 5 SEYMOURS. I suspect > they are all from the same family, but were accomodated in different > cabins. > > I have viewed the details at www.familyhistorysa.info. This site provides > the following: > > SEYMOUR Henry Conway, Eliza nee DROUGHT, Thos Drought, Eliz, Ellen, Rbt, > Hy, (Chas). > > My query related to the last named child, Charles. His birthplace is a bit > of a brick wall at present. Some say he was born 1841 in Co Galway, > Ireland. Civil registration didn't exist there until much later, and the > Church of Ireland parish records might have been amongst the many lost in > the 1922 bombings. > > Some say he was born in or near Adelaide, but SA civil registration began > in the following year. > > I wonder why this site places his name in the list but in parentheses. Was > on he on board for sure, or is someone guessing? Was he born on board > perhaps? All online websites that include him seem to agree he was born in > 1841, so on the ship or in South Australia are the only options. The SIAM > departed London in December 1840. > > Is there anyone on this List who might have the answers please? > > Many thanks > Kevin Walker > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Majella, Barry, & Steph for on and off list responses to my earlier question. I've been advised that the original passenger list of the SIAM has not survived, and that the Recorder article on 1 May 1841 is all there is. Subsequent to that there have been excellent efforts to expand the passenger list using data from other sources including BISA. Two people have forwarded those details to me. Besides the parents there were 4 children on board. All I wanted to do was to see if there was any evidence that Charles was also present. I doubt it, but he was almost certainly born in 1841 and thus born prior to civil registration in SA. I have checked the SAGHS microfiche which I believe cover births from 1 July 1842. Charles' sister Susan SEYMOUR was born in Adelaide in 1843, and their brother James Drought in 1844. Strangely neither was listed on the fiche. Thanks again for the input today from the List. Kevin