A kind word of thanks to Rhonda and Judy who supplied me with different information of George Palmer, parents, siblings and ships. This will keep me happily ensconced this afternoon while certain male St Kilda fans are glued to the Aussie Rules grand final. Regards to all, Rowena

I have some death certificates giving Coglin Street, Brompton Park as the residence. Is this just what is now Brompton, or was it a particular part of Brompton around 1909 to 1915? (I am trying to narrow down the address, as Coglin Street is quite long.) Thanks Jan

Replied off list to Rowena. Judy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:22 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] George Palmer Look-up > Dear Listers > > > > Alfred Breeze Palmer married Elizabeth Shugg in 1873 in Adelaide. I have > their children, but would like to find more information on Alfred B. > Palmer, > if possible. Alfred was born 1853 in Essex, and his father's name was > George Palmer. I am wondering if George Palmer emigrated with his family > to > South Australia? > > > > Kind regards, > > Rowena > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Jill Do you know what the H stands for in James H. Bennetts name? I've presumed James Henry. Bennetts is a name which occurs primarily in Cornwall. I've come across it there a number of times. The baptisms under the name BENNETTS listed on the OPC are later in 1855 and 1868, but not all parish records are loaded on yet. Middle names were not always given or noted on baptism records. Quite a number of my Cornish forbears born from c.1780-1870 for whom I have documentary evidence of middle names, don't have these middle names on their baptism, or civil registration records. Searching FreeBMD under BENNETTS, and Deaths from Sep 1837 - 1860 gives over 95% return for Cornwall. A couple in Stoke Dameral and Tavistock, which are Devon, on the border of Cornwall. My thought is that you are looking at a Cornish name in Bennetts. I noted deaths for a Henry's and Elizabeth's in Redruth, moreso than other Counties. Next, I would be contacting the some OPC's (Redruth, Camborne perhaps) to see if they can shed more light. Beyond that the Cornwall Family History Society has a very helpful website, and CD's of pre-civil registration can be purchased for all parishes. The IGI has a marriage, an extracted parish record for: Henry BENNETTS and Elizabeth RODDA, on 1 Nov 1830, Camborne, Cornwall. This is the only marriage that comes up under Henry and Elizabeth Bennet or Bennetts. This would mean that the James BENNETT bapt 6 Jun 1831, Camborne (extracted parish record) to parents Henry and Elizabeth is the son of the couple above. Next thought is that young James will be in the 1841 Census and likely the 1851 census, quite possibly still living with his parents. I searched on FreeCEN, and there are a number of James Bennetts coming up. I couldn't find an exact match for 1841, but then enumerators miss-spelt names, so a wider search may pay results. I did find a name match with 1851 census: Piece: HO107/1916 Place: Camborne -Cornwall Enumeration District: 1j Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Folio: 286 Page: 8 Schedule: 183 Address: Condurrow Father: Bennetts, James, Head, age 50, Miner, born Camborne; Mother: Bennetts, Elizth, wife, 47, Miners wife, born Camborne; Son: Bennetts, James, 21, miner, born Camborne Other children all born in Camborne were: Elizabeth 24 , mining girl; Ann, 20, mining girl; Jane, 16, mining girl; Fanny 14, home assistant; Henry, 9, school; Richard, 5, school. Another way to go, to try and determine which family he belongs to, is to try and reconstruct the possible families, to look at the baptism / birth names and dates, and to try to see if there are any similarities to his children's names, or naming patterns being repeated. My thought is that James is likely named after his paternal grandfather. Can't think of anything else useful, and hopefully this helps you move on a little farther. Kind regards, Rowena

Can anyone please tell me if they are relates to the following people I cannot find either of their origin I have tried Ancestry.com Familysearch.org All Sth Aus records Cornwall OPC Any clues would be a major help? Pulling out the little grey hairs I have left? James H. BENNETTS Born 1832 Where?????son of Henry and Elizabeth BENNETTS Died 1918 Broken Hill Married: 15 September 1856 Kooringa, SA Mary C. ELLERY Born: 1840 St Austell Cornwall cannot find her or her parnets here ? daughter of Edward ELLERY and Ann HAUGHTON died 24 Janaury 1900 Broken Hill Children 1. BENNETTS Samuel Date: 1857-08-11 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa 2. BENNETTS Samuel Date: 1858-12-24 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa 3. BENNETTS Mary Ann Date: 1860-08-23 Kooringa Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Kooringa Married: William HARDY [They are MY CONNECTION ] BENNETTS James Date: 1863-05-23 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa BENNETTS Alfred Date: 1865-03-20 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa BENNETTS Thomas Edward Date: 1867-09-04 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa BENNETTS Fanny Date: 1872-11-15 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa BENNETTS Edward Date: 1877-12-28 Father: James BENNETTS Mother: Mary ELLERY Birth Place/Residence: Kooringa Thnakyou for reading all this anyway Sincerely Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY Street Names of the Copper Coast - project jmorley@austarnet.com.au OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org

Hi Ros Williams is 100 miles south of Perth, on the western edge of the wheat belt, a mixed farming area, though these days a number of the miners from Boddington live in the district If you have any other queries please ask it is my home town though these days I live in Perth, but still have family farming in the district. Helen -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ros Dunstall Sent: Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:39 To: Aus-sagen Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Western Australian Regn districts Hello list members, Could sks let me know where the regn district of Williams is in WA. If it is not near Kalgoorlie, could you tell what that district would be please. Many thanks, Ros Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Alfred Breeze Palmer married Elizabeth Shugg in 1873 in Adelaide. I have their children, but would like to find more information on Alfred B. Palmer, if possible. Alfred was born 1853 in Essex, and his father's name was George Palmer. I am wondering if George Palmer emigrated with his family to South Australia? Kind regards, Rowena

Hi Rowena, The only Rochford in BISA is as below: ROCHFORD John arr: by 1860 res: Lake Roy rel: RC (roman cathoic)m: Mary nee REDMOND ch: John (1860-), others? regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:32 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Charles Rochford > Dear Listers > > > > Would someone with the BISA be able to check whether there is an entry for > Charles Rochford? I have the SAGHS entries on him, but am wondering if there > is any further information that may indicate when he emigrated or his > origins. The IGI doesn't have an appropriate entry, and I can't find > anything on the passenger arrivals database 1803-55. > > > > Thank you, > > Rowena > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers Would someone with the BISA be able to check whether there is an entry for Charles Rochford? I have the SAGHS entries on him, but am wondering if there is any further information that may indicate when he emigrated or his origins. The IGI doesn't have an appropriate entry, and I can't find anything on the passenger arrivals database 1803-55. Thank you, Rowena

Hello list members, Could sks let me know where the regn district of Williams is in WA. If it is not near Kalgoorlie, could you tell what that district would be please. Many thanks, Ros

Replied to Eileen off list Judy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen White" <eileenwhite@internode.on.net> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:42 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] James Augustus SADLER > Hello Listers > > Does anyone have James Augustus SADLER in their tree? I'm trying to find > out a bit about him for my bro-in-law. > > I have him arriving in SA on the Princess Royal in 1848 (name recorded as > SADDLER). There is also a Caroline SADDLER arriving at the same time - > perhaps his sister? > > I have a marriage for him to Esther Squire 5th Feb 1850 at St Andrew's, > Walkerville, South Australia (IGI) and I'm puzzled as to why this is not > on the CD. > > I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to see if James is included > in BISA. > > Any information gratefully received. > > Thank you > Eileen > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks Andrew, for your speedy check on this for me! All of us who enjoy working on the Bound Family history will appreciate it. Will check on the Destitute Asylum. Thanks again Chris C. On 22 September 2010 18:13, Andrew Peake <agpeake@gmail.com> wrote: > Nobody with the surname of Bound was in the Adelaide and Parkside (Lunatic) > Asylums. She may have entered the Adelaide (Desitute) Asylum. > > -- > Andrew G Peake > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have answered Helen Sheelagh > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3151 - Release Date: 09/22/10 07:45:00

Hi Judy & Doug! Many thanks for your suggestions and information. This gives me the sources needed. with my appreciation. Chris. On 22 September 2010 18:12, abhcon <abhcon@senet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I was able to get a copy of my GGGGrandmother's medical records for the > Adelaide Lunatic Asylum by contacting Dr David Buob from the Glenside > Hospital Historical Society on (08)8375 6000. > > Cheers > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Christine Cook > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 5:13 PM > To: Doug; aus-sagen > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > > Hi Doug! > Thanks for the offer. Much appreciated. > I first need to ascertain if Mrs. Jane Bound was admitted to an Asylum in > Adelaide, either the Lunatic Asylum or the Benevolent Asylum, in the years > between 1878 and 1893 at the latest. > I understand there are records on microfiche that can be viewed. If your > contact can do this for me that would be great! > Thanks. > Chris. > > On 22 September 2010 17:26, Doug <doug@praas.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi Christine, > > > > I had an ancestor that was admitted to the Parkside Lunatic Asylum in > 1911. > > An Adelaide-based genealogist was able, after a longish process, to track > > down his detailed medical records. > > > > If you wish, I can send the contact for the researcher. > > > > Regards > > Doug > > Brisbane. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > > aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Christine Cook > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 11:08 AM > > To: AUS-SAGEN > > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > > > > Hi! > > I'm wondering if one of my ancestors was a resident in the Adelaide > Asylum. > > Mrs. Jane Bound, as she was known, arrived in South Australia in > September > > 1878 from Plymouth on SS "Oaklands" with her 9 children. She was a > widow, > > the eldest of her children 19 and her youngest would have been about 10 > > months old. She and her children travelled out to where they had > relatives > > near Riverton, Sth Aust. Sometime after 1883 she moved to Victoria where > > her eldest son had leased property. > > >From 1890's 3 of her sons, William, Edwin (Ned) and Abel had "bouts of > > insanity" and were committed to institutions in Victoria. In > > correspondence > > obtained from their files, it mentions that their mother had been > admitted > > to the Adelaide Asylum and/or had been under restraint in England. > > > > I was wondering if it would be possible to access admissions between > Sept. > > 1878 and about 1890 to ascertain if she, or any of her children, were > > admitted. Her full name was Amelia Jane Bound (nee Congdon) and she died > > of > > typoid fever in Nhill, Vic in 1893. > > > > I understand that some records are available for look-ups but I can not > > easily access them from country Victoria. Any help or advice would be > > appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > Chris C. > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Listers Does anyone have James Augustus SADLER in their tree? I'm trying to find out a bit about him for my bro-in-law. I have him arriving in SA on the Princess Royal in 1848 (name recorded as SADDLER). There is also a Caroline SADDLER arriving at the same time - perhaps his sister? I have a marriage for him to Esther Squire 5th Feb 1850 at St Andrew's, Walkerville, South Australia (IGI) and I'm puzzled as to why this is not on the CD. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to see if James is included in BISA. Any information gratefully received. Thank you Eileen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob May" <tpibob44@bigpond.com> To: "Christine Cook" <chris@redcliffs.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > Chris > This is the destitute asylum that was situated behind what is now the > State and Mortlock libraries. Some of the buildings are still standing and > they do hold some records. I called in there when I was in Adelaide for a > funeral a month or so ago and they were very helpful. > They have a Migration museum there now. The is an entrance on Kintore > Avenue that runs back towards the Torrens No 82 > I have a business card from them for Christine Finnimore, Director > cfinnimore@history.sa.gov.au web www.history.sa.gov.au They checked to see > if they held any records from my query and got back to me in the next > weeks. Unfortunately they didn't have the records, they were in State > Archives out at ? Wingfield isn't that the location ? someone can you > confirm this location. I know its out Gepps Cross way. > bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Cook" <chris@redcliffs.net> > To: "AUS-SAGEN" <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:08 AM > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > > >> Hi! >> I'm wondering if one of my ancestors was a resident in the Adelaide >> Asylum. >> Mrs. Jane Bound, as she was known, arrived in South Australia in >> September >> 1878 from Plymouth on SS "Oaklands" with her 9 children. She was a >> widow, >> the eldest of her children 19 and her youngest would have been about 10 >> months old. She and her children travelled out to where they had >> relatives >> near Riverton, Sth Aust. Sometime after 1883 she moved to Victoria where >> her eldest son had leased property. >>>From 1890's 3 of her sons, William, Edwin (Ned) and Abel had "bouts of >> insanity" and were committed to institutions in Victoria. In >> correspondence >> obtained from their files, it mentions that their mother had been >> admitted >> to the Adelaide Asylum and/or had been under restraint in England. >> >> I was wondering if it would be possible to access admissions between >> Sept. >> 1878 and about 1890 to ascertain if she, or any of her children, were >> admitted. Her full name was Amelia Jane Bound (nee Congdon) and she died >> of >> typoid fever in Nhill, Vic in 1893. >> >> I understand that some records are available for look-ups but I can not >> easily access them from country Victoria. Any help or advice would be >> appreciated. >> >> Cheers >> Chris C. >> Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4949 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Nobody with the surname of Bound was in the Adelaide and Parkside (Lunatic) Asylums. She may have entered the Adelaide (Desitute) Asylum. -- Andrew G Peake

Hi Doug! Thanks for the offer. Much appreciated. I first need to ascertain if Mrs. Jane Bound was admitted to an Asylum in Adelaide, either the Lunatic Asylum or the Benevolent Asylum, in the years between 1878 and 1893 at the latest. I understand there are records on microfiche that can be viewed. If your contact can do this for me that would be great! Thanks. Chris. On 22 September 2010 17:26, Doug <doug@praas.com.au> wrote: > Hi Christine, > > I had an ancestor that was admitted to the Parkside Lunatic Asylum in 1911. > An Adelaide-based genealogist was able, after a longish process, to track > down his detailed medical records. > > If you wish, I can send the contact for the researcher. > > Regards > Doug > Brisbane. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Christine Cook > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 11:08 AM > To: AUS-SAGEN > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > > Hi! > I'm wondering if one of my ancestors was a resident in the Adelaide Asylum. > Mrs. Jane Bound, as she was known, arrived in South Australia in September > 1878 from Plymouth on SS "Oaklands" with her 9 children. She was a widow, > the eldest of her children 19 and her youngest would have been about 10 > months old. She and her children travelled out to where they had relatives > near Riverton, Sth Aust. Sometime after 1883 she moved to Victoria where > her eldest son had leased property. > >From 1890's 3 of her sons, William, Edwin (Ned) and Abel had "bouts of > insanity" and were committed to institutions in Victoria. In > correspondence > obtained from their files, it mentions that their mother had been admitted > to the Adelaide Asylum and/or had been under restraint in England. > > I was wondering if it would be possible to access admissions between Sept. > 1878 and about 1890 to ascertain if she, or any of her children, were > admitted. Her full name was Amelia Jane Bound (nee Congdon) and she died > of > typoid fever in Nhill, Vic in 1893. > > I understand that some records are available for look-ups but I can not > easily access them from country Victoria. Any help or advice would be > appreciated. > > Cheers > Chris C. > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Chris, I was able to get a copy of my GGGGrandmother's medical records for the Adelaide Lunatic Asylum by contacting Dr David Buob from the Glenside Hospital Historical Society on (08)8375 6000. Cheers Judy -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christine Cook Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 5:13 PM To: Doug; aus-sagen Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum Hi Doug! Thanks for the offer. Much appreciated. I first need to ascertain if Mrs. Jane Bound was admitted to an Asylum in Adelaide, either the Lunatic Asylum or the Benevolent Asylum, in the years between 1878 and 1893 at the latest. I understand there are records on microfiche that can be viewed. If your contact can do this for me that would be great! Thanks. Chris. On 22 September 2010 17:26, Doug <doug@praas.com.au> wrote: > Hi Christine, > > I had an ancestor that was admitted to the Parkside Lunatic Asylum in 1911. > An Adelaide-based genealogist was able, after a longish process, to track > down his detailed medical records. > > If you wish, I can send the contact for the researcher. > > Regards > Doug > Brisbane. > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Christine Cook > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 11:08 AM > To: AUS-SAGEN > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Adelaide Asylum > > Hi! > I'm wondering if one of my ancestors was a resident in the Adelaide Asylum. > Mrs. Jane Bound, as she was known, arrived in South Australia in September > 1878 from Plymouth on SS "Oaklands" with her 9 children. She was a widow, > the eldest of her children 19 and her youngest would have been about 10 > months old. She and her children travelled out to where they had relatives > near Riverton, Sth Aust. Sometime after 1883 she moved to Victoria where > her eldest son had leased property. > >From 1890's 3 of her sons, William, Edwin (Ned) and Abel had "bouts of > insanity" and were committed to institutions in Victoria. In > correspondence > obtained from their files, it mentions that their mother had been admitted > to the Adelaide Asylum and/or had been under restraint in England. > > I was wondering if it would be possible to access admissions between Sept. > 1878 and about 1890 to ascertain if she, or any of her children, were > admitted. Her full name was Amelia Jane Bound (nee Congdon) and she died > of > typoid fever in Nhill, Vic in 1893. > > I understand that some records are available for look-ups but I can not > easily access them from country Victoria. Any help or advice would be > appreciated. > > Cheers > Chris C. > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message