Also my grateful thanks to both Ros and Genie Chris, Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Betty Pearson in Western Australia > Fantastic effort. Many thanks to Ros > and Genie Chris for compiling this list > which will be such great benefit to all. > Joan Fry in Western Australia.

Fantastic effort. Many thanks to Ros and Genie Chris for compiling this list which will be such great benefit to all. Joan Fry in Western Australia.

Hello List members, http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ Finally...............I have double checked all the links suggested [I hope] and they work, so here is the link to the list. Thank you to everyone who wrote with their favourites, there are so many places out there with information it was difficult to put in the most pertinent. A big thank you to Genie Chris for her help. Happy surfing the www. Ros List Admin

Thanks for sharing.... What a remarkable website. Chris Pycroft (nee GWYNNE) Port Augusta SA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Cook" <chris@redcliffs.net> To: <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] view of the past > Hi all! > Check out this web site that has old photos attached to the places they > were > taken on a Google map. Bit like Google street view into the past. > http://www.historypin.com/ > Chris. > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 >

Thanks to Majella, Barry, & Steph for on and off list responses to my earlier question. I've been advised that the original passenger list of the SIAM has not survived, and that the Recorder article on 1 May 1841 is all there is. Subsequent to that there have been excellent efforts to expand the passenger list using data from other sources including BISA. Two people have forwarded those details to me. Besides the parents there were 4 children on board. All I wanted to do was to see if there was any evidence that Charles was also present. I doubt it, but he was almost certainly born in 1841 and thus born prior to civil registration in SA. I have checked the SAGHS microfiche which I believe cover births from 1 July 1842. Charles' sister Susan SEYMOUR was born in Adelaide in 1843, and their brother James Drought in 1844. Strangely neither was listed on the fiche. Thanks again for the input today from the List. Kevin

?Hi Kevin and Listers, I apparently didn't make it clear that the Register newspaper list from Trove and my composite passenger list appear together in my search results. For those hoping to make a direct comparison for other voyages, note that so far I have only added newspaper lists to about a third of my passenger lists. If you have a specific request for one that hasn't been done yet, let me know. Yes Kevin, the extra passenger list details were taken from BISA, the full information from the entry being: Henry Conway SEYMOUR, father Thomas, mother Jane nee THOMPSON Born 1799 Ballymore Castle GAL IRL; died 12-12-1869 Mt Benson SA, buried Robe SA Arrived 1841 Siam Occupations: barrister, pastoralist Resided at Naracoorte and Mt Barker Religion: C of E Married Eliza nee DROUGHT, IRL; father Robert, mother Eliza; born c1802, died 10-11-1885 Naracoorte SA Children: Thomas Drought 1822-97, Eliz HAWKER 1825-1901, Ellen, Robert -1895, Jane, Henry -1847, Charles c1841-1901, Susan, James Drought 1844- . None of the children's births were registered in SA. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -----Original Message----- From: Clartiere Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Leadbeater Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 Thanks Barry I had found your site using Google. I was curious as to why Chas was in parentheses. I did take a look at Trove but was unable to find anything. Plenty of reports about Siam+arrival. If you say it's there leave it with me and I'll go into a specific issue with a specific date. Here in NZ I find that pays dividends on PapersPast. Many thanks Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leadbeater" <leadbeater@ozemail.com.au> To: "Clartiere" <clartiere@gmail.com>; <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 > ?Hi Kevin, > > No official passenger list for this voyage has survived. > > Therefore, the main source is the newspaper passenger list. You can view > this newspaper list from Trove and my composite passenger list for direct > comparison at > > www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html > > Select "passenger lists" from the search form drop-down list and enter > "siam" in the "ship name" box. The date doesn't need to be filled in. > > The family had a son Charles but whether he was born on the voyage or > afterwards I don't know - hence the brackets indicating some doubt as to > whether he was onboard. > > Cheers, > Barry Leadbeater > www.familyhistorysa.info > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clartiere > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:38 PM > To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 > > I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the original passenger list > for the SIAM, which arrived into Port Adelaide in April 1841 (some sites > say on the 23rd and some say on the 25th). > > I have viewed Diane Cummings site and it mentions 5 SEYMOURS. I suspect > they are all from the same family, but were accomodated in different > cabins. > > I have viewed the details at www.familyhistorysa.info. This site provides > the following: > > SEYMOUR Henry Conway, Eliza nee DROUGHT, Thos Drought, Eliz, Ellen, Rbt, > Hy, (Chas). > > My query related to the last named child, Charles. His birthplace is a bit > of a brick wall at present. Some say he was born 1841 in Co Galway, > Ireland. Civil registration didn't exist there until much later, and the > Church of Ireland parish records might have been amongst the many lost in > the 1922 bombings. > > Some say he was born in or near Adelaide, but SA civil registration began > in the following year. > > I wonder why this site places his name in the list but in parentheses. Was > on he on board for sure, or is someone guessing? Was he born on board > perhaps? All online websites that include him seem to agree he was born in > 1841, so on the ship or in South Australia are the only options. The SIAM > departed London in December 1840. > > Is there anyone on this List who might have the answers please? > > Many thanks > Kevin Walker > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have replied to Leita Lyn

?Hi Kevin, No official passenger list for this voyage has survived. Therefore, the main source is the newspaper passenger list. You can view this newspaper list from Trove and my composite passenger list for direct comparison at www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html Select "passenger lists" from the search form drop-down list and enter "siam" in the "ship name" box. The date doesn't need to be filled in. The family had a son Charles but whether he was born on the voyage or afterwards I don't know - hence the brackets indicating some doubt as to whether he was onboard. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -----Original Message----- From: Clartiere Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:38 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List for the SIAM 1840/1 I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the original passenger list for the SIAM, which arrived into Port Adelaide in April 1841 (some sites say on the 23rd and some say on the 25th). I have viewed Diane Cummings site and it mentions 5 SEYMOURS. I suspect they are all from the same family, but were accomodated in different cabins. I have viewed the details at www.familyhistorysa.info. This site provides the following: SEYMOUR Henry Conway, Eliza nee DROUGHT, Thos Drought, Eliz, Ellen, Rbt, Hy, (Chas). My query related to the last named child, Charles. His birthplace is a bit of a brick wall at present. Some say he was born 1841 in Co Galway, Ireland. Civil registration didn't exist there until much later, and the Church of Ireland parish records might have been amongst the many lost in the 1922 bombings. Some say he was born in or near Adelaide, but SA civil registration began in the following year. I wonder why this site places his name in the list but in parentheses. Was on he on board for sure, or is someone guessing? Was he born on board perhaps? All online websites that include him seem to agree he was born in 1841, so on the ship or in South Australia are the only options. The SIAM departed London in December 1840. Is there anyone on this List who might have the answers please? Many thanks Kevin Walker Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the original passenger list for the SIAM, which arrived into Port Adelaide in April 1841 (some sites say on the 23rd and some say on the 25th). I have viewed Diane Cummings site and it mentions 5 SEYMOURS. I suspect they are all from the same family, but were accomodated in different cabins. I have viewed the details at www.familyhistorysa.info. This site provides the following: SEYMOUR Henry Conway, Eliza nee DROUGHT, Thos Drought, Eliz, Ellen, Rbt, Hy, (Chas). My query related to the last named child, Charles. His birthplace is a bit of a brick wall at present. Some say he was born 1841 in Co Galway, Ireland. Civil registration didn't exist there until much later, and the Church of Ireland parish records might have been amongst the many lost in the 1922 bombings. Some say he was born in or near Adelaide, but SA civil registration began in the following year. I wonder why this site places his name in the list but in parentheses. Was on he on board for sure, or is someone guessing? Was he born on board perhaps? All online websites that include him seem to agree he was born in 1841, so on the ship or in Soith Australia are the only options. The SIAM departed London in December 1840. Is there anyone on this List who might have the answers please? Many thanks Kevin Walker

Hi, Di is right. There are many places that do grants for historical things. One place she could look is her local libraries or councils. I know my local council has grants available at the moment for historical and local significant things. She could also put into Google search engine "Grants" or "historical Grants". Being the National Library, I would have thought their staff would know of the different Government bodies that do such grants. When I am looking for grants for school I will have a look and keep you in mind Regards Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dicummings2003@email.com Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2011 10:14 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Digitise The Dawn Kylie wrote: Digitise The Dawn <http://digitisethedawn.org/> are raising funds so that the National Library can digitise The Dawn newspaper and add it to Trove <http://www.trove.nla.gov.au/>. Louisa Lawson <http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100019b.htm> founded The Dawn: A Journal for Australian Women in 1888 and ran it for 17 years. She was a pivotal figure in winning women the right to vote in Australia, and her publication played a key role in the struggle for women's suffrage. The Dawn contained reports on women's wrongs, helping to fight their battles and sue for their suffrage. It offered household advice, fashion, poetry, a short story and *extensive reporting of women's activities both locally and overseas*. As well as providing information about the times it was published in, The Dawn *could provide vital information to genealogists and local history researchers about the women who worked for Louisa Lawson and those who featured in the newspaper's articles. *If you're able to donate to this venture please do but also spread the word through your blog or social networks. I have a poster which can be printed or emailed to others if anyone would like it please contact me or it's also available to download from www.digitisethedawn.org Hi Kylie. have you thought of applying for a Government Grant to do this ??? Personally I have not idea how to do this, but I bet Ros Dunstall and others on this list know. anyone ??? Cheers from Di Cummings of Melbourne http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/BoundforSouthAustralia.htm Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all! Check out this web site that has old photos attached to the places they were taken on a Google map. Bit like Google street view into the past. http://www.historypin.com/ Chris.

Hi! I am wondering if anyone can help me solve a problem. Austin and Bridget Lynch came to SA in 1858 on board "Nugget". (son Michael was also with them) They were also the parents of Mary Ann Lynch who married Gustav(e) Carl Simon 17 July 1858 at Kapunda. Austin died 11 June 1881 and is buried in Jamestown Cemetery. He was recorded as being a widower. I can not find a death for Bridget or burial place. Oral family history records Bridget as being a Driscoll and having sisters Maria (married ? Jeremiah Liddy) and another marrying a Quinn. regards Lyn

Hi Everyone Digitise The Dawn <http://digitisethedawn.org/> are raising funds so that the National Library can digitise The Dawn newspaper and add it to Trove <http://www.trove.nla.gov.au/>. Louisa Lawson <http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100019b.htm> founded The Dawn: A Journal for Australian Women in 1888 and ran it for 17 years. She was a pivotal figure in winning women the right to vote in Australia, and her publication played a key role in the struggle for women's suffrage. The Dawn contained reports on women's wrongs, helping to fight their battles and sue for their suffrage. It offered household advice, fashion, poetry, a short story and *extensive reporting of women's activities both locally and overseas*. As well as providing information about the times it was published in, The Dawn *could provide vital information to genealogists and local history researchers about the women who worked for Louisa Lawson and those who featured in the newspaper's articles. *If you're able to donate to this venture please do but also spread the word through your blog or social networks. I have a poster which can be printed or emailed to others if anyone would like it please contact me or it's also available to download from www.digitisethedawn.org Thanks, Kylie :-)

>From the Victorian List....   F.Y.I. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Reid" <intohistory@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC] Surname indexing > Hello all, > > I wish to contact authors/publishers of Australian family histories who would like to contribute family surnames to a massive indexing project (227,000 index entries to date).  For more details and requirements, email subject 'Index' to intohistory@optusnet.com.au or mail to R. Reid, PO Box 304, KIAMA 2533.  No cost is involved for persons contributing. > > Best wishes, > > Ralph Reid

Kylie wrote: Digitise The Dawn <http://digitisethedawn.org/> are raising funds so that the National Library can digitise The Dawn newspaper and add it to Trove <http://www.trove.nla.gov.au/>. Louisa Lawson <http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100019b.htm> founded The Dawn: A Journal for Australian Women in 1888 and ran it for 17 years. She was a pivotal figure in winning women the right to vote in Australia, and her publication played a key role in the struggle for women's suffrage. The Dawn contained reports on women's wrongs, helping to fight their battles and sue for their suffrage. It offered household advice, fashion, poetry, a short story and *extensive reporting of women's activities both locally and overseas*. As well as providing information about the times it was published in, The Dawn *could provide vital information to genealogists and local history researchers about the women who worked for Louisa Lawson and those who featured in the newspaper's articles. *If you're able to donate to this venture please do but also spread the word through your blog or social networks. I have a poster which can be printed or emailed to others if anyone would like it please contact me or it's also available to download from www.digitisethedawn.org Hi Kylie. have you thought of applying for a Government Grant to do this ??? Personally I have not idea how to do this, but I bet Ros Dunstall and others on this list know. anyone ??? Cheers from Di Cummings of Melbourne http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/BoundforSouthAustralia.htm

I've just found a memorial notice  for Eliza (nee ROWE) MATTHEWS d.1895 saying our dear sister, Mr & Mrs PARRY.   Previously I was told Eliza arrived in SA with her cousin Kate but have been unable to find any referencee to her.   Can someone please lookup a ROWE PARRY marriage ? c1860's or 1870's   Father Francis ROWE   hELEN

Hello to All Listers I am wondering if there is anyone on the lists that are researching the CHANDLER family from the Yorke Peninsula Area My Great Grand Parents came from that area and their descendants also grew up there till they were old enough to move on to do their own thing. If there is anyone who is doing or knows some of their information can you please contact me With Thanks Sheelagh Wiles swiles@ozemail.com.au http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/hunter2000 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3423 - Release Date: 02/05/11 06:06:00

Thank you to all that have helped me. I think I am getting closer to working this out. I appreciated all the suggestions. I found an article about a man who died and he worked for Bowmans on Parara Station, 20 miles south of Clinton, Yorkes Peninsula. So it sounds like that couldn't spell very well, it's Tarrara, Parara, Barara, and there is others. Thank you very much again Tracey -----Original message--------- From: "Tracey Ives" <traceyives@gmail.com> To: "AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb. com" <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Yorke Peninsula > Hi,, > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there knows the Yorke Peninsula well, > especially around Moonta area. > > > > I have been going through the Adelaide Almanack for 1864 and Edmund was a > sheep farmer at Tarrara. > > > > On the Birth CD, is daughter Frances was born at Barara, Yorke Peninsula. > > > > I am assuming this is the same place, just misspelt > > > > I can't find any town by that name, so my question is.............. > > > > Was it a small village/town in 1864 or was it the name of their sheep > station? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tracey > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tracey How about Barabba, a town in the mid north of SA near Hamley Bridge, Owen, Stockport. Certainly not far from Moonta. Josephine Buidhe Yorkshire Terriers & Golden Retrievers Home of Grand Champions Breeding for pride, pleasure and satisfaction http://www.buidhe.com Simply the Best ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracey Ives To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb. com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Yorke Peninsula Hi,, I was wondering if anyone out there knows the Yorke Peninsula well, especially around Moonta area. I have been going through the Adelaide Almanack for 1864 and Edmund was a sheep farmer at Tarrara. On the Birth CD, is daughter Frances was born at Barara, Yorke Peninsula. I am assuming this is the same place, just misspelt I can't find any town by that name, so my question is.............. Was it a small village/town in 1864 or was it the name of their sheep station? Thanks Tracey Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tracy <http://www.ga.gov.au/map/names/> gives Tarrara at 35.791S 139.668E. Entered in Google map search as - 35.791 139.668 gives the address as Symonds Rd, Field, SA 5265. Can't find Barara but it might be an abbreviation for Barraranna Neither are anywhere near the Yorke Peninsular. Regards Ian Westergaard On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:26:59 +1030, "Tracey Ives" <traceyives@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi,, > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there knows the Yorke Peninsula well, > especially around Moonta area. > > > > I have been going through the Adelaide Almanack for 1864 and Edmund was a > sheep farmer at Tarrara. > > > > On the Birth CD, is daughter Frances was born at Barara, Yorke Peninsula. > > > > I am assuming this is the same place, just misspelt > > > > I can't find any town by that name, so my question is.............. > > > > Was it a small village/town in 1864 or was it the name of their sheep > station? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tracey > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message