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    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] TRENOWDEN DEATH
    2. Tracey Ives
    3. HI Judy, If your grandparents had a will, you can go to the Supreme Court at 1 Gouger St, Adelaide (or ring them). The Probate Registry is located there. There are books you can search, if you find the right person, and you want to view what is in the file, you can fill in a form and they can do a search for you. It will cost about $17.00 per file. The file can consist of all sorts. Some of my relatives had just a probate and others contain the Will as well and others contained other bits and pieces. They will post out, but of course that will be extra cost. Sorry can help you with the coroners report Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Elliott Sent: Sunday, 3 April 2011 3:31 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] TRENOWDEN DEATH Whilst searching the newspapers on line I found in the Barrier Miner (Broken Hill) the coroner's report into the death of my g g uncle William Trenowden (Jan 9 1924 page 1) but unfortunately it is almost unreadable. Would there still be records kept of the coroner's reports in Broken Hill and if so where could I write to inquire about it. Also where in Adelaide can I go to get my grandparents wills? Hoping someone can help me. Cheers Judy AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2011 09:51:22
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] TRENOWDEN DEATH
    2. Judy Elliott
    3. Whilst searching the newspapers on line I found in the Barrier Miner (Broken Hill) the coroner's report into the death of my g g uncle William Trenowden (Jan 9 1924 page 1) but unfortunately it is almost unreadable. Would there still be records kept of the coroner's reports in Broken Hill and if so where could I write to inquire about it. Also where in Adelaide can I go to get my grandparents wills? Hoping someone can help me. Cheers Judy

    04/03/2011 09:31:23
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Children of Douglas Harry Black/Edna Christabel Wilson
    2. John Greenlees
    3. Hi Listers My biological father was a bit of a rogue and I am now trying to trace possible children of a reported second marriage. He never did marry my mother. I have a copy of a marriage certificate for Douglas Harry Black and Edna Christabel Wilson on 16th December 1948 at the Registry Office in Adelaide. The death certificate for Douglas indicates that there may have been one or two children from this marriage. Can anyone help with identifying birth details for these children please? Thanks John Greenlees

    04/02/2011 05:47:52
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand
    2. Marg M
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greenlees" <john@greenlees.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand > Hi Listers > > My wife has caught the "bug" and has decided to start tracing her family > tree. The key areas are Tasmania and New Zealand. Does anyone know of any > groups like ours that covers these areas please? > Hi John http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/ http://genforum.genealogy.com/regional/countries/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/hints.htm#Searchable http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper Or just ask Google Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

    04/02/2011 03:58:17
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand
    2. Tracey Ives
    3. Try these NZ sites http://www.coraweb.com.au/nzsites.htm#bdm http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ Tasmania http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/family_history -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Greenlees Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 5:49 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand Hi Listers My wife has caught the "bug" and has decided to start tracing her family tree. The key areas are Tasmania and New Zealand. Does anyone know of any groups like ours that covers these areas please? Thank you John Greenlees AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/02/2011 12:34:39
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand
    2. John Greenlees
    3. Hi Listers My wife has caught the "bug" and has decided to start tracing her family tree. The key areas are Tasmania and New Zealand. Does anyone know of any groups like ours that covers these areas please? Thank you John Greenlees

    04/02/2011 12:19:15
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Birth info
    2. Tracey Ives
    3. Hi Maxine, The Births go from 1842 to 1928 1842 to 1906 on CD 1 1907 to 1928 on CD 2 Regards Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of maxinej Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 4:33 PM To: AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Birth info Hi Listers How far do these births go for SA ... I know about the 1842 - 1906 but is a later one? Cheers Maxine AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/02/2011 10:37:10
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Birth info
    2. maxinej
    3. Hi Listers How far do these births go for SA ... I know about the 1842 - 1906 but is a later one? Cheers Maxine

    04/02/2011 10:33:18
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Charlotte Frances Palmer
    2. Pat Rawlings
    3. Could someone confirm for me that there was a child of this name born in Brighton Adelaide on 17 April 1850. Thanks for lookin for me. Cheers Pat

    04/02/2011 10:20:46
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Charlotte Frances Palmer
    2. Tracey Ives
    3. Sent Pat the info Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Rawlings Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 3:51 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Charlotte Frances Palmer Could someone confirm for me that there was a child of this name born in Brighton Adelaide on 17 April 1850. Thanks for lookin for me. Cheers Pat AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/02/2011 09:59:23
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Aubrey Arthur Butterworth
    2. Michael Lightfoot
    3. On Saturday 02 April 2011 11:25:47 Pat Rawlings wrote: > I am wondering if anyone can give the birth details on Aubrey Arthur > Butterworth who was born 27 November 1922 think. Any relation of Robert BUTTERWORTH b. 1865 d. 1921, son of John BUTTERWORTH. Robert married Kate RALPH in Maitland, S.A. in 1903. She was my g-aunt. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther, St Breock & Egloshayle, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

    04/02/2011 05:38:26
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Aubrey Arthur Butterworth
    2. Pat Rawlings
    3. I am wondering if anyone can give the birth details on Aubrey Arthur Butterworth who was born 27 November 1922 think. Cheers. Pat

    04/02/2011 05:25:47
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Fw: [TSL] *new* for TheShipsList website
    2. robert janmaat
    3. Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.htm http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAgermanindex.htm --- On Fri, 1/4/11, Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: [TSL] *new* for TheShipsList website To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Received: Friday, 1 April, 2011, 5:22 AM                         *new* for TheShipsList website                           http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows                      -------------->   <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page.  New for March 2011 is  . . .    o Fleets:       o West India & Pacific SS Company This is an interesting Fleet which operated from Liverpool to the West Indies, Mexico and Gulf ports.    o Passengers:       o Emigrant Orphans at Quebec and Montreal1847, Protestant and Catholic       o ...       o Quebec steamboats       o Waterloo - 26th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 6th August 1830       o Waterloo - 27th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 11th August 1830       o Waterloo - 28th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 14th August 1830       o Waterloo - 29th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 18th August 1830       o Waterloo - trip to Kamouraska & Murray Bay, 21st August 1830 .... pleasure trip       o Waterloo - 30th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 24th August 1830       o ...       o South Australia       o ship Morning Star, from Liverpool to Port Adelaide 14th February 1863       o ship Mary Shepherd, from Plymouth to Port Adelaide 18th April 1863 We had some 1847 Orphans at Quebec and Montreal in 1847, but I have added LOTS more, with many showing the name of the ship they had arrived on.   I also added two lists of adopted children.  Occasionally children who appeared to be siblings, were placed in the same home, but usually they were split up ... that is so difficult for us to imagine these days ... after they had already been through terrible trauma. Six more lists for the WATERLOO steamboat, from Quebec to Montreal in 1830, including another Pleasure trip to Kamouraska and Murray Bay. Still seeing Emigrants and a real tease of 55 passengers have their fare paid by the Captain of their ship "brig Deveron" from Greenock, but they are NOT named! The first two lists of "assisted" to South Australia for 1863.  Still seeing lots of single people on both lists, as in 1862.  The MORNING STAR (430+ passengers) is reported to have had a great passage, but there were 26 deaths !!!  The newspaper report was more concerned about what a fine vessel she was and an item about how a seaman fell overboard while hanging up his "smalls."  All of the passenger deaths, but one, were little ones as there had been an outbreak of measles. The MARY SHEPHERD (377+ passengers) also had a fine passage, but with no outbreak of illness. We now see 4 classes of emigrants ... General Emigrants = GE ; Assisted Passage = AP ; Remittance Emigrants = RE ; Colonial Nominees = CN Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy !! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/31/2011 02:43:03
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Mary Dorothy Smith
    2. Pat Rawlings
    3. I wonder if anyone can find a birth for Mary Dorothy Smith. I think she was born about 1854 at Two Wells South Australia. Cheers. Pat

    03/31/2011 12:53:13
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Thomas Beer Palmer
    2. Pat Rawlings
    3. A Huge thank you to all who answered my query on John Palmer and Elsie Baker. I am wondering if there is any record of his father thomas Beer Palmers death and what it says. Cheers again. Pat

    03/31/2011 12:46:31
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] John Albert Palmer and Elsie Rose Beatrice Baker
    2. Kylie Willison
    3. Sent Pat the marriage details. On 31/03/2011 2:52 PM, Pat Rawlings wrote: > Hi all, I am wondering if any one can give me a marriage date for this couple and perhaps some clues as to their parents. Cheers. Pat > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    03/31/2011 09:54:07
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] John Albert Palmer and Elsie Rose Beatrice Baker
    2. Pat Rawlings
    3. Hi all, I am wondering if any one can give me a marriage date for this couple and perhaps some clues as to their parents. Cheers. Pat

    03/31/2011 09:22:36
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] pfennig
    2. Maureen M Leadbeater
    3. Hi Robyn My database "South Australian Naturalizations 1839-1903" http://www.ach.familyhistorysa.info/naturalizations.html has an entry for Heinrich Christian Julius PFENNIG, native of Laudenthal [Lautenthal], Kingdom of Hanover, Germany. Aged 23 y 9 m, miner of Kooringa [Burra], he applied for naturalization 14-11-1852 having been in SA 2 y 6 m. He took the oath of allegiance 8-12-1852. Sources: Govt Gazette 19-3-1857 and National Archives file A821. The NAA have digitized some naturalization records and you can view online his Memorial (application) and Certificate of Naturalization. [Note: NAA has his surname indexed as PFENNING] Lautenthal is a town in the Harz Mountains near Goslar. Quite a number of Germans came to SA from there, including 3 other PFENNIGs in my database. Bye Maureen M Leadbeater Adelaide Co-operative History http://www.ach.familyhistorysa.info/

    03/31/2011 04:49:27
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Thomas Beer Palmer
    2. ian simon
    3. Reply with information sent off list. ian in perth On Thu Mar 31 15:46 , "Pat Rawlings" sent: >A Huge thank you to all who answered my query on John Palmer and Elsie Baker. I am wondering if there is any record of his father thomas Beer Palmers death and what it says. Cheers again. Pat >AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > >Websites of Interest on our Blog: >http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >)

    03/31/2011 02:37:27
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Mary Dorothy Smith
    2. ian simon
    3. Replied to Pat with information off list. ian in perth On Thu Mar 31 15:53 , "Pat Rawlings" sent: >I wonder if anyone can find a birth for Mary Dorothy Smith. I think she was born about 1854 at Two Wells South Australia. Cheers. Pat >AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > >Websites of Interest on our Blog: >http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/31/2011 02:34:02