For full details of this event, please contact Christina Benson on the email below. Contact - Christina Benson: sunnisides@optusnet.com.au GILES FAMILY REUNION 8-9 OCTOBER 2011 After the years of research, talking and planning, this exciting family reunion is not far away and at this point we need firm commitments for attendance in Adelaide and orders for your family books. Given that we are descendants of Edward and Elizabeth GILES, for simplicity the reunion has been named Giles, yet includes large families of Matthews, Aldersey, Francis and others. I hope you will be able to attend all events but of course are welcome to attend as many as you would like and suggest that every family member orders our book “A History of Descendants of Edward and Elizabeth Giles and their families in Australia, 1839-2011”.

Hi Listers Information was requested about Harry Robinson who had left his wife and 4 children destitute in Durban, South Africa. For a short time he worked at Wallaroo Smelting Works. He intended to leave for Sydney and thence San Francisco. One may well wonder where in the world he went and what happened to his family. This is just one of many intriguing entries of deserters, missing persons and absconders found in the SA Police Gazettes. Further years have been added to the database "Persons Lost & Found" which now covers 1838-1910. http://www.ach.familyhistorysa.info/deserters.html Bye Maureen M Leadbeater Adelaide Co-operative History www.ach.familyhistorysa.info

On 5/04/2011 8:29 PM, Alan Richards wrote: > Hi All, > > I have spent weeks now looking for the date of arrival and the name of the ship my GGGrandparents John and Louisa Richards came to Australia in. > Have you seen this entry. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38436961 ?searchTerm=richards louisa&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||fromdd=01|||frommm=01|||fromyyyy=1850|||todd=31|||tomm=12|||toyyyy=1852|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby Regards Stan

Hi All, I have spent weeks now looking for the date of arrival and the name of the ship my GGGrandparents John and Louisa Richards came to Australia in. I have purchased both their death certificates that indicate that they were married in London in 1850. Thier first child was born in Geelong in Victoria in 1852 so i presume they came to Australia in 1851. I have checked the 1852-1923 shipping lists and they do not appear there. I have also gone to the Australian Shipping, Shipping Lists - N.S.W., the Ship Lists site and Trove with no success. I have spent many, many hours perusing the Trove site inserting "Richards" but each time i try to refine the search by adding John and Louisa's names and also shipping i only seem to increase the available possibilities. I have inserted the "Argus" newspaper but still get all the newspapers. Could somebody please offer me advice when searching Trove as to the best possible text for me to insert to limit the number of entries to search, as at the moment i am trying to search thousands of possibilities and are going crazy. Thanks Alan

sent birth details to Doug.....Ros On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Doug Norton <dougnval.norton@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > I am wanting birth date to complete a grave record. > > John Kirk Jones died Hamilton NZ, 28/4/1921 aged 25, so about 1896 birth. > >From attestation papers - born Koolunga, and father Joseph Jones. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Doug Norton > Hamilton > New Zealand > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <chedoona@beagle.com.au> To: "Doug Norton" <dougnval.norton@paradise.net.nz> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] John Kirk Jones > cheers > Lyn > > Digger - South Australian Births 1842-1906 (c) SAGHS > > Surname: JONES > Given Names: John Kirk > Date: 1895-05-24 > Sex: M > Father: Joseph JONES > Mother: Clementina KIRK > Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Koolunga > District Code: Cla > Symbol: > Book: 565 > Page: 124 > Cross Reference: > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Doug Norton" <dougnval.norton@paradise.net.nz> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:31 PM > To: "SA Mailing List" <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] John Kirk Jones > >> I am wanting birth date to complete a grave record. >> >> John Kirk Jones died Hamilton NZ, 28/4/1921 aged 25, so about 1896 birth. >>>From attestation papers - born Koolunga, and father Joseph Jones. >> >> Thanks in anticipation. >> >> Doug Norton >> Hamilton >> New Zealand >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

If anyone is researching this family please contact me off list. I have some grave site photos to share. Doug and Val Norton Hamilton New Zealand

I am wanting birth date to complete a grave record. John Kirk Jones died Hamilton NZ, 28/4/1921 aged 25, so about 1896 birth. >From attestation papers - born Koolunga, and father Joseph Jones. Thanks in anticipation. Doug Norton Hamilton New Zealand

There is no reference to this or the people concerned in The History and Topography of Glen Osmond dated 1905. At least it rules out a possibility. Doug Norton Hamilton New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> To: "SA Mailing List" <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:02 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Sentence for Manslaughter 1848 > Hello Listers > > From a newspaper report, a friend of mine has found out that > James SNOW aged 22, an employee of Glen Osmond Mine and her ggf's brother, > was on trial in South Australia in May-June 1848 for the manslaughter of > Edmund OLLIVER. We haven't found a later paper (through Trove) with the > 'end > of the story' in it. From the tenor of the reports found, it seems quite > likely that he was convicted. > > Can anyone point us in the right direction to find the length > of > his sentence please? Are there Government papers available that would > cover > this? My friend is trying to work out if an 1855 marriage in England was > his - he came from Cornwall to Australia - or if his length of sentence > made > this impossible. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Many thanks. > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, R.J. Finlaysons butter wrapped in a white paper, was purchaseable in most grocery shops in Adelaide and had a good reputation. regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian simon" <ians@iinet.net.au> To: "SAGEN" <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com>; "jane" <jane5ok@yahoo.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Butter Factory at Balaklava > Hi Jane > > > Quoting from "Balaklava Change and Challenge" compiled by The Balaklava > Centenary Book Committee, 1977 > > p97 > "In 1911 Mr. R. J. Finlayson of Owen, built and operated a butter, ice and > cool drink factory in Balaklava. Besides prospering as a business, this > enterprise was a great asset to the district as it catered for a large > area > around Balaklava. Butter made at this factory, produced from local cream, > won many prizes including champioships both in Australia and overseas." > > and on page 91 > > "Mr. Middleton later .... take over the Balaklava Dairy." (sometime > after > 1912) > > I suggest you try TROVE for articles and advertising. > > Ian in Perth > > > > On Mon Apr 4 18:38 , jane sent: > >>Hello, >> >>I am looking for information on the butter factory that was once at >>Balaklava. Any help would be appreciated. >> >>Thank you >>Jane >>AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >>Websites of Interest on our Blog: >>http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mrs Gloria Sims <simsgl@senet.com.au> Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:53 AM Subject: [ASYORKE] DICKESON FAMILY To: "AUS-SA-YORKE@rootsw" <AUS-SA-YORKE@rootsweb.com> I  am  attempting  to  research  my  Dickeson  family  line.   I  am a  descendant  of  JOSEPH*  DICKESON   :   born  Circa  1710  London England  :  Married  Grace  nee  Eyre  Circa  1734. They  had  7  children  -  Joseph  :  Elizabeth  :  Valentine  : Ambrose  :  Thomas  :  William  :  Joshua**  :  John  Henry***  and Millicent.  Joseph*  died  1784  London  England. My  line  is  from  Joshua**  -  it  was  his  Great  Grandson, Joshua  James  Dickeson,  who  came  to  Australia  Circa  1850's As  well  as  Joshua  James  Dickeson,  I  believe  that  there  were at  least  2  other  Dickeson  family  members  that  also  came  out to  Australia........... ?  When. #  Thomas  Dickeson   ~    [brother  of  Joshua  James]   -  born Circa  1830  Newington  Surrey  England  -  died  1894  @  St  Arnaurd  Victoria  -  Did  not  marry. #  Mark  Dickeson  ~  born  Circa  1846  Surrey  England  and  died 1916  Adelaide  South  Australia.  Mark  Dickeson  was  the  son  of Ambrose   Dickeson  /  Grandson  of  John  Henry *** Dickeson  / Great  Grandson  of  Joseph*  Dickeson. Do  any  of  these  names  connect  with  your  Dickeson  interests  ? Look  forward  to  hearing  from  you. Cheers  . . . . . . . .  Gloria ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SA-YORKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane Quoting from "Balaklava Change and Challenge" compiled by The Balaklava Centenary Book Committee, 1977 p97 "In 1911 Mr. R. J. Finlayson of Owen, built and operated a butter, ice and cool drink factory in Balaklava. Besides prospering as a business, this enterprise was a great asset to the district as it catered for a large area around Balaklava. Butter made at this factory, produced from local cream, won many prizes including champioships both in Australia and overseas." and on page 91 "Mr. Middleton later .... take over the Balaklava Dairy." (sometime after 1912) I suggest you try TROVE for articles and advertising. Ian in Perth On Mon Apr 4 18:38 , jane sent: >Hello, > >I am looking for information on the butter factory that was once at >Balaklava. Any help would be appreciated. > >Thank you >Jane >AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > >Websites of Interest on our Blog: >http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I am looking for information on the butter factory that was once at Balaklava. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Jane

Hello Listers From a newspaper report, a friend of mine has found out that James SNOW aged 22, an employee of Glen Osmond Mine and her ggf's brother, was on trial in South Australia in May-June 1848 for the manslaughter of Edmund OLLIVER. We haven't found a later paper (through Trove) with the 'end of the story' in it. From the tenor of the reports found, it seems quite likely that he was convicted. Can anyone point us in the right direction to find the length of his sentence please? Are there Government papers available that would cover this? My friend is trying to work out if an 1855 marriage in England was his - he came from Cornwall to Australia - or if his length of sentence made this impossible. Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks. Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Several years ago, I was given a copy of a photograph which was displayed in the Red Hill Museum (Sth Aust) It is a group of 10 men (2 rows of five) who may well have been the "Red Hill Chamber of Commerce" One man is obviously the local butcher I would be very grateful to find out further details of this photograph, as my ggrandfather is one of the 10 men Regards Chris Pycroft (nee GWYNNE) Port Augusta, Sth Aust

Thank you to everyone who helped me out re my enquires. Cheers Judy

Also there's a rootsweb list for New Zealand. We read and write to it just like this one. ;-) cheers Graham Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand From: "John Greenlees" <john@greenlees.com.au> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:19:15 +1100 To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Hi Listers My wife has caught the "bug" and has decided to start tracing her family tree. The key areas are Tasmania and New Zealand. Does anyone know of any groups like ours that covers these areas please? Thank you John Greenlees

Thankyou Tracey and Leita for letting me know that there is a later SA birth CD 1907 to 1928. Cheers Maxine

Hi List I've been in the Tasmanian rootsweb list for a number of years and found people extremely helpful. In addition to finding a lot of info about my family, I can't tell you how much I've learnt about Tasmanian history just by reading the messages, even when not directly relevant to my own research! For info see: AUS-Tasmania Mailing List Information Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~austashs/ Contact Admin AUS-Tasmania-Admin@rootsweb.com Cheers Karen Groeneveld Queanbeyan NSW -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Ives [mailto:traceyives@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 7:05 PM To: 'John Greenlees'; AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb. com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand Try these NZ sites http://www.coraweb.com.au/nzsites.htm#bdm http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ Tasmania http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/family_history -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Greenlees Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2011 5:49 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Research Tasmania and New Zealand Hi Listers My wife has caught the "bug" and has decided to start tracing her family tree. The key areas are Tasmania and New Zealand. Does anyone know of any groups like ours that covers these areas please? Thank you John Greenlees AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

William Smith and Caroline Pitman married in 1845 Adelaide, South Australia. They did not have parents on the certificate. I wonder if they can be found in the Biographical Index of SA. Smith is such a sod of a name I think I might be stuck. Did they die in SA? Cheers. Pat