It is with a great deal of sadness that I advise that Di Cummings passed away on Tuesday June 24, 2014 in Melbourne. The SA Genealogical world will be forever grateful for the work that Di did with regard to recording and publishing Shipping details of our Pioneers into SA from 1836. Ros Dunstall List Admin

Have not had any mail from this list for some time so am seeing if this comes through, Chris in W.A.

Hi Listers, Wondering if anyone has Gazette’s for these two years please? Steph.

Good Moring Can any please tell me if their Ancestry.com.au is working this morning I cannot get it to open at all? Thankyou [Yes I paid my dues] Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY [email protected] O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterborne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org ..,'~._|\, ,/Australia\ \_,-----\*,_,/ *

Greetings all A further update from theshiplist. Regards Robert. Adelaide     Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theshipslist.com&#x2F;ships&#x2F;australia&#x2F;SAassistedindex.shtml http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theshipslist.com&#x2F;ships&#x2F;australia&#x2F;SAgermanindex.shtml ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Susan Swiggum <[email protected]> To: TheShipsList <[email protected]>; Robert Janmaat <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 9 June 2014 2:27 AM Subject: *new* for TheShipsList website                           *new* for TheShipsList website                             http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows                           --------------> <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page.  New for May 2014 is . . .   o Passengers:     o Quebec Steamboats       o St. Lawrence - 15th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 15th July 1831       o John Molson - 14th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 17th July 1831       o Chambly - 14th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 21st July 1831       o     o South Australia       o ship St. Vincent, from London via Plymouth to Port Adelaide November 5th, 1874       o barque, Dinapore, from London via Cape Town to Port Adelaide November 26th, 1874       o ship City of Benares, from London to Port Adelaide December 20th, 1874 Three more Quebec steamboat passenger list for 1831.  The JOHN MOLSON is the favourite this time, with well over 700 passengers. I included images for two names and I'm hoping some can chime in with some suggestions, even if you don't have any 1831 settlers. The last three assisted passenger lists for SA for 1874. Once again, lots of really interesting immigrants.  The ST. VINCENT even has a couple of Chelsea pensioners, one identified,with children born all over the place. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy !! Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/

Thank you to those people who responded to my request for help regarding SA births of men who enlisted in the 39th Battalion and who were living in the Ballarat area in 1916. It was greatly appreciated. Robyn Sent from my iPad

Hello Robyn My uncles.. George Thomas POVEY & Frederick Charles BURGESS... both from S-W Victoria served in France with the 39th Battalion. Are you aware of the book (200 copies only)... "We Were the 46th" by Ian Polanski, published 1999. Regards Daryl Povey At 05:00 PM 12/06/2014, you wrote: >From: "Robyn Coates" <[email protected]> >To: "South Australian Gen Group" <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:04:36 +1000 >Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] birth dates of 39th battalion members > >Hello List Members > >I am currently doing some research on the 39th Battalion (1st WW) and >wondered if someone could supply me with births and parents of the following >enlistees who were members of the 39th. > >Any other information would also be helpful. > >My grandfather was a member of the 39th and it has always been an interest >of mine and I have been fortunate to visit the Somme and Ieper-Passchendale >areas where so much of the battalion's action took place. > >If anyone has an interest in the 39th Battalion, I would be pleased to make >contact with you. > >At the moment I am working on people who were living in the Ballarat area >but hope to extend my research. > >These dates may not be accurate as I have found that much information on the >enlistment forms is incorrect. > >Bott Thomas Edward Adelaide 1872 > >Hebb Frederick George Port Adelaide 1896 > >Lenton Roy Manderville Enfield 1888 > >Miller Henry Port >Adelaide 1872 > >Thanks in anticipation. > >Robyn

Thanks Reg for the suggestions. I have checked him out at naa.gov.au and also at the awm.gov.au. I have found the enlistment papers fascinating as are the diaries online and I have a copy of the history of the 39th. I have transcribed the embarkation rolls, including the reinforcements which is nearly 3000 names and so looked at many of the enlistment papers. When I couldn't find a Port Adelaide in Victoria or him in any of the Victorian BDMs I assumed it must be Port Adelaide in SA. I have found so many 'mistruths' in these documents where they signed saying it was the truth and that is just in checking the Ballarat members of the Battalion in more detail. Ages are the worst. Especially when they were older men they put their ages down. Appreciate you taking the time to help. Robyn Sent from my iPad > On 12 Jun 2014, at 6:11 pm, "Reg Bonney" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Robyn > > I note that Lyn has provided details for the first 3 on your list below. I > have had a quick look at WWI service files on NAA and consider that Henry > Miller is Service No. 1862 who was in the 2nd Reinforcements to the 39th. He > was born Port Adelaide Victoria (as per service record!) and his n-o-k was > wife Helen. > Check him out. > Regards > Reg Bonney in suburban Sydney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robyn Coates [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 4:05 PM > To: South Australian Gen Group > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] birth dates of 39th battalion members > > Hello List Members > > I am currently doing some research on the 39th Battalion (1st WW) and > wondered if someone could supply me with births and parents of the following > enlistees who were members of the 39th. > > Any other information would also be helpful. > > My grandfather was a member of the 39th and it has always been an interest > of mine and I have been fortunate to visit the Somme and Ieper-Passchendale > areas where so much of the battalion's action took place. > > If anyone has an interest in the 39th Battalion, I would be pleased to make > contact with you. > > At the moment I am working on people who were living in the Ballarat area > but hope to extend my research. > > > > These dates may not be accurate as I have found that much information on the > enlistment forms is incorrect. > > > > Bott Thomas Edward Adelaide 1872 > > Hebb Frederick George Port Adelaide 1896 > > Lenton Roy Manderville Enfield 1888 > > Miller Henry Port > Adelaide 1872 > > > > Thanks in anticipation. > > > > Robyn > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 6263 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan > http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen >

Hi Robyn I note that Lyn has provided details for the first 3 on your list below. I have had a quick look at WWI service files on NAA and consider that Henry Miller is Service No. 1862 who was in the 2nd Reinforcements to the 39th. He was born Port Adelaide Victoria (as per service record!) and his n-o-k was wife Helen. Check him out. Regards Reg Bonney in suburban Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Robyn Coates [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2014 4:05 PM To: South Australian Gen Group Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] birth dates of 39th battalion members Hello List Members I am currently doing some research on the 39th Battalion (1st WW) and wondered if someone could supply me with births and parents of the following enlistees who were members of the 39th. Any other information would also be helpful. My grandfather was a member of the 39th and it has always been an interest of mine and I have been fortunate to visit the Somme and Ieper-Passchendale areas where so much of the battalion's action took place. If anyone has an interest in the 39th Battalion, I would be pleased to make contact with you. At the moment I am working on people who were living in the Ballarat area but hope to extend my research. These dates may not be accurate as I have found that much information on the enlistment forms is incorrect. Bott Thomas Edward Adelaide 1872 Hebb Frederick George Port Adelaide 1896 Lenton Roy Manderville Enfield 1888 Miller Henry Port Adelaide 1872 Thanks in anticipation. Robyn -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 6263 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

info sent except for Henry Miller Lyn

Hello List Members I am currently doing some research on the 39th Battalion (1st WW) and wondered if someone could supply me with births and parents of the following enlistees who were members of the 39th. Any other information would also be helpful. My grandfather was a member of the 39th and it has always been an interest of mine and I have been fortunate to visit the Somme and Ieper-Passchendale areas where so much of the battalion's action took place. If anyone has an interest in the 39th Battalion, I would be pleased to make contact with you. At the moment I am working on people who were living in the Ballarat area but hope to extend my research. These dates may not be accurate as I have found that much information on the enlistment forms is incorrect. Bott Thomas Edward Adelaide 1872 Hebb Frederick George Port Adelaide 1896 Lenton Roy Manderville Enfield 1888 Miller Henry Port Adelaide 1872 Thanks in anticipation. Robyn

Also check SWAN as an alternative too David. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Freda <[email protected]> wrote: > Try West Tce cemetery link below as at least one of them (Gustav) shows up > there > > http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/RecordsSearch.aspx < > > Try Gawler council at email [email protected] for the one who died > in > Gawler, they may be able to assist you. > > > regards > Freda > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID ROEDIGER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:52 AM > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] (no subject) > > > Hi friends on AUS-SAGEN, > I have: > 1. Gustav Hermann Franz SCHWAN died 22nd January 1877 at East Terrace > Adelaide SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place- Any ideas > please? > 2. Alfred Richard Paul SCHWAN died 17th April 1890 at Gawler SA- His wife > Annie Sarah SCHWAN died 30th November 1936 at Bloomsbury Street Hyde Park > SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place - any ideas please? > 3. I have Frederick Edmund BESTEL born 24th November 1880 at Adelaide SA - > I > have been unable to locate any marriage, death or burial info - Any ideas > please? > 4. I have Hermann James Iwan SCHWAN died 10th December 1857 at Adelaide SA > and his sister Elise Friderike SCHWAN died 24th October 1859 at Adelaide > SA. > I have been unable to locate burial records-Any ideas please? > > Many thanks > David > > > David Roediger > 26 Sixth Street > MORGAN SA 5320 > > Mobile 0488 40 2597 > Skype - [email protected] > > > This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains > information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the > intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the > contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please > notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or > links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No > representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning > is > recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Try West Tce cemetery link below as at least one of them (Gustav) shows up there > http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/RecordsSearch.aspx < Try Gawler council at email [email protected] for the one who died in Gawler, they may be able to assist you. regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID ROEDIGER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:52 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] (no subject) Hi friends on AUS-SAGEN, I have: 1. Gustav Hermann Franz SCHWAN died 22nd January 1877 at East Terrace Adelaide SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place- Any ideas please? 2. Alfred Richard Paul SCHWAN died 17th April 1890 at Gawler SA- His wife Annie Sarah SCHWAN died 30th November 1936 at Bloomsbury Street Hyde Park SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place - any ideas please? 3. I have Frederick Edmund BESTEL born 24th November 1880 at Adelaide SA - I have been unable to locate any marriage, death or burial info - Any ideas please? 4. I have Hermann James Iwan SCHWAN died 10th December 1857 at Adelaide SA and his sister Elise Friderike SCHWAN died 24th October 1859 at Adelaide SA. I have been unable to locate burial records-Any ideas please? Many thanks David David Roediger 26 Sixth Street MORGAN SA 5320 Mobile 0488 40 2597 Skype - [email protected] This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi friends on AUS-SAGEN, I have: 1. Gustav Hermann Franz SCHWAN died 22nd January 1877 at East Terrace Adelaide SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place- Any ideas please? 2. Alfred Richard Paul SCHWAN died 17th April 1890 at Gawler SA- His wife Annie Sarah SCHWAN died 30th November 1936 at Bloomsbury Street Hyde Park      SA - I have been unable to locate a burial place - any ideas please? 3. I have Frederick Edmund BESTEL born 24th November 1880 at Adelaide SA - I have been unable to locate any  marriage, death or burial info - Any ideas    please?  4. I have Hermann James Iwan SCHWAN died 10th December 1857 at Adelaide SA and his sister Elise Friderike SCHWAN died 24th October 1859 at Adelaide    SA. I have been unable to locate burial records-Any ideas please? Many thanks David      David Roediger 26 Sixth Street MORGAN   SA  5320 Mobile  0488 40 2597 Skype - [email protected] This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the  intended recipient please do not read, save, forward, disclose, or copy the contents of this email. If this email has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete this email and any copies or links to this email completely and immediately from your system. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient.

Good Evening Listers, I have been given a family tree of William Henry Britton and his wife Mary Robertson and I'm trying to verify the information. It's says that Elizabeth Britton was born in South Australia in 1849, my great grandfather Thomas Britton was born in 1852. I can't find Elizabeth's birth and I was hoping that someone could help me locate it. I do know that Elizabeth married Alexander Kedzley/lie, I believe that is correct as a. Lot of family names have been used. Thanks in advance Marion Sydney Sent from my iPad

Just thinking, 'some' military types did travel with their 'women'. -----Original Message----- From: Barry Brown Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 5:25 PM To: 'Morley' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Help needed please (Jonathan Fredk Nelson) OK. The censuses say USA or Foreign Parts, but there is that one spurious reference to Alderney in 1851. Did the enumerator mishear, what else could that be, or could he be a naturalized American born in Alderney? One of those removals orders dated 1858 also says that he came from America (so I suspect that is right) and gave the right date for his marriage. The witnesses to their marriage in 1810 were Mary Ann Payton, John Bugg & Sarah Bugg -it might be worth looking to see if they appear with any of the family in the censuses, in case they were related. There is yet another removals order related to them, dated 1860. One daughter, their 6th child, was baptized later that the other children, Elizabeth Keziah Nelson bapt 16 May 1819 Hackney St John (their address then was address West Street). She may be the Elizabeth Nelson buried 11 Feb 1820 Gibralter cemetery, Bethnal Green aged 9 months. So if Jonathan Frederick Nelson did come from USA, it must have been in the window of time 1781 to 1810 - either alone, or with his parents. I haven't found any travel records for that name at that time. I had a cursory look in Ancestry USA, I couldn't find any birth records, nor naturalization documents that would immediately fit. Good luck with your ongoing search. rgds, Barry AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marion I note from Ancestry family trees the Elizabeth Harriett Britton was married in Victoria. I suggest you buy that certificate online as a noncertified copy (cost is about $20) as Victorian certificates can be very informative with date and place of birth plus parents names and residence. Her death certificate in NSW may be informative as well. Cheers Ian in Perth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Wakeford" To:"[email protected]" Cc: Sent:Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:54:09 +1000 Subject:[AUS-SAGEN] Elizabeth Britton, Good Evening Listers, I have been given a family tree of William Henry Britton and his wife Mary Robertson and I'm trying to verify the information. It's says that Elizabeth Britton was born in South Australia in 1849, my great grandfather Thomas Britton was born in 1852. I can't find Elizabeth's birth and I was hoping that someone could help me locate it. I do know that Elizabeth married Alexander Kedzley/lie, I believe that is correct as a. Lot of family names have been used. Thanks in advance Marion Sydney Sent from my iPad AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lyn The district code is the registration district the event was registered in. In this case you are correct that it is Clare which commenced in 1855. Cheers Ian in Perth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:04:13 +1000 Subject:[AUS-SAGEN] District: Cla ?? On the CDs what would be the name of this district please. Clare ???? Birth Place/Residence: Georgetown District Code: Cla cheers Lyn AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lyn They are hundreds near Peterborough. If you go to the propertyassist  website, zoom into ther Peterborough area, click on layers and add the magenta hundreds boundaries you should be able to see the labels and boundaries. http://maps.sa.gov.au/plb/ Cheers Ian in Perth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:11:31 +1000 Subject:[AUS-SAGEN] placename Here are 2 others I need help with please cheers Lyn Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Yongala and Hd of Mannanarie AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are 2 others I need help with please cheers Lyn Birth Place/Residence: Hd of Yongala and Hd of Mannanarie