As I said to Leita and Rowena What makes me laugh is that all I said is that poor man - no names or race was mentioned- you have all turned my first letter into a racial argument- shame on you all we as family historians are suppose to believe this was how we do it? the list then took my comments as racial - I think they are racial -I do not see colour in people just names- god know I am not a bit racial and I will take action against anyone who says I am - this I mean Before you comment read my first email to the list I want honestly in my trees not Ancestry.com made up stories - that sell subscriptions to their web site. Some people including you have read all I said absolutely wrong - If this was about anyone else nobody would have said anything about my comments I wonder who is racial and who just want the truth in Family History What happened to sanity- Jill -----Original Message----- From: Rowena Gough via Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Who Do You Think You Are Good on you Leita, Well said. I think one has to be open minded with regard to the television programs tracing family history. They do the best job that they can to entertain, to generate public interest, and to show that it is possible to trace your family (and generate more subscribers to Ancestry). I cannot imagine how difficult, frustrating and distressing it may be for folk with aboriginal roots to find information. Including their stories in these programs is incredibly important for our understanding of ourselves as a large nation with a rich, complex and somewhat troubled history. Now, can we put the discussion of this program to a close? Kind regards to all, Rowena AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Medley via" <[email protected]> To: "South Australian Gene" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Dating a photograph. > Hi > I was wondering if anyone out there has much of a clue on how > to date a > photograph, that appears to be taken in the mid 1800's > I have looked on the web without much success. Hi Steve Are you sure about dating from the mid 1800s ? Photography was in its infancy then. Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

Genealogy SA at 201 Unley Road, Unley has a book or two on dating photos I think as would the state library perhaps you could try those places first other family history professional researchers on line profess to be able to date photos too in South Australia For others of you on this list if you havn't been to Genealogy SA at Unley ever or even recently the amount of material and computers you can use as a visitor or a member is mind boggling they are subscribed to at least 5 different online pay web sites that I know of and it will only cost you about 15 dollars for a 3 hour visit (you get about 600 dollars worth of pay sites to use for a 1/2 days visitors fee or join up for a year for 100 dollars - If you want to know more about the tons of info that is at Genealogy SA and not on line yet send me a email - the volunteers are very helpful too and knowledgeable John H Day -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Medley via Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2014 1:41 PM To: South Australian Gene Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Dating a photograph. Hi I was wondering if anyone out there has much of a clue on how to date a photograph, that appears to be taken in the mid 1800's I have looked on the web without much success. Thanks Steve AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again! Sorry I've got another look up request, I really need to buy these cds myself one of these days! I'm trying to pinpoint who a close family friend was. Her name was Maria Ann Rabbit. She was the Godmother of one of my family members in 1885. I presume she was probably about the same age as the parents, so born around 1850-1860. If she was unmarried she would have married shortly after 1885 I would imagine and if she had already married it probably would have been 1870-1885. She would have lived in the Mitcham, Goodwood area of Adelaide. I would really appreciate a look up for anything in the index's on her, I've hit a dead end with my ancestor so I'm hoping that if I can gather enough information about her community/close friends etc it might help turn something up. It'd be great to learn more about the Godmother anyway even if it doesn't help in the long run! Thanks so much, Tam

Hello Steve, Are you lucky enough to have the name of the photographer/studio on the back or even on the front of the photo? You could look on TROVE to find the years of operation. If it's a South Australian photograph you may find this link helpful http://www.artgallery.sa.gov.au/noye/Photogs/A_small.htm although there were many more photographers than listed here. If there's no photographer or studio noted then clothing styles would be worth a try although not terribly exact. Do you have any clues to the subjects of the photos? Perhaps you could upload it to one of the popular photo websites so members of the group could offer suggestions. Good luck Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Medley via" <[email protected]> To: "South Australian Gene" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:41 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Dating a photograph. > Hi > I was wondering if anyone out there has much of a clue on how to date a > photograph, that appears to be taken in the mid 1800's > I have looked on the web without much success. > Thanks > Steve

"Who do you think you are" has done a tremendous amount to popularise interest in genealogy for the masses. The producers obviously seek to maximise interest for the viewer by creating a story line that takes short cuts. Nevertheless, we who have a genuine interest and do the hard research, should welcome the exposure that the program provides, albeit it's commercial nature. Regards, Richard Sent from my iPad > On 13 Aug 2014, at 6:07 pm, emmjaye via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > I enjoyed watching this and like Marg has said it was pure entertainment and what a fine young man he is. > > Adam Goodes I salute you. > > cheers > Emm > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, I enjoyed watching this and like Marg has said it was pure entertainment and what a fine young man he is. Adam Goodes I salute you. cheers Emm --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Entertainment for sure Marg, I wonder how many celebrities they research before choosing the ones 'that' might have the most impact on viewers. Wouldn't we all love to get in amongst those wonderful record rooms, I salivate every episode I watch. cheers Lyn

Exactly pure entertainment and what a fine young man he is. Adam Goodes I salute you. cheers Emm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn via" <[email protected]> To: "AUS - SAGEN" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] What is Family History > Entertainment for sure Marg, I wonder how many celebrities they research > before choosing the ones 'that' might have the most impact on viewers. > Wouldn't we all love to get in amongst those wonderful record rooms, I > salivate every episode I watch. > cheers > Lyn > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "D & J MORLEY via" <[email protected]> To: "AUS - SAGEN" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:15 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] What is Family History > After last night episode of 'Who do you think you are' > I can only say - Poppy cock to the - Walter Watson Hughes - I > do not not > believe this and if the Adelaide > museum wants to try and palm this bit of rubbish as Family > History then > what the heck do they have in their collection - who can > believe the museum > now? Have they heard of DNA > I have just about had enough of that show and the bull they are > pushing to > the public > History should be the TRUTH Hi Jill I find interesting that someone rocks up the main steps of the Mitchell Library in Sydney and be greeted by the State Librarian ......... Or last week rocked up at State Records out at Kingswood NSW and an archivist has already got a huge ledger opened at the right page . It just doesnt happen .WDYTYA is entertainment full stop ....... Very pleasant entertainment . Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

Thanks again Lyn! It really helped me narrow it down with the ages given, I really appreciate it! Tam

I agree Suzy, I am sure they only choose searches that will have an impact. Lyn

Hi I was wondering if anyone out there has much of a clue on how to date a photograph, that appears to be taken in the mid 1800's I have looked on the web without much success. Thanks Steve

Well have read all the comments regarding last nights program Adam Goode First of all think about it aren't we lucky to be white Australians and have all or most of our family's BMD registered so that we can trace our Ancestors I know how difficult it is to trace Family Lines for our Aboriginal population as a researcher in the Upper North of our State I am often asked to do this Unfortunately until well after 1900 Registration was not done or deemed necessary for or by many of these people and if a Death was registered it was most likely i.e. Jimmy Aboriginal If a Birth was Registered especially with a white fathers the mother was only listed by her Christian (quite often European not her tribal name) name then Aboriginal. I did research for this particular program on Jessie and while there could have been many stories woven about her the program only reported the known facts which were few, so how do we know what they reported about other Ancestors of Adam was not true. Sorry if I've upset some people Don't often mail the list in this way Cheers Leita

Hello : ) I would love help to find the following marriages if possible please, I know it's the worst surname ever to look up!!! FATHER THOMAS SMITH MARRIAGES FOR HIS CHILDREN: (MARRIED 1870-1895) THOMAS WILLIAM GEORGE ALFRED MATILDA LOUISA HERBERT Thanks, Tam

Have sent Jill some photos of the monument. -----Original Message----- From: D & J MORLEY [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:49 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Mount Gambier Monuments Good Morning can anyone tell me of there is a web site that may have a picture of a monument in Mount Gambier in 1875 ...

Just a note to say I have the picture of the Grave - Monument Paula Kindly sent me today What a sad thing Thankyou Paula very very appreciated Jill

Me too. I have a distant cousin who is relatively new to research. Doesn't listen. Never verifies. Takes newspaper accounts as gospel. Immediately agrees with whatever someone new says whether it Dan be proven or not. Draws very long bows. arrrrrrrgh. After building on 30 years of proven research with almost 20 of my own it drives me nuts!!!!! I love watching the show but get cranky with some very long bows drawn. Verify once. Verify twice with a different source and once more if you can be for I say "most probably " is my motto. I am not referring to genuine mistakes but to sloppy research that can be be corrected by due diligence. Noeleen Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Aug 2014, at 10:12 am, "CHRISTINE ROBYN via" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am with you all the way on this program Jill. > > My favourite motto within Family History is... > > > GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY > > > Chris Pycroft (nee GWYNNE) Port Augusta SA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > I am sorry if you people cannot read >> I am not mad at any person I am mad at the show itself and the so called >> facts >> READ My letter >> >> Jill > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7239 - Release Date: 03/24/14 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with you Jill. When the show is good, it is very good. I think it is victim of its own success. I have felt for a while that emotions appear to be far more important that the product (family history). Some of the people in the program seem to be 'acting' a role instead of being themselves ... being what they think they should be for the audience. It also looks to me as if the searches are selected for impact. But that's television! regards to all Suzy

I am with you all the way on this program Jill. My favourite motto within Family History is... GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY Chris Pycroft (nee GWYNNE) Port Augusta SA ----- Original Message ----- > I am sorry if you people cannot read > I am not mad at any person I am mad at the show itself and the so called > facts > READ My letter > > Jill > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7239 - Release Date: 03/24/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date.