Hi Chris, My great uncle Ron McPherson was KIA in El Alamein in WW2, but has had his death registered in SA. There must be provisions allowing families to take up that option. Jane On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Death reg. WW1 (Christine Anderson) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Christine Anderson" <[email protected]> > To: "aus-sagen" <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:44:36 +0800 > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Death reg. WW1 > Hello fellow listers, I have just come across an unusual occurrence. I > know soldiers who died in the war are not usually registered in the > Australian death records but rather with the army records, but I have found > an exception to this and wonder if any one else has experienced the same.? > Charles Thomas BLACK , service no 678, 32nd Bn. was killed in France on 24 > June 1918 and is buried at Villiers. > His death is also registered in Sth. Aust. Charles Thomas BLACK died 24 > June 1918, 34 yrs, residence Hackham place of death (FRA) book 464 page 106. > It wasn't until I read his death notice that I realized that (FRA) was > actually France and not an abbreviation for a place in Sth. Aust. this off > course led me to look at his service records. > If anyone else has experienced this or can suggest why it was registered > in Sth. Aust. maybe they could reply to list. > Regards, Chris in W.Aust. > > To contact the AUS-SAGEN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the AUS-SAGEN mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Hi Chris & Listers, About 2,700 of the 6,600 SA servicemen who died overseas had their deaths registered in SA. If their estate executors needed a grant of probate to settle their affairs, the court required a valid death certificate. The army records were not sufficient. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.ach.familyhistorysa.info/ww1servicemen.html -----Original Message----- From: Christine Anderson via Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:14 PM To: aus-sagen Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Death reg. WW1 Hello fellow listers, I have just come across an unusual occurrence. I know soldiers who died in the war are not usually registered in the Australian death records but rather with the army records, but I have found an exception to this and wonder if any one else has experienced the same.? Charles Thomas BLACK , service no 678, 32nd Bn. was killed in France on 24 June 1918 and is buried at Villiers. His death is also registered in Sth. Aust. Charles Thomas BLACK died 24 June 1918, 34 yrs, residence Hackham place of death (FRA) book 464 page 106. It wasn't until I read his death notice that I realized that (FRA) was actually France and not an abbreviation for a place in Sth. Aust. this off course led me to look at his service records. If anyone else has experienced this or can suggest why it was registered in Sth. Aust. maybe they could reply to list. Regards, Chris in W.Aust.

Hello fellow listers, I have just come across an unusual occurrence. I know soldiers who died in the war are not usually registered in the Australian death records but rather with the army records, but I have found an exception to this and wonder if any one else has experienced the same.? Charles Thomas BLACK , service no 678, 32nd Bn. was killed in France on 24 June 1918 and is buried at Villiers. His death is also registered in Sth. Aust. Charles Thomas BLACK died 24 June 1918, 34 yrs, residence Hackham place of death (FRA) book 464 page 106. It wasn't until I read his death notice that I realized that (FRA) was actually France and not an abbreviation for a place in Sth. Aust. this off course led me to look at his service records. If anyone else has experienced this or can suggest why it was registered in Sth. Aust. maybe they could reply to list. Regards, Chris in W.Aust.

Thankyou everyone who helped me with this man The penny dropped and when I say his death as 70 years old in 1893 I know now that the William BLEWER I just think you are all great people Thankyou very much If one day someone looks in the archives and find this notice by all means I will share the BLEWER information with you Sincerely Jill Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org 'Genealogy without Documentation is Mythology' FREE RESEARCH - http://jillmorley.wix.com/free-research .....,'~._|\, ,/Australia\ \_,-----\*,_,/ .............*...

William Blewer's attestation documents sent to Jill (8-pages) Barry

Can anyone help me with this records I am trying to find William BLEWER born 1813 He says he was in the Crimean War and received a pension of 8s week? When I found who I think it was the records is on 'Find My Past' and I am not a member of this site I am on Ancestry.com and they did not have these war records [starting to think I should change subscription] Reference: WO 97/434 Description: 24th Foot Abe - Byr Date: 1760-1854 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record I hope you can understand this because I am at a Loss? Thankyou Jill

[AUS-SAGEN] Dating a photograph. Have a look at the Jayne Shrimpton blogs on the subject of dating photos on FindMyPast, here: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/family-photos-whats-the-history/ also page forward from here: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/history-of-photos/page/3/ rgds, Barry

Doing some research for a friend................some names we are looking at. KOHLER, TRIGG, AXTELL, LANGLEY, WAYE, HEARL, and looking for a Meredith Wenham who is also looking at some of these names. Mt Compass, Port Elliott, Nangkita, Edithburg

I am from Victoria Andrew and I have never heard of the Keain Index, will you explain it to me please cheers Lyn

I was looking for a great uncle at west Tce . His name was in the register and he was listed as Jane Dolphin instead of James Dolphin. I did ask that they change it but not sure if they did. Also because there was no location of graves this makes it very difficult Anne MENADUE Sent from my iPad > On 17 Aug 2014, at 5:28 am, Andrew Peake via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm not sure how you can be so certain that the individual wasn't buried at > West Terrace Catholic Cemetery, as the indexes are very imperfect. Many > years ago I found the burial registers in disarray in the Smyth Chapel, > with pieces strewn all over the floor. I took a number into 'safe custody' > and subsequently returned them to the Cemetery some ten years later when > they became more concerned about such matters. > > I would be checking the Keain Index to see whether there was a death notice > in the Catholic newspapers. Unfortunately the Goodwood Catholic Church > didn't keep a burial register in the 1890s. > > Andrew Peake > > >> On 16 August 2014 23:08, Lyn via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What is the name you are looking for Tam ? >> Lyn >> >> >> >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Andrew G Peake > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not sure how you can be so certain that the individual wasn't buried at West Terrace Catholic Cemetery, as the indexes are very imperfect. Many years ago I found the burial registers in disarray in the Smyth Chapel, with pieces strewn all over the floor. I took a number into 'safe custody' and subsequently returned them to the Cemetery some ten years later when they became more concerned about such matters. I would be checking the Keain Index to see whether there was a death notice in the Catholic newspapers. Unfortunately the Goodwood Catholic Church didn't keep a burial register in the 1890s. Andrew Peake On 16 August 2014 23:08, Lyn via <[email protected]> wrote: > What is the name you are looking for Tam ? > Lyn > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Andrew G Peake

What is the name you are looking for Tam ? Lyn

Hello : ) Can anyone tell me where someone would most likely to be buried if they died in 1890, lived in Mitcham and attended church at Goodwood (Catholic)? I can't find them at West Terrace...or Mitcham general...that's just using the online searches though, I'm not sure how extensive the Mitcham index is. Is there another possibility I haven't found? Thank you, Tam

Good Morning, Can any one help me with the RESCHKE Family. I am looking for help with them coming out of Posen Preussen. I have a Martin RESCHKE married Maria Elizabeth Koch He was born abt 1780. Martin had a son i believe was Johann Gottfried RESCHKE born abt 1813. Can any one tell me if they are from this area in Germany, any dates birth death marriages .how many children names etc.. i would be really over the moon if anyone could give me some help on this family as 1780 is not that far back. i am aware the war damaged/ruined alot of records. Thanks and regards Josie

Dear Jill and List, I would like to publically apologise to Jill. My comments were not pointed at you or anyone being racist, and I am sorry if my writing was not clear enough. I do hope that you have not been too upset or hurt by my previous post. To try and clarify, I simply wanted to compliment Leita on her explanation of how difficult it is to trace the connections and history of aboriginal people and their family groups. I also wanted to support her point that serious researchers may be frustrated with commercial family history programs and the way in which solid research is presented, but that none the less, those programs are based on the work of professional genealogists and countless hours. The family history programs are a form of entertainment. They are also a publicity exercise aimed at making money for a large American company that, I would suggest, is working voraciously on dominating the world genealogy market. Enticing more people into the "hobby" of family history and presenting it as easy is part of their commercial viability. Anyone experienced in genealogy research will have their frustrations with these programs. But, how many of us started out with few skills, simplistic ideas of how much we would do with this new "hobby", how engaging and addictive it would become, how many skills we would have to develop, how much time, life energy and money would go into this? Writing on a list is difficult because we can't hear one another's voices to understand the tone of what is said. Conversation is different. We're a community of very many different personalities, and posting quickly as an emotional response can easily lead to misunderstandings. Sending my kind regards to all, Rowena

Looking for any descendants of William PITMAN and Anne HOSKINS married in 1812 in Yarlington, Somerset. Not sure if any family members emigrated Thanks Dianne

Hello Jill et al, You are so right, Jill. The show gives a very false impression (and so do the advertisements that Ancestry.com show on TV) of what Family History research is about and it’s purpose is to attract people to purchase one of their membership packages. It is made to entertain so that people will watch it - and they obviously pick subjects who are well known and whose family history they can sensationalise. Entertainment it is - a super sales campaign it is, but research it is not. I belong to a worldwide group of volunteers who help people to research their family history, in addition to being a member of several genealogy societies and am constantly having to try to tell people that, no, one can’t trace their ancestors the way that “Who do you think you are?” pretend to do it. Kind regards …… Corinne. On 15 Aug 2014, at 10:37 am, D & J MORLEY via <[email protected]> wrote: > As I said to Leita and Rowena > What makes me laugh is that all I said is that poor man - no names or race > was mentioned- you have all turned my first letter into a racial argument- > shame on you all > > we as family historians are suppose to believe this was how we do it? > the list then took my comments as racial - I think they are racial -I do not > see colour in people just names- god know I am not a bit racial and > I will take action against anyone who says I am - this I mean > > Before you comment read my first email to the list > I want honestly in my trees not Ancestry.com made up stories - that sell > subscriptions to their web site. > Some people including you have read all I said absolutely > wrong - If this was about anyone else nobody would have said anything about > my > comments > I wonder who is racial and who just want the truth in Family History > What happened to sanity- > Jill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rowena Gough via > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 10:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Who Do You Think You Are > > Good on you Leita, > > Well said. I think one has to be open minded with regard to the television > programs tracing family history. They do the best job that they can to > entertain, to generate public interest, and to show that it is possible to > trace your family (and generate more subscribers to Ancestry). > > I cannot imagine how difficult, frustrating and distressing it may be for > folk with aboriginal roots to find information. Including their stories in > these programs is incredibly important for our understanding of ourselves as > a large nation with a rich, complex and somewhat troubled history. > > Now, can we put the discussion of this program to a close? > > Kind regards to all, > > Rowena > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The discussion was about "Who do you think you are" in general and not any particular episode. regards to all Suzy

Good on you Leita, Well said. I think one has to be open minded with regard to the television programs tracing family history. They do the best job that they can to entertain, to generate public interest, and to show that it is possible to trace your family (and generate more subscribers to Ancestry). I cannot imagine how difficult, frustrating and distressing it may be for folk with aboriginal roots to find information. Including their stories in these programs is incredibly important for our understanding of ourselves as a large nation with a rich, complex and somewhat troubled history. Now, can we put the discussion of this program to a close? Kind regards to all, Rowena

Have a look at the Jayne Shrimpton blogs on the subject of dating photos on FindMyPast, here: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/2011/family-photos-whats-the-history/ also page forward from here: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/history-of-photos/page/3/ rgds, Barry