Hi Bill, You don't have to take out a subscription to access PUBLIC Member Family Trees - you can use the Ancestry Library Edition - available for free a many Public Libraries and other locations. Have a look at the details under 'Family Trees' ... https://library.si.edu/sites/default/files/research/Ancestry%20Library%20Edi tion%20and%20Ancestry%20com%20comparison.pdf Hope that helps. Regards ... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster via Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 6:49 AM To: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Reply to Bill Webster Thanks Marie, and everyone, but I won't be taking out a subscription. Therefore, if I wanted to have an online tree that was not hostage to the repository, I will look elsewhere when the time comes. I suspect that none of them is perfect. Bill

Thanks Marie, and everyone, but I won't be taking out a subscription. Therefore, if I wanted to have an online tree that was not hostage to the repository, I will look elsewhere when the time comes. I suspect that none of them is perfect. Bill -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marie via Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2016 6:40 AM To: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Reply to Bill Webster The only way you can look at the Tree on Ancestry is by taking out a subscription. Hope this helps you. Marie AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Of course I can appreciate that not everyone using Ancestry trees operates in the same way Lyn. We are all entitled to our thoughts and opinions. There are always going to be the aggregators sadly, and I think it reasonably obvious when I look at a tree with a huge number of 'people' that is what it is. I always look, too, at the sources straight away. And sadly there are always going to be RUDE people. -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 11:24 AM To: Stephanie Cocks Cc: GenealogyFreak ; Bill Webster ; aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Ancestry Public Trees There are many reasons not to make Ancestry trees public. Serious researchers know how much rubbish appears on public Ancestry trees. This is because people copy anything from other trees without any evidence that it is correct, and often obviously incorrect. e.g. parents 5 years older than their children .. I could go on and on. Before we knew better, my cousin and I had a public tree where we posted what we had researched on Ancestry, from many other sources and from a professional genealogist. A VERY unpleasant person copied the entire tree, of many thousands of people , none of whom were related to him or to anyone on his tree. He is an aggregator, interested only in the number of people on his tree, whether the connections or the “facts” are correct or not. When we asked how he was connected to our family, he sent a most impolite response. When we asked him to remove some information about living people, he sent a deliberately crude and insulting response. … and you think we should SHARE with people like him! Sharing is two-way. My cousin and I share whatever we find about our family, between ourselves. It has taken us years of serious effort and lots of money to find what we know. We are not willing to allow everyone in the known universe to take our research and misuse it online. We have made the tree private now, but, alas, the horse had already bolted. I have a number of private Ancestry trees which I use for families other than my own, to take advantage of the “hints” Ancestry provides. and for somewhere to store what I have found (from other sources as well as those found on Ancestry). Some people related to one of these trees sent me a very polite and reasonable message through Ancestry, enabling us both to benefit from sharing information in which we all have a legitimate interest. They now have access to my private tree, and I to theirs. They chose to make contact with me, because they could see from the limited information about me tree that I was serious about sources, and about the particular branch of the family they were connected to. I hope you can appreciate that not everyone using Ancestry trees operates in the same way! Lyn

Hi Susie, Oh yes, only too well aware of people who don't ask nicely, and those that don't say 'thank you'. Sad really, because it puts people off, those that are quite prepared to help out with research. I agree, ancestry trees sometimes are not even worth looking at, for want of SOURCES, and it is obvious many times that they are just copies of other trees. I am sorry, but not surprised to hear that you receive abuse, and to the point of considering taking your website down. I think I would apply my 'black list' option to anyone that stooped to abuse. Steph. -----Original Message----- From: Susie Zada Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:34 AM To: 'Stephanie Cocks' ; aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-SAGEN] Ancestry Public Trees Hi Stephanie, I'm not a fan of Ancestry trees but Private ones are often a way of sharing with family members but not the general public - a very good reason for making them private. And being reminded to 'ask nicely' ... all I can say that you are very fortunate to have not come across people who don't ask nicely. I run a very large website with a free searchable database of more than 1.7 million entries. Many of the entries provide full details, many require people to follow up records or entries on TROVE or the Public Record Office, and many entries require a request to a local society for a copy of the full record. Sometimes there is a small fee for copies if people aren't able to visit personally. You would not believe the amount of abuse I get if I don't accede to demands that I provide a full copy of the record for free immediately! You would think if someone wanted something for nothing they would at least ask politely. But no - revolting abuse to the point I have considered removing the database and closing down the web site. Fortunately there are some people [not as many as the abusers] who email me to say thank you for information they have found that has helped with their research. Those emails cancel out the numerous abusive people! So yes, people do need to be reminded to 'ask nicely'! Regards ... Susie Zada -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Cocks via Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:55 AM To: GenealogyFreak <GenealogyFreak@charter.net>; Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net>; aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Ancestry Public Trees Public as opposed to the Private Trees. Though I have never been able to figure out why people would bother putting their trees onto Ancesty if they are not prepared to share AND the possibility of other people being able to help. And having to 'ask nicely' do we need to be reminded to 'ask nicely'!! I don't think so.

There are many reasons not to make Ancestry trees public. Serious researchers know how much rubbish appears on public Ancestry trees. This is because people copy anything from other trees without any evidence that it is correct, and often obviously incorrect. e.g. parents 5 years older than their children .. I could go on and on. Before we knew better, my cousin and I had a public tree where we posted what we had researched on Ancestry, from many other sources and from a professional genealogist. A VERY unpleasant person copied the entire tree, of many thousands of people , none of whom were related to him or to anyone on his tree. He is an aggregator, interested only in the number of people on his tree, whether the connections or the “facts” are correct or not. When we asked how he was connected to our family, he sent a most impolite response. When we asked him to remove some information about living people, he sent a deliberately crude and insulting response. … and you think we should SHARE with people like him! Sharing is two-way. My cousin and I share whatever we find about our family, between ourselves. It has taken us years of serious effort and lots of money to find what we know. We are not willing to allow everyone in the known universe to take our research and misuse it online. We have made the tree private now, but, alas, the horse had already bolted. I have a number of private Ancestry trees which I use for families other than my own, to take advantage of the “hints” Ancestry provides. and for somewhere to store what I have found (from other sources as well as those found on Ancestry). Some people related to one of these trees sent me a very polite and reasonable message through Ancestry, enabling us both to benefit from sharing information in which we all have a legitimate interest. They now have access to my private tree, and I to theirs. They chose to make contact with me, because they could see from the limited information about me tree that I was serious about sources, and about the particular branch of the family they were connected to. I hope you can appreciate that not everyone using Ancestry trees operates in the same way! Lyn

Hi Stephanie, I'm not a fan of Ancestry trees but Private ones are often a way of sharing with family members but not the general public - a very good reason for making them private. And being reminded to 'ask nicely' ... all I can say that you are very fortunate to have not come across people who don't ask nicely. I run a very large website with a free searchable database of more than 1.7 million entries. Many of the entries provide full details, many require people to follow up records or entries on TROVE or the Public Record Office, and many entries require a request to a local society for a copy of the full record. Sometimes there is a small fee for copies if people aren't able to visit personally. You would not believe the amount of abuse I get if I don't accede to demands that I provide a full copy of the record for free immediately! You would think if someone wanted something for nothing they would at least ask politely. But no - revolting abuse to the point I have considered removing the database and closing down the web site. Fortunately there are some people [not as many as the abusers] who email me to say thank you for information they have found that has helped with their research. Those emails cancel out the numerous abusive people! So yes, people do need to be reminded to 'ask nicely'! Regards ... Susie Zada -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Cocks via Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2016 10:55 AM To: GenealogyFreak <GenealogyFreak@charter.net>; Bill Webster <wbwebster@internode.on.net>; aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Ancestry Public Trees Public as opposed to the Private Trees. Though I have never been able to figure out why people would bother putting their trees onto Ancesty if they are not prepared to share AND the possibility of other people being able to help. And having to 'ask nicely' do we need to be reminded to 'ask nicely'!! I don't think so.

Public as opposed to the Private Trees. Though I have never been able to figure out why people would bother putting their trees onto Ancesty if they are not prepared to share AND the possibility of other people being able to help. And having to 'ask nicely' do we need to be reminded to 'ask nicely'!! I don't think so. -----Original Message----- From: GenealogyFreak via Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:55 AM To: Bill Webster ; aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Ancestry Public Trees They are "Public" in that they are viewable by all Ancestry members: a member does not have to ask the "owner" of the tree for permission to view it. On 03/22/2016 05:49 PM, Bill Webster via wrote: > I am not an Ancestry subscriber, although I have been and it allows me to > login. > > I have been prompted to look at a couple of "Public Trees". I can bring > up > the links to these trees, but can't find a way to look at them beyond the > Subscribe page. > > Is there a way to do this? Or if not, in what way are these trees > "public"? AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not an Ancestry subscriber, although I have been and it allows me to login. I have been prompted to look at a couple of "Public Trees". I can bring up the links to these trees, but can't find a way to look at them beyond the Subscribe page. Is there a way to do this? Or if not, in what way are these trees "public"? Thanks Bill

They are "Public" in that they are viewable by all Ancestry members: a member does not have to ask the "owner" of the tree for permission to view it. On 03/22/2016 05:49 PM, Bill Webster via wrote: > I am not an Ancestry subscriber, although I have been and it allows me to > login. > > I have been prompted to look at a couple of "Public Trees". I can bring up > the links to these trees, but can't find a way to look at them beyond the > Subscribe page. > > Is there a way to do this? Or if not, in what way are these trees "public"?

It might be of interest for people who use Chrome that you cannot download Scotspeople files with Chrome you have to use another search engine so if you have another one - keep it on your computer - because not all Government sites in the world use the same one I kept getting frustrated - Paying for certificates and then not being able to down load them - because you have to pay FIRST - this was getting me down then I heard not to use Chrome- and I went back to me old search engine and was able to down load them. Just beware Jill -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Peake via Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:41 AM To: Christine Anderson Cc: AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove I had problems before, accessing TROVE and the full screen, but following advice from the Newsgroup, I tried accessing TROVE with Chrome (where previously I always used Firefox) and bingo, it works. Thanks for the advice. Andrew Peake On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thankyou to all who have replied with lots of advice and many with wide > and > > varying problems of their own.I am now able to access though I am not > doing > > any thing different than before, can also print out O.K. I have come to > the > > conclusion that it may have just been that the user load was too heavy, > all > > those things we wanted to look up before they shut down to update. > So Thankyou to everyone who has replied will not make individual replies > as > > I would be up until midnight, great and helpful listers ,Thankyou, Chris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathy Pinner via > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:07 PM > To: AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > I'm using Opera browser with no problems which has the same base as > Chrome. > I trust those who are having problems have contacted Trove/NLA as people > here can only report whether they have problems or not. > Maybe caches need to be cleared or bookmarks renewed or there is > something else behind the scenes re browser settings that Trove would be > able to elucidate. > > Cathy > > Lyn Carruthers via wrote: >> >> IE and no problems >> Cheers >> Lyn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith via >> Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 7:11 PM >> To: Sue Lear<sue.lear@optusnet.com.au> >> Cc: South Australian Gen Group<AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> Hello all, >> >> Firefox users seem to be not having a p roblem. True? >> I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? >> >> Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? >> >> Something must be causing such a variety of problems. >> >> Lyn >> >>> >>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct >>> or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, >>> that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the >>> article/s remain. >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM >>> To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake >>> Cc: South Australian Gen Group >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >>> >>> No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. >>> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via<aus-sagen@ro otsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the >>>> image does appear. >>>> Paula >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------Original Message------- >>>> >>>> From: Andrew Peake via >>>> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >>>> To: Christine Anderson >>>> Cc: aus-sagen >>>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >>>> >>>> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >>>> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >>>> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no >>>> digital image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was >>>> only a teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, >>>> and the value of the site is seriously compromised. >>>> >>>> Andrew Peake >>>> >>>> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Upd ate I >>>>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I >>>>> have >>>> >>>> had >>>> >>>>> >>>>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the >>>>> actual article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts >>>>> of time >>>> >>>> frames >>>>> >>>>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the >>>>> world >>>> >>>> when >>>>> >>>>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping >>>>> the >>>> >>>> bit >>>> >>>>> >>>>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>>> >>> >> > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Andrew G Peake AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had problems before, accessing TROVE and the full screen, but following advice from the Newsgroup, I tried accessing TROVE with Chrome (where previously I always used Firefox) and bingo, it works. Thanks for the advice. Andrew Peake On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thankyou to all who have replied with lots of advice and many with wide and > > varying problems of their own.I am now able to access though I am not doing > > any thing different than before, can also print out O.K. I have come to the > > conclusion that it may have just been that the user load was too heavy, all > > those things we wanted to look up before they shut down to update. > So Thankyou to everyone who has replied will not make individual replies as > > I would be up until midnight, great and helpful listers ,Thankyou, Chris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathy Pinner via > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:07 PM > To: AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > I'm using Opera browser with no problems which has the same base as Chrome. > I trust those who are having problems have contacted Trove/NLA as people > here can only report whether they have problems or not. > Maybe caches need to be cleared or bookmarks renewed or there is > something else behind the scenes re browser settings that Trove would be > able to elucidate. > > Cathy > > Lyn Carruthers via wrote: >> >> IE and no problems >> Cheers >> Lyn >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith via >> Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 7:11 PM >> To: Sue Lear<sue.lear@optusnet.com.au> >> Cc: South Australian Gen Group<AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> Hello all, >> >> Firefox users seem to be not having a p roblem. True? >> I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? >> >> Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? >> >> Something must be causing such a variety of problems. >> >> Lyn >> >>> >>> On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct >>> or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, >>> that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the >>> article/s remain. >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM >>> To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake >>> Cc: South Australian Gen Group >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >>> >>> No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. >>> >>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via<aus-sagen@ro otsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the >>>> image does appear. >>>> Paula >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------Original Message------- >>>> >>>> From: Andrew Peake via >>>> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >>>> To: Christine Anderson >>>> Cc: aus-sagen >>>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >>>> >>>> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >>>> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >>>> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no >>>> digital image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was >>>> only a teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, >>>> and the value of the site is seriously compromised. >>>> >>>> Andrew Peake >>>> >>>> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Upd ate I >>>>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I >>>>> have >>>> >>>> had >>>> >>>>> >>>>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the >>>>> actual article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts >>>>> of time >>>> >>>> frames >>>>> >>>>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the >>>>> world >>>> >>>> when >>>>> >>>>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping >>>>> the >>>> >>>> bit >>>> >>>>> >>>>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>>> >>> >> > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Andrew G Peake

Hi all, Thanks very much for those replied to my query re the above. As usual the response was very gratifying. Thanks Alan

I can't find it also, Alan. This was wartime, which often resulted in the unexpected. Did Arthur serve in any of the forces? Were Arthur and Ellen both Australian born, and resident before marriage? Bill -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Richards via Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 8:54 PM To: aus-sagen-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] N. S. W. Marriage Hi All, I am looking for a marriage on 22 November 1914 between Arthur Ernest Latham and Helen (Ellen) Florence Clark (Suttle). These are the details shown on the birth certificate of their son Arthur Raymond Latham born on 30 April 1916 with Arthur Ernest Latham being the informant. I have searched online on the BDM N.S.W. site and also the Australian Marriages site with no success. Any suggestions where else i might look please. Thanks Alan Richards AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I am looking for a marriage on 22 November 1914 between Arthur Ernest Latham and Helen (Ellen) Florence Clark (Suttle). These are the details shown on the birth certificate of their son Arthur Raymond Latham born on 30 April 1916 with Arthur Ernest Latham being the informant. I have searched online on the BDM N.S.W. site and also the Australian Marriages site with no success. Any suggestions where else i might look please. Thanks Alan Richards

IE and no problems Cheers Lyn -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith via Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 7:11 PM To: Sue Lear <sue.lear@optusnet.com.au> Cc: South Australian Gen Group <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove Hello all, Firefox users seem to be not having a problem. True? I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? Something must be causing such a variety of problems. Lyn > On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the article/s remain. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM > To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake > Cc: South Australian Gen Group > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the >> image does appear. >> Paula >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Andrew Peake via >> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >> To: Christine Anderson >> Cc: aus-sagen >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no >> digital image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was >> only a teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, >> and the value of the site is seriously compromised. >> >> Andrew Peake >> >> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Update I >>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I >>> have >> had >> >>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the >>> actual article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts >>> of time >> frames >>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the >>> world >> when >>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping >>> the >> bit >> >>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >>> >>> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >>> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew G Peake >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Firefox users seem to be not having a problem. True? I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? Something must be causing such a variety of problems. Lyn > On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the article/s remain. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM > To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake > Cc: South Australian Gen Group > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the image does >> appear. >> Paula >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Andrew Peake via >> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >> To: Christine Anderson >> Cc: aus-sagen >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no digital >> image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was only a >> teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, and the >> value of the site is seriously compromised. >> >> Andrew Peake >> >> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Update I >>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I have >> had >> >>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the actual >>> article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts of time >> frames >>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the world >> when >>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping the >> bit >> >>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >>> >>> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >>> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew G Peake >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, Windows Chrome working fine. Havn't been attempting to edit text, but no problems with finding/reading/printing/copypaste etc., Hadn't looked at Trove for a while so wasn't aware of the changes on the screen, but so far it is all OK. ? Windows10. Steph. -----Original Message----- From: Lyn Smith via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 6:41 PM To: Sue Lear Cc: South Australian Gen Group Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove Hello all, Firefox users seem to be not having a problem. True? I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? Something must be causing such a variety of problems. Lyn > On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct or tag > since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, that > specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the article/s remain. > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM > To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake > Cc: South Australian Gen Group > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the image >> does >> appear. >> Paula >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Andrew Peake via >> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >> To: Christine Anderson >> Cc: aus-sagen >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no digital >> image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was only a >> teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, and the >> value of the site is seriously compromised. >> >> Andrew Peake >> >> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Update I >>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I have >> had >> >>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the actual >>> article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts of time >> frames >>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the world >> when >>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping the >> bit >> >>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >>> >>> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >>> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew G Peake >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ >> >> Websites of Interest on our Blog: >> http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm using Microsoft Edge (Windows 10) - no problems. Have been correcting text, etc as before upgrade.

I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the article/s remain. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake Cc: South Australian Gen Group Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the image does > appear. > Paula > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Andrew Peake via > Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM > To: Christine Anderson > Cc: aus-sagen > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The > sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific > article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no digital > image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was only a > teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, and the > value of the site is seriously compromised. > > Andrew Peake > > On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Update I > > wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I have > had > > > few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the actual > > article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts of time > frames > > but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the world > when > > I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping the > bit > > > to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > Andrew G Peake > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou to all who have replied with lots of advice and many with wide and varying problems of their own.I am now able to access though I am not doing any thing different than before, can also print out O.K. I have come to the conclusion that it may have just been that the user load was too heavy, all those things we wanted to look up before they shut down to update. So Thankyou to everyone who has replied will not make individual replies as I would be up until midnight, great and helpful listers ,Thankyou, Chris. -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Pinner via Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:07 PM To: AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove I'm using Opera browser with no problems which has the same base as Chrome. I trust those who are having problems have contacted Trove/NLA as people here can only report whether they have problems or not. Maybe caches need to be cleared or bookmarks renewed or there is something else behind the scenes re browser settings that Trove would be able to elucidate. Cathy Lyn Carruthers via wrote: > > IE and no problems > Cheers > Lyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Smith via > Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 7:11 PM > To: Sue Lear<sue.lear@optusnet.com.au> > Cc: South Australian Gen Group<AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove > > Hello all, > > Firefox users seem to be not having a p roblem. True? > I’m using Chrome and not having a problem. Other Chrome users? > > Which browsers are those who ARE having problems using? > > Something must be causing such a variety of problems. > > Lyn > >> >> On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:57 PM, Sue Lear via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> I have no problem accessing the articles but cannot seem to correct >> or tag since the upgrade. When I attempt to edit the text I need to, >> that specific piece just disappears, while other parts of the >> article/s remain. >> >> Sue >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Barrows [mailto:richard.barrows@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, 21 March 2016 3:00 PM >> To: Paula Maslin; Andrew Peake >> Cc: South Australian Gen Group >> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >> >> No problems. Just takes a bit to work out how to work the new system. >> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 3:16 pm Paula Maslin via<aus-sagen@ro otsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Strange - I have had no problems. There is a slight lag, but the >>> image does appear. >>> Paula >>> >>> >>> >>> -------Original Message------- >>> >>> From: Andrew Peake via >>> Date: 21/03/2016 2:40:31 PM >>> To: Christine Anderson >>> Cc: aus-sagen >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] re Trove >>> >>> I too have had this problem every time I tried to get into TROVE. The >>> sorting function works well, but when you try to access the specific >>> article all you get is the text version (warts and all) but no >>> digital image of the original article. I've been hoping that this was >>> only a teething issue, but it has been like this for several weeks, >>> and the value of the site is seriously compromised. >>> >>> Andrew Peake >>> >>> On 21/03/2016, Christine Anderson via<aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi There , while I realize that Trove has just completed an Upd ate I >>>> wondered if any one has had much success? I know it is busy but I >>>> have >>> >>> had >>> >>>> >>>> few successes in getting past the initial abbreviated info to the >>>> actual article although I have set the alarm at night for all sorts >>>> of time >>> >>> frames >>>> >>>> but I suppose it is always going to be peak time somewhere in the >>>> world >>> >>> when >>>> >>>> I try. Non the less I am grateful for the resource but am chomping >>>> the >>> >>> bit >>> >>>> >>>> to be able to access it. Chris in W.A. >>> >> > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message