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    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Where did they come from
    2. robert janmaat via
    3. Judy try this Passenger List - Indian, London & Plymouth to Adelaide, 1849 |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Passenger List - Indian, London & Plymouth to Adelaide, ...                                    Diaries & Journals | Immigration Reports | Illustrated London News | Trivia | Frequently Asked Questions   | | | | View on www.theshipslist.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | Regards Robert, Adelaide  Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.shtml http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAgermanindex.shtml From: Judy Elliott via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2016, 14:52 Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Where did they come from Is there any where I can find out where the passengers on the 'Indian' which arrived SA in 1849 came from.  My great great grandparents were on this ship. Judy AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/13/2016 11:53:18
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] About Elsie saga
    2. Robyn Coates via
    3. Hi Jill Are these connected with your Elsie Hartman given that Beechworth isn't all that far from Albury? >From Vic BDM Cheers Robyn Surname: HARTMANN Given Names: Elsie Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Chas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Annie DRISCOLL Birth Place: BEECHWORTH Year: 1890 Reg. Number: 9811 Surname: HARTMAN Given Names: Jack Arelette Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie HARTMANN Birth Place: BEECHWORTH Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 16657 Surname: HARTMANN Given Names: Elsie Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: CHICK Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Hilton Jno Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 11007

    06/05/2016 10:47:01
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN
    2. ABH via
    3. Hi Jill, I was most interested in this post because I am assisting a person who wants to track an illegitimate child born in 1917. Would you be able to supply where you were able to access information on the fostering of this child. According to State Archives records for the fostering of children are not available after 1916 following the 100 year access rule. Cheers Judy -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2016 10:58 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN We now have an un blacked out version of the Birth certificate and the blacked out words - would you believe were Spinster and Illegitimate - the mother was Elise HARTMAN age 23 years in 1926 makes her born 1903 and she said she was born in Melbourne Victoria So now we know - BUT - there is no such person in the Victorian births The baby was born in Albury NSW in 1926 She then came to South Australia and placed the baby boy in the Mareeba Baby Hospital in Woodville he was 3 months old in April 1926 when she left him This is sad - But I think that is all we will ever know The baby was fostered by a lovely lady who at one time had 10 children of her own - Mrs GILLESPIE was elderly when she fostered him I know who this lady was. No need to search for her Thankyou for everyone who helped us I am writing this in the hope someone will find this in the archives It happened to me after 8 years when I was trying to find a member of my own family So it might happen again- just hope I am not dead when it does - Smile Sincerely Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2016 09:53:19
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN
    2. Stephanie Cocks via
    3. I've not been following this story Jill, but similar thing when I promised to do my much older cousin's maternal tree, her Mum was my Dad's much older sister, she died basically childbirth. I had to present my cousin with her grandmother as illegitimate! Dug and dug but got nowhere. She only spoke to me once about her Mother, and how hard it was for her always on Mother's Days.... -----Original Message----- From: D & J MORLEY via Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 10:57 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN We now have an un blacked out version of the Birth certificate and the blacked out words - would you believe were Spinster and Illegitimate - the mother was Elise HARTMAN age 23 years in 1926 makes her born 1903 and she said she was born in Melbourne Victoria So now we know - BUT - there is no such person in the Victorian births The baby was born in Albury NSW in 1926 She then came to South Australia and placed the baby boy in the Mareeba Baby Hospital in Woodville he was 3 months old in April 1926 when she left him This is sad - But I think that is all we will ever know The baby was fostered by a lovely lady who at one time had 10 children of her own - Mrs GILLESPIE was elderly when she fostered him I know who this lady was. No need to search for her Thankyou for everyone who helped us I am writing this in the hope someone will find this in the archives It happened to me after 8 years when I was trying to find a member of my own family So it might happen again- just hope I am not dead when it does - Smile Sincerely Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2016 04:14:09
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN
    2. Leita Fennell via
    3. Thank you for sharing that with us it has been most interesting following this problem Leita -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2016 10:58 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN We now have an un blacked out version of the Birth certificate and the blacked out words - would you believe were Spinster and Illegitimate - the mother was Elise HARTMAN age 23 years in 1926 makes her born 1903 and she said she was born in Melbourne Victoria So now we know - BUT - there is no such person in the Victorian births The baby was born in Albury NSW in 1926 She then came to South Australia and placed the baby boy in the Mareeba Baby Hospital in Woodville he was 3 months old in April 1926 when she left him This is sad - But I think that is all we will ever know The baby was fostered by a lovely lady who at one time had 10 children of her own - Mrs GILLESPIE was elderly when she fostered him I know who this lady was. No need to search for her Thankyou for everyone who helped us I am writing this in the hope someone will find this in the archives It happened to me after 8 years when I was trying to find a member of my own family So it might happen again- just hope I am not dead when it does - Smile Sincerely Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/04/2016 04:11:44
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] shepherd family contacts
    2. glenn via
    3. Hi listers- after more help if possible. I am related via my mum to Robert Bastian Shepherd and Julia Agnes Skinner. Robert was born in 1848 at Willunga, his parents were John Shepherd and Phillipa Bastian. Robert died in 1919. Julia was born 1851 in london and died in 1917. Im looking for photos of Robert and Julia. kind regards Glenn

    06/04/2016 08:33:29
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN
    2. Lyn Carruthers via
    3. Thanks for the update Val, pity there wasn't a happier outcome. Cheers Lyn -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Saturday, 4 June 2016 11:28 AM To: AUS - SAGEN <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN We now have an un blacked out version of the Birth certificate and the blacked out words - would you believe were Spinster and Illegitimate - the mother was Elise HARTMAN age 23 years in 1926 makes her born 1903 and she said she was born in Melbourne Victoria So now we know - BUT - there is no such person in the Victorian births The baby was born in Albury NSW in 1926 She then came to South Australia and placed the baby boy in the Mareeba Baby Hospital in Woodville he was 3 months old in April 1926 when she left him This is sad - But I think that is all we will ever know The baby was fostered by a lovely lady who at one time had 10 children of her own - Mrs GILLESPIE was elderly when she fostered him I know who this lady was. No need to search for her Thankyou for everyone who helped us I am writing this in the hope someone will find this in the archives It happened to me after 8 years when I was trying to find a member of my own family So it might happen again- just hope I am not dead when it does - Smile Sincerely Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/04/2016 07:12:55
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Update on Elsie HARTMAN
    2. D & J MORLEY via
    3. We now have an un blacked out version of the Birth certificate and the blacked out words - would you believe were Spinster and Illegitimate - the mother was Elise HARTMAN age 23 years in 1926 makes her born 1903 and she said she was born in Melbourne Victoria So now we know - BUT - there is no such person in the Victorian births The baby was born in Albury NSW in 1926 She then came to South Australia and placed the baby boy in the Mareeba Baby Hospital in Woodville he was 3 months old in April 1926 when she left him This is sad - But I think that is all we will ever know The baby was fostered by a lovely lady who at one time had 10 children of her own - Mrs GILLESPIE was elderly when she fostered him I know who this lady was. No need to search for her Thankyou for everyone who helped us I am writing this in the hope someone will find this in the archives It happened to me after 8 years when I was trying to find a member of my own family So it might happen again- just hope I am not dead when it does - Smile Sincerely Jill

    06/04/2016 04:57:58
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Davis
    2. Elaine Jefferson via
    3. Many thanks to the 2 people who helped with Norman Bruce Davis. I can how try and find a death notice for him (I hope) Elaine

    06/01/2016 08:54:31
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] DAVIS
    2. Ros Saunders via
    3. He was cremated at Centennial Park 4.12.1987. There are other Davis names from VH but not sure who you are looking for. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Elaine Jefferson via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Can anyone help me with ANYTHING on Norman Bruce Davis > he was born Tasmania and according to will I have located for one of his > family members, h was living 9 Warland Ave Victor Harbour and it seems > there is another person connected to him by the name of Ian Davis > Have lost them all This fellow was born about 1904 Hobart > Thanks > Elaine > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/01/2016 02:43:34
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] BDM for Elva Luck Barns
    2. Ros Saunders via
    3. *The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954)* *Wednesday 31 January 1940 *p 9 Detailed Lists, THE MARRIAGE of Miss Elva Barns. of Morphett Vale, to Mr Kenneth Rogers, of St. Peters, will be celebrated at St. Francis Xavier's Cathedral at 5.15 p.m. 0n Saturday. A reception will be held at Maple Leaf Cafe. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Lewis Farrell via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get the parents of Elva Luck Barns B:19 Apr 1916 in > Adelaide, > South Australia, Australia > D: 3 Oct 2001 > > Also, her husband was Kenneth Rogers B: 16 APR 1914 in East Adelaide, South > Australia, Australia but I cannot find a marriage record. > > Could someone please do a look up for Elva's parents and the marriage > record? > > Thank you! > > Lewis > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/01/2016 01:33:16
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] BDM for Elva Luck Barns
    2. Ros Saunders via
    3. ROGERS, Elmore FenwickFound in 'Marriage Index' Database - GenealogySA Groom Given Name(s): Elmore Fenwick Groom Last Name: ROGERS Bride Given Name(s): Nellie Bride Last Name: KELLY Marriage Date: 1908, April 29 Marriage Place: John Henry Kerrs Hotel Murray Bridge Groom Age: 24 Groom Approx. Birth Year: 1884 Groom Marital Status: S Groom Father: Richard Edward Elmore ROGERS Bride Age: 20 Bride Approx. Birth Year: 1888 Bride Marital Status: S Bride Father Name: Charles KELLY District: Nairne Symbol: Book/Page: 235/311 Cross Reference : On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Lyn Smith via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > 1916 BARNS Elva Luck Frank Launsley BARNS Mary Ellison > CAMPBELL Flinders 979/485 > > from https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html < > https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html> > > Lyn > > > > On 1 Jun 2016, at 9:33 AM, Lewis Farrell via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to get the parents of Elva Luck Barns B:19 Apr 1916 in > Adelaide, > > South Australia, Australia > > D: 3 Oct 2001 > > > > Also, her husband was Kenneth Rogers B: 16 APR 1914 in East Adelaide, > South > > Australia, Australia but I cannot find a marriage record. > > > > Could someone please do a look up for Elva's parents and the marriage > > record? > > > > Thank you! > > > > Lewis > > > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/01/2016 12:58:22
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records
    2. Judy Holding via
    3. Thank you Bill I found my Great Grandparent's Marriage Thanks So much. Kind regards, Judy. -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 10:03 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records I forgot to mention the most recent exciting addition. Just this year the National Library of Ireland has put online for free digitised records of Catholic parish registers in its possession. http://registers.nli.ie/ To the best of my knowledge it is not searchable, so you would need in advance a location and preferably parish. Some I have looked up are jam packed to the point of illegibility, often in random order, so extreme patience is required and a dollop of luck, but they are there, for free. The Church of Ireland (Anglican) has put out very recently a summary of where all its surviving parish registers are held. See http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishReg istersTable.pdf. The RCB Library referred to is its own archive in suburban Dublin. There was a surprisingly large community of Quakers (Society of Friends) all over Ireland and FMP has a large run of its excellent records. There was a similarly large population of Huguenot descendants. I am not sure if their records are online but many large libraries or societies hold copious volumes. Mentioning FMP, you can save time by using the top left drop-down box that at first shows "World". Under this you can select Ireland to just get hits from its Irish holdings. Similarly with FamilySearch, clicking on their "Search" tab, at the page that opens scroll down until you see a map of the world. Click on the British Isles in the map and then choose Ireland. Both of these manoeuvres can save a lot of extraneous results. And both will show you somewhere the records that are available with them online for Ireland. Ancestry is not quite so user friendly but can be navigated. Lastly I should mention that our own excellent (but under strain) National Library in its eResources section online (you need to register for a library card online) has freely available the Irish Newspaper Archive, Nineteenth Century British Newspapers and British Newspapers 1600-1950. And even more lastly, huge numbers of Irish went to Britain for work or to serve in the military or navy. You can find family members in British censuses, FreeBMD and military records at TNA (not necessarily online). Bill -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 9:01 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records To add to Jill's. FMP has a reasonable run of Irish records including probate indexes, shipping, etc. FMP (except newspapers) is freely online at your library. Many of the records that some sites require payment for are also available online for free. Especially the site Irish Genealogy - http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/. It has some runs of parish registers including parts of Cork and Kerry, Carlow and Dublin City. Also the civil bdm registers from 1864 (and Protestant marriages from 1845). FamilySearch also has the same civil registrations, probate indexes and more. Information on relatives from Northern Ireland can also be searched for freely at PRONI. See information at https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/archives-family-and-local-history. A nation-wide survey was conducted in the late 1840s into the 1850s called Griffith's Survey. It is also freely available at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/. Unless living in a small city tenement (and even them sometimes) very many of the population are listed either as a tenant or the immediate lessor (who could himself be sub-leasing). So, before paying to research in Ireland, narrow down what you can't find firstly online for free. I have been having the greatest fun searching Irish records these past few years when I was warned that Irish records had all been lost. Bill NSW -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 7:10 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records Just passing on - I received an email telling me I could have the Irish records for 24 hours I paid 10eu which was about $16 and was able to find a lot of who I was looking for just thought someone might be interested I noticed Clare county was no complete I could not get any birth records there but Cork was good The census is FREE for 1910 and 1911 on the Irish Gov site http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ https://rootsireland.ie Happy hunting Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2016 12:57:25
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] DAVIS
    2. Elaine Jefferson via
    3. Can anyone help me with ANYTHING on Norman Bruce Davis he was born Tasmania and according to will I have located for one of his family members, h was living 9 Warland Ave Victor Harbour and it seems there is another person connected to him by the name of Ian Davis Have lost them all This fellow was born about 1904 Hobart Thanks Elaine

    06/01/2016 07:50:22
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records
    2. NewsLetter Factory via
    3. What wonderful information. Thank you Bil. regards Suzy

    06/01/2016 04:39:15
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records
    2. Bill Webster via
    3. I forgot to mention the most recent exciting addition. Just this year the National Library of Ireland has put online for free digitised records of Catholic parish registers in its possession. http://registers.nli.ie/ To the best of my knowledge it is not searchable, so you would need in advance a location and preferably parish. Some I have looked up are jam packed to the point of illegibility, often in random order, so extreme patience is required and a dollop of luck, but they are there, for free. The Church of Ireland (Anglican) has put out very recently a summary of where all its surviving parish registers are held. See http://ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishReg istersTable.pdf. The RCB Library referred to is its own archive in suburban Dublin. There was a surprisingly large community of Quakers (Society of Friends) all over Ireland and FMP has a large run of its excellent records. There was a similarly large population of Huguenot descendants. I am not sure if their records are online but many large libraries or societies hold copious volumes. Mentioning FMP, you can save time by using the top left drop-down box that at first shows "World". Under this you can select Ireland to just get hits from its Irish holdings. Similarly with FamilySearch, clicking on their "Search" tab, at the page that opens scroll down until you see a map of the world. Click on the British Isles in the map and then choose Ireland. Both of these manoeuvres can save a lot of extraneous results. And both will show you somewhere the records that are available with them online for Ireland. Ancestry is not quite so user friendly but can be navigated. Lastly I should mention that our own excellent (but under strain) National Library in its eResources section online (you need to register for a library card online) has freely available the Irish Newspaper Archive, Nineteenth Century British Newspapers and British Newspapers 1600-1950. And even more lastly, huge numbers of Irish went to Britain for work or to serve in the military or navy. You can find family members in British censuses, FreeBMD and military records at TNA (not necessarily online). Bill -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 9:01 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records To add to Jill's. FMP has a reasonable run of Irish records including probate indexes, shipping, etc. FMP (except newspapers) is freely online at your library. Many of the records that some sites require payment for are also available online for free. Especially the site Irish Genealogy - http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/. It has some runs of parish registers including parts of Cork and Kerry, Carlow and Dublin City. Also the civil bdm registers from 1864 (and Protestant marriages from 1845). FamilySearch also has the same civil registrations, probate indexes and more. Information on relatives from Northern Ireland can also be searched for freely at PRONI. See information at https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/archives-family-and-local-history. A nation-wide survey was conducted in the late 1840s into the 1850s called Griffith's Survey. It is also freely available at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/. Unless living in a small city tenement (and even them sometimes) very many of the population are listed either as a tenant or the immediate lessor (who could himself be sub-leasing). So, before paying to research in Ireland, narrow down what you can't find firstly online for free. I have been having the greatest fun searching Irish records these past few years when I was warned that Irish records had all been lost. Bill NSW -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 7:10 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records Just passing on - I received an email telling me I could have the Irish records for 24 hours I paid 10eu which was about $16 and was able to find a lot of who I was looking for just thought someone might be interested I noticed Clare county was no complete I could not get any birth records there but Cork was good The census is FREE for 1910 and 1911 on the Irish Gov site http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ https://rootsireland.ie Happy hunting Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2016 04:32:38
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Help with Crawford family blocks
    2. glenn via
    3. Hi listers- hoping for more help ion a long standing block. My great grandfather John Joseph Eldon Fox married an Annie Crawford (? born 1852 or 1855).I believe Annie came to SA from Scotland aboard The Bee in 1858 with her father James Crawford, mother Margaret and three siblings Janet (born 1850), James (born 1843) and William (born 1838). I know the father died 1874- in the destitute asylum (he liked his drink a bit too much). However i have been unable to find evidence of the remaining family members. Havent found Margaret remayying, nor evidence of the 2 boys. Would appreciate any help- kind regards Glenn

    06/01/2016 04:01:24
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] BDM for Elva Luck Barns
    2. Lyn Smith via
    3. 1916 BARNS Elva Luck Frank Launsley BARNS Mary Ellison CAMPBELL Flinders 979/485 from https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html <https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html> Lyn > On 1 Jun 2016, at 9:33 AM, Lewis Farrell via <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am trying to get the parents of Elva Luck Barns B:19 Apr 1916 in Adelaide, > South Australia, Australia > D: 3 Oct 2001 > > Also, her husband was Kenneth Rogers B: 16 APR 1914 in East Adelaide, South > Australia, Australia but I cannot find a marriage record. > > Could someone please do a look up for Elva's parents and the marriage > record? > > Thank you! > > Lewis > > AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ > > Websites of Interest on our Blog: > http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2016 03:55:25
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] BDM for Elva Luck Barns
    2. Judy Elliott via
    3. Hi Lewis Elva Luck Barns parents Frank Launsley Barns and Mary Ellison Campbell, she was born in Streaky Bay. Kenneth's parents were Elmer Fenwick Rogers and Nellie Kelly, he was born East Adelaide. Judy -----Original Message----- From: Lewis Farrell via Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:03 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] BDM for Elva Luck Barns Hi, I am trying to get the parents of Elva Luck Barns B:19 Apr 1916 in Adelaide, South Australia, Australia D: 3 Oct 2001 Also, her husband was Kenneth Rogers B: 16 APR 1914 in East Adelaide, South Australia, Australia but I cannot find a marriage record. Could someone please do a look up for Elva's parents and the marriage record? Thank you! Lewis AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6201 / Virus Database: 4591/12337 - Release Date: 05/31/16

    06/01/2016 03:19:57
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records
    2. Bill Webster via
    3. To add to Jill's. FMP has a reasonable run of Irish records including probate indexes, shipping, etc. FMP (except newspapers) is freely online at your library. Many of the records that some sites require payment for are also available online for free. Especially the site Irish Genealogy - http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/. It has some runs of parish registers including parts of Cork and Kerry, Carlow and Dublin City. Also the civil bdm registers from 1864 (and Protestant marriages from 1845). FamilySearch also has the same civil registrations, probate indexes and more. Information on relatives from Northern Ireland can also be searched for freely at PRONI. See information at https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/archives-family-and-local-history. A nation-wide survey was conducted in the late 1840s into the 1850s called Griffith's Survey. It is also freely available at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/. Unless living in a small city tenement (and even them sometimes) very many of the population are listed either as a tenant or the immediate lessor (who could himself be sub-leasing). So, before paying to research in Ireland, narrow down what you can't find firstly online for free. I have been having the greatest fun searching Irish records these past few years when I was warned that Irish records had all been lost. Bill NSW -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D & J MORLEY via Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2016 7:10 AM To: AUS - SAGEN Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Irish records Just passing on - I received an email telling me I could have the Irish records for 24 hours I paid 10eu which was about $16 and was able to find a lot of who I was looking for just thought someone might be interested I noticed Clare county was no complete I could not get any birth records there but Cork was good The census is FREE for 1910 and 1911 on the Irish Gov site http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ https://rootsireland.ie Happy hunting Jill AUS-SAGEN Archives are here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-SAGEN/ Websites of Interest on our Blog: http://aus-sagen-genealogy-websites.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/01/2016 03:00:43