Thomas Breakell arrived 1850 to SA - married and then left for Vic. He came back to SA and settled in Glen Ormiston. Between a cousin and myself we have conflicting information so if someone can do some lookups/checking please. Marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth ? in 1850. I have 4 daughters and 2 sons - Janet Francis - 16/10/1862 married in WA Edith Elizabeth - 14/10/1864 - married and moved to Vic Mary Adelaide 6/4/1872 - died 2/8/1890 (From what if anyone can tell me) Horatio John - 15/02/1874 - moved to WA Gertrude Elsie - 24/03/1874 this is wrong - moved to WA and married Thomas Edwin - 8/4/1876 - died Adelaide 15/02/1949 There is reference to 5 daughters so are we missing one (who?) and what is the correct date for the 1874 births of Horatio and Gertrude. Does SA records show cause of death. Doug and Val Norton Hamilton New Zealand

Hi I am looking for any information on George Plimmer/Plinner Gardner/Gardiner. wife is Hannah Cooper. Found 2 births in SA but wondered if anyone had access to immigration. or deaths. Looking for a son William George born c 1850. Hoping he came to Australia with parents. Lyn Baker

Just to let folks know and ensure that this is in the archive, kind lister Rhonda found the shipping record under Mr Shegg and family. How do I know? Well, Shegg is not a name found in Cornwall or the UK, and the date fits a tight timeframe between the birth of his children in the UK and South Australia. Daughter Julia was born 1 Dec 1849 Helston, and died at 10 months of age on 3 Nov 1850 in Adelaide. This is also the last Shugg emigration ship into South Australia that remained unaccounted for. Link below: http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1850Julindur.gif Ship: Julindur, 1850 from London, Gravesend 27 Dec 1849 via Plymouth 6 Jan 1850 with Captain H. Burns, arrived Port Adelaide on 16 Apr 1850. No detail on the ships list, just "Shegg, Mr and family". Yay, this is fabulous, and I'm very excited. Cheers, Rowena In Melbourne (on a cold, wet winters day)

Greetings Listers Winifred Callaghan, 14-year-old Irish Famine orphan, was shipped to Australia on the Maria in 1850. (End of the Earl Grey scheme.) She married (Cornishman) Master Mariner Richard Plummer Burgess, who drowned off New Zealand in 1863. I’m missing two of Win’s children, last seen in a NZ orphanage. William Henry Burgess, b 1858, and Thomas Alfred Burgess, b 1862, "went back to Australia and Ireland” family legend says. The next generation, born about 1890 – 1920, should have family names Richard, Winifred, possibly Gertrude, and the usual Mary-Thomas-William- Henrys. If you have these names in your Burgess tree, please contact me a migseder@clear.net.nz I descend from Win and Richard's oldest son, Richard Henry, who stayed in NZ. A younger daughter Elizabeth married John Hiles in NSW, and I've traced her family. Many thanks for any ideas on where I can find either of my missing lads. - Migs Eder, Christchurch, New Zealand. Civilisation is a movement and not a condition, a voyage and not a harbour - Arnold Toynbee, English historian, 1889 - 1975

Sent Helen the details Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen Carter Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 1:20 AM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] SLADE Can someone please lookup the deaths of   George SLADE b.1920 son of Frederick Thomas SLADE believed to have died as a child   SLADE Langley Gordon b.1916 SLADE Eileen wife of Langley Gordon   Thankyou   Helen Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lawrence George Kennedy greetings Lawrence, that number group refers to the Biographical Index as per example from the duchess Of Northumberland 1856 Bell James 42 Weaver 107/2 Maybole, Ayrshire with family   Elizabeth 41           William 10           James 8           Henry 1         Then This from page 107 2nd Column the following    BELL James b: c1814 AYR SCT arr: 1856 DUCHESS OF NORTHUMBERLAND 0cc: Weaver rel: Presb m: Eliz b: c1815 ch: John (c1838-), Gee (c1840-), Wm (c1844-), Jas (c1847-), Henry (c1854-) Regards Robert, Adelaide Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.htm http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAgermanindex.htm --- On Wed, 11/8/10, LAWRENCE GEORGE KENNEDY <lawrence.kennedy4@bigpond.com> wrote: From: LAWRENCE GEORGE KENNEDY <lawrence.kennedy4@bigpond.com> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Passenger List To: "AUS-SAGEN-mailing list" <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Received: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 5:41 PM Hi Lister's, on the ships passenger list under the column B-Index are two numbers 894/2. Can someone tell me what they mean. Thank you, Lawrence Kennedy. Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another request for information kind listers to do a look up on the BISA. I would like to find the ship that Henry Shugg and his wife Julia Annie (nee Moyle) emigrated to South Australia on. Henry was born 1825, Sithney, Cornwall. He married Julia in 1848 in Plymouth, and they sailed c.1850 with 3 young children Henry b.1845, Stephen b.1847 and Julia b.1849. Many thanks, Rowena In Melbourne

Hi Maxine, There are various sorts of Lodges, Freemasons, Buffaloes etc., I suggest that you try the Freemasons SA &NT website, there will be a contact us link there. They have a Librarian/Historian who hopefully will be able to either rule in or out a Masonic link. Steph. :-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "maxinej" <emmjaye@adsl.on.net> To: <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Lodge meetings > Hi all, > I have a lovely photo of my grandfathe,r who is all dressed up in formal > attire bow tie and all ! > Now some one has told me that this happened in lodges. However, I cannot > identify which one. It would have been in the early 1900's in Broken > Hill.. Which lodges got dressed up? > TIA > Maxine > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3061 - Release Date: 08/10/10 04:05:00

Hi all, I have a lovely photo of my grandfathe,r who is all dressed up in formal attire bow tie and all ! Now some one has told me that this happened in lodges. However, I cannot identify which one. It would have been in the early 1900's in Broken Hill.. Which lodges got dressed up? TIA Maxine

I check the 1916-1972 death CD and marriage CD and there is no Keith Raymond Ellison- Rowe, probably after the dates. Tracey -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverley Diplock Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 2:40 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Ellison-Rowe I would appreciate any info on the Ellison-Rowe family. Cuthbert Neville Ellison-Rowe was a lighthouse keeper in South Australia and his sons were born there. I know that a Ralph Ellison-Rowe was living in a caravan park in 1982/3 on one of the penisulars ( don't know which ones.) Cuthbert's sons were born before and including 1916 at Port Adelaide. Keith Raymond is the son I am most interested in - marriages, children and by age, probably his death and whereabouts. Many thanks, Beverley in Aus Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would appreciate any info on the Ellison-Rowe family. Cuthbert Neville Ellison-Rowe was a lighthouse keeper in South Australia and his sons were born there. I know that a Ralph Ellison-Rowe was living in a caravan park in 1982/3 on one of the penisulars ( don't know which ones.) Cuthbert's sons were born before and including 1916 at Port Adelaide. Keith Raymond is the son I am most interested in - marriages, children and by age, probably his death and whereabouts. Many thanks, Beverley in Aus

Hi Tracey, Just wondering if you found anything different? Steph. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Ives" <traceyives@gmail.com> To: "AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb. com" <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] James Dawson born c.1843 > Sent details to Rowena > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rowena Gough > Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 9:25 AM > To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] James Dawson born c.1843 > > Dear Folks > > > > I would like to check the parents of this little boy if possible. > > > > James Dawson died on 13 Apr 1848 in Adelaide, and his father's name was > noted as James Dawson. In the colony at this time there were 2 possible > sets > of parents. Either James Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher, or, James Dawson > and > Susannah Parrish. > > > > Could someone check his death registration, so that we can find his age, > and > also then check his birth registration. > > > > Many thanks for any help forthcoming. > > > > Kind regards, Rowena > > in Melbourne > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3061 - Release Date: 08/10/10 04:05:00

Sent to Rowena :- 13.4.1847 Death reg, father on the reg is William rather than James. Checked pre civil births (just in case) Also checked 1842-1906 Births. BISA entries for DAWSON James and DAWSON William The DAWSON's on the HOOGHLY 1839, in an attempt to try and fit with a BISA family. Steph. :-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] James Dawson born c.1843 > Dear Folks > > > > I would like to check the parents of this little boy if possible. > > > > James Dawson died on 13 Apr 1848 in Adelaide, and his father's name was > noted as James Dawson. In the colony at this time there were 2 possible > sets > of parents. Either James Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher, or, James Dawson > and > Susannah Parrish. > > > > Could someone check his death registration, so that we can find his age, > and > also then check his birth registration. > > > > Many thanks for any help forthcoming. > > > > Kind regards, Rowena > > in Melbourne > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3061 - Release Date: 08/10/10 04:05:00

Will see what I can find for Rowena... Steph. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] James Dawson born c.1843 > Dear Folks > > > > I would like to check the parents of this little boy if possible. > > > > James Dawson died on 13 Apr 1848 in Adelaide, and his father's name was > noted as James Dawson. In the colony at this time there were 2 possible > sets > of parents. Either James Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher, or, James Dawson > and > Susannah Parrish. > > > > Could someone check his death registration, so that we can find his age, > and > also then check his birth registration. > > > > Many thanks for any help forthcoming. > > > > Kind regards, Rowena > > in Melbourne > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3061 - Release Date: 08/10/10 04:05:00

Sent details to Rowena -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rowena Gough Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 9:25 AM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] James Dawson born c.1843 Dear Folks I would like to check the parents of this little boy if possible. James Dawson died on 13 Apr 1848 in Adelaide, and his father's name was noted as James Dawson. In the colony at this time there were 2 possible sets of parents. Either James Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher, or, James Dawson and Susannah Parrish. Could someone check his death registration, so that we can find his age, and also then check his birth registration. Many thanks for any help forthcoming. Kind regards, Rowena in Melbourne Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Folks I would like to check the parents of this little boy if possible. James Dawson died on 13 Apr 1848 in Adelaide, and his father's name was noted as James Dawson. In the colony at this time there were 2 possible sets of parents. Either James Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher, or, James Dawson and Susannah Parrish. Could someone check his death registration, so that we can find his age, and also then check his birth registration. Many thanks for any help forthcoming. Kind regards, Rowena in Melbourne

Can someone please lookup the deaths of   George SLADE b.1920 son of Frederick Thomas SLADE believed to have died as a child   SLADE Langley Gordon b.1916 SLADE Eileen wife of Langley Gordon   Thankyou   Helen

H would be Hospital - I have seen a few where combinations of letters have been listed Julie Stokes -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Cocks Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 8:00 AM To: Helen Carter; aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Symbols on Death cds Hi Helen and Listers, >From the 1916-1972 Deaths disc 'help' S = " Supplementary information beyond that entered in this index, and considered valuable to the researcher, is available on the registration. e.g. additional family names, mopre detail on the place of death or the fact that the father of the child for whom the certificate was written, pre-deceased the child." There is no HI. But there is I I = "An indefinite date of death. If a range was given, then the lower figure was used." The 1842-1916 disc is worded slightly differently but same meaning. I hope helps. Steph. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Carter" <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:08 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Symbols on Death cds Can someone enlighten me please H = died in hospital what is S and HI Helen Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/09/10 16:05:00 Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Helen and Listers, >From the 1916-1972 Deaths disc 'help' S = " Supplementary information beyond that entered in this index, and considered valuable to the researcher, is available on the registration. e.g. additional family names, mopre detail on the place of death or the fact that the father of the child for whom the certificate was written, pre-deceased the child." There is no HI. But there is I I = "An indefinite date of death. If a range was given, then the lower figure was used." The 1842-1916 disc is worded slightly differently but same meaning. I hope helps. Steph. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Carter" <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:08 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Symbols on Death cds Can someone enlighten me please H = died in hospital what is S and HI Helen Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3060 - Release Date: 08/09/10 16:05:00

Can someone enlighten me please   H = died in hospital   what is S and HI   Helen