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    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Fw: [TSL] *new* for TheShipsList website
    2. robert janmaat
    3. Greetings all An further update from theshiplist Regards Robert, Adelaide Important: This communication is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential, commercially valuable or subject to legal or parliamentary privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any review, re-transmission, disclosure, use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited by several Commonwealth Acts of Parliament. If you have received this communication and are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this transmission together with any attachments. Research data online with theshiplist at this address http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.htm http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAgermanindex.htm --- On Wed, 18/8/10, Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> Subject: [TSL] *new* for TheShipsList website To: TheShipsList@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 6:26 AM                              *new* for TheShipsList website                                 http://www.theshipslist.com/ All the new and updated files and databases have been placed on their own page(s) Find them on the front page in between the big arrows                                    -------------->   <--------------- At the bottom of each of these pages I have placed links named " previous month " and " next month " so you are able to navigate back and forth between the monthly *new & updated* pages, as I only keep three months of *new* page links on the Home page.  New for August 2010 is  . . .      o Passengers:         o John Molson - 16th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 21st August 1832         o John Molson - 17th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 27th August 1832         o John Molson - 18th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 1st September 1832         o John Molson - 19th trip up, Quebec to Montreal, 8th September 1832         o ...         o barque August, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 17th August 1856         o ship Adele, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 14th September 1856 .. Melbourne 11th October 1856         o barque Heinrich, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 18th September 1856         o brig Vesta, from Hamburg, to Port Adelaide 29th November 1856 Four more JOHN MOLSON steamboat passenger lists for 1832.  We still see Emigration Society tickets for some of the settlers on these three trips.  I forgot to mention last month that the 15th trip on August 7th 1832, included ... 30-35      Colonel By & family      £6/9/2 Colonel By and family first arrived in 1826, aboard the barque Endeavour.  He superintended the building of the canal to connect Kingston on Lake Ontario, up the Rideau to the join the settlement near the Chaudière falls of the Ottawa River. That settlement became known as "Bytown." In 1847 it was incorporated as a Town, and on December 18th 1854, was renamed Ottawa. Ottawa was selected as the Federal Capital of Canada by Queen Victoria in 1857.    .... I've been enjoying meeting some of these historic persons as I transcribe these lists. These are the last four German passenger lists to South Australia for 1856.  These are great lists, compiled from a vast variety of sources including original arrival lists, newspapers, Biographical index SA 1836-1885, the Brandenburg index, the Graeme Moad index and the Hamburg departure lists, from Ancestry.com.  I noticed a Seppelt family on the AUGUST.  Not sure if they are related to the famous Seppelt family who arrived on the EMMY in 1850. Please share this *new* for TheShipsList website email, with any other list to which you belong if you think it might be of interest or value to those list members (in other words, on-topic). Enjoy Sue -- TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- visit TheShipsList Website http://www.theshipslist.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to THESHIPSLIST-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/18/2010 08:37:45
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Lewis Ridd and Minnie Maud Ridd
    2. cathy carley
    3. HI:) Looking for a Death Possibly in SA of a LEWIS RIDD born circa 1870s and Wife MINNIE MAUD RIDD , Born circa 1870s please Thanks Regards Cathy:)

    08/17/2010 06:45:30
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Many thanks re BENNETT/ROSSON lookup
    2. Ailsa Corlett
    3. Many thanks to Rhonda and others that may be looking up the details re Hilda Bennett for me. Rhonda has supplied me with the death details to which I am grateful to this list for assistance that I have received. To everyone thank you, my answers always seem to get answered on this list by kind fellow researchers. Regards Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au

    08/16/2010 01:12:31
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] unsubscribe
    2. mark and jacqui wilson
    3. From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-sagen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2010 1:45 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272

    08/16/2010 11:28:47
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Naming conventions, patterns and a Dawson riddle
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. Quite right Ian. I quickly copied information provided to me from a Dawson/Parrish descendant. I should have double checked before I posted - sloppy of me - apologies. William Dawson and Susannah Parrish married 9 Apr 1820, Tottenham, London (IGI member submitted record). Children born in UK: 1. Susannah b. 1821 London (IGI extracted parish record) 2. William b.1824 Kent (IGI member no source given) 3. Henry b.1826 (IGI member no source given) 4. Jane Green b.1829 Kent (IGI extract) 5. Charles William b.1831 (IGI member no source given) 6. George b.1833 (IGI member no source given) 7. John b.1835 (IGI member no source given) 8. Frances b.1838 (IGI extract) There is only a Francis Edward registration on FreeBMD for 1839 in Stepney, London. 9. Charlotte b.1841 (IGI member no source given) FreeBMD records in 1841, Islington RD, and in 1842 Tonbridge, Kent. Having checked, the majority of births of these children are not recorded baptisms copied by the LDS for the IGI. They are member submitted records, most likely calculated back by ages given at death, so the accuracy is open to question. O could only cross-check with FreeBMD for the last two. Rowena -----Original Message----- From: ian simon [mailto:ians@iinet.net.au] Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 2:24 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com; 'Rowena Gough' Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Naming conventions, patterns and a Dawson riddle Hi Rowena How can William Dawson and Susannah Parrish be married in SA with children born before 1836? I can think of scenarios which will confuse the picture even more! Cheers Ian in Perth On Mon Aug 16 12:16 , "Rowena Gough" sent: >Dear Listers > > > >Long email - apologies. I have a riddle with a Dawson family and was trying >to use naming conventions to help sort out the mystery. I wanted to discuss >naming conventions on the list, and whether they were consistently used >throughout Britain. My primary family genealogy has been in Cornwall and >Wales, and I've found it largely correlating with what is below: > > > >Sons >1st son named after father's father >2nd son named after mother's father >3rd son named after father >4th son named after father's eldest brother >5th son named after mother's eldest brother > > > >Daughters >1st daughter named after mother's mother >2nd daughter named after father's mother >3rd daughter named after mother >4th daughter named after mother's eldest sister >5th daughter named after father's eldest sister > >If both grandfathers had the same name, then the second son could be named >after the father. (I'm not sure what the source document was for this) > > > >I have used naming conventions with my Cornish forebears to help sort out >some family mystery's, but, from the early 1800's new names such as Albert >and Caroline have appeared in my tree, and they seem to correlate with the >Royalty, ie Princess Caroline of Brunswick. My GG grandfather John Knell >Pascoe, appears to have been named after a famous Cornishman of the day John >Knell, after his father who had been married twice and fathered many >children, ran out of names in the 2nd family and he and his wife became a >little more creative. > > > >I also had an interesting instance where the children born to a Pascoe >family changed noticeably in a particular generation. The father Francis was >named after his father Francis, his only sibling had died, and the wife's >parents had identical names to her husband's, and so after the children were >named Francis, Frances, and Fanny (and a few other children named Frances >and Fanny had died) , the wife's siblings named were used in the order that >they were born. The wife's family had a different group of names, so it was >interesting to see the change that took place. > > > >It also looks as though in the mid to late 1800's the naming convention >broke down, and beyond naming after their parents and themselves, children >were named after favourite siblings, and increasingly the fashion of the >day, whether that was royalty or a revered public figure. I noticed at the >time of the Boer war that some some girls whose fathers served has middle >names of places like Pretoria, or a revered general. I would be interested >to hear you thoughts on this. > > > >And separately, the mystery. > >The Dawson issue that I am looking at, is the lack of a birth record for a >James Dawson born c.1843. He died in 1848 in Adelaide, father named William. >Now, at that time there were 2 William Dawson's in Adelaide producing >children. Which one? So, I thought I would look at dates and timeframes of >birth in the 2 families and possible naming conventions. The 2 families are: > > > >William Dawson (likely b.c.1811 Hampshire to James Dawson & Charlotte Burt) >and Mary Ann Whitcher (likely b.c.1809 Bucks to John Whitcher and Louisa >Chissel) married. 1838 Buckinghamshire. William Dawson's siblings were Ann, >Harriett, Caroline, and George. Wm Dawson, wife and child emigrated 1839 to >Adelaide on the ship Moffat. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher: > >1. Louisa b.1839 Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire (maternal >grandmother's name) > >2. Possible James birth if late 1842 / early 1843. > >3. Mary Ann Dawson b. 8 Nov 1844 Adelaide. (mother's name) > >Mary Ann died in 1849, and William married Jane Shugg (parents William Shugg >and Hannah Freeman) and Jane's siblings included a brother Edward and his >wife Matilda. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Jane Shugg: > >1. William James b.1851 (Wm both father's, and James paternal >grandfather's name) > >2. Charlotte Freeman b.1854 (paternal grandmother 1st name, maternal >grandmother surname) > >3. Caroline b.1856 (paternal aunt) > >4. Alfred Burt b.1857 (Alfred? Burt is paternal mother's surname) > >5. Matilda b.1863 (? Possibly favourite brother's wife) > >6. George Edward b.1866 (George father's only brother, Edw mother's >brother closest in age to her in large family) > > > >William Dawson and Susannah Parrish. Not a family I've researched so, I >don't know their antecedents. If someone has, that would be fabulous to have >a look at the naming patterns in this family. Married in Adelaide, don't' >know if their parents were noted on marriage record. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Susannah Parrish: > >1. Susannah b. 1821 > >2. William b.1824 > >3. Henry b.1826 > >4. Jane Green b.1829 > >5. Charles b.1831 > >6. George b.1833 > >7. John b. 1835 > >8. Frances b. 1838 > >9. Charlotte b. 1841 > >10. Possible James birth c.1843 > >11. Samuel Hugh b. 1845 > > > >You can see my dilemma with James born c.1843, and that theoretically he >would have fitted within both families. > > > >So, am I turning myself inside out here, to try and solve a puzzle? Any >ideas? I would be interested to hear you thoughts on this. > > > >Kind regards, > >Rowena > > > >Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >)

    08/16/2010 10:28:14
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Naming conventions, patterns and a Dawson riddle
    2. Rowena Gough
    3. Dear Listers Long email - apologies. I have a riddle with a Dawson family and was trying to use naming conventions to help sort out the mystery. I wanted to discuss naming conventions on the list, and whether they were consistently used throughout Britain. My primary family genealogy has been in Cornwall and Wales, and I've found it largely correlating with what is below: Sons 1st son named after father's father 2nd son named after mother's father 3rd son named after father 4th son named after father's eldest brother 5th son named after mother's eldest brother Daughters 1st daughter named after mother's mother 2nd daughter named after father's mother 3rd daughter named after mother 4th daughter named after mother's eldest sister 5th daughter named after father's eldest sister If both grandfathers had the same name, then the second son could be named after the father. (I'm not sure what the source document was for this) I have used naming conventions with my Cornish forebears to help sort out some family mystery's, but, from the early 1800's new names such as Albert and Caroline have appeared in my tree, and they seem to correlate with the Royalty, ie Princess Caroline of Brunswick. My GG grandfather John Knell Pascoe, appears to have been named after a famous Cornishman of the day John Knell, after his father who had been married twice and fathered many children, ran out of names in the 2nd family and he and his wife became a little more creative. I also had an interesting instance where the children born to a Pascoe family changed noticeably in a particular generation. The father Francis was named after his father Francis, his only sibling had died, and the wife's parents had identical names to her husband's, and so after the children were named Francis, Frances, and Fanny (and a few other children named Frances and Fanny had died) , the wife's siblings named were used in the order that they were born. The wife's family had a different group of names, so it was interesting to see the change that took place. It also looks as though in the mid to late 1800's the naming convention broke down, and beyond naming after their parents and themselves, children were named after favourite siblings, and increasingly the fashion of the day, whether that was royalty or a revered public figure. I noticed at the time of the Boer war that some some girls whose fathers served has middle names of places like Pretoria, or a revered general. I would be interested to hear you thoughts on this. And separately, the mystery. The Dawson issue that I am looking at, is the lack of a birth record for a James Dawson born c.1843. He died in 1848 in Adelaide, father named William. Now, at that time there were 2 William Dawson's in Adelaide producing children. Which one? So, I thought I would look at dates and timeframes of birth in the 2 families and possible naming conventions. The 2 families are: William Dawson (likely b.c.1811 Hampshire to James Dawson & Charlotte Burt) and Mary Ann Whitcher (likely b.c.1809 Bucks to John Whitcher and Louisa Chissel) married. 1838 Buckinghamshire. William Dawson's siblings were Ann, Harriett, Caroline, and George. Wm Dawson, wife and child emigrated 1839 to Adelaide on the ship Moffat. Children of Wm Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher: 1. Louisa b.1839 Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire (maternal grandmother's name) 2. Possible James birth if late 1842 / early 1843. 3. Mary Ann Dawson b. 8 Nov 1844 Adelaide. (mother's name) Mary Ann died in 1849, and William married Jane Shugg (parents William Shugg and Hannah Freeman) and Jane's siblings included a brother Edward and his wife Matilda. Children of Wm Dawson and Jane Shugg: 1. William James b.1851 (Wm both father's, and James paternal grandfather's name) 2. Charlotte Freeman b.1854 (paternal grandmother 1st name, maternal grandmother surname) 3. Caroline b.1856 (paternal aunt) 4. Alfred Burt b.1857 (Alfred? Burt is paternal mother's surname) 5. Matilda b.1863 (? Possibly favourite brother's wife) 6. George Edward b.1866 (George father's only brother, Edw mother's brother closest in age to her in large family) William Dawson and Susannah Parrish. Not a family I've researched so, I don't know their antecedents. If someone has, that would be fabulous to have a look at the naming patterns in this family. Married in Adelaide, don't' know if their parents were noted on marriage record. Children of Wm Dawson and Susannah Parrish: 1. Susannah b. 1821 2. William b.1824 3. Henry b.1826 4. Jane Green b.1829 5. Charles b.1831 6. George b.1833 7. John b. 1835 8. Frances b. 1838 9. Charlotte b. 1841 10. Possible James birth c.1843 11. Samuel Hugh b. 1845 You can see my dilemma with James born c.1843, and that theoretically he would have fitted within both families. So, am I turning myself inside out here, to try and solve a puzzle? Any ideas? I would be interested to hear you thoughts on this. Kind regards, Rowena

    08/16/2010 08:16:21
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Naming conventions, patterns and a Dawson riddle
    2. ian simon
    3. Hi Rowena How can William Dawson and Susannah Parrish be married in SA with children born before 1836? I can think of scenarios which will confuse the picture even more! Cheers Ian in Perth On Mon Aug 16 12:16 , "Rowena Gough" sent: >Dear Listers > > > >Long email - apologies. I have a riddle with a Dawson family and was trying >to use naming conventions to help sort out the mystery. I wanted to discuss >naming conventions on the list, and whether they were consistently used >throughout Britain. My primary family genealogy has been in Cornwall and >Wales, and I've found it largely correlating with what is below: > > > >Sons >1st son named after father's father >2nd son named after mother's father >3rd son named after father >4th son named after father's eldest brother >5th son named after mother's eldest brother > > > >Daughters >1st daughter named after mother's mother >2nd daughter named after father's mother >3rd daughter named after mother >4th daughter named after mother's eldest sister >5th daughter named after father's eldest sister > >If both grandfathers had the same name, then the second son could be named >after the father. (I'm not sure what the source document was for this) > > > >I have used naming conventions with my Cornish forebears to help sort out >some family mystery's, but, from the early 1800's new names such as Albert >and Caroline have appeared in my tree, and they seem to correlate with the >Royalty, ie Princess Caroline of Brunswick. My GG grandfather John Knell >Pascoe, appears to have been named after a famous Cornishman of the day John >Knell, after his father who had been married twice and fathered many >children, ran out of names in the 2nd family and he and his wife became a >little more creative. > > > >I also had an interesting instance where the children born to a Pascoe >family changed noticeably in a particular generation. The father Francis was >named after his father Francis, his only sibling had died, and the wife's >parents had identical names to her husband's, and so after the children were >named Francis, Frances, and Fanny (and a few other children named Frances >and Fanny had died) , the wife's siblings named were used in the order that >they were born. The wife's family had a different group of names, so it was >interesting to see the change that took place. > > > >It also looks as though in the mid to late 1800's the naming convention >broke down, and beyond naming after their parents and themselves, children >were named after favourite siblings, and increasingly the fashion of the >day, whether that was royalty or a revered public figure. I noticed at the >time of the Boer war that some some girls whose fathers served has middle >names of places like Pretoria, or a revered general. I would be interested >to hear you thoughts on this. > > > >And separately, the mystery. > >The Dawson issue that I am looking at, is the lack of a birth record for a >James Dawson born c.1843. He died in 1848 in Adelaide, father named William. >Now, at that time there were 2 William Dawson's in Adelaide producing >children. Which one? So, I thought I would look at dates and timeframes of >birth in the 2 families and possible naming conventions. The 2 families are: > > > >William Dawson (likely b.c.1811 Hampshire to James Dawson & Charlotte Burt) >and Mary Ann Whitcher (likely b.c.1809 Bucks to John Whitcher and Louisa >Chissel) married. 1838 Buckinghamshire. William Dawson's siblings were Ann, >Harriett, Caroline, and George. Wm Dawson, wife and child emigrated 1839 to >Adelaide on the ship Moffat. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Mary Ann Whitcher: > >1. Louisa b.1839 Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire (maternal >grandmother's name) > >2. Possible James birth if late 1842 / early 1843. > >3. Mary Ann Dawson b. 8 Nov 1844 Adelaide. (mother's name) > >Mary Ann died in 1849, and William married Jane Shugg (parents William Shugg >and Hannah Freeman) and Jane's siblings included a brother Edward and his >wife Matilda. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Jane Shugg: > >1. William James b.1851 (Wm both father's, and James paternal >grandfather's name) > >2. Charlotte Freeman b.1854 (paternal grandmother 1st name, maternal >grandmother surname) > >3. Caroline b.1856 (paternal aunt) > >4. Alfred Burt b.1857 (Alfred? Burt is paternal mother's surname) > >5. Matilda b.1863 (? Possibly favourite brother's wife) > >6. George Edward b.1866 (George father's only brother, Edw mother's >brother closest in age to her in large family) > > > >William Dawson and Susannah Parrish. Not a family I've researched so, I >don't know their antecedents. If someone has, that would be fabulous to have >a look at the naming patterns in this family. Married in Adelaide, don't' >know if their parents were noted on marriage record. > >Children of Wm Dawson and Susannah Parrish: > >1. Susannah b. 1821 > >2. William b.1824 > >3. Henry b.1826 > >4. Jane Green b.1829 > >5. Charles b.1831 > >6. George b.1833 > >7. John b. 1835 > >8. Frances b. 1838 > >9. Charlotte b. 1841 > >10. Possible James birth c.1843 > >11. Samuel Hugh b. 1845 > > > >You can see my dilemma with James born c.1843, and that theoretically he >would have fitted within both families. > > > >So, am I turning myself inside out here, to try and solve a puzzle? Any >ideas? I would be interested to hear you thoughts on this. > > > >Kind regards, > >Rowena > > > >Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >)

    08/16/2010 06:24:16
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Northern Territory
    2. Sheelagh Wiles
    3. Hi Listers Is there a LISTS for Northern Territory or is there an address I can try for information up North? Cheers Sheelagh

    08/16/2010 06:08:01
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] CARTER
    2. Helen Carter
    3. I now have these marriages requested   Thankyou   Helen

    08/15/2010 02:52:42
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272- Pt Pirie history
    2. June Smith
    3. Dear Liz, There are 2 definitive history books which should help you. "Reluctant Harbour" by Nancy Robinson and "Pt Pirie The Undaunted Years" by Ken Bullock. I'm pretty sure the latter is now out of print, but if your local library does not have them, ask for an inter-library loan and the library will get them in for you. If you need any Pt Pirie cemetery look-ups I can help you there too. I think the SYMONDS family were the Funeral Directors in Pirie for many years. Good hunting, Monty Smith. -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-sagen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 8:45 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3062 - Release Date: 08/10/10 06:35:00

    08/15/2010 01:52:39
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Northern Territory
    2. Genie
    3. http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.oceania.australia.nt/mb.ashx http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-NT.html Cheers Genie http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=295203197016 http://geniesgenealogyhelp.blogspot.com/ --- On Mon, 16/8/10, Sheelagh Wiles <swiles@ozemail.com.au> wrote: From: Sheelagh Wiles <swiles@ozemail.com.au> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Northern Territory To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 16 August, 2010, 12:38 Hi Listers Is there a LISTS for Northern Territory or is there an address I can try for information up North? Cheers Sheelagh Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/15/2010 01:44:56
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272- Pt Pirie history
    2. Liz C
    3. Monty thanks so much for your help.... will be in touch soon Regards.... Liz fireopal61@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June Smith Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 12:53 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-SAGEN] AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272- Pt Pirie history Dear Liz, There are 2 definitive history books which should help you. "Reluctant Harbour" by Nancy Robinson and "Pt Pirie The Undaunted Years" by Ken Bullock. I'm pretty sure the latter is now out of print, but if your local library does not have them, ask for an inter-library loan and the library will get them in for you. If you need any Pt Pirie cemetery look-ups I can help you there too. I think the SYMONDS family were the Funeral Directors in Pirie for many years. Good hunting, Monty Smith. -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-sagen-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 8:45 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-SAGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 272 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3062 - Release Date: 08/10/10 06:35:00 Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/15/2010 01:16:50
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Re Home For Incurables and Constable records
    2. Jan
    3. Cathy, State Records at Leigh Street had my ancestor's date and place of birth in the index to Police records...don't know what it's officially called. And he was only in the force for 6 months. It opened very many doors for me! Jan -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cathy carley Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2010 6:57 AM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Re Home For Incurables and Constable records   Re Constable records, my ggrandfather was a Constable in SA for a very short Period, JOHN HARE , born circa 1816 somewhere???lol cant find any records here in SA which actually says where he was born, or can find a marriage record for him There was apparently another John Hare too who was a Constable Can anyone think of where i can get any records here which might state actually where he was born   He was in Destitute asylum Died in 1904, but doesnt state exactly in england etc where he was born         Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/15/2010 10:50:54
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Re Home For Incurables and Constable records
    2. Stephanie Cocks
    3. Hi Cathy, There is a Police Historical Society, Google SAPOL, they may be able to help, though if he was only a constable for a short time, maybe not, but worth an email. Whether he is on their records, and if those records have his POB??? But all worth a try. Good Luck. Steph. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cathy carley" <cathy_carley@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:56 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Re Home For Incurables and Constable records Gday all:) re the posting re Home For Incurables, what early records do they have, and who has these records available please? one of my ancestors was in there, died in 1921 there Re Constable records, my ggrandfather was a Constable in SA for a very short Period, JOHN HARE , born circa 1816 somewhere???lol cant find any records here in SA which actually says where he was born, or can find a marriage record for him There was apparently another John Hare too who was a Constable Can anyone think of where i can get any records here which might state actually where he was born He was in Destitute asylum Died in 1904, but doesnt state exactly in england etc where he was born Also friend asking here have any more Marriage records been released by SAGHS yet, and while im with SAGHS lol will they ever bring out pension discounts as they are a tad expensive regards cathy:) Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3071 - Release Date: 08/14/10 18:18:00

    08/15/2010 05:56:43
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Electoral rolls
    2. 45plus commander
    3. I have been trying to research our house in Wallaroo and from the titles I was able to go back to 1912 but no further yet it states that the house was 'TRANSFERRED' to them. Not the first mortage or the first person who built the place, which leaves me with the last option of looking up the electoral rolls. But where do I find them? any ideas would be wonderful. cheers Colleen

    08/14/2010 05:59:57
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] CARTER
    2. Helen Carter
    3. Looking for the second marriage of   Beryl Florence (nee CARTER) BIGGINS father Albert Sharpe CARTER after 1922   and   Emma Edith (nee NORRIS) CARTER after 1917   Helen

    08/14/2010 05:42:05
    1. [AUS-SAGEN] Death or Marriage lookup please - BENNETT/ROSSON
    2. Ailsa Corlett
    3. Hi I would appreciate assistance in locating either another marriage or the death of: Hilda ROSSON born 1890 Adelaide to George Rosson and Janet Ann Carmichael (have details) She married 23 Dec 1913 in Wellington NZ to Alfred William John Bennett (have details) Alfred Bennett died in the First World War 12 Oct 1917 (have details ) I have Hilda listed as a widow on Electoral rolls and PO Directories in NZ up to 1926. I suspect that she returned to SA where her Mother and some other family members where still living at the time. Would appreciate a lookup to see if 1. She remarried and if so who to and what date etc 2. When she died, either under the name of Bennett or new married name. 3. On the off chance that she remarried, any chance that she may have had children ? (this would be a bonus) Many thanks for everyone's help Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au

    08/14/2010 03:59:50
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Queries and Answers.
    2. Sherrie Blackman
    3. Hi everyone, I'm totally lost with who said what :) though I do agree with this statement... "WELL, MY RESPONSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, THEY'D SELL MORE IF THE PRICE WAS MORE > REASONABLE. 50c RAFFLE TICKETS ALWAYS SELL QUICKER THAN THE $ ONES.' I'd be happy to pay $50 a CD instead of $200 or more. :p Kind regards, Sherrie. Sydney, NSW. -- http://www.silkweb.com.au/ On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:42:19 +1000, Mike Phoenix <mjphoenix@bigpond.com> wrote:

    08/14/2010 02:23:05
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Doing the right thing
    2. Peter Robinson
    3. Onya Di! Well said! I felt like adding my two bob's worth but you have encapsulated the essence very well indeed. Cheers the older of the tworobbos at Bairnsdale

    08/14/2010 11:51:40
    1. Re: [AUS-SAGEN] Migrant Records of the 1836 Ship Africaine
    2. Bob May
    3. Got message replied of list bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros Dunstall" <daisygirl.1212@gmail.com> To: "aus-sagen-l" <AUS-SAGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Migrant Records of the 1836 Ship Africaine > Hi List Members, > Here is a message from Di Cumming who is having trouble getting 'the > message > across' :-) > Great detective work Di, it is amazing w > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4487 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    08/14/2010 10:56:41