I have replied to Rowena off list but as I haven't got the latest Deaths C.D maybe sks could please check for Rowena. on that one as I couldn't find the couple on the earlier one. He may be listed as Francis Thomas as listed in the Bio as such. Judy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowena Gough" <rfgough@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Frederick Brasted Look-up > Dear List > > > > Hoping that someone will be able to help with this research query. I am > looking for Frederick Thomas BRASTED, who married Jessie Margaret SHUGG in > 1882. He was single, age 22, and his father was Charles Brasted. > > > > As usual, I would like to find his birth and death, and his parents. I > would > also like to find Jessie Margaret's death record. I have their children's > births. > > > > Many thanks for your kind help. > > Rowena > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can someone please lookup the births of children of James Simon BENTLEY & Violet Clarendon MICHELL after 1910 Also the deaths of James Simon BENTLEY and his wife Violet Clarendon BENTLEY Thankyou Helen

I am interested in Edgar John Burgess who died during the first world war in France in 1916. He came from Jamestown SA. I wondered if some members of the list perhaps know people (and could bring me in contact with them) who are related to him and his younger brother who also served in France in the same period. My interest in him is caused by the fact that I'm visiting his grave regularly. I guide people around the battlefields of the Somme in France where the boy is buried and came across a picture, taken in the winter of 1916-1917, of his grave. After investigating a bit I found the military whereabouts of him and his brother on the website of the Australian Infantery Force. It would be great if I could find some more information about them. My hope is of course that one of your geneology-records contain some information about him and his brother and about some of their still living relatives. The name of the boy who died in France: Edgar John Burgess, 21 when he enlisted in february 1916, 22 when he died in november 1916. So he had to be born in 1894. His younger brother: Lloyd Hayes Burgess, 20 when he enlisted on the same day as his brother (born in 1895). He returned to Australia in november 1919 and was discharged in 1920. In june 1931 he wrote a letter to the military authorities so was still alive at that time. It could be he died around december 1959 because at that moment the Central Army Records Office was asked for his records. Their father was: Thomas George Burgess, their mother was called Margaret. They all came from Jamestown, South Australia. I would be more than grateful if someone could help me a bit further with my investigation. Kindest regards, Fred van Groningen, Netherlands.

Hi all, Thanks to Heather, Barry and Mary Anne for the information they have uncovered. In answer to Heather's query I am not sure as yet whether the Charles Thoroughgood I am now researching was a member of the police force. From his marriage information he was Charles John Thoroughgood son of John Thoroughgood. In reference to the Trove newspaper reports regarding the stolen child. I have just been searching Trove for details. From what I can tell the child may have not been found. Is this so. It is such a tragedy. I hope to find more on this family. Best wishes Dawn North East Victoria

Hi Dawn There are no births for this couple on The CD of Birth 1907-1928. >From the SAGHS site both are mentioned in the cemetery index. Try <www.saghs.org.au> You can get information from them but it will cost. Mary Anne, Myrtleford, Vic. p.s. Sorry, SAGHS = South Australian Genealogy and Heraldry Society -----Original Message----- From: dawn rayner [mailto:rayner.dm@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2010 2:48 PM To: AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] New member query Duggan & Thoroughgood families Hi all, This is my first encounter with relatives in South Australia. I have just located a marriage in the Newspapers online for Charles John Thoroughgood and Margaret Alice Duggan . A kind researcher has been able to add to the marriage details and provide index results for their subsequent deaths. ie Marriage 19/1/1909 St Mary Church Semaphore SA reg no PtA 238/103 Charles Thoroughgood father John Thoroughgood, Margaret Alice Duggan father Francis Duggan Death Charles Thoroughgood died 11/2/1951 Adelaide SA reg no Ade 764/975 aged 71 yrs Death Margaret Duggan died 15/3/1957 Hawthorn SA reg no Ade 856/1624 aged 75 yrs (relative Charles John Thoroughgood) I am hoping that there were children to this marriage and that there may be some record of them also I would like to find out if possible where Charles and Margaret are buried. Hoping someone can help. Dawn North East Victoria

Hi Dawn If this Charles was a police officer, his brother was Martin (also a police officer) who married my relative Annie Armstrong. I have a little information on them, but not much yet. Have you seen the reports in the NLA newspapers about Charles' foster child Gwennie being kidnapped> Regards Heather -------------------------------------------------- From: "dawn rayner" <rayner.dm@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:47 PM To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] New member query Duggan & Thoroughgood families > Hi all, > > This is my first encounter with relatives in South Australia. > > I have just located a marriage in the Newspapers online for Charles John > Thoroughgood and Margaret Alice Duggan . > > A kind researcher has been able to add to the marriage details and provide > index results for their subsequent deaths. > > ie > > Marriage 19/1/1909 St Mary Church Semaphore SA reg no PtA 238/103 Charles > Thoroughgood father John Thoroughgood, Margaret Alice Duggan father > Francis > Duggan > > Death Charles Thoroughgood died 11/2/1951 Adelaide SA reg no Ade 764/975 > aged 71 yrs > > > Death Margaret Duggan died 15/3/1957 Hawthorn SA reg no Ade 856/1624 aged > 75 > yrs (relative Charles John Thoroughgood) > > > I am hoping that there were children to this marriage and that there may > be > some record of them also I would like to find out if possible where > Charles > and Margaret are buried. > > > Hoping someone can help. > > > Dawn > > > North East Victoria > >

Hi Dawn and listers, Charles and Margaret are buried at Mitcham General Cemetery. The headstone details are not available online. Cemetery: Mitcham General Latitude, longitude: -34.9842, 138.6205 Location: Corner Old Belair & Blythewood Roads, Mitcham SA. Notes: Established 1852, 1st burial 1853. Originally 0.8 ha, expanded several times. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -------------------------------------------------- From: "dawn rayner" <rayner.dm@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:17 PM To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] New member query Duggan & Thoroughgood families > I have just located a marriage in the Newspapers online for Charles John > Thoroughgood and Margaret Alice Duggan . > > A kind researcher has been able to add to the marriage details and provide > index results for their subsequent deaths. > > ie Marriage 19/1/1909 St Mary Church Semaphore SA reg no PtA 238/103 > Charles > Thoroughgood father John Thoroughgood, Margaret Alice Duggan father > Francis > Duggan > > Death Charles Thoroughgood died 11/2/1951 Adelaide SA reg no Ade 764/975 > aged 71 yrs > > Death Margaret Duggan died 15/3/1957 Hawthorn SA reg no Ade 856/1624 aged > 75 > yrs (relative Charles John Thoroughgood) > > I am hoping that there were children to this marriage and that there may > be > some record of them also I would like to find out if possible where > Charles > and Margaret are buried. > > Dawn > North East Victoria >

Dear List Hoping that someone will be able to help with this research query. I am looking for Frederick Thomas BRASTED, who married Jessie Margaret SHUGG in 1882. He was single, age 22, and his father was Charles Brasted. As usual, I would like to find his birth and death, and his parents. I would also like to find Jessie Margaret's death record. I have their children's births. Many thanks for your kind help. Rowena

Hi all, This is my first encounter with relatives in South Australia. I have just located a marriage in the Newspapers online for Charles John Thoroughgood and Margaret Alice Duggan . A kind researcher has been able to add to the marriage details and provide index results for their subsequent deaths. ie Marriage 19/1/1909 St Mary Church Semaphore SA reg no PtA 238/103 Charles Thoroughgood father John Thoroughgood, Margaret Alice Duggan father Francis Duggan Death Charles Thoroughgood died 11/2/1951 Adelaide SA reg no Ade 764/975 aged 71 yrs Death Margaret Duggan died 15/3/1957 Hawthorn SA reg no Ade 856/1624 aged 75 yrs (relative Charles John Thoroughgood) I am hoping that there were children to this marriage and that there may be some record of them also I would like to find out if possible where Charles and Margaret are buried. Hoping someone can help. Dawn North East Victoria

Dear List I have a conundrum, and would like to ask for help. The previous message under Webb-Shugg was not a marriage, but a birth registration, and it helped to solve a mystery and opened up more questions. Stephen Webb was born 19 Feb 1856, Adelaide, to parents John Webb and Eliza Shugg. I have a Stephen Shugg who married Elizabeth Gravil in 1880, giving his age as 22, father Richard Shugg. His death in Sydney, age 66, in 1922, also records his father as Richard Shugg. Both ages indicate a birth year of 1856, so that ties up nicely with Stephen Webb's birth year. No Webb-Shugg marriage in the UK or Australia. Stephen Shugg is a very unusual name across the Shugg's of the 1800's. There were only 2 in Australia. So, this looks to me like he was an illegitimate child, who was raised in a family where he was told that his father was a Richard Shugg, or was indeed raised in a household where the grandfather was a Richard Shugg, and he grew up believing that his grandparents were his parents. It would seem obvious that the Eliza Shugg, (parents James and Elizabeth Shugg from Helston) who later married James Dibell in 1871 was his mother. Yet, I'm not 100% convinced. Richard is also not a well used name amongst the Shugg's. In Eliza's family, the only Richard is an older brother who marries and moves interstate to Victoria by Feb 1855. In fact Richard does not occur in her Shugg family at all. There is another Shugg family group in Adelaide at the time (unrelated to Eliza's parents by 200 years), headed by Richard Freeman Shugg. They are a stable family unit and remain in Adelaide. Stephen grew up in South Australia and married and had his children there, before moving to Sydney. Richard Freeman Shugg's daughter Elizabeth wasn't born until 1851, but he has a niece Elizabeth Vining who travelled to Adelaide with them, and in 1858, marries his son. I'm wondering how possible it is that there was a fabricated changed of her name when registering the child. Most likely Stephen believes his father is a Richard Shugg, because that is what he has been told. So, I'm looking for any supporting evidence such as a Census to put the picture together. As you can see, I'm trying to think my way through this one. Apologies for the long story. Are there any other records like Census or election records, that could be checked, to find who Stephen is living with between the years 1856 and 1878, when he married? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Cheers Rowena

Loftus George MOORHOUSE was born 1909 the son of Charles Loftus MOORHOUSE & Emily Marie CAVE he married Gwenyth McTAGGART 1947 in Victoria she was born 1921 in SA, he is said to have remarried 1975 Looking for a death of him or his wife ? they divorced No deaths found in Vic or NSW Helen

Dear List I have a South Australian marriage for Eliza SHUGG and James WEBB, on 19 Feb 1856, in Adelaide. I have some confusion with this one, determining just who Eliza was. This couple don't appear to have had children or die in South Australia. Could someone check this marriage to see if any ages were given, and also check for deaths for Stephen and Eliza Webb? Thank you for your help, Regards, Rowena

Hi Lyn and listers, The fields which must be filled in are: Father's 1st given name and surname, Mother's 1st given name only, Select Birth/Christening event, Select region, for example British Isles If the names are common and you need to narrow down the number of results, fill in the year and year range. If you still have too many results you can fill in the country and county. If you don't know these you need to search for their marriage 1st. If they moved around the country you will probably miss some of their children. Do NOT enter the mother's maiden surname because if it is not recorded you will not get any results. Leave the *First Name, *Last Name, Spouse and spouse Last Name fields blank. Hope this helps. Cheers, Barry Leadbeater www.familyhistorysa.info -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lyn" <chedoona@beagle.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:47 PM To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] help with IGI/Family search org > G'day All > > Will someone please help me with which fields to fill in on the IGI to > find > the children of Isaac CORNEY and Ann HUTCHINSON. > I think I have tried every way but still I am not having any success, just > getting more confused. > > cheers > Lyn >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <chedoona@beagle.com.au> To: <AUS-SAGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] help with IGI/Family search org Hi Lyn > Will someone please help me with which fields to fill in on the IGI to > find > the children of Isaac CORNEY and Ann HUTCHINSON. > I think I have tried every way but still I am not having any success, just > getting more confused. Roughly what time period and country ? Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

G'day All Will someone please help me with which fields to fill in on the IGI to find the children of Isaac CORNEY and Ann HUTCHINSON. I think I have tried every way but still I am not having any success, just getting more confused. cheers Lyn

Many thanks to the kind listers who provided the research information for Frank Brock and his family, both forwards and backwards. This query has been answered. Kind regards to all, Rowena

Dear List Could someone help me with research on Frank Brock please? He married Monica Mary Shugg on 2 Jan 1898, Parkside, Adelaide. He was aged 27 years at the time, and his father was noted as Alfred Brock. I would like to find his birth, and parents details if possible. Plus the deaths of Monica and Frank Brock. I have 2 children born to them, Noel b.1900 and Keith b. 1904. Thank you for your help with this one. Kind regards, Rowena

Jeremy Shapland FRY Born 9th Sept 1920 at North Adelaide, Adelaide, SA Reg Nr 64A/10 to Henry Kenneth FRY and wife Dorothy Editha nee DEELEY regards Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Carter" <helen.carter28@yahoo.com> To: <aus-sagen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] FRY > Can someone please lookup the birth of > Jeremy Shapland FRY b.c1920 > Thankyou > Helen > > > > Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI Margaret, My husband's O'Neill's were from Rosroe near Sixmilebridge in County Clare. They came to South Australia in 1852. Unfortunately we cannot hardly find any trace of John O'Neill born 1814 or his wife Bridget Nee McNamara. We do know their son Patrick O'Neill settled in and around Sevenhills' in Clare SA and married Annie Doherty. We also find Annie O'Neill in the Destitute Asylum in Adelaide but the other children Thomas and John seem to have disapeared as well. I thought I would say hello to a fellow Sixmilebridge researcher Cheers Gay PS also saw your posting on the Brooklyn NY site -----Original Message----- From: aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-sagen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Spearin Sent: Monday, 27 September 2010 11:32 PM To: aus-sagen@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-SAGEN] Manning in Sth Australia > Hi list > I and am looking for information about James Manning b ab 1839 in Six Mile > Bridge County Clare Ireland. James died in South Australia in 1876 aged 37 > years. His wife was Margaret Byrne. He was late of Saddleworth and > foremally > Six Mile Bridge County Clare Ireland. I am not sure what list i should > post > to. > Any help appreciated. > > Thank you > > Margaret Advertising on AUS-SAGEN is forbidden by Rootsweb Rules. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-SAGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone please lookup the birth of Jeremy Shapland FRY b.c1920 Thankyou Helen